Moms For Liberty's Stunning Medical Scheme Costs Them BIG TIME
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- Опубліковано 10 тра 2024
- Right-wing leaders and organizations, including Moms For Liberty, have taken up new targets against fluoride in drinking water to stir culture war, which will only prove to be detrimental to everyone's health. John Iadarola and Sharon Reed break it down on The Damage Report.
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Medical freedom vs. public health: Should fluoride be in our drinking water? - www.nbcnews.com/health/health...
"The culture wars have a new target: your teeth.
Communities across the U.S. are ending public water fluoridation programs, often spurred by groups that insist that people should decide whether they want the mineral - long proven to fight cavities - added to their water supplies.
The push to flush it from water systems seems to be increasingly fueled by pandemic-related mistrust of government oversteps and misleading claims, experts say, that fluoride is harmful.
“The anti-fluoridation movement gained steam with Covid,” said Dr. Meg Lochary, a pediatric dentist in Union County, North Carolina. “We’ve seen an increase of people who either don’t want fluoride or are skeptical about it.”"
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Not treating dental problems can lead to heart problems.
Exactly. A lot of problems
You underestimate the willpower of the British.
Absolutely! If there’s any Buddy The Vampire Slayer/ Angel fans on here? The wonderful actor who played the Demon Bar Keeper in Angel died way way too early due to heart problems caused by lack of dental care in his early career as an actor.
Calgary stopped fluoridating water in the 00s. There has been significant increase in paediatric cavities since. It’s ridiculous.
Mom's for Liberty don't know fluoride occurs naturally in some water. Tell them God did that.
Wait till they find out Iodine is added to your salt for your health. What a bunch of wackos.
They probably use sea or kosher salt, one of the reasons why they might have higher cancer rates and poor childhood brain development. Iodine was pulled from many bread products and substituted with potassium bromate, so they went from using something with certain cancer retarding retarding properties and required for brain neurogenesis to one that promotes certain cancers.
Why is it the only time Conservatives/Regressives give a single fuck about consent is when its something proven to HELP you?!?
We had fluoridated water, and I've never had a cavity. Over 60, 4 years of braces, no cavities...no marks on my teeth. Yeah, it's a good thing.
Poor dental hygiene increases risk of heart infection… which is deadly.
It not only very effectively prevents tooth decay, it can treat early decay.
It is safe and effective and has been used for decades.
Dental infections are dangerous, and caries can lead to a lifetime of problems.
It is the last public health policy we should be debating.
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The children should sue their parents for lifelong teeth decay, treatment and cost. These children have no rights. Very selfish of these idiotic parents. Similar to blocking trans treatment and book ban. 💙
There are fluoridated mouth washes and toothpastes, But fluoridation began in 1945, it's nothing new. Generations of people have consented to water being treated in this manner for almost 80(?) years.
In the 50's there wasn't fluoride in the water. I had 13 cavities as a child. My kids in the 70's has fluoride & didn't have cavities!
My dad was a kid in the 50's. He tells me he had all his teeth pulled out at the age of 19 and has had dentures ever since... 😰
Same in Australia..I'm 51, grew up in the 70s with fluoridated water, and havnt ever had a cavity..
Same experience.
Fluoride is in toothpaste & most mouthwash. Go ahead and be dumb, dummy. Your dentist will (secretly) thank you...
Irony: Mom' For Liberty telling others what to put in their mouths! 🤣
Hey. Moms of Lunacy. Do you consent to oxygen in the air?
They don't seem to care about self-choice and consent when it comes to a woman's womb.
barefoot, pregnant, cooking, and silent.
If you ignore your teeth, they eventually go away.
I was an idiot and never took proper care of my teeth. The first molar broke at age 42, from chewing ice. Problems accumulate slowly, but by age 66 I had to have the remaining teeth pulled, replaced by dentures I hate to wear. Parents need to teach their children what will happen if teeth are neglected. Fluoride is essential to reduce tooth decay.
Considering the PAIN and heath effects of denying one's kids dental care- could this not be considered child abuse/ neglect? Our state finally, FINALLY went after some "prayer only" sect who had kids dying of treatable illnesses.
Don't tread on me and my falling-out decaying teeth.
Any Abscess or infection above your shoulders, is life threatening !
Sigh... this again? Doesn't this happen every 10 years when people who don't understand things think they need to change them?
My crazy right-wing cousin is anti-fluoride. I told him how my mother gave me fluoride drops as a baby and fluoride supplements as a kid. In my life, I've had 1 cavity. I thought that was good evidence for my point that fluoride is good. He came back with how he believes our grandma had perfect teeth to her dying day, and she never had fluoride in her water. Grandma had false teeth.
"You can't fix stupid."
I was born in 1950. Every child had cavities and had to have teeth filled on a regular basis until nearly everyone I knew had 70% to 100% of non-incisor teeth filled. Then fluoride was finally added to water (county/city decisions) in King and Snohomish Counties (Washington State) beginning in 1968. Result: Children in counties with fluoride no longer had more than one or two cavities during their childhoods. However, adding fluoride in King County was first proposed in 1951 but was not implemented until 1970. Why? Because right-wing conservatives claimed fluoridation was a "communist plot" to take over the U.S.
My family began individual fluoride drops each morning around 1961-62. My younger brothers and I never had another cavity after about three months of treatment. (Individual drops were ended when the water supply became fluoridated.)
Why would anyone with an ounce of empathy for children and a modicum of sense oppose adding fluoride to water? Such a program comes under public health for the community. Right-wing/MAGA conservatives continue to be bonkers.
I don't deny fluoridated water has its benefits I just wouldn't trust MTG, Matt Gaetz, Mike Johnson, or any MAGA Rep when it comes to my health or that of my family.
Absolutely. In the field of Public Health, the clear benefits of adding fluoride to public drinking water is the Gold Standard of a confirmed public good.
The mouth is an organ. It needs to be treated as such. I'm wondering when our own government will figure that out...🤔🤔🤔
As a Cardiac ICU RN of 30+ years I have seen deaths from endocarditis...from gum disease and pyorrhea. Millions of bacteria are released every time you brush. Decay is opportunistic to them. I have seen surgeons refuse to do surgery until teeth are addressed. Anesthesiologists have had to discuss oral issues with patients regarding their dental dangers when being anesthetized. It's a question asked in several places of pre op history questionnaires for those reasons. The mouth...is an organ.
YES...THIS!!!👄🤭🦷🤑🪥😶
Agree 1000%. I'm a retired geriatric nurse and so much of the illness, so many of the accident injuries I saw, would not have come to be people had good dental care along with regular vision checks and proper eyeglasses. Anyone who wears glasses or contacts, has had corrective eye surger: imagine you life without enough money to have any of that.
@@user-cu6yl2kt3v agree! With tooth loss comes jaw bone density loss...irreplaceable but necessary for implants to be successful. No bone base? Nothing to graft the permanent implant to.🤷♀️ Also, increased loss of control of food in the mouth...a choking danger develops insidiously especially as you age. Then...loss of some sense of taste...a trigger to feed yourself is dwindling and we wonder why edentulous elderly people can become emaciated so rapidly. It's because a trigger to eat...is now missing.
The city where I live, Calgary AB Canada succumbed to the no flouride nonsense a decade ago. The result was a massive increase in cavities in children & young adults esp in marginalized communities. It got so bad that flouride is now back in our water. The damage is done thoogh, we have a generation of children with shitty teeth
I was a kid with shitty teeth - until our township added flouride to the water and suddenly I stopped having cavities. My parents assumed that I was suddenly brushing longer.
People get crazier every day.
These people haven’t figured out that ignorance has consequences.
I was born and raised in Oregon, and Oregonians have worse teeth because of the lack of flouride in the water. Do we really want to inflict that on the rest of the country? I would think not.
Moved to Oregon in 1967. My teeth started going downhill. The only change was no flouride. My mother was raised on well water. Her teeth were a mess by the age of thirty. She lost them all at 37. She was fastidious in her personal care but it wasn't enough.
So, they’re afraid of fluoride, but not liquid silver or horse de-wormer? I simply can’t with these people…
Actually I worked at 2 health stores and colital Silver is great to put into water when your sick it really helps the cold go thru you faster.
@@bethpent8851 when you led off your reply with a pretentious AF “actually”…i expected more from your credentials. Now all I’m wondering is what happened at the 1st “health store” you worked at
@@bethpent8851 wtf is a “health store”?
@@bethpent8851 lol…”health store”🤣🤣🤣
@@bethpent8851 go with Christ, brah
Instead of going after fluoride, do something about the millions of Americans who cannot drink the water that comes out of the tap.
If you don't want to drink the water, then keep drinking bottle water like you are probably doing now. This will help the poorer people who can't afford anything that can help them.
I understand their frustration. I mean, when you're starting out with just three teeth to begin with...
IMO, fluoridated water being mandated is no different really than laws around having children in the car. Child seats, riding in the back until reaching a certain weight or height, these are all based on scientific data to protect children based on the design of cars, and how crashes effect the passengers in the car. Because children don’t have the education or reasoning skills to make these decisions for themselves. Once they are adults, they are free to make ignorant choices for themselves if that’s what they want to do, but children shouldn’t suffer for the ignorance of their parents.
I also wanted people to be aware that last year, I had the water pipes coming into my house replaced at no cost to me. It was part of the “get the lead out” program in Denver, funded by the infrastructure bill enacted by the Biden Administration. I live in an older neighborhood, and because of this program, my neighborhood and many others in Denver have safe drinking water.
I believe another factor contributing to the increase in tooth decay in children is the increase in drinking bottled water over tap water..
Juice 😉 Box Drinks
As carbonation's acidic, that kind will hasten decay.
I keep hearing about a "divided society." Society is being divided into two groups.
“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”
― George Carlin
Yup. Carlin was usually right.
I was born in 1950- People were yelling about "commie floride" when I was a child. It's back again 70 years later.
The 50's era seems to be about what the Republicans are shooting for. Well for everything except the 70%-80% corporate tax rate that existed and allowed for the economic freedoms of the middle class.
What about water supplies that have natural Fluoride in the water? This was how they discovered the benefits of Fluoride.
I am so sick of these alt right groups whining and cry about how their rights are being infringed on. Yet, they have no problem pushing their beliefs on others.
Want to see something really heartbreaking? Look up Obstetric nurses talking about the awful still born and newborn deaths caused by the anti-hospital propaganda of the moronic “Sovereign Citizen” people. Modern folks who haven’t seen the full spectrum of mother & infant deaths that can occur without proper prenatal and delivery care have come to think that humans can delivery babies as easy as dogs and deer. They can’t. Before modern hospital births and antibiotics, the rate of women dying from pregnancy in 1935 was 6.8 in 1000 births- which sounds sort of low…until you realize there wasn’t any legally available birth control for married women, and that statistic applied for EVERY. PREGNANCY. And a woman might have 5 or more pregnancies in her lifetime. Then infant mortality was 60 per 1000 births. That means 6% of babies didn’t survive their first year- and the majority of those deaths were at or shortly after birth. Never mind the horrible lifelong pain or incontinence that can happen to a woman without medical care after giving birth.
Oh my goodness, the financial cost, in the USA, for the dentistry that will now be required...oh, what dummies!
Christ, they put fluoride in the toothpaste
Toothpaste? Just another democratic hoax. These repubs are out of their fucking minds
It's about choice, but the same people can't allow a Woman to have choice over her own body. They are the worst people ever.
Moms For Liberty is actually MOMS FOR LUNACY
Yes, they're focused on the wrong things. Focused on fluoride rather than pollution. Ridiculous. They're just consp. theorists.
Fluoride toothpaste came out in the 70's in the UK, I'd had 6 fillings up till then, after using the toothpaste, the only dental work I've had is redoing the existing fillings, and one tooth extracted which couldn't be saved.
"Fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face." General Jack D. Ripper, from "Doctor Strangelove: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb."
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Reich-wing logic in North Carolina:
Floride in our water - BAD!
Duke Energy dumping coal ash into water - OKAY!
I grew up in San Jose, they are educated and have fluoridated water. I moved to the central valley of California where the is no floride in the water. Everyone in the central valley has bad teeth. Little children 3 or 4 will have mouths full of silver and their parents have no teeth or dentures! Please vote for your own good!
Did they check their facts with Kristi Noem's dentist, that she does commercials for?
Oh FFS! This is an OLD OLD conspiracy....
My sister moved to a farmhouse to avoid fluoride in the water and switched to a fluoride free toothpaste. At their next dentist appointment, her kids has over 20 cavities and she was horrified. Who knew… lol
Going to die young with no teeth! To put your children through that and caused their teeth to be rotted and go through excruciating pain from rotting teeth, and then having other health problems from it. I feel bad for the children of theses people.
There is a range of Fluoride that is optimum for dental health. Some drinking water sources have enough. There are a few locations where there is excess Fluoride (and some places other minerals) and removal is some places done. Most areas, in the USA have inadequate Fluoride, and adding some fixes this. Fluoridation (& removal) adjusts the amount of a mineral, which is naturally there to the optimum amount. It is not medication it is treatment of sub standard drinking water. I'm a retired Engineer who has professional knowledge of this.
The amount of plastic in these peoples brainstorming must be insane.
When my oldest child was a newborn/infant we lived in a house with old pipes and rusty looking water. I worried about lead and so used bottled water for him to protect him from potential lead poisoning. His teeth were terrible and he needed major dental care at age 2. I didn't even think about flouride! (Doh!) We got flouride treatments and bottled water with flouride came out and his teeth greatly improved. So, yeah, flouride works.
People Got Stupid, when Trump And Ron Desantis, Showed Up!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No, they just made them bold enough to scream their stupidity out in the open.
@@DanteCorwyn sounds about, right!!!!!!!! Wise, man!!!!!!!!
Stupider.
Stupider.
Given the opportunity, these people would love to have the inquisition again.
So, I wonder what they'll say to the shots of novacaine (spelling?) when the dentist offers it before drilling out the cavities?.
You're assuming they have teeth.
63 years old, never a cavity, raised for first 9 years in city with fluoride.
Wait until they discover what they’re adding to table salt😂
Was about to post the same thing!! lol
The horrors of forced iodine treatments!
Just need to convince them that air is bad for them and the problem will sort itself out.
Oxygen, what a concept.
I thought the Floride Debate was over since the 1950’s or 60’s?
Teeth are WOKE!
But they likely use a tooth paste that contains fluoride.
They did remove the fluoride from our water about a year and a half ago. I got my first cavity in 20 years last month.🙁
If you have a problem drinking fluorinated water, then don't drink it. Just like with books, if you don't want your kids to read a book, then don't let your kids read the book.
Why should a book about anal sex and blow jobs, be an option for kids to read???
@@molasorrosalom4846 Sheer deflection and idiocy.
If anyone put that book near a child, or lets it be near a child, or a child near it, you should be in jail. You imply that any sex education is perverse grooming, and ALL YOU DO IS SHOW YOUR IGNORANCE OF AND DISCOMFORT WITH SEX.
Shoo. Go away.
What a stupid piece of BS strawman argument. Don't do that again here or this pistolwhipping will continue.
Oh for the love of God! I love that parts of Texas has the highest level of natural occurring fluoride and actually has to lower the level of fluoride to prevent fluoridosis which causes white spots on the teeth. But they have lower levels of cavities. And they are against fluoride.
Anti-florid is not a new thing. A little bit is good.. Too much will discolor your teeth. The well water I grew up drinking had too much. My teeth are strong, but not the shiny white that our society prefers.
Don't people know Floride is a Communist plot affecting our purity of essence (from the movie Dr. Strangelove). Lol.
I’ve been waiting for this one. I’ve heard the fluoride in the water conspiracy coming. The best part is most of these people have no issue vaping and smoking.
"if it's good for us, why do we need it in our water source?"
I'm a liberal & have spent most of my life living in a rural area. I've drunk hard water most of my life. My grandma's house has a gas stove. It only has a hook up for a gas stove. I'm unable to get 5g. I'm unable to get high speed internet. I'm unable to get cable. I do have satellite TV, unless the weather is bad.
All of the culture wars these "conservatives" are trying to start don't affect me or my neighbors
As for the gas stove thing I agree with them needing regulations; especially in restaurants. My grandma already knew that breathing in that gas wasn't good for you so if we did alot of cooking or baking she'd open a window. Even in the middle of winter
I’m so sorry. My extended family still works the farm in Mississippi, and I know the actual needs of our rural voters are woefully underserved. I know you guys need internet, the right/ability to fix your own farming machines instead of being ripped off by John Deere, and from what I’ve heard, a decent nationwide cooperative for access to affordable building materials for home/out buildings wouldn’t go amiss either. And too many farming families have to have one adult work a corporate job so you guys have access to basic health/dental too.
Is there anything else I could write & nag my congress member about on your behalf? You guys grow our food- and we’d be hosed without you.
Moms for stupidity?
I guess they saw Dr. Strangelove and thought General Jack Ripper had a point. Protect your precious bodily fluids!
Oh god damnit not this again....
It’s weird that these “concerned parents” are rallying against fluoride (that reduces cavities) before they rally for universal dental care- which more kids will need if they abolish fluoride.
I like being able to choose which dentist I can go to. I also have dental insurance like a responsible adult
@@molasorrosalom4846 So, "The LEFT is gonna force you to go to THEIR dentist" is part of your completel made up garbage? Nice. How's that "They gonna take our guns!" ever since before Regan workin out for yua?
@@cartoonraccoon2078Well, in a good chunk of blue states, it's pretty much almost impossible to get one.
I know you people hate hearing this, but being a responsible adult means buying dental insurance.
@@molasorrosalom4846 I’m happy for you. Many responsible adults can’t afford dental insurance and their jobs don’t offer it. Please don’t confuse “Underpaid and a broken healthcare system” with “irresponsible. There’s plenty of money for dental insurance & free choice of dentists to be made affordable. Our society simply hasn’t wanted to admit how much money it would save us in emergency medical costs and lost work hours yet.
@@susanhale6197Majority of jobs offer dental insurance.
What next?
You people want universal car insurance?
Universal daycare?
What about consent about micro plastics in everything we buy and the environment? Or consent for all the pollution that companies pump in the air water or soil. All about consent until they want to remove their truck exhaust and go coal rolling. That pumps chemicals into the air that do nothing to clean the air and people are forced to breath it and the drivers even coal roll on civilians or other drivers that irritate them. And their often the same people that hate fluoride but love all the corporate food and drink ingredients that the rest of the world has outlawed for decades because they destroy human health.
Well said ….
"Moms for Stupidity" seems a better name for their organization.
Mom's for DumbFuckery!
My kid's school district requires dental forms for students entering kindergarten, 3nd grade, 6th grade, and 9th grade. Your kid cannot be enrolled without the forms completed by a certain date (at least in my state). That's why I'm guessing these nutter butters are taking their kids to the dentist - they don't have a choice if they want their kids in public school.
"How long can our society bear the cost of _knowingly_ lowering the population's IQ?"
Introduces bills to prevent the teaching of scientific theories, including gravity, cell theory, evolution, and climate change.
"If you think education is expensive, TRY IGNORANCE."
"Experience is a hard teacher, BUT A FOOL LEANS IN NO OTHER SCHOOL."
@@michaelmcgovern8110 Thank you for your contribution to the discussion, please keep us apprised any other bumper stickers you happen to read in the future.
When I was a kid in the 1950s flouride in the water was "a communist plot". As an aside, filling cavities was a major income generator for dentists. Our family dentist told my father that Crest toothpaste was a serious concern for his profession.
Fluoride bad, lead good. Keep it simple for the stupid people 👍
Why do these parents bring their kids to dentists but refused treatment? For the dentists' thoughts and prayers, maybe?
In the mid-20th Century, it was noted that people in Italy had considerably fewer calories than those in most other countries. It was determined that the natural presence of fluoride in the drinking water was responsible for the health benefit; hence municipal fluoridation. Stannous fluoride in toothpaste and mouthwash can also be beneficial, but the crazies will probably avoid that as well.
Omg- I didn’t know that was the way they discovered flouride is good for teeth! Thanks for posting this!!
My dad had extensive dental work done BEFORE he had his knee replacement surgery because of the possibility of hidden bacteria in his mouth attacking his body….this was a REQUIREMENT for the surgery.
The only reason we put flouride in our water is because people are so bad at brushing their teeth after eating all the super sugary, hyper processed foods we eat.
Have they given consent to driving on the right?
Driving on the right (or indeed, driving on the left) is not the same as medication.
I would however argue that public consent _should_ be obtained for such things as a change from driving on one side of the road to the other, daylight saving, metrication, water fluoridation and so on, because these sorts of things do have a big impact on people's lives.
@@resourcedragon No. Public health should not be decided at the ballot box, because a lot of people are fuxxing idiots.
When are they going to attack bread for the stuff they put in that to improve a person's health?
They are so concerned about the safety of their water, at home they all use modern filter systems to remove the fluoride, right !
So there is no issue, find something else to pretend to be outraged about.
I wish we had fluoridated water. Our municipal water system is old and the water is so heavily chlorinated, it's undrinkable and smells like bleach. We have to filter out everything.
Well, something is definitely lowering their IQ but it's not fluoride.
Closer kin deeper in, am I right?!
willful ignorance
reckless disregard
depraved indifference
Take your pick.
"If [their] IQ gets much lower, we'll have to water them twice a day." - Molly Ivins
Fluoride was put in the water to offset tooth decay. It is meant as a preventative measure, to cut dental costs.
They only drink the coolaid...😮😜
"Faux 'I Owe $4 Billion For Lying 'News'"
that wasn't easy to punctuate...
ah, back to the teeth of England
Fluoride in water doesn't do much for adult teeth, but it protects children's milk-teeth and helps strengthen the incoming adult teeth. Even though I personally don't have children, I still feel the children should be helped and protected. the graphs just reinforce that...
Stupid is as stupid does.
Again?? This was an issue decades ago. I’m so weary of repeating history.
John Birch Society nostalgia
Pretty sure I had fluoride tablets when I was a kid that kept my teeth strong
“It’s about choice,” say the people who want to take away choices in libraries, and women’s health care.
Flouride is natural in rocks that our water flows over
There are places where fluoride occurs naturally in the water. They have beautiful teeth with no side effects.
Can natural fluoride keep republicans away? We need to investigate this.
I have a mouth full of bad teeth because in my formative years I lived in Germany whose water had no fluoride.
Serious question (I'm all in favor of fluoridated water, okay?): If a child uses a fluoride toothpaste, is using fluoridated water necessary? I would bet that the kids who have higher frequencies of tooth decay not only don't have fluoridated water, but also don't use fluoride toothpaste. Maybe plain baking soda or wood ash, lol! Being stupid is one thing; being stupid with your kids is another.
They are not made the same way.
@@susandavis7800 Sorry, but I don't know what you mean.
What about toothpaste! That has fluoride