Canada's Cup Drought Reaches 30 Years
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2023
- It's that time of the year again, talking about no Canadian team winning the big one as summer approaches.
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Not just 30 years for Canadians, but 30 years for Canadiens too
An important distinction, to be sure.
Because their best forward was Patches and Brendan Gallagher when they were good lol
Thanks for the reminder 😢
Touche
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am I the only one that loves the fact Shannon has a framed picture of Bettman 😂
I audibly laughed at the Gary Bettman framed photo. Shannon you sly dawg you
I did to.
as a hockey fan in South Louisiana where the nearest teams are Dallas and Nashville, this channel is awesome to get a perspective on the whole league from a normal fan like me.
Keep this goin’, eh? Love the videos!
You may have a team much closer given the Coyotes situation
@@peterroberts4415
I’ve been keeping track! If relocation is announced I’m really hoping it’s Houston that gets the team.
South Louisiana? You have a team the Habs. Laissez les bon temps rouler.
He is one of the best for hockey content! But we gotta teach you how to use "eh" properly. Think of it the same as "right". Shannon is great, eh? ;)
@@drew651
I appreciate the “eh” lesson! Now I know!
90% of Shannon’s business expenses have to come from dry erase markers
Erase spray ain't cheap bro
Canucks would've had it if, as UrinatingTree put it, they didn't out-choke the Bruins.
What a great run, though.
Six Canadian teams have made the Final in 30 years. Of those, four lost in Game 7.
@@andysorensen1737 Since Vancouver made it twice, it would be 5 teams and 3 of them to game 7.
That 1994 team was better. Deeper. Especially on D.
Would the Canucks have won if Aaron Rome did not wake the baby bears in game 3? And was his 4 game suspension too much?
As a Kings fan, 2012 1st round. I gave the Kings ZERO CHANCE to get past the Canucks in the first round, but they won the Cup. Yes, Quick basically stole that Cup, but 2012 was SHOCKING!!
You must go through a lot of pens for your wipe board
Bro.. Markers and white board what are you saying
@@jackhartmann1084 They tried man they tried
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"Wipe board" lmao
To actually frame a photo of ol' Gary for this video shows real dedication.
It's not just for this video :D
He keeps it by his bedside, when he is sleeping...
He's had that picture since forever
@@v4v819 Gary calls THG every night at bedtime and sings sweet lullabies
Up until he replaced it last month with the picture the player mailed him, it's been in the back ground of every video for at least a year, if not longer.
I remember going to Toronto for the first time and I was shocked at the magnitude of media attention hockey gets. I knew media coverage would be much bigger than in the US, but it was still beyond my wildest imagination. I can't imagine the pressure players on Canadian teams must face every day.
The only comparable in the US is the Dallas Cowboys in TX. Coincidentally they’ve been mediocre for the same time period. The pressure is real with the new media landscape
Yeah it’s hard to feel loved and treated like a God. Now, when you don’t play well, cuz you’re not trying or working hard, the nice Canadians will ask: “Why you sandbagging eh?” If that hurts your feelings ask for a trade down south where you blend in anonymously.
Canadian teams cant survive the storms .
Since I’m shunning most North American sports for ice hockey, I feel like I am under so much pressure from fans of American football, which to me is like being forced to like something I hate with a burning passion.
@@rickyaz8640 playing on the Los Angeles lakers or New York Yankees would also come with a ton of pressure
It just seems amazing to me that a Canadian team has not won the Cup in 30 years. That just feels wrong.
It sure is, considering that canadian teams are about a quarter of all the teams in the league the odds are stacked against them from the start. But the most important factor is probably the incentives for teams to win.
In the USA there are the other big three leagues to compete with and in a competitive industry it´s hard to stay alive if you arent successful. Pittsburg and Chicago (until recently) has to be competitive and successful in order not to become obscure in big states/cities. Whereas in Toronto, hockey besides the Raptors is the only game in town for a Metropolitan area of around 5 million +.
Factor that with the fact that Canada more or less only has hockey as a professional sport as well as an often inhuman pressure on the players to perform come playoff wise, Auston Matthews in Toronto is a perfect example. The list goes on.
Feels great!!!!
It doesn't feel wrong, it IS wrong. Edmonton is the best bet still next year.
@@MattAlbieI hope Canada doesn’t win one for the next 30 too
@TheCluelessMan I've wrestled with these thoughts as well. It would seem, and I'm not a mathematician, that the statistical likelihood of a section of a set that represents 25% of the whole, would have been represented more often over an allegedly unbiased process of unpredictable outcome.
Here's a funny conspiracy narrative : the alpha state loses 2 years in a row to their less powerful neighbor state. Their neighbor state triumphs that same year at an activity they are typically the world's best at. Meetings are assembled to discuss this irritating series of results. After considerable debate, it is agreed upon that this neighbor state must be put in its place, and learn it correct position in the hierarchical matrix of state victory. Implementation of the project is achieved via suspension, schedule manipulation to weaken their targets achieved by insufficient match recovery intervals, and increased travel itineraries. Lastly, the most important variable is the practice of penalization to optimize the desired outcome in extreme measures such as 5 on 3s, and the correct timing of penalties. There's lots of data to isolate best likelihood of result in analytics. Anyone who's a veteran observer of matches, can recall numerous examples of penalization that was handed out for the most minimal of contact or interference. Further manipulation can be achieved by continuously modifying the threshold points of what constitutes a violation of opposition contact or opposition restriction of mobility. There's lots of ways to influence preference of outcome with greater quantities of conduct rules and floating variables of officiating bias and error due to visual field obstruction. Anyways, enough of this rabbit hole shit, it's time for bed. Later.
I blame the media. In the US they report on hockey with a more detached attitude, but in Canada everyone is an "expert" critic full of opinions about how the team should be run. It just comes with the passion, and media people are fans too but with a megaphone. The tone in Canada is eternal drama and controversy and I can see that being hard on the players psychologically. I remember in the 70s, Habs' genius Sam Pollock would isolate the players in the playoffs at ski resorts in the Laurentians. It seemed to work out well. But the playoffs are longer now and with internet social media it might not work these days.
so NHL players can't perform in Canada because the noise is too loud? And playing in the US where Canadian fans love to claim that "no one REALLY cares about hockey" makes it easier all of a sudden. Nah, in the highest-level of sports, pressure creates diamonds. NHL online discussion is not some unique level of toxicity in terms of sports media and fandom. improbable things happen in sports and sometimes a specific grouping of 7 teams doesn't win a championship for 30 years...
@@candidfob8423 I'm talking about sports broadcast media, not regular fans. Out of a fan base there will always be a few negative nellies that are easy to ignore, but the time consuming media availability and public criticism by reporters can make players less enthusiastic about a city. In many US cities the players can live a relatively anonymous life.
@@ebashford5334 There are a number of cities in the US that only have a single Big 4 sports franchise as well and those players aren't spared that same pressure. This isn't a unique problem to Canadian NHL markets, but none of those previously mentioned cities' players get that same excuse
To the Canadian team fan bases:
Ease up on your teams. Nearly every Canadian team has a mountain of pressure placed on them by the fans and subsequently the local press.
7 teams out of 32 total teams… law of averages says there should be a Canadian champ nearly every five years. There’s definitely something going on - look inward.
Your advice is sound and correct, but it just simply won't happen. Social media makes it so easy for anyone to say anything derogatory and lose control of their own emotions and add to the outcry without a single bit of accountability or penalty on their part. It'll just be louder and louder each year.
That's why I am always optimistic about my Ottawa Senators a lot because I know, one of these years, the Stanley Cup will come eventually
Why would they do that when they can just blame the league office lmao. Granted not all fans do thankfully. The fans that do are hilarious though.
I think the issue stems from several factors. Yes Fan pressure one but I don't think it accounts for it all. For me the reasons they are struggling is:
1. Salary Cap and the Canadian income taxes
2. GM/Front office rotation
3. Fan pressure
But the salary cap is probably one of the biggest. Purchasing power is so much more less than a team in a state that is income tax free. Canadian teams have less to spend on players on average just because their players could make way more in the US.
@@UnBoundBeatz You would think a competent Commissioner would correct issue #1.
The playoff formula doesn't help. Except Winnipeg, all the Canadian teams might have to play each other early in the playoffs
…oilers?
@Tenebyss if Calgary or Vancouver made the playoffs there's a good chance they'd play Edmonton in round 1 guaranteeing 1 of them is out
@@BvG_Venom it also guarantees one of them moves to the next round
I prefer the Canadian teams play each other because of that
Doesn’t matter, only 1 team wins anyway.
So what?? Are they the best team each season or not
It’s wild to me that, despite being largely mediocre in the last 30 years, the Canucks have been the ONLY team to have been to the Final twice since 1993, and both times they lost in 7.
P A I N
Habs went in 2021
@@lilfoobie1743 And since they won it, the only time, yes.
It's a shame that when I hear my teams name the first thing that comes to my mind is mediocrity. Been watching the Canucks for 35 years I'm over it. Wake me up when they have a good enough team that can contend to the Stanley Cup finals. The last finals run they were on in 2011 took a lit out of me. I knew they would never get back to the finals.
I was a Jays fan for a few years before they won so have vivid recollections of them winning it all, but wasn't watching hockey yet (not until 1994 playoffs at age 13) so now I'll be turning 43 early next year saying I saw a World Series, NBA Finals, MLS Cup, Calder Cup (Saint John, Hamilton, Toronto), heck even a Kelly Cup (Newfoundland, ECHL) before I saw a Stanley Cup won by one of ours.
Growlers are looking good again this playoffs. Let’s hope they get another!
You've won plenty of Grey Cups though!
@@niclazzari2309 thing is the vast majority of people dont care about a Grey cup over here
@@niclazzari2309 an american team won the grey cup before a canadian team won the stanley cup..
Each time Ottawa got close in the third or final round their run ended on a very painful moment… Jeff Friesen’s late game 7 goal for New Jersey, Chris Philips and Ray Emery’s own goal against the Ducks… the 2OT game 7 loss to Pittsburg…
Apparently it's a curse of game 7 for Ottawa Senators, but I still believe and a lot of faith for them
That own goal, amongst other things, screwed up what was a very good run. It killed all the buzz they had. They got through the first three rounds in five games per round. A dominant and convincing run, only to lay an egg by not adjusting to the Ducks. A silver lining for me, personally, was Teemu Selanne winning a cup. I was a fan of the original Jets, before I became a Sens fan.
I still have nightmares of Wade Redden letting that puck go right by him for Friesen to take it and score. That game ruined my childhood.
I know Emery's own goal became game winning goal in the end of that game five, but c'mon, Ducks won that game 6:2 and the series was not even close. This goal, no matter how unfortunate, was not that significant in the whole picture of that series.
@@Ryan_Wayne I know, I was there. Nobody in the Honda Center had any doubts the ducks were going to win that game even with Daniel Alfredsson put up a fight in the second period While there was a chorus of boos raining on him in response to what he did in game four. It was just that own goal was technically the game winner and the look on Chris Phillips face just said it all.
One of the main reasons for the drought is the same reason we lost Quebec and Winnipeg originally, its the economic situation here compared to the US. There is simply more revenue in advertising, sponsors, local and state support in the US than Canada. Not to mention and taxes and currency differences also playing a big part.
@@davehorsemanso after Bettman is gone and yall still haven't won a cup, who do you blame then?
@@csolivais1979 Or even worse, as soon as he's gone, one of the teams wins it and they get to tell you they told you so, eh?
@@VonOzbourne I hope that happens, just for the hysterical reactions of people. But what would be even funnier would be a Canadian team wins it, and as he hands the cup off he goes, "finally a Canadian team won, I can finally retire!"
That's not true. All NHL players are paid in US dollars, even the ones playing for Canadian teams. Rogers pays more for the rights to broadcast NHL games in Canada than ESPN does in the United States. Three of the top 10 most valuable NHL franchises are Canadian teams. Five of the seven Canadian teams are in the top half of most valuable NHL franchises.
@@csolivais1979 As funny as that would be, it's more likely that he would just slap that smarmy lawyer grin on his face and say "There. One of you guys won it. Now you can stop blaming me."
Which is also kind of a misdirect, because most smart Canadians know that the real reasons most of the top players prefer the U.S. are completely unrelated to hockey things like better pay to tax ratio, the ability to go out in public and most people won't even realize who you are, less pressure to perform from the fans and media and the often overlooked fact that warm climates are simply better for keeping your muscles loose which is kind of preferred by athletes.
Crazy it's been 30 years already.
Great video thanks for all the work you do
Great work , thank you for all the work you do
How Shannon comes up with these stats like he does for all the teams, about legendary players, and stats like these, is nothing short of amazing. Give him a great big hand and appreciate everything we are learning.
WOW! That's a lot of work. Shannon, you spoil me. Thank you
Excellent work as always.
I think San Jose, Minnesota and Nashville are decently run organizations they've had competitive teams in the playoffs for a good chunk of the past 30 years, collectively there has been just two finals appearances by those teams and no cups. Vancouver had a window of three years or so, Edmonton and Toronto have a window currently and Ottawa might begin moving into a window. I don't believe in curses a lot of very good teams just never end up winning a cup.
Mid 70s to 93 had Canadiens, Oilers, Flames, and Canadiens to end a spectacular 20 years. Hmm, no Leafs.
Don’t forget the Islanders between MTL-EDM, and the two back to back Pittsburg cups
@@dstcoyote22rants sorry I was referring to teams from Canada. It went from doing really well to the drought.
It was the dark days of Harold Ballard Leafs ownership
Vancouver where's that ?
No Canucks either. Or sens. Not a Leafs fan either.
The current playoff structure really makes it difficult for Canadian teams to win. In both the pacific and Atlantic divisions if all 6 Canadian teams place in the top 3 seeds of the divisions all but two must be eliminated by the conference finals.
In that sense the deck is kinda stacked against Canadian teams.
Just like it was stacked against American teams years ago. :)
Excellent point! On top of that, the Metropolitan division doesn't have any Canadian teams and the Central Division only has one (Winnipeg). Ideally, we would want three of the divisions to have two Canadian teams and one with one.
In terms of evening the odds a bit more (and it works geographically as well), an idea would be to have Montreal, Boston, Pittsburgh, and Columbus swap divisions. The only problem is it would affect the natural rivalries the Habs have with Ottawa and Toronto. The other issue would be whether or not it would be feasible to swap one of the two Alberta-based teams (Calgary would probably be the best bet) with Arizona - so that both the Central and Pacific would have two Canadian teams each.
If 3 Canadian teams make the playoffs in the Pacific and Atlantic. That's a 75% chance a Canadian team will be in each conference Final.
@@dustinrhodes4793 and a zero percent chance 100% of the teams will be Canadian which in the 1-8 seeding model the outcome is at least possible. Same reason why the current system screws Toronto, Tampa, and Boston. They wreck each other in the early rounds We are ignoring wildcard teams due to their low success rates in reaching the conference finals and SCF (current year not withstanding).
@@rosskgilmour I don't disagree with you and I really don't like the current playoff format. I'm just saying in the scenario you laid out. That's 2 Canadian teams in the Final Four. Not bad odds in that case
Thx, Shannon
What a fantastic breakdown .Ive been a Islanders fan since their inception ,cried when the Leafs beat us in OT of game seven in 78 , walked around in a daze for 12 hours after the Rangers knocked us out in 79 , grabbing another beer in every open deli i passed from midtown to the far end of queens ..every year after we dont make it or am eliminated i root for a Canadian team to win it all now .Their fans passion is unequaled in the sport year after year and now with you tube and channels like this i realize it is even stronger then i imagined .You would be amazed at how many fans i know root for them also ,It is and will always be a positive for the sport when Canada is competitive and wins also ,and it beats the hell out of philly ,boston, new jersey or the freaking rangers winning it ..but seriously ,i hope it comes within the next year or two .I cant see Edmonton not doing it ,but they need to show more heart 5 on 5 and in the tighter games in the final period .one thing i do know is that Canadian fans never give up or will in the future .I tip my cap to them all and to all the content makers also .I learn more each year now then i used to per decade ..thanks ..
Very nice detailed review ❤
I was there when the Ducks eliminated the ‘Nucks in 07… Luongo stood on his head and pushed game5 to double OT (even while on the toilet during it)… until he lost focus and tried to get a call on a hit by Rob Niedermayer, while his brother Scott threw it at the net. Crazy game with a crazy ending.
The 2011 Canucks just completely laid an egg in front of their home crowd in game 7… it was nearly comical to watch as the Bruins took advantage and dominated them.
And the 2012 Presidents Trophy winning Canucks and being predicted as the best team on paper? It was like the Kings didn’t know how to read… their cup run was unreal.
Like the blasty fit you got together
Well said
By my count per this board elimination counts:
7: Ana, Bos, Chi
6: Dal
5: Buf, Col, Phi, TBL
4: Car, NJD, NYR, Pit, Tor, VGK
3: Cgy, Mtl, SJS, Wsh
2: Det, StL, Van
1: CBJ, Edm, Fla, LAK, Min, NYI, Ott, Wpg
And five of Dallas’s were against Edmonton lol
1956-1969 only 1 US team won a SC in a league where Canadian teams were outnumbered2:1.
Randomization
Grate work
Cursed because of the McSorely penalty.
I love that “the hockey guy” has a framed picture of Bettman. LOL.
Nice video! Keep it up!
@The Hockey Guy The discussion came up today that Leafs players don't really take discounts. In the salary cap era - how many cup winners that had players give team friendly contracts?
For Edmonton they at least have Driasaitl and maybe McDavid. Although it doesn't matter because Nurse took em to the cleaners anyway.
Those leafs players chose money though. That's not a big deal if you pull that weight but they simply haven't.
@@AC-xq4hh They kinda did in the regular season. Toronto's performance was quite good; they tied for 4th in the league by points.
im pretty sure the leafs see the playfs as ''overtime'' as in work overtime...to me it feels like theyve done their 82 games job and just wanna go home for the summer
@@burningmime432 for sure, but when they get shut down in the playoffs, or get injured and still decide to play at 50%, the lack of depth is apparent
Its hard to win a cup when you are working with less money than other teams. Because of higher taxes in Canada vs the US, you need to pay more to free agents so they achieve about the same pay as if they were playing for Florida.
They don’t have less money. All revenues are accounted in USD and all players paid in USD. Why were two of the three biggest signings last summer by Calgary if what you say is true?
@MDK2 it's not that they have less money, but because of higher income tax, property tax, sales tax, etc, the same contract in Canada doesn't get you as much as a contract in Texas or Florida
Why is that an NHL issue? Covid policies one of the reasons Tkachuk wanted out. Winter weather another issue, should Canadian teams get a bonus to make up for slush?
@counselthyself there you go so it WONT EVER happen again no matter the rosters
@@joe.osullivan Not to mention that the Canadian dollar is consistently worth less than the US dollar. That and what you mentioned is the real reason Canada struggles to hold teams and succeed on the ice. It has little to do with the NHL. If you don't have an owner willing to finance a team, the league can want to succeed there all they like, it ain't happening.
I do find it interesting that when you go back and look at the great Canadian teams over these 30 years, these teams really have no issue getting great offensive talent but you need a stacked d core to win it all and thats the thing almost all the teams struggle to get
Montreal has had the opposite problem. They always struggle to score.
@@lankancheetah people would love tho hate on Price tend to ignore the fact that for most of his career in Montreal the avg. goal for was at or under 2.
As i said at my friend recently, the best offensive year we had were when our best offesive player was also our best D-man with PK.
Other than that you have to go back to Kovalev
@@Leo.Labine Also consistently trading best players South like PK Subban, MTL losses him in a bad trade and makes the Cup final Shortly with Predators even getting robbed in game 1 of that series when he opened the scoring in the final.
@@archimedes2261 Habs went to the finals with Weber in the rooster .... wth are blabing about
At this point with Ottawa I just want them to get a good owner that let's the team make decisions and that they make the playoffs.
Nice information
“However, they’ve also been bad” had me dying
Nicely explained
The pressure is a major factor, The Flames and Oilers came oh so close when the fanbases were just happy to be there when round 1 started.
Wow! This was interesting video, I had no idea Canada has a drought this bad!
Hey Montréal , break the curse!😊
Thanks Shannon!
I still have my original KOHO Blasty jersey from around '04-'05
I don't look at it very often....
no more hockey for me for the year could care less who wins at this point.... maybe next year will be better :/
Over the course of 6 years, the Oilers picked #1 overall four times. During that same spread, their average top pick was #2.33. Here is a rundown of some other teams over their best 6-year spans.
2.33 Edmonton Oilers (2010 to 2015)
3.17 Quebec Nordiques (1987 to 1992)
3.33 Ottawa Senators (1992 to 1997)
4.67 Buffalo Sabres (2014 to 2019)
5.17 Pittsburgh Penguins (2002 to 2007)
5.33 New Jersey Devils (2017 to 2022)
6.50 Chicago Blackhawks (2003 to 2008)
7.17 Florida Panthers (2010 to 2015)
Dude that's insane. They picked 1st overall 4 times out of 6 years. How could they not be a dynasty right now?
@@chrisstopher2277 that’s one of the reason why they changed the draft rules. Ridiculous that they were allowed to draft so high so often in such a short period of time.
@@rickyaz8640 The following six-year combinations also average 2.33.
1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 9
2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 4
3, 3, 3, 3, 1, 1
As a 27 year old it blows my mind that it's never happened in my life time.
This video was very thorough on the micro view of wins and losses in the playoffs from year-to-year, but I was expecting it would be focused on the macro, which you only gave a nod to in the end. My first thought is money, and the strength of the U.S. dollar vs. Canada, etc. I thought this was going to be a similar conversation as the Quebec Nordiques. You move them to Denver, put more money in the team, and voila, you have a Stanley Cup contender or at least a great team that first year! And the Avs have continued to do well! So yeah, based on what you said about the Nordiques, and Vegas and Seattle, I’m surprised that the huge influx of money into hockey wasn’t a larger part of this conversation!
2008 Habs lost to Philly in the 2nd round
I figured something seemed off because Philly wasn't in the SC in 08 haha
"There's always next year"
-Canada
Hahahahaha
The irony of a B’lose’ fan saying that is priceless.
Hoe many there’s always next year did you get? 50?
😂😂😂
@@jogendron6320 been saying that for four years now
I don’t know how someone can look at all the work you’ve done and their one takeaway is that you made one or two errors. Wow, just…wow.
Can you do one with cup winners I enjoyed this video it be cool to see with the champion teams. Thanks
Clutch!!! A framed photo of Bettman in your house.
Not lost on me is Shannon wearing a flames jersey in our BC heatwave
Having grown up with the Whalers, Patriots, and Red Sox of the 80s and 90s expecting to see defeat snatched from the jaws of victory is basically hardwired into me and no amount of championships will ever change that. I should probably just commit to the Canucks and be done with it.
Well explained
Wow the detailed stats!
I wish something like the WHA would return to North America!
I know you're the hockey guy,but a framed picture of Bettman? I thought you'd have his picture crazy glued to a dart board.
You are so pragmatic about hockey it is so refreshing
nice information..
No hockey for 2 days man they gotta fix their scheduling. First a 10pm elimination game featuring the top player in the league and now this.
Rejean Houle trading Patrick Roy. The presence of the Media in that city is really intense. As with Quebec players wary of playing there, more Criticism will be thrown at them. Montembeault and Harvey-Pinard are the only hope for now. I remember Shannon said that he made peace of players moving South of the border to play Hockey, same goes for me. No matter what Montreal does, I will keep on watching them even if they play poorly or if Players stated that they don't want to play there, heard that Petry talked negatively about his experience there. One question, I'm really curious is that what if Savard and Demers were not fired, would they win the league again at the time? Who knows. But it is what is.
you beat me to it by eight min 😁
Savard and Demers were fired for trying to trade Roy in the first place. It’s in the Demers book. Look it up.
Savard had a deal with Colorado, Roy for Fiset and Owen Nolan.
Habs president Corey vetoed the trade and fired the duo.
True story.
Wow, that's interesting info about Demers' wanting to trade Roy, I mistakenly thought he wanted to keep him in the net, the irony is the classic video,, after getting pulled in the disastrous Detroit game, of Roy's going over to Corey seated behind the bench and no glass and telling him "I'm outta here"
The closest team I think right now is Edmonton. But I think that window is going to close in another 3 to 5 years. Although inconsistent until now, their lineup offensively is stacked.
How come athletes in other sports can play in big markets teams and brush off the pressure, compared to hockey players?! Look at soccer/nfl/nba etc.
Absolutely!!!
Ive thought that a long time now.
For a tough sport and even tougher players, they sure do not seem to like playing in tough markets.
My hand cramped up just by looking at that board
My fav video every year !!!
How many teams have never had the opportunity to draft #1 and at least have the chance to select a possible franchise altering player?
We only have 1 team in both MLB and NBA yet both have won a championship since during this time
I always wonder how much time he takes to write out all that info on his whiteboards.
Last Canadian team that won was also the premier NHL team and the one that will forever be the flagship franchise with the most deservedly won cups, 24, wow, no other team is even close. Even teams in the original six. 1967 😎
Even if the drought continues, it would still take 200+ years to catch them :)
The Canadiens have won the most cups, but they're not the NHL's flagship team now, lol. The Rangers and the Leafs are arguably the NHL's present flagship teams.
I’m so sick of Canadians saying the league hates Canada, and that it’s Bettman’s fault they haven’t won a cup. There’s only 7 teams in Canada. The odds are slim every year, combine this with the fact that most of the teams in Canada are ran like absolute clown shows, it’s really no surprise. Let’s look at this individually.
Toronto Maple Leafs: no cups since 1967, ran like a circus up until 2016-17, pay 40 million to 4 guys who ROUTINELY fail to show up when it matters most.
Vancouver Canucks: an absolute embarrassment to the sport, have been mismanaged for my entire life. Had a good run when they had 3-5 hall of famers playing for them, but ultimately wasn’t enough to overcome incompetence. Jim Benning and Co. may I say more.
Montreal Canadiens: probably the most respectable teams In Canada in terms of pure management, but mostly carried for years by Price, they have always lacked the star power up front to win it all. You won’t win cups when Brendan Gallagher and Max are your best forwards. They cane close, but not enough.
Edmonton Oilers: see Canucks, only reason they aren’t the Canucks is because they got lucky with the ping pong balls 4 years out of 6 and even with landing the best player since Gretzky/Mario, they failed to surround that team with quality players. Ken Holland is a Dino who needs to retire.
Ottawa senators: lol. May I need to say more. Things look better in the future, but Mel ran an absolute clown and are the most irrelevant team in the county.
Flames: never really tore the whole thing down and built back up. Failed to capitalize on the good teams in the 2000s, they never seem to be a true contender after 04
Jets: this is probably more on the players and coaches than actual management. They’re a good team on paper despite lacking a true super star forward or #1 dman, they are a good overall team, unfortunately the locker room at least from the outside looks like a complete toxic wasteland, and there’s no true way of fixing this without a true rebuild. They dug themselves out of the grave known as the Atlanta Thrashers, now it’s time to form a true image.
You see this isn’t a Gary Bettman issue, it’s an incompetence issue amongst Canadian organizations that happens to happen to most of not all at once in my lifetime. Been watching hockey since about 2008, and I’ve never truly felt that a Canadian team was a true contender outside of the 2010-2012 Canucks and then the modern day Leafs.
Seven teams. Still, that’s almost 1/4 of the league. When half the teams go to the playoffs, it’s statistically possible that all 7 could make it in the same year.
@@MDK2_Radio then you factor in who’s good and not, ultimately it’s been most have been bad more than good
@@ryanmut239 certainly. That’s what Shannon is showing here.
@@MDK2_Radio you also have to look at it that
Teams by division
Atlantic: 3
Pacific: 3
Central: 1
Metro: 0
The odds you get more than 2 to the conference finals is basically next to 0, the numbers just fall apart quickly. That’s not even including the competency level of each team.
Soo nice
Okay but why do you have a framed photo of Gary Bettman 😂😂😂
Good chart to explain
The Jets got swept in 2015 by the Ducks, I remember watching those games. It was a very hard sweep for Anaheim to pull off. Penalties and inferior goaltending would prove to be Winnipeg's downfall.
They were still trying to shed their Trasher wings at the time. They did in 2018.
I wasn't even born last time Canada raised the Cup. Since then, Canadian teams have won the World Series, MLS Cup, and NBA Finals.
The best chance of course is Edmonton. Just gotta play a bit harder with their great players.
7:56 Habs fans like to remember "the curse of Roy departing" but fail to remember what precipitated it and that fans largely supported it at the time: the dismissal of Jacques Demers as coach and Serge Savard as GM. It was understandable on the surface: the team had started the season 0-5 and missed the playoffs the year prior. This ignored the small sample sizes (1994-95 was a strike-shortened season and 94% of the 1995-96 season was left. I maintain that not at least giving the Savard/Demers regime the benefit of the doubt to turn 1995-96 around was the true turning point for the worst for the franchise.
8:32 / 9:40 If the 2011 Canucks had the 1994 Canucks heart, or the 1994 Canucks had the 2011 talent, Vancouver would have its Stanley Cup banner right now. The 2011 Finals was the best chance to bring the Cup to a Canadian city since 1993 IMO: The Canucks were favoured, it'd been a complete homer series that point (it's highly rare for the home team to win every game but Game 7) and from the moment the puck was dropped that night, the Canucks soiled their drawers in front of an international audience.
Ottawa in 2007 was the best chance. They made it through the first three rounds in 5 games per series, only to then lay an egg in the Final and lose in 5. If they had have modified their play a bit and not had that notorious own goal, they likely would have beaten the Ducks.
Bruce, did you know why Savard and Demers were fired?
Because they actually traded Patrick Roy to Colorado!
Lemme explain, Savard had a deal with Lacroix: Roy for Fiset and Owen Nolan (Savard had drafted Theodore and thought he was Habs goalie of the future).
But Corey, Habs president, vetoed the trade and fired the duo. True story, look it up, it’s in the Demers book.
It was therefore destiny that Roy would leave.
The Casseau curse will live longer than the Bambino curse!
@@jogendron6320 I would have taken that trade over the trade they ultimately did.
The real question is… why does Shannon own a framed picture of Bettman lol
He's always watch
It's now moving on to 31 years of the drought for Canada & Lord Stanley!
Which team would with the cup if Bettman didn't meddle?
Atlanta.
We all know the stages of grief. This is easily observable in hockey fans, especially during the playoffs.
Interesting that the best shot the Oilers had at the cup, in 2006, they weren't a top 10 team.
Coincidentally that was Bettman's first year as commissioner.
Going 0 for 6 in the finals is quite remarkable. Even just six appearances at that. They had 15 conference finals to just get those six chances as well! This is well below the old days when the Canadiens were a force every season, then the Gretzky Oilers of the 1980s following after the Islanders' dynasty.
Flyers have gone 0-6 in their last 6 finals. It happens sometimes
Very perfect
Phenomenal.
I think the Jets and Leafs are going to be the most interesting teams to watch this Summer.
Saku Koivu's eye from Brind'amour high stick non-call.
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I can’t help but think there’s a correlation between the last Canadian Stanley Cup winner happening just before a major recession in Canada and a huge demographic shift in North America to the sunbelt.
I remember back in 93 Montreal had never gone over 8 years without a cup win. Fast forward to 2021 and even I was pulling for them. But truthfully there's 7 teams from 30 overall and none have been particularly dominant since the 80's Oilers. Eventually it will end but whoever does it will have a heck of a job. 🤔
Vancouver got 2 President Trophies. Best team to almost get it. Hawks and Bruins made sure it didn’t happen. But they were dominant for a few years.
Road Blocks for Canadian NHL Teams over this time period
MTL
Playoff Road Blocks: BOS & PHI
Other factors: “We’re les Canadiens, 24 Coupe de Stanley, our player history…” Rest of hockey world “yeah… and?”, the Packers of the NHL
TOR
Playoff Road Blocks: “Your team *STILL* can’t get past the *FIRST ROUND!*”, BOS (Leafs fans triggered by their goal horn)
Other factors: Dallas Cowboys of the NHL (last Cup final was 1967, Cowboys 1995), Harold Ballard
VAN
Playoff Road Blocks: launchpad for CO’s first 2 Cups, Game 7
Other factors: Ownership, how they treated Bruce Boudreau
CGY
Playoff Road Blocks: any team from CA, Game 7
Other factors: little brother complex in relation to EDM, 6th largest market in Canada
EDM
Playoff Road Blocks: DAL
Other factors: San Francisco 49ers of the NHL (great in the 1980s w/a generational talent, win a title sometime after their generational is traded to another team)
OTT:
Playoff Road Blocks: Game 7, TOR+BUF, and “You get eliminated by the whatdayaknow *THE F***IN PENGUINS!*”
Other factors: Eugene Melnyk
WPG
Playoff Road Blocks: Opening Round
Other factors: Smallest market w/NHL team in Canada (#8)
If there was no salary cap, I am guessing one team would have spent enough to get the Cup.
If spending money won you cups, the Rangers would of won a lot more cups than they did in the 90s.
the way it looks... in the next 30 years will be still drought!