Building the two-bucket cyclone

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  • @dmiller777
    @dmiller777 7 років тому +3

    I made a cyclone separator based on this design and it works great. Vacuumed my entire shop and filled the bottom bucket twice. The vacuum canister is empty. I'm getting at least 99% efficiency. Thanks for taking the time to document your work.

  • @MentalPolution
    @MentalPolution 8 років тому +28

    the way you use your tools creatively is really impressive.

  • @jimmassey5763
    @jimmassey5763 10 років тому +21

    Brilliant!!!
    Have seen many videos on home built cyclone systems, and your has been the simplest by far and actually one I will attempt myself.
    Thanks for all you do Matthias!!!

    • @rustyridenour2136
      @rustyridenour2136 5 років тому +1

      I have one that even more Simpler then this and it works really good

  • @paulwastaken
    @paulwastaken 10 років тому +19

    wow! you are definitely the rock star of woodwork and engineering, your channel is very enjoyable and informational. thanks. Paul.

    • @atteljas
      @atteljas 7 років тому +1

      This man is so beyond rest of us!

  • @rm42749
    @rm42749 10 років тому

    Best functioning and least expensive dust collector I have seen and I've looked at a dozen or more on UA-cam. Thanks again.

  • @TonyBursey
    @TonyBursey 5 років тому +1

    Great tip using the threaded adapter. Picked one up to connect to my Rigid vacuum and is a perfect fit with the threads filed off. You have so many great builds on your channel. Subscription added!

  • @andriusliudzius2321
    @andriusliudzius2321 9 років тому +18

    i do like this guy everything he does makes sense and he has very interesting approach to doing things right way. dude i do salute you. I am professional carpenter your videos makes everyone better thank you 4 doing this. Andrius

  • @sitecsolutionsbelgium3907
    @sitecsolutionsbelgium3907 10 років тому

    I couldn't believe it was so simple to separate the dust and save the vacuum cleaner from being full.
    I made this with a simple 12 liter bucket with the same concept , and it works amazingly well. For my small shop it was a big improvement, i almost never have to change my dust bag and i don't lose suction.
    Super invention.

  • @basilg78
    @basilg78 9 років тому +20

    Are you kidding me with all this stuff you're making? If the dust collector wasn't impressive enough - I see you made a homemade scrollsaw and belt sander?! Very impressed with your ingenuity...

  • @marks3478
    @marks3478 7 років тому

    Why didn't I see this video 6 months ago before I purchased my grizzly dust collector!! Another great idea Matthias!! I'll definitely build one for my chop saw stand!!!

  • @CosmasBauer
    @CosmasBauer 10 років тому +20

    Love it! Much sturdier than my street cone one! These black pipes make it really professionally looking!

    • @grotekleum
      @grotekleum 10 років тому +4

      Your street cone one is cool; don't knock it.

    • @sjefdraai852
      @sjefdraai852 6 років тому

      Cosmas Bauer i

  • @kosovir
    @kosovir 10 років тому

    I really admire this guy's consistency. It's incredible how many ideas he produces. Thanks !

  • @murraylowe8677
    @murraylowe8677 10 років тому +1

    Your cyclone looks very similar to the one I built a few months back. But I never was able to figure out how efficient it was. Thank you for sharing both your build and your demonstration of proving it. By the way very nice job.

  • @Matt-cw7gu
    @Matt-cw7gu 8 років тому +1

    I just made one today using this design, wow am I surprised how well it works. Thanks for the video, it is very much appreciated.

  • @troyharlow24
    @troyharlow24 10 років тому +1

    Thank you so much, I'm about to set up my shop again and wanted to build my own cyclone, but didn't know which method to use. I really like your idea and look forward to trying it. Great work as always!

  • @timspqr
    @timspqr 9 років тому +7

    VERY interesting use of the table saw. Gave me some great techniques to use. Thank you!

    • @hebert415
      @hebert415 5 років тому

      Agreed. I learned some new tricks today. WOW!

  • @GaryKlineCA
    @GaryKlineCA 10 років тому

    Thank you for posting Jim Ryan's 'square cyclone' on your blog. I have an older 1 HP canister vacuum I'd like to use in the garage, but I'd really need a separator for it. I also own a cat, so the square buckets are easy to come by. :)

  • @NFSSAM
    @NFSSAM 10 років тому +2

    That is quite impressive, it's pretty cool seeing how you learned from your previous projects to come up with a design that efficient. Cant wait to see it do 99.9% XD

  • @bradbenjamin4566
    @bradbenjamin4566 7 років тому

    Very cool following your conceptual plans as you add the crafted components. This would be a great project if I had all the tools already. Thank you for posting.

  • @expediter99
    @expediter99 10 років тому

    Hi Matthias, a super econo accessory! I get a LOT more mileage between cleanings for my pleated filter- using my boy's grown out sweat pants- pull a length of leg over filter, tie off the cuff, 2 screws to housing. Easy brush off to clean "prefilter". Bill

  • @larry527az3
    @larry527az3 10 років тому

    Matthias, thanks for the great video, you've really opened my eyes to some fantastic ideas.

  • @joebrown1382
    @joebrown1382 7 років тому

    Matthias is amazing, very smart man. His homemade tools are amazing.

  • @mattarthur9078
    @mattarthur9078 10 років тому

    This doesn't have anything to do with the video, but i just wanted to say thank's for sharing your intelligence. I am capable of building more and better thing's from watching your videos.

  • @billprocter942
    @billprocter942 8 років тому +3

    Technically you vacuumed the same sawdust twice so I hope when you calculated your lose of fine dust you divided it in half. I'll be building this collector with a slight modification. Ryan Nodwell from Shop Built uses a Shop Vac attachment for his intake. I really like the idea of using a baffle. 99% efficiency is incredible. Thanks for all your videos.

    • @partyshorts
      @partyshorts 8 років тому

      I thought the same thing

  • @cpeterson877
    @cpeterson877 7 років тому

    Big fan of your work. This is a great video, as are all your broadcasts.

  • @ZombieWoodturner
    @ZombieWoodturner 8 років тому

    Mathias I was inspired by your video and I have started making my own collector. I am using a large 5 gallon plastic water bottle for the upper chamber and a 5 gallon bucket for the lower. still fine tuning but seems to be working really well.

  • @marcellemay7721
    @marcellemay7721 7 років тому

    This is a great simple design for a cyclone that anybody can build at home. I love it. I have one of those plastic cyclones that you can buy on Amazon...it works good, but I think I paid $50 for it. I don't think it works any better than this design though. I use mine to trap airborne dust from inside my blasting cabinet. Saves a ton of filter cleaning inside the vac.

  • @ypirnay
    @ypirnay 5 років тому +1

    Well conceived, well executed, well performing: you’re the man! 👍

  • @GumbootZone
    @GumbootZone 10 років тому +2

    A few months ago, I used a bucket and plumbing parts to make a separator. The trouble with it, is a single bucket gets too much air flow and it can't hold much before the dust starts swirling up and back into the vacuum. I wondered if a 2-bucket stack would help, but now I know. Your results are much superior than mine.

  • @leviwireman9162
    @leviwireman9162 9 років тому

    i have only seen 1 1/2 videos....and out of everything on the web you are the 1st i will follow! keep it up! you are great

  • @physicsguybrian
    @physicsguybrian 10 років тому

    Good times....good times. Always look forward to your videos, Sir!

  • @Berkana
    @Berkana 8 років тому +19

    I have a tip for the cyclone.
    Angle the inlet into the cyclone downward just enough so that the dust and air stream, when it makes its way all the way around, doesn't collide with the incoming stream. Angle it so that when it makes a circuit, it comes in under the inlet. The momentum of the dust won't be interrupted and will have a downward vector, and will be less turbulent without the collision, enabling the entrained dust to settle more efficiently.

    • @joshfalk8323
      @joshfalk8323 8 років тому

      Berkana r/iamverysmart

    • @orsakpavel7553
      @orsakpavel7553 7 років тому

      Berkana

    • @Pontus95
      @Pontus95 6 років тому +1

      Berkana well, juat looking at the cyclone when he sucks it back the second time, and you will see the dust inside the cyclone, not interfering with the incoming stream as it makes it first lap

  • @msmeganmole
    @msmeganmole 6 років тому

    My gosh are you exact in every thing you do. I love it. You must be an engineer by trade. Love all your tools. I bet you could design any product. Thanks for the video.

  • @sicklecell9999
    @sicklecell9999 5 років тому

    LOVE IT. I learned some new tricks here. Maybe a couple of friendly suggestions: To reduce the bends in your piping, maybe raise your Vac up on a shelf, so your 2" pipe leaves straight out towards the cyclone lid, then drops down (so it's an "L" shape run vs all those 90 deg bends. Not sure, but this might help. Also, I've cut a viewing window in my bucket, hot glued some clear plexiglass over it, so I can know when to clean it out.

  • @PJL1281
    @PJL1281 10 років тому

    Thanks for sharing this.. This has to be the most straight forward design I've seen so far.

  • @jcstevegigs
    @jcstevegigs 9 років тому +1

    Great job. Cool table saw jig too for trimming that circle.

  • @metals2546
    @metals2546 6 років тому +1

    I had to laugh whey you said "that's a satisfying fit". How many times I wish I could have said that with one of my projects. Well done. I damn love it.

  • @tomthumb3085
    @tomthumb3085 6 років тому

    Brilliant use of tools and excellent, well planned project.

  • @henrikheikkinen
    @henrikheikkinen 7 років тому

    I love that you name it as cyclone, because that reminds of a mesocyclone

  • @nopethegeek
    @nopethegeek 7 років тому +2

    Circle jig for table saw to cut a perfect, precise circle. BRILLIANT!

  • @RJBWoodTurner
    @RJBWoodTurner 10 років тому

    Excellent dust cyclone solution!
    Regards,
    Bob

  • @Woodentoolcompany2
    @Woodentoolcompany2 10 років тому +5

    Hahaha. Good one! Now if you were to use a 55gallon drum for the collection area you'd be on to something. It would take a long time to fill one of those.

  • @pmdinaz
    @pmdinaz 5 років тому

    Its amazing how easy these can be to build. Awesome result!

  • @davidjenner4426
    @davidjenner4426 10 років тому

    Like your cyclone, I, ve just completed mark one of my cyclone. I used a shop bought cyclone and adapted a wet vac to fit in a bucket, below that I have the cyclone also mounted in a bucket exhausting direct to the vacuume . The bottomof the cyclone dumps the shavings and dust into the third bucket. This makes it all quite tall, but I do not have much floor space, so it works for me. Biggest problemis the noise, sounds like a screaming jet engine! Mark two will be double skinned with expanding foam to act as sound absorber.

  • @PaulBostwick
    @PaulBostwick 10 років тому

    I dropped my store bought plastic cone shaped one and it burst. I've been meaning to repair it but now I see a better way. Thanks! I'm considerign adding a cyclone to the central house vac as well. Do you have a static suppression idea?
    Another feature of your approach of solid PVC pipe and stacked buckets is that it should be easier to secure to a rolling base to keep up with the shop vac.
    Extra thumbs up for not stretching the video out. This had content enough for 3 videos but you just pack in the good ideas one on top of the other and keep moving! You included the findings on the threaded coupling hack, the failure of melt welding and the narrow hose and even how to measure the efficiency all with minimal to do! Everybody else TAKE NOTE and do likewise.

  • @stuinNorway
    @stuinNorway 5 років тому

    I built mine with a variation on the baffle theme. Rather than have a baffle that screws to the sides, I made a circular baffle, attached the the bottom of the pipe out the top to the shop vac. Vertical pipe had 1/2 it's side removed for the bottom 10cm (in 4 segments around the pipe) plus holes drilled further up to prevent a single strong vacuum effect at the base of the pipe.
    The baffle is around 2-3cm in from the sides of the bucket (increased the gap when I discovered waste from the lathe was clogging it) and I check the vac every 4th time I empty the full 15 litre bucket, and there is usually no dust to speak of.

  • @chrisp6582
    @chrisp6582 8 років тому +7

    your cyclone is slightly more efficient as it had 2 passes. I work it out to be about 99.6% - so even more impressive!

  • @sandrusco71
    @sandrusco71 10 років тому

    thank you for all your interesting videos, this one really is amazing. just goes to show you that in this world of believing that you have to buy things to get the best, that there are still alternatives. I will be building this. thanks again for all your time.

  • @ScottAnders62
    @ScottAnders62 10 років тому

    Love your stuff, Matthias! You're a very clever dude, and I always enjoy your videos!

  • @kamaliasc
    @kamaliasc 8 років тому

    what it's great on your video.. not just the good ideas but the great set of pro tools.
    nice videos.

  • @theexistentialist.5530
    @theexistentialist.5530 10 років тому +1

    So happy your making vids again bro,please keep doing it.

  • @HerreroTaller
    @HerreroTaller Рік тому

    Hi Mathias, if you don't want to have any dust in the vacuum cleaner bucket, put a water trap between the vacuum cleaner and the collector bucket, the fine dust will be trapped mixed with the water. Thanks for sharing.

  • @JamesSmith-ze3lt
    @JamesSmith-ze3lt 10 років тому

    Matthias, you are quite an inspiration! Thank you!!!

  • @Pedro1291000
    @Pedro1291000 10 років тому +1

    I enjoy all you put on u tube so keep em coming Matt and well done.

  • @cariboocustomwoodworks6528
    @cariboocustomwoodworks6528 8 років тому +1

    another cool project. I'm definitely getting one of those circle cutting drill bits.

  • @arliebox4404
    @arliebox4404 5 років тому +2

    Gotta say, I like the circle jig. first one I've seen for a table saw

  • @tomlast1236
    @tomlast1236 10 років тому

    Great idea! Who could dislike this?

  • @shawnbradley3874
    @shawnbradley3874 9 років тому

    I like the idea of making the baffle from a bucket. Others are using thin Plexiglas and bending, marking, cutting to shape! This is a great time saving idea. The only thing ill do differently is mount to a 30 or 50 gallon drum. To much time spent emptying 5 gal buckets. Awesome job!

  • @leokimvideo
    @leokimvideo 7 років тому +7

    Congrats you just made a Dyson

  • @ArnoldsDesign
    @ArnoldsDesign 10 років тому

    Nice design, and good editing.

  • @petermenningen338
    @petermenningen338 10 років тому

    Mathias I like this idea I was thinking of incorporating a dust chip trap into each stationary tool in my new shop to save on the cleaning of the shop dust collector tubes and the main collector.
    I read in some of the comments that some persons are worried about static charge. If they run some bare copper wire across the top bucket on the inside (in the air flow) and pass it through the bucket to the outside with a bolt they can run a ground line to the tool or main power ground.
    Keep up the good work

  • @Beatlefan67
    @Beatlefan67 6 років тому

    6g? I wouldn't be too concerned about that! Great job as always Matthias.

  • @medhist2006
    @medhist2006 10 років тому

    very nice job Mathias. you have just given me another project :) I dont have a bandsaw but will figure out an alternative. Keep the videos coming:) THanks again.

  • @matthiasburger2315
    @matthiasburger2315 10 років тому +8

    99,2%... wonderful academic approach to ordinary dust.
    btw: his hair grew alarmingly by 121,5% since last weeks video;)

    • @kentharris7427
      @kentharris7427 4 роки тому

      I was looking for a video on how to over-engineer a dust collector. This was it! I did learn a few things from this video and will implement them into my new KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) design!

  • @xanokothe
    @xanokothe 10 років тому +1

    Hi Matt! If you make holes in the wood inside the bucket, the small particles wouldn't fall down, maybe?

  • @dannyh.7490
    @dannyh.7490 7 років тому

    Another one of your innovative designs ! Thank you for sharing ! I used the Dust Deputy but went one step further and made a bracket on top of my vacuum so I could mount the two buckets above, thus reducing my overall footprint. I also mounted my vacuum on a round platform with added wheels for greater mobility and stability ! I would post pictures but I don't see any way to do that here ! You must have made this before you took on the idea of buying something already made vrs. the time it takes to make your own, as it seems this took quite a long time !

  • @Mocking69
    @Mocking69 3 роки тому

    It's a wonderful cyclone ♪

  • @TheOneOriginalJackal
    @TheOneOriginalJackal 10 років тому

    great design for the DIY. I did something similar with a big orange street cone turned upside down. Gorilla glued on the intake port. Made the plywood plates etc. to seal the top. Place on top a metal trash can. But my Lowes shop vac would literally collapse the trash can and street cone if collection hose got blocked by hand or against a surface while vacuuming.

  • @IrishChippy
    @IrishChippy 7 років тому

    Nice build Matthias. I was afraid that the top bucket, being slightly conical might reduce efficiency. I went to the trouble of cutting the top bucket into a perfect cylinder (a lot of work). As your video shows, there was no need. However, I did add a plexiglass side window. Keep up the good work.

    • @matthiaswandel
      @matthiaswandel  7 років тому +1

      Ideally the bucket would be much more of a cone than it is.

    • @IrishChippy
      @IrishChippy 7 років тому

      Then it would not need the baffle, like the cone ones. Did you see the end of my one. The centrifugal force is massive. After using for a week there is nothing in the bottom of the vacuum. That is after one week and near one 100 litres of mixed particles.

  • @TheChrisPineWorkshop
    @TheChrisPineWorkshop 10 років тому

    Very cool! Amazingly efficient!

  • @leonardocarvajaldoreste2838
    @leonardocarvajaldoreste2838 8 років тому

    No tengo palabras para expresar lo que siento al ver tus vídeos. Dios te bendiga. EXCELENTE.

  • @antiussentiment
    @antiussentiment 7 років тому

    That is bloody marvellous..
    I now have a future project.

  • @intjonmiller
    @intjonmiller 10 років тому

    Mathias, I have a dust collection problem that I'll bet your engineering mind can solve better than I've been able to: drywall sanding dust. The Festool dust extraction units are great, but way out of my budget, and rather large for the repair work I do.
    Cyclones are better than straight shop vacs, but drywall dust is so fine that there isn't enough mass for centrifugal force to remove it effectively from the air flow. And it flows right through all but the finest and most expensive vacuum filters.
    I made a rather effective unit inspired by a Rainbow vacuum and powered by a Stinger portable wet/dry vacuum, but the water makes it a very messy solution to haul around and use in occupied homes. Surely there's a way to do a compact, portable, cost-effective, dry drywall dust extractor?
    Please consider taking on this challenge for a future video. Thanks!

  • @ColinTonkasdad
    @ColinTonkasdad 10 років тому

    superbly worked out as always , thanks

  • @ledal99
    @ledal99 10 років тому

    Hi I really enjoy your videos because I am new with woodworking

  • @loloaqici82qb4ipp
    @loloaqici82qb4ipp 10 років тому

    Very impressive result Mathias

  • @drew79s
    @drew79s 10 років тому +4

    You could weigh the air filter if you want to know how much you're picking up in the vacuum.

  • @jimviau327
    @jimviau327 6 років тому

    Over 99% is awesome performance! Thanks for sharing.

  • @MongrelShark
    @MongrelShark 10 років тому +9

    Great job. Watch out, Dyson might sue you.

  • @samwilson5544
    @samwilson5544 6 років тому

    1:55 Just a tip: Don't leave the chuck key in when you start the drill. It's going to fly out and blind someone. I learned that the hard way.

  • @theoblackadder8198
    @theoblackadder8198 8 років тому

    Excellent video would save me money for filters and bags for my shop vacuum. Also allow you to remove dust without breathing half of it in!

    • @matthiaswandel
      @matthiaswandel  8 років тому +1

      You still need to filter the air, just that the filter doesn't get dirty as fast.

  • @gregwarner3753
    @gregwarner3753 5 років тому

    For the sake of your feet and reduction in pain wear protective shoes in the shop. Even in a home shop. Dropping the head of that shop vac on your toes while wearing slippers would really hurt.
    The dust collector is on my to do list. Nice buildable design. Thanks

  • @dannyjung3884
    @dannyjung3884 6 років тому

    impressive woodworking video ever! thank you for your brilliant idea

  • @gypsycruiser
    @gypsycruiser 5 років тому

    You are so clever and skillful, thank you for sharing your concept

  • @1956vern
    @1956vern 8 років тому +1

    I think it worked great. That much fine dust would of cut vacuum in have. I guess you have convinced me to build one👍

  • @davsef
    @davsef 10 років тому +1

    отличный циклон получился!

  • @Mortern
    @Mortern 6 років тому

    Today I build one! it works surprisingly well!

  • @protonhead1
    @protonhead1 10 років тому

    nice job,You could use aluminium rivits to secure the top instead of melting,and screws . that way you won't have sharp screws sticking out. Great job,I like it.

  • @elpoder1971
    @elpoder1971 10 років тому

    Excellent project ! Thanks for sharing !

  • @mikewhelan7664
    @mikewhelan7664 9 років тому

    To avoid the problem with the lid between seperator and bucket you could make another wooden lid to get tighter seal. And coat the baffle disk with some form of glossy surface to reduce friction on dust particles. That should increase your already excellent efficiency.. Kudos.. After seeing your results i'm looking forward to building one of these for myself..

  • @jmagiera
    @jmagiera 10 років тому

    Impressed by the efficiency, definitely better than my hack.

  •  9 років тому +1

    Matthias Wandel, vocês é de mais, vai ser criativo assim lá em casa,rsrsrs PARABÉNS, quando vier para o Brasil não esqueça de nos visitar!

  • @DrToonhattan
    @DrToonhattan 8 років тому +8

    It would have been cool to put a camera inside the bucket so we could see all the dust going round.

    • @olachus
      @olachus 8 років тому +7

      What you would see would be clear for less than 2 sec. and all the dust, electrically charged by the friction, will adhere to the lens and all you would see now would be just a dusty cloud, no focus, no details... foggy unfocused image. It is useless to try it, in my opinion (not to mention how much dust the camera can collect inside that can ruin it, if you don't use a waterproof case for the camera). Unless you make a bucket out of clear polycarbonate or acrylic and attach a ground wire to discharge the electrostatic charges. Make a try. Let us know.

    • @nj8719
      @nj8719 8 років тому +11

      Buzzkillington Award Winner

  • @derekwildash2683
    @derekwildash2683 8 років тому +3

    This guy is amazing.

  • @sessiontelemetric5618
    @sessiontelemetric5618 5 років тому

    If I had to guess, I'd say your name is Steve. Because you remind me of my aunt Sues husband. A brilliant guy - a little different but a brilliant guy.

  • @spicyhot1695
    @spicyhot1695 5 років тому

    Brilliant! Haven't seen anything close it
    Keep up the great work!

  • @jakubcastka7058
    @jakubcastka7058 8 років тому +7

    1:07 "Thats a satisfiing fit" thats what she sayied, great video, keep up the good work
    :)

  • @CaptainDangeax
    @CaptainDangeax 10 років тому

    You really amazing at using your tools. I wish I could do the same but maybe I'm not patient enough.

  • @BobBlarneystone
    @BobBlarneystone 10 років тому

    For gluing/sealing parts to the plastic buckets, there is an epoxy that bonds to polyethylene and polypropylene. It is JB-Weld Plastic Bonder (not Plastic Welder). I've also successfully repaired a cracked HDPE lawnmower gas tank with it.

  • @derkwichhart1
    @derkwichhart1 10 років тому +1

    Thanks for the vid Mathius!