Kenyan Swahili VS Tanzania Swahili what's the difference /Tanzanian's understand kenya swahili ?
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- Hey guys so todays video is going to be a reaction video we're going to be reacting and giving our own opinions on a Kenyan UA-camr's video talking about the differences in kiswahili between Kenya and Tanzania • DO KENYANS REALLY UNDE...
Leo tutaongelea tafauti za kiswahili cha kenya pamoja na kiswahili cha tanzania.
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I'm dying over here 😂😂😂, i didn't know that I needed this. But all i want to say is that there is no shame in knowing how to speak the so called "Ancient" Kiswahili/Swahili properly. Whether you are from Tanzania or Kenya. We have different accents due to various reasons...we all learnt that in school. Great video 👍🏼
😂😂😂 yes definitely and I feel like speaking the same language connects our countries
@@thatgirl_haju2509 indeed
There is no shame, it's evolution, language evolves no? English is not the same everywhere in the world, that's why the Rwandese, Congo, Comoros, Uganda, Kenya don't speak the same Swahili. So many factors affect language. Mainland Tz and Coast Tz Swahili is not the same.
And please what is Swahili, mnakosea mkisemasema Swahili. It is Kiswahili and not Swahili, Swahili is based on a white man's pronunciation kwa kuwa hangeweza sema kiswahili. But it's kiswahili and not Swahili ama kuna wazungu hapa? Wacheni mashauzi hapa. Eti Swahili what the hell is Swahili. We sound like those Nairobian film makers who put everything in English to please the white sponsors no wonder most kenyans don't watch Kenyan movies to be honest. We all are trying to suit the white man's lingo.
@@mbarakamajimbo we ndo unaufala Swahili is accepted check your kamusi
As Kenyans, we don't speak fluent Swahili. Our Swahili has been influenced by English and tribal languages. The slang is out of this world, and it's generational. You should hear what kids and teenagers are speaking right now. I am 30 years but sometimes I don't understand a thing.there is even a slang dictionary in Kenya. It's that crazy. But we are proud of Tanzanians for keeping the fluent Swahili intact.
Wow there is even a slang dictionary I didn't know that hope at some point they can also go back to speaking fluent Swahili
Sheng is not Kiswahili. It is like saying Pidgin is English. The similarity between proper TZ and Kenyan Kiswahili is 95%.
No there is no tribal languages it only english or swahili
Shukran
Thank you for speaking the truth
In short Tanzanians speak better swahili... Its something to be proud about. English is not our language (Tanzanians or kenyans)and we should communicate in our own language..
Definitely I'm very proud that I can speak Swahili especially out here far from home
Tanzania's kiswahili is grammatically poor,,sweet to the ear but disorderly
Visit Mombasa and listen to their swahili you will think you are in Tanzania
@@africanresource920 unaongelea Watanzania idadi ya watu milioni 60 au ni hao wachache uliowasikia.
Kuongezea pia, General Kenyan English accent is not top notch by the way. Does not sound good.
@@kijanahodari2080 As a Zanzibari, it is similar yet very very different...
I'm Kenyan. It's my first time here and I thought you guys were Kenyan. Your accent is 100% Kenyan.
Nyie si mnahisigi sisi wote hatujui English. Freshhyyy😂
@@austinkennedy9870 😂
Being an American, I know what she is talking about.
Kenyans on the coast speak Sanifu Swahili “Deep Swahili”. So do Tanzanians.
In Nairobi they speak Sheng (it is what it is).
And the further away from the coast you get the less the “Deep Swahili” is understood.
Being a student if Swahili, I have run into these barriers often.
Love the language by the way.
and the closer you shall get to Congo Kinshasha, the more confusing the Swahili shall be: In Congo, they have four different dialects of complicated Swahili
Tanzanian don't speak pure kiswahili, that's a lie
there is a lot to comment on this video. i think the way to view this is we (Kenyans) view Tanzanian swahili the way Americans view British English.
😂😂😂 yes that makes sense
Yet British English is original 😁
I have done development work where kiswahili has been extensively used.Changamoto refers to challenges while shida refers to problems
You're right 👍 and I'm Kenyan.
Nice video😍❤️ it’s a flex speaking your language guys 🇹🇿🇹🇿❤️❤️
Yess definitely Swahili is growing so much this days ❤🔥
Am Ugandan. I have worked in Dar es Salaam and Nairobi. Honestly, Tanzanians speak swihili faster and with more rare words. Most times, I have to ask them to slow and simplify for me. As a UGANDAN, I speak English most but understand Swihili. Tanzanians can not tell their are first while speaking Swihili, it is an out who can tell you.
I love East Africa as a whole. Tanzanians are Unique in their way.
Ugandans are more welcoming.
Kenyans are workaholic.
You are wrong...when I hear Tanzania accent they speak too slow unlike we as Kenyans we speak faster
You should move to Mombasa or Lamu and hear how fast swahili is actually spoken
In Kenya we are not workaholics...... The rest of you are just lazy
Kenyans could speak good Swahili if they wanted to, but they choose not to. There is a general attitude among young Kenyans that good Swahili is for old fashioned people. It also explains why you rarely see a youthful person buying a Swahili daily newspaper like Taifa Leo. Kenyans deliberately water down and cannibalize the language, which is very unfortunate. Personally, even though I'm a Sheng speaker, I prefer we spoke the standard language and do so whenever an opportunity arises
Agreed, true
Am Arabic speaker although I don’t speak Swahili but if someone speaks Swahili slowly I can understand many words due to similarities between the two languages but I noticed that the TZ one is more clear I suppose or maybe because it is ancient as Kenyan girl said 😂 or (fasaha) which is an Arabic word.
Great content though am subscribing to your channel I might improve my Swahili knowledge ❤
Swahili has alot of Arabic words and bantu
Nafikiria Inategemea Unatokea Upande Gani Kutoka Kenya Watu Kutokea Mombasa Tunaelewa Kiswahili Cha Tanzania 🇹🇿 Vizuri Sana Sisi Tuko Maeneo Ya Pwani kwahivyo hakuna changamoto zozote greeting from Switzerland 🇨🇭
Mwandiko wako unasomeka kwa accent ya bongo kabisa!! 😊
Usingesema nisingejua you are Kenyan!!
17:45 😂😂😂 i literally just used that tense "Nge" to reply in the previous comment just to hear her talk about this 😂
Tanzania kenya uganda in that order, no argument, hakuna haja ya debate
Mkwanja is one of TZ slang words for money, it is mostly used in squater and people of that Race. The other slang synonyms for money is Mshiko, fuba, mpunga/mchele e.t.c
Am from Kenya and grasp of the Swahili language is so good I guess
It about your educational background
Kenyan musicians like Otile Brown and Nadia Mukani sing in very good Kiswahili just the same as the coast of East Africa.
English and Swahili are compulsory subjects in Kenyan education system in both primary and high schools.
Thats a good thing you get to learn both
I understand TZ songs more than kenyan yet I'm Kenyan. I am not perfect in swahili but I understand everything a Tanzanian says, talking is where I draw a line. Kenyan songs are in sheng and sheng in Nairobi is quite different from sheng in another town. Different shengs different places, yaani ni lahaja na kila mtaa una lahaja zake.
Hehehe wow really😅........true tho kila mtu ana lahaja zake
Buda sasa lahaja ndio what?
@@Njeri_123 dialect
hicho kiswahili cha wapi?
Even sheng in Nairobi is different from estate to estate.
Hahaha this was so interesting to watch😂😂... Proud Tanzanian🇹🇿
Mkwanja we do use in Tanzania but it's a very informal language.
We also do say changamoto but depend on a sentence you say and it's often use on formal matters and on papers.
For me it's depend to which language I want to speak ,if it's swahili then I will think in Swahili,if it's English,I will think in English.
We as swahili people we don't see the difference between each other coz first we came from same tribe and we are related in many ways and I think most of people from coast of 🇰🇪🇹🇿 have same way of speaking swahili
Yes most speak the same
Precisely! The standard Kiswahili in Kenya and TZ is quite similar.
Surely there is no way “Swahili” people are from the same tribe, that’s like all south africans are the same because they speak English are all from the same tribe
They don't. Zanzibar's version is accepted in literature as the 'standard' may be because it is the easiest, and this 'accepting' probably had nothing to do with authentic speakers but foreigners who would prefer to learn an easy version. Even mainland Tanzania doesn't speak it. I find Mombasa's more sweet, natural especially the accent. As you head towards Lamu it gets tougher.
The speaking differs becoz of some vocabularies. Example kulala ni kiswahili fasaha lakini watu WA msa husema(anlala ), lamu(ulele) tanga(kalala/Shirazi ppl from tanga husema(kanaya/ya) Kuna utofauti kulingana na mahali mtu anapotoka baadhi ya maneno waweza kuyaelewa lakini baadhi huwezi kwa sababu ni kile kiswahili cha kiundani asokuwa mtu WA hapo hawezi kuelewa mf twaa means take kwa kiswahili fasaha lakini kivumba ni (rwaa) nenda ni fasaha lakini kimtangata ni (awa) waona tofauti yajaa hapo sasa
Real and authentic. Thank you for sharing.
As a Zanzibari who once engaged with both Tanzanians and Kenyans I'd assure you the standard swahili is only spoken in ZANZIBAR. The rest are just used to conveying their thoughts without regarding sentence structures, "TAHAJIA" and all the basic swahili grammar.
UR WRONG
@@kachemamsangi8089 prove it.
Most of people from zanzibar are narrow minded,so broh that is not your problem
Zanzibar is an Island in Tanzania guess you meant Tz
@@Sean1877 I meant Zanzibar👍
Mkwanja in Tanzania we use it as local word most wahuni(gangs) use it so it's not legit tho!
hehehehe much love from Kenya. Worked in Dar back in 2010. Anytime i opened my mouth to speak they would be like "lahaja yako ni ya kikenya". Eventually i used to tell them "Bora tuwasiliane"
😂😂😂 I think I would say that 2
I think they didnt mean it in a bad way, i personally get excited hearing someone with a kenyan/nairobian accent, because as much as our two countries are geographically close still most tanzanians dont interact with kenyans in a regular basis
I feel like when it comes down to languages, there's no such thing as better because everyone will use the Standard Language according to their regions. Of course for Swahili speakers we also have circles like those who speak it as a first language (Waswahili) are the inner circle or originals if you like then those of us who have it as a second language (majority) depending on your indigenous tribes ,am Luhya( Western Kenya) for instance, are the second circle then we have the expanding circle i.e. Congo and South Africa and I think recently Rwanda too. Different factors will always affect language so there's absolutely no way anyone will ever be fluent, like region, accent, language growth etc. So no there's no such thing as ancient language, it's their way of talk and how they understand each other and disregarding that is shear ignorance. Anyway, the difference between Kenyan and Tanzanian English is our wording and accent . Kenyans choose the shortest way possible to say a word even if it means mixing it up while Tanzanian is more straightforward but both have different pidgins created from them according to language play in their regions, there's no shame in wanting to speak a certain way.
okay...do you study languages?
In Mombasa Swahili people generally think that Tanzanians apart from tanga and dar area aren't good Swahili speakers...Mombasa. Swahili is hands down the best in the world
We Zanzibaris are just silent watching and listening you both fighting over the language none of you speak it properly 😂
Honestly Tanzanian songs are nice but some words are challenging and we need to go back to kamusi so that we can understand,but some are like slang because there are not in kamusi
Kenyans we don't speak Swahili ,we speak SHENG that no East Africans can understand expect us
Which is a Swahili slung
That's not right , Sheng is for Nairobi people only not the entire Kenya
Ladies you studied English right from Primary to Secondary that's why you are able to speak good English , and initially Kenyan here mistake you to be Kenyans
In the Kenyan education system, English and Kiswahili are compulsory from primary school to high school. But all other subjects like sciences are taught in English. Any Kenyan who went through the public education understands what proper Kiswahili is. The fluency varies though and what they choose to speak on the streets is up to them based on what they prefer whether it is English, Kiswahili, Sheng, mother tongue etc. Please, Sheng is not Kiswahili, so it should not even be used as a benchmark of proper Kiswahili and a way to judge Kenyans. Not all Kenyans speak Sheng and many do not even understand it contra to what is said out here. Also Sheng varies and changes based on location.
I dint even know what sheng was before making this video 😅😅
True, sheng ni msimu.
Sheng ni yetu🤣🤣
Kenyans are the best in Swahili because we pronounce the words well and for Tanzanian aren't the best , for example the word ( Raha) in Kenya we pronounce it well Raha .... And in Tanzania they pronounce laha so Kenya is the best in Swahili language
Personally, I hate sheng and can't think of knowing it
Of course we understand. She's not a typical Kenyan to be honest. She probably speaks English all the time. But we mostly understand
Tz Swahili is like from Jesus's days type of English.. Thy Thou Thee knowest... very Shakespeare like!! Kenyan swahili is simple...like easy Chinese.Much love from 🇰🇪
Jesus is far from English language he doesn't know any english word
@@kijanahodari2080 You're calling your Savior illiterate 😆 Utakwama kwenye gate wewe...
You are right, if you listen to gospel songs made in Tanzania it sounds very 'Shakespearen' in terms that gospel singers in Tanzania use the formal standard Kiswahili words you find in dictionary while secular songs by the artist, the likes of Diamond Platnumzs' they use other form of Swahili which I may say it is like doing swahili poetry were the secular artists play around with syllables to fit in their lyrics plus flow of their unique pronunciation and thus is why Kenyans at times are left out. I believe most Kenyans can follow and understand gospel music from Tanzanian singers or choirs with ease.
@@kijanahodari2080 .Christians pray in any language, otherwise all bibles would be in the hebrew language.You are very wrong to claim that Jesus doesn't know any English.
Nyie mnaingea kiswahili au mnaogeaga kikalinjin
Just love your comparison... and love tanzanian gals there just cool and respectful...bh see our gal here😂😂kiherehere miingi alfu kucheka miingi
Hehehe thank you
Yes. As a Tanzanian, I have heard "mkwanja" used waaaay to often specifically when I was younger(I'm now in my early 20s)
Duuh I haven't 🤣
You people are cute. Linguistics, love from 🇰🇪.
Kiswahili in Kenya is heavily influenced by ethnic inclinations, in Kenya it's the youth who deliberately struggle to use their slang and refuse to use proper language.
In Tanzania, they use standard Swahili but the wanyika...bantu population inland have have heavy ethnic pronunciation.
All along the coastal area in Kenya and Tanzania use Swahili as their common language.
You are discussing Swahili as commonly used by youth in urban and rural l areas....in both countries.
But remember, Kenyan youth deliberately avoid or refuse to use proper Swahili so as to be viewed as urbanites or refined.
Some words , like Hela actually refers to five cents, therefore Generally referring to money...
Most bantu communities in Kenya and Tanzania have that problem of pronouncing R or L....
Ningefurahia Sana kama mngejadiliana kwa lugha ya kiswahili...
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Asante sana kwa kutuelimisha na sisi sote tulijadiliana kwa kizungu kwasababu video tuliokua tuna tizama pia ni English
If uou say bantu communities strugle to pronounce swahil words it's true... In Uganda we totally failed to speak swahil bse of that. The none bantu areas can speak it, like in Northern Uganda but southern parts nara we can't try, infact it's very funny speaking swahil here, eventhough some schools teach it but students don't practice it in real life, it's also optional in schools you can drop it. We use Our local languages and English
Visit Mombasa and see a type of Swahili
You mean in Bara/Kenya
Hata wanyika huko Tanzania
I find it weird that the creators are speaking English in a Swahili 'curated' video. just speak Swahili and we'll see the differences in the speaking itself
Lol ok will do that next time
Not everyone that watches this vids are Swahili natives and by that your critics doesn't make sense! 🙄
Content is for the world and not just Swahili speakers, besides unataka waget aje Doo🤭😉
U got new sub here from Kenya nice content
Thank you so much 😊 more videos to come
People who speak Swahili as their first language are found along the East African coast, stretching from southern Somalia to the border between Tanzania and Mozambique and the offshore islands of Lamu, Zanzibar, Pemba, the Comoros, and the northwestern part of Madagascar.
I have a tanzanian boyfriend it's quite a challenge when we r trying to speak Swahili coz mine is so funny 🤣 buh he does understand me kinda...buh most of da time it's English but all in all I do understand Swahili 🤣😂🤣 ata kama ni kibaya ....much luv from qatar 🇶🇦🇰🇪🥰
Hehe thats nice
Yes we do understand the songs as Kenyans. Kenyans know Kiswahili sanifu but we prefer the simplest words to quickly pass the message!!! However this is the part Tz people don’t like, Kiswahili was born in Kenya.
We as swahili people we don't see the difference of each other coz we are related in many ways ,but maybe other tribes of Tanzanian/kenya they may see the difference,
Yes that's is true Swahili unites us
A person from Kenya bara will speak something like this:
"Kiswahili ya Kenya, enyewe, kuna venye iko tofauti na ile ya Bongo kusema tu ile ukweli yani... Na si ju ati Kenya tunapenda kuongea Kizungu mingi- zi! Ile vita tuko nayo na Swa' ni ile kitu wanaita Sheng."
Now, the above statement is in the typical spoken Swahili you'll encounter in mainland Kenya. Make your way to the Kenyan coast and it gets waaay better, almost a Zanzibari accent, with the vocabulary to boot.
You ladies are soooo Beautiful 💯% 👈...Funny Review of the subtle differences of two neighboring countries sharing the same language. Thanks for sharing, Now I want to learn Kenswali or Tanzenglish...lol Have a blessed day. Shalom✌🙏
Zanzibaris have always criticised the Kiswahili that is spoken in mainland Tanzania (Tanganyika) and in fact as you travel inland (Mikoani) in Tanzania the dialects keeps changing just like in Kenya , even though Tanzanian government policy has ensured that Kiswahili is the main language of instruction in all levels of education.
Another aspect of Tanzanian Kiswahili is the invention , and creation of new words / terminologies by the Kiswahili scholars mainly with the intention of translating or finding an equivalent English words in to Kiswahili. Hence you will in many cases hear Tanzanians use some words that are traditionally not familiar in Kiswahili.
Congrats girls. This was very exciting and pleasant to watch!
Its very true that R and L seems to have the same meaning....sometimes it gets very boring watching their movies.
But How do you compare TanZania 🇹🇿 Swahili with Swahili in Kenya 🇰🇪 while you know for fact that Swahili was born in Tanzania. How do you compare a Mother (TZ) with a child (KE) intern of Swahili language.
Zeisev Ismanov Swahili language was not brought from anywhere , it was all along a local Bantu language of the east African coast but just like many major languages all over the world , it has borrowed some words , from Arabic , Persian, Portuguese , Indian languages through early Indian ocean trading
Thanks for sharing❣️
Mkwanja is a "street" language meaning money in Tanzania. In Kenya alone Kiswahili from the coast and the rest of the country differs, same situation in Tz.
Its true.. we don't be getting the words in your music.. we just be vibing
😂😂😂😂 the vibe is what matters
Kenyan here 😅. So, I'm still stuck at their academic Swahili is bomb. That's it, it must be physically painful being in a Tanzanian school. Fun fact... Tanzanian authors think their Kenyan counterparts make up unnecessary vocabularies which is weird because normal readers of said works rarely understand most of the vocabularies. Most Kenyans would rather listen to the radio or watch the 7 pm news bulletin which are primarily done in Swahili. The question is on the fluency or rather the Tanzanian rigidity to fluency which the Kenyan speaker lacks. Say the r and l phenomenona, it exists in kenyan Swahili in Bantu speakers like the Kisii. In Kenya it's rare so it's easy to spot, but since it is relatively broad in Tanzania it kind of dissolves into a norm.
😂😂😂 it is very painful
It’s so difficult to generalise tanzania and Kenya cause some people in Kenya do speak Swahili like Tanzanians like in coastal areas but also i do notice tanzania on average do speak more fluently. Idk if in Kenya we have more influence from tribal languages into Swahili or English but the differences are so interesting. Also Kenyans struggle with r and l and it’s not because native languages don’t have r and l they do but they are often used interchangeably
Not all Kenyans have struggle with l and r,, mostly central Bantus
@@imani3975 yes i know im kenyan too, youre right its mainly bantu languages
Tanzania are the worst when it comes to R and L
Yap we need that kind of video wacha tuchambue mbichi na mbovuu know what I mean let's go princess 😅😅
😂😂😂 kabisa
Tanzania Swahili has a lot of Bantu words unlike the Mombasa, lamu Swahili which has a lot of Arabic words
Swahili is Swahili in both tanzania and kenya the only difference is the accents and slang
@@thatgirl_haju2509 Swahili is not just Swahili...it differs with richness of words too
I have never thought of this but its true
I prefer swahili versions with more bantu words, sounds better and more natural
Mkwanja ni slang
Unlike in Kenya , in Tanzania the English language was suppressed since the time of the founding father Mwalimu Julius K Nyerere and Kiswahili was given the first priority and declared the only national and official language that should be used in Government and all institutions of learning. That's why Tanzania have been trained to speak good Kiswahili.
Hey guys watching from 254 ,proper Swahili can also be referred as kiswahili sanifu that's the correct word
Yes it is
In kenya we do kiswahili as a subject from class 1 to 8...in form 1 we also have kiswahili to form 4 fasihi etc..the problem is the rest of the subjects are in english.but broken swahili,sheng and english carry most of our day to day conversations..We do understand tz songs huyo pekee ndio ako na shida.
I think the school system is the same coz that's how I studied as well
Class one kiswahili Gani ulikuwa unajua,see you ukiwa ushangu ,get seroius nilisoma kiswahili mpaka 4th form but still don't speak fluent the thing is fluent
@@margaretkisau2416 kusoma sio kujua
I'm Tanzanian and yes we used call currency as mkwanja especially when we bet on sports
adn thats informal. the formal word is hela while kenya the formal one they call it Pesa
I heard "my name is Hydra" and was ready to call Captain America, lol. I swear my brain scrambles what people say.
Mkwanja, Mtonjo, Kibunda, Ankara, Mapene, Mshiko, Jala
Mtonyo, Mbumba, Mavumba, Maokoto, Umatemate
Shida = Problem
Changamoto = Challenge
They're two different words.
Mkwanja is a common Kiswahili slang in Tz.
Oww yes you are right 😅
Ni mombasa kenya too
In proper Kiswahili Kenyans also say kuna shida. Iko shida is casual street lingo.
Another slang word is "mpunga".
Kiswahili is the native language of the Swahili people. The Swahili are descendants of the first intermarriages between Arab fathers(Hadhramis and Omanis) and African Bantu mothers, including tribes such as the Bajunis and Mijikendas. Sometimes, Swahili people refer to themselves as Arabs, which is also accurate since children take their father's surname. This cultural practice is why Swahili culture mirrors Arab culture, and they adopt clan names such as Al-Nabhan and Al-Hashimi. Over time, the Swahili have intermarried with inland African communities to such an extent that contemporary Swahili people are often indistinguishable from other Africans. Kiswahili has multifaceted origins, forming a linguistic tapestry woven from Arabic influence, Bantu roots, Portuguese encounter, and Indian connections.
Our forefathers, residing on the islands of Unguja, Pemba, Mombasa(Mvita), Lamu (Amu), Mafia, and along the Eastern African coast held a rich cultural legacy. Most were proficient in reciting the Quran, reading, and writing in Arabic.
Before the arrival of Roman alphabets, they even wrote Kiswahili using Arabic script.
As colonizers ventured inland to Uganda, they encountered rulers who communicated in writing using either Arabic or Kiswahili with Arabic alphabets.
The Arabic alphabet coincides perfectly in pronunciation with the eloquence of Kiswahili. When Kiswahili vocabulary is transcribed using Roman (Latin) alphabets, certain nuances can be lost. Kiswahili has distinct sounds that don’t always align perfectly with the Roman letters. As a result, some words may be mispronounced.
Kenyans too don’t often use ‘matata’, they rather say, poa (I am cool). And jambo is often ‘sasa or mambo.’ Additionally, Kenya Swahili depends on regions and an individual. The hakuna matata phrase became famous through a Kenyan coastal group Them Mushrooms song Jambo Bwana. The ‘r’ problem has to do with the influence of mother tongue. Some Kenyans too have such problem, also for English.
The r & l 'problem' is bigger in Tanzania than Kenya.
@@michael_saleh I agree
Nikakuja is not pure Swahili
Countries where Kiswahili is spoken include Tanzania , Kenya , Uganda , DR Congo, Rwanda , Burundi , Somalia , South Sudan, Zambia , Mozambique , Malawi , Comoros , Madagascar , Seychelles and Oman.
Pure swahili sanifu is spoken in zanzibar Town only in East Africa...other part in East africa speak swahili depending on the region they where they are from and their understanding and swahili was influenced by Arabic, Portuguese and some of the bantu languages
I just feel like she didn't pay much attention while in School because we learned Swahili from the first class to college. The difference is we prefer English more because it's literally everywhere and also kenyans speak alot of tribal languages.
all the subjects in school were in English apart from kiswahili subject.
Yeah true thus what we think ..thus what we learnt in high school..we sing to the songs but we dont understand
Yes we used the name Mkwanja long time as slang TZ
Im Kenyan,my thoughts are always in English,but when it comes to speaking,I go for Slang
I am surprised that our Kenyan lady is not aware that Kiswahili at the Kenya coast is more or less the same as that of coastal Tanzania. The phrases that she is attributing to Tanzanian Kiswahili are normal phrases used in Mombasa.
that Kenyan girl needs to check her facts again am Kenyan and I speak fluent kiswahili nobody should take pride in knowing colonial language.ill do a proper video
Swahili our brothers and sisters in Tanzania speak good original smooth Swahili,its just amazing... Our Kenyan Swahili is influenced by a lot of things especially different tribal languages, we have slang that I too don't understand, it's different for different age groups..
Oww that makes it very difficult to understand
I think the whole idea of slang is to ensure only a certain group understands locking outsiders, am conversant with slang in my area, but when someone from "mtaa" tofauti speaks, am as blank
Original? Nope. Even theirs is influenced by their vernacular languages. But unlike Kenya, Tanzania uses Swahili more and has more speakers, nearly 5 times Kenya's. But not the original. Even Zanzibar's is not the original but it is the written. The original is tough, very tough and belongs to the Bajuni but even amongst them, like every other language, there are dialects.
I just started studying Kiswahili, and the book says, "Jambo" is hello.
The proper word it hujambo
@@thatgirl_haju2509 Asante!
I'm a typical Nairobian - born and bred...but I don't say "iko shida", neither do I use the word "matata". 🤣🤣
😂😂😂 would you say your Swahili is good
@@thatgirl_haju2509 I would say it's not the best but way above average. I'd speak 'Kiswahili cha watu wa bara' and Sheng if speaking with peers in Nairobi...but whenever I visit coastal parts of Kenya like Mombasa, Malindi, etc and even Tanzania..., I try speak better Kiswahili and the locals say that I'm much better at it than the Kenyans (mostly Nairobians) they've interacted with. 😀
Kiswahili kina shida ....Iko na shida is not grammatically correct...😆
Both Kenya coast and Tanzania coast speak more or less the same Kiswahili. Also both countries as travel inland/; upcountry or Mikoani as Tanzanians call it , the Kiswahili dialect and pronunciations / accent keep changing among various tribes
Tz does it best but when it comes to English 🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪 has it all
am tanzanian and i agree with you,,Kenyan's speak English, we struggle way too much...LOL
Shida and changamoto don't mean the same changamoto refers to challenge ....and shida refers to a problem
From Kenya. I have enjoyed this video.
Thank you for watching I'm glad you enjoyed
Spoken Swahili Tanzanians take the lead. Our Swahili in Kenya has been affected by English language which is the language of instructions in our schools and tribal languages which is spoken in most homes.
English is the language of instruction in Tanzania too, in highschool, college and university too. I spent 17 years studying and working in Kenya for more than 14 years. Kenyan Swahili sacks. You are too much affected by your tribal dialects, that's why. Tanzanians barely use tribal dialects.
Another thing, Tanzanians will easily read a newpaper in Swahili while Kenyans struggle to read Swahili even if it's their first language. Almost no one reads a Swahili newspaper.
I also struggle reading Swahili but I can write it just fine 😂😂😂
Tanzanians, especially from Mainland Tanganyika tend to think that the Kiswahili that is being spoken in Nairobi and upcountry Kenya is the standard Kiswahili of Kenya. Just like Tanzania the best Kiswahili in Kenya is found along the coast. The Kiswahili that is spoken in Mombasa and the Kenyan coast is not very different from the Kiswahili that is spoken in Zanzibar and coastal Tanzania. In fact it is basically more or less the same. Also despite the colonialist British choosing to use Kiunguja as standard Kiswahili for their own reasons , Kiswahili did spread to many other several countries of East and central Africa , and as it spreaded may dialects were created hence right now Kiswahili has several dialects and pronunciations ( Lahaja na Lafudhi) and all are now accepted and recognised.
Wakenya wengi wanaongea Kiswahili kibovu. Ni kwamba hawakijui vizuri, bado wanajifunza. Ukitaka kujifunza lugha hiyo vizuri, nenda Tanzania
As a Kenyan, Tanzanian Swahili is really difficult. Ours is simple. When I listen to Tanzanian songs, I understand the message but some words used there seem not to exist. Anyway here in Kenya we use English right from Kindergarten
😂😂😂 yah I think for us it's easier because Swahili is what we speak 24/7
@@thatgirl_haju2509 Yes so true
@@thatgirl_haju2509 but for you I noticed that your English is so nice, you have probably not studied in Tanzania. You sound like you live abroad.
@@ItsFastNiQ no I studied in Tanzania all my life I am studying abroad now for my university thats it
@@ItsFastNiQ I did study in private school thou
Fusha in Arabic means clear/proper. So it could be similar in Swahili.
Mkwanja is a swahili slang for money. We use it , not that much nowadays but back in the days we were using it often.
Oww ok where are you from then
@@thatgirl_haju2509 I'm from Arusha. But I'm currently based in Dar
Or mawe 😂
I speak mix swahili.kenya,tanzanian and Kongo swahili.maku mbili=ishilini,jioni=mangaribi, bibi yangu=mwanamke wangu....pesa:faranga,kununuwa:kuwuzisha
HATA HUYU MAMA SIO MZURI SANA KWA KISWAHILI.PIA NAYE ANASTRUGLLE KUELEZEA TOFAUTI YA KISWAHILI CHA TZ NA KILE CHA KE.
Just watched this and my little two piece is that "sheng" Kenyan slang is not real real Swahili but rather a combination of several tribal languages in Kenya including Swahili ...like sometimes I can listen to a sheng sentence and in that sentence there's a combination of Swahili,kikuku and luo...so yeah that's my opinion
Second, I know Swahili is a general language in both Kenya and Tanzania but really to be honest it's really hard to understand TZ'd Swahili as a Kenyan,my dad's from Tanzania and I barely understand him sometimes especially when he gets in to the deep deep Swahili.. so all in all Kenyan Swahili is quite different from Tanzanian while speaking but when you go to school like dictionary wise it's these same🤦 so sielewi why there is such a big difference in pronunciation from both countries.
Mkwanja is used in TZ as slang but mostly by males.
Proper: Pesa, hela, fedha, sarafu.
Slangs: mkwanja, mtonyo, mpunga and so on…
Oww ok thats good information thank you so much 😊
New word for me SARAFU 🤣🤣🤣😂 iyo nayo Iko mpya kwangu it's a new word for me ....tanzanian have beautiful n difficult Swahili ever in east Africa (ijapokua nawapenda sana sana Sina changamoto na nyinyi )😂😂🤣🤣🥰🇰🇪🇶🇦❤️
@@magzakky2781 mimi n mkenya na najua sarafu tangu zamani
I’m Kenyan and a lot of times people wouldn’t believe I’m actually Kenyan when I would speak… It actually depends on where one grows up as well as where you went to school…
There are some words which some Artists use which are not Swahili but are streets language
Zege is concrete? Lord! There's a Swahili word for concrete?😁 Tanzanians do know a lot of Swahili. I got a grade A in my Secondary national examination in Swahili, but I don't get half of what's in Tanzanian Swahili songs. I always wondered what they were about
Kiswahili has been their language of instruction in school for a long time. So naturally they would need a word for everything.
@@michael_saleh Yeah, I guess it goes without saying. I do admire their mastery of the language sometimes.
😂zege.... I don't know why it sounds kama ugonjwa fulani
@@bantuvoicemuchaik.k.7715 IKR! Or intercourse or something🤣
@@michael_saleh do they learn maths and science in kiswahili?
Nviiri is the singer for pombe sigara
Some Tanzanians speak Kiswahili with their mother tounge accept that's why some confuse letters " r "and "l"
Swahili was born in Tanzania got sick in Kenya & buried in Uganda.
Heheheh omg yess
Eastern coast of east africa not tanzania to be specific. During those early years there was no country. Infact it was known as east africa before it was devided by europeans.
The original statement is "Kiswahili was born in Tanzania, died in Kenya, Buried in Uganda. "
@ceciliamuthungu424 .Kiswahili was born in Zanzibar, grew up and educated in Tanzania, got sick in Kenya, died in Eastern DRC, buried in Uganda.
@@willgremit Zanzibar is an island in Tanzania.
Tofauti ya kiswahili iko kwenye lahaja mathalani KIMVITA ni kiswahili cha mombasa wana misemo yao, matozi(machozi) nyonda(moyo) KIMTANGATA ni kiswahili cha Tanga- amba(sema), nda zangu(naenda zangu) kunani(kuna nini) kabwa jigumi(kapigwa ngumi) KIMATUMBATU Zanzibar kalimavi(kalima hivi) tungule(nyanya) marikiti(sokoni) na lahaja nyinginezo mswahili wa tanga na mombasa hawaja pishana sana kiasi mtu asiyejua atasema ni wamoja ila wemyewe waijua tofauti ila wa zanzibar hasa pemba mbali mbali viswahili vya mijini hasa Dar vina maneno ya misimu ya kupita na mengine ni ya makabila kutokana na mchanganyiko wa watu.
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