Inside Super-Advanced Cadillac US Factory Producing Luxury & Reliable American cars

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  • @usaproductionlines3065
    @usaproductionlines3065  Місяць тому +33

    I hope you enjoy the whole video and are not just here for the thumbnail 😉

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  • @MG-sj1em
    @MG-sj1em Місяць тому +8

    I have a Cadillac XT5 and absolutely love it. Best vehicle I've ever had. As for the workers, I agree workers should have uniforms and should follow rules like Asia and Europe.

  • @bricks-mortar
    @bricks-mortar Місяць тому +7

    40:20 There is the engine recall section. On any given day, those machines may be out of alignment. Next shift, they find it. But, engine already been made.

    • @usaproductionlines3065
      @usaproductionlines3065  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks so much for the comment and information! You all are a super community here in the comments

  • @Final_Fantasy_7
    @Final_Fantasy_7 3 дні тому +4

    ....im just here for the thumbnail & the drinks 🍸 👌 😊

  • @sjlivson
    @sjlivson Місяць тому +14

    I have a silver-grey Cadillac Lyriq, and I absolutely love it.

    • @luismrodriguez7360
      @luismrodriguez7360 Місяць тому

      Good for you , I would not by a Cadillac now days. No way my hard earned money will go to waste

    • @usaproductionlines3065
      @usaproductionlines3065  Місяць тому

      Congratulations! You're lucky... I wonder how long your Lyriq will last...

    • @sjlivson
      @sjlivson Місяць тому

      I wonder what are you doing with your hard-earned money… 😂

    • @sjlivson
      @sjlivson Місяць тому

      @ As an engineer I do not see any reasons my Lyriq will last less than any other electric car on the market. In addition, I do not see any reason an electric car will last less than a comparable ICE vehicle. Especially considering that electric cars have less failure prone mechanical cal assemblies as well as the fact that more and more cars are being made with smaller highly stressed turbo engines.

  • @justinallport9789
    @justinallport9789 Місяць тому +9

    I am guessing the plant is the old Saturn manufacturing facility ?

    • @usaproductionlines3065
      @usaproductionlines3065  Місяць тому

      Good guess! It was developed from 1985 and launched in 1990 as the sole manufacturing facility for Saturn Corporation.

  • @444444rld
    @444444rld Місяць тому +6

    Lansing Michigan i was there they also made Chevy camaros on the other side of the building!!!!

  • @jimzone8153
    @jimzone8153 4 години тому +1

    Just discovered your channel. This vid is fascinating. 👍🏼

    • @usaproductionlines3065
      @usaproductionlines3065  2 години тому

      Thanks so much for the kind comment and welcome to this community of car lovers :)

  • @aharris9661
    @aharris9661 Місяць тому +10

    I toured an auto assemble plant in Japan and noticed they pride themselves in quality where as it's performance based in the states. All about the numbers in the US.

    • @Anomize23
      @Anomize23 Місяць тому +4

      Oh its definitely spot on from what you said. It’s embarrassing to see what we have become. Something went wrong? KEEP THE LINE ROLLING! The very reason why I bought my 4runner several years ago thats made in japan after witnessing the horrific auto lineup here that they do.

  • @toddygallent7258
    @toddygallent7258 Місяць тому +7

    In 2004 I started an entry level welder position in a plant in Ontario Canada. I was paid $20 an hour as the starting wage.

    • @usaproductionlines3065
      @usaproductionlines3065  Місяць тому +2

      Well, that hasn't changed much :D Unfortunately, thanks to inflation, the prices of everything have increased... unfortunately, salaries haven't increased that much

  • @chrishardin4220
    @chrishardin4220 Місяць тому +8

    I have a 03 yukonwith the 5.3 vortec motor. I love it. It's getting on up there in years but it's the best I ever had and still runs great it now has 148.000 miles on her hut she still runs great

  • @andrewjasienski7890
    @andrewjasienski7890 Місяць тому +6

    Great presentation.

  • @reho7387
    @reho7387 Місяць тому +6

    I like the Chevy Suburban.

    • @usaproductionlines3065
      @usaproductionlines3065  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks so much for the comment and I wish you to get a Suburban soon...

  • @Charles-ke2po
    @Charles-ke2po 3 дні тому

    The best, only car on the road that catches my eye ,stands out, everything else looks the same, beautiful cars every year

  • @chris23860va
    @chris23860va Місяць тому +4

    Best of all its a Cadillac👍👍👍👍👍

  • @hermesonandrade276
    @hermesonandrade276 Місяць тому +3

    Muito legal 😎

  • @johnpezzullo9644
    @johnpezzullo9644 Місяць тому +8

    Incredible Video....Thanks so much. AWESOME and BEAUTIFUL AMERICAN CARS. !!!!

    • @anthonyrogers1508
      @anthonyrogers1508 Місяць тому +1

      I don’t know what part of the video you looking at🤣😂 cause not nothing on those cars are American all Chinese👀

    • @sjlivson
      @sjlivson Місяць тому

      @@anthonyrogers1508 You're mistaken. Some parts (motors, for example) are Chinese but most parts are of American origin.

  • @timtheng6362
    @timtheng6362 29 днів тому +1

    The best and best in the world

  • @bamidelesunday2308
    @bamidelesunday2308 Місяць тому +3

    GOOD VIDEO

  • @DrumaticTV
    @DrumaticTV 3 дні тому +2

    Here for the thumbnail

  • @coach2208
    @coach2208 Місяць тому +55

    EVs what a waste of products, nobody wants them, that's why all car manufacturers are losing tons of money and maybe going bankrupt, This is why gas vehicles are so dam high in prices because y'all are losing sales on EVs and trying to make it up on gas vehicles.

    • @sjlivson
      @sjlivson Місяць тому

      @@coach2208 Yes, yes, of course! Tesla, Rivian and Lucid cannot sell their electric vehicles, and they’re pushing up the prices of their gas models up to cover for the losses. Sure!

    • @DutchMaster2025
      @DutchMaster2025 Місяць тому +14

      it's why car insurance rates are going up a lot too

    • @Anomize23
      @Anomize23 Місяць тому +7

      DING DING DING!!! Couldn’t have been said more sensible.

    • @usaproductionlines3065
      @usaproductionlines3065  Місяць тому +5

      You're absolutely right... unfortunately it's a worldwide trend that has been slowing down over the last year (it seems to me), but it's not going to change...

    • @dellkickass
      @dellkickass 7 днів тому +1

      You're wrong because gasoline engines have problems air pollution and gasoline now very high. EV is very popular in China now in the future world

  • @ReneFlores-b7l
    @ReneFlores-b7l Місяць тому +6

    According to this video 30,000 vehicles are made in 1 day in this Cadillac assembly plant....... that's 1458 vehicles per hour 48 vehicles per minute..,there's no way possible ....

    • @usaproductionlines3065
      @usaproductionlines3065  Місяць тому +1

      Ouch! You're right, I added one extra zero... there should be 3,000 cars per day.

  • @jiggity76
    @jiggity76 Місяць тому +5

    Great video and always love to see the process of building modern vehicles. These new gens of SUV's and trucks coming from the general though have many styling issues. Gorgeous interiors, but the exteriors are terrible looking. This is even coming from a GM guy. I'm hoping the updates and full redesign that will be coming in the future will address these problems and that GM will make a nice looking vehicle again someday.

    • @usaproductionlines3065
      @usaproductionlines3065  Місяць тому

      Thanks so much for the comment. So let's hope they work on the outside appearance soon...

  • @hanssiegel9882
    @hanssiegel9882 Місяць тому +3

    Everything looks good, but what about reliability and maintenance costs?

    • @usaproductionlines3065
      @usaproductionlines3065  Місяць тому

      Well, it's not the least... :( Cadillac has historically been a luxury brand, and at the beginning of the last century was considered to be a luxury manufacturer similar to Rolls-Royce... Unfortunately, the high cost of maintenance has remained to this day :D

    • @sjlivson
      @sjlivson Місяць тому

      It's a new line, so reliability is not established yet. On the other hand, electric cars require virtually no maintenance.

  • @joseduranjr4963
    @joseduranjr4963 Місяць тому +3

    I’d love to see it in an Auburn Frost color with amaretto leather

  • @marty5300
    @marty5300 День тому

    These ain't your grandpa's caddies anymore.. these days they're performance beasts and look sharp.

  • @MS3DALE
    @MS3DALE Місяць тому +12

    As a 35 year GM dealer employee, and having visited many GM assembly plants over the years, there is so much misinformation in this video, I don't even know where to begin 🤔

    • @ScottDC-Rehoboth
      @ScottDC-Rehoboth Місяць тому +4

      Like what, for instance?

    • @TheMrlucky510
      @TheMrlucky510 Місяць тому +6

      Tell us

    • @dothedishes3427
      @dothedishes3427 Місяць тому +1

      The journey of 1,000 miles begins with one step. Say at least one thing?

    • @usaproductionlines3065
      @usaproductionlines3065  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks for the comment but I'll be awfully happy if you at least give some misinformation...

    • @sjlivson
      @sjlivson Місяць тому

      @@usaproductionlines3065 It seems that this misinformation is non-existing, and requests for examples will remain unanswered.

  • @piponamyriel13
    @piponamyriel13 Місяць тому +2

    I love the American made products ❤️🇺🇸

  • @ChristSotos-fy4vw
    @ChristSotos-fy4vw 2 дні тому +1

    I'm through can't stop laughing notice the size of most of the employees 😂

  • @Garth2011
    @Garth2011 Місяць тому +2

    Corvette C7 takes the trophy in my opinion. Silverado then the Suburban.

    • @usaproductionlines3065
      @usaproductionlines3065  Місяць тому

      I couldn't agree with you more! What kind of car do you own?

    • @Garth2011
      @Garth2011 Місяць тому

      @@usaproductionlines3065 1989 GMC 4x4 Suburban

  • @WillGettinToIt
    @WillGettinToIt 4 дні тому

    I worked in the Spring Hill plant for years and now at the Arlington plant for years

  • @DesertAdventureRC
    @DesertAdventureRC Місяць тому +2

    Are Suburban, Tahoe, Yukon in same factory with Caddies Esc?

  • @KreweOfBridge
    @KreweOfBridge 6 днів тому

    How cool and interesting

  • @7_slices
    @7_slices Місяць тому +1

    Next level

  • @jawadawais2919
    @jawadawais2919 17 хвилин тому

    ❤ Good🎉

  • @tanierliperez-barquero5313
    @tanierliperez-barquero5313 11 днів тому

    Donal trom esperemos que mejores la industria automotriz americana

  • @richyp64
    @richyp64 Місяць тому +4

    I live in a blue sanctuary city and the tweakers constantly strip the copper wire from our EV charging stations.

  • @joemiller2057
    @joemiller2057 Місяць тому +1

    I have a safety concern about the Headlights working properly at night shining on the roads they don't look like they are shining on the road

  • @lloydzufelt7514
    @lloydzufelt7514 3 дні тому

    As a former firefighter and safety manager I would never let anyone wear those clothes

  • @danielramsey1959
    @danielramsey1959 Місяць тому +1

    I own an Escalade and the XT6.

  • @kellsAC1
    @kellsAC1 2 дні тому +1

    Reliable? Almost every truck in this factory was awarded least reliable SUV of the year by Consumer Reports.

  • @reho7387
    @reho7387 Місяць тому +1

    I own a gray XT5. I like it but the gray paint thing needs to be augmented with some color.

  • @USER-omar555
    @USER-omar555 Місяць тому +1

    👍👍👏👏👏

  • @coreyjones1518
    @coreyjones1518 16 днів тому

    Great video. Don't care for the Grey.

  • @SuonSokhan
    @SuonSokhan 6 днів тому

    cambodian ❤❤

  • @dpaulak
    @dpaulak Місяць тому +1

    enjoyed it!

    • @usaproductionlines3065
      @usaproductionlines3065  Місяць тому

      Thanks so much for the complimentary comment. I appreciate it and would be happy if you join the community of this YT channel :)

  • @danakibby627
    @danakibby627 Місяць тому +2

    Why is a Acura-Honda being built in a GM factory? Is it really not a true ACURA- Honda?

    • @usaproductionlines3065
      @usaproductionlines3065  Місяць тому

      "Spring Hill Manufacturing is a General Motors factory in Spring Hill, Tennessee. It was developed from 1985 and launched in 1990 as the sole manufacturing facility for Saturn Corporation. The plant currently includes vehicle assembly (Cadillac Lyriq, Cadillac XT5, Cadillac XT6, and Acura ZDX) plus powertrain, stamping and molding operations"

    • @MS3DALE
      @MS3DALE Місяць тому

      The ZDX is manufactured alongside the Cadillac Lyriq (also built on GM's Ultium platform like the Blazer EV) in GM's Spring Hill, Tennessee facility. Much is shared between the ZDX and Blazer EV. Their wheelbases are the same, and the Blazer EV's available 102-kWh battery pack is standard on all ZDX models.

    • @lilred1107
      @lilred1107 7 днів тому

      Because Honda wants it and cannot currently build it themselves.

  • @ayoCanada0921
    @ayoCanada0921 Місяць тому +4

    I am here to enjoy the video and the thumbnail, where is the thumbnail anyway 🤣

  • @Orionhntr03
    @Orionhntr03 8 днів тому

    Is the voice in the video A.I. Generated? Something sounds just a little off about it

  • @mrbill8542
    @mrbill8542 Місяць тому +1

    You didn't show where they put in all the bad wiring !!

    • @usaproductionlines3065
      @usaproductionlines3065  Місяць тому

      Well, I think the video also shows them installing the electrical cables into the Cadillac...

  • @MitchGrooms
    @MitchGrooms Місяць тому +2

    At 3:16, look at the ripples in the sheet metal..WOW and it passed..

    • @usaproductionlines3065
      @usaproductionlines3065  Місяць тому

      Thanks for the comment, you make a good point... yes unfortunately this will pass :(

  • @frios011
    @frios011 Місяць тому +1

    Hey its the Cadicrap factory! HAHAHA!

  • @bikdav
    @bikdav Місяць тому +1

    Cadillac builds the Acura ZDX? Did I read that right?

    • @usaproductionlines3065
      @usaproductionlines3065  Місяць тому +1

      Nope.. "Spring Hill Manufacturing currently includes vehicle assembly (Cadillac Lyriq, Cadillac XT5, Cadillac XT6, and Acura ZDX) plus powertrain, stamping and molding operations."

    • @MS3DALE
      @MS3DALE Місяць тому +1

      The ZDX is manufactured alongside the Cadillac Lyriq (also built on GM's Ultium platform like the Blazer EV) in GM's Spring Hill, Tennessee facility. Much is shared between the ZDX and Blazer EV. Their wheelbases are the same, and the Blazer EV's available 102-kWh battery pack is standard on all ZDX models.

  • @fehlrock
    @fehlrock 4 дні тому +1

    I loved All GM cars growing up in the 1960s. After my first Toyota, I only by japanese cars. I want a GM vehicle, but I still hear too many complaints. Transmissions etc. Can't blame workers, Camry's Accord's made in USA are better than the japanese made ones !

  • @zacklee5168
    @zacklee5168 Місяць тому +3

    This "Super-Advanced" US factory looks older than my dad workshop in the 70's 😅No wonder america can't compete with the Chinese or European....

  • @julieuehline9334
    @julieuehline9334 День тому

    Reminds me of the old wixom plant. Ship it! Can’t see why they charge so much for new cars now. I left ford in 2000 and was at 21.92$ working on the line . Body shop zombie

  • @WZD10016
    @WZD10016 Місяць тому +1

    Good Limousine

  • @BruceReynolds-m1o
    @BruceReynolds-m1o Місяць тому +1

    Why can't there be Greens, Reds, Blues and other nice Colours. Grey is so dangerous at Dawn and Dusk.

    • @toddprater14
      @toddprater14 5 днів тому

      I hate gray, gm has had 3 shades of gray since 2012… gray is everywhere now even in home remodeling or new builds ..gray furniture,gray flooring, gray cabinets ,gray tv stands gray rugs ,gray on walls, yuk.

  • @جباركريم-م4ر
    @جباركريم-م4ر Місяць тому

    بسم الله ماشاء والله

  • @jamielancaster01
    @jamielancaster01 Місяць тому +4

    $25 an hour is not very much money.

  • @Whoddathunk
    @Whoddathunk 6 днів тому

    Anyone no what part of the video the girls in the thumbnail is?

  • @MarkWG
    @MarkWG Місяць тому

    Boasting that Cadillac sold over 147,000 vehicles last year in the US is actually nothing to brag about. In the 1970's, a typical year saw over 350,000 Cadillacs sold each year from 1970 through the end of 1979. I believe that 1979 was its greatest production record year. They no longer build actual Cadillacs. That's why.

  • @johnhaluska250
    @johnhaluska250 Місяць тому +1

    My brother works at that plant he works with engines

  • @JoseLuna-gs6bu
    @JoseLuna-gs6bu Місяць тому +1

    Those car very expensive for the people

  • @Jasona1976
    @Jasona1976 Місяць тому +1

    Beautiful car....but too expensive.

  • @victorgoodwin468
    @victorgoodwin468 Місяць тому

    30,000 vehicles a day is impossible. You would make your yearly US sales in 5 days.

  • @patram4880
    @patram4880 5 днів тому

    I like RAM

  • @MrTeddybear1973
    @MrTeddybear1973 День тому

    Gray or gold champagne color Lyriq I’ve owed
    A DTS and One CTS both great.cars but myCTS ended head on collision.

  • @roywilkes5899
    @roywilkes5899 Місяць тому +2

    For from reliable and I work in the auto industry!!

  • @KDTom-wp9ys
    @KDTom-wp9ys 3 дні тому

    JUST A CHEVROLET WITH ADDED FUFU. AMERICAN CARS STILL PAYING CATCHUP TO EUROPE.

  • @MarkWG
    @MarkWG Місяць тому +1

    There is absolutely NO way that factory produces 30,000 vehicles per day!😂😂😂 They'd be done for the whole year in less than a week!
    Man, the front end of those Chevrolet full-sized SUV's are so damn ugly.😂

  • @zebzilla2781
    @zebzilla2781 2 дні тому +1

    Reliable my ass, that’s all I see is GM products on the side of the road. American Garbage. We can make a F22 Raptor yet we can’t make great reliable cars.

  • @omarzowila
    @omarzowila Місяць тому

    The 2021-2024 Suburban and Tahoe looked more like a car in the front but with the 2025 refresh, it looks more like a truck

  • @MarkWG
    @MarkWG Місяць тому +1

    The last Corvette was built in 1972, as far as I am concerned. After the early 1990's, they began to take on a Warner-Brothers cartoon look to them, such as the latest models. They've tried too hard to look "exotic" and "European." Now, they are just plain ugly and are extremely way overpriced to the max. I'll take a Shelby Cobra over a GM Corvette any day of the week. Plus, Shelby's are much more powerful than Corvettes. Higher resale value than Corvette. A fact that doesn't set too well for Corvette owners. Corvettes wreak of Aqua Velva and gold chains, mostly driven by mid-life-crisis men.

  • @Rado88
    @Rado88 7 днів тому

    What’s the weird music they play over and over again? Lol

  • @youarerightboss
    @youarerightboss Місяць тому +1

    EVs are DOA

  • @armenmed122
    @armenmed122 Місяць тому

    Lol. The title has the word reliable

  • @sandydiakos1738
    @sandydiakos1738 Місяць тому +2

    Manufacturers are recouping their EV losses through conventional vehicles & that’s why new cars are very very expensive

  • @PyrosPelagics
    @PyrosPelagics Місяць тому

    these skilled workers are really making 25hr? serious? thats kinda low paying? whatever they do im sure a robot could do, so these positions are more like charity jobs given to keep money moving around in the local town economy...

  • @AnouarElbouzakhti
    @AnouarElbouzakhti Місяць тому

    Porque en este canal pone imágenes de mujeres en la portada??

  • @randymente80
    @randymente80 Місяць тому +2

    Plastic that fade's and thin tin that rusts away in 5 years

  • @hall6ppc1
    @hall6ppc1 Місяць тому +2

    All of that manufacturing technology and you end up with a pile of overpriced junk

  • @mortihernandezmora1122
    @mortihernandezmora1122 Місяць тому

    Really i sorry adquare this
    cars never can for people poor is only comparative real life but is only industrie more😊😮

  • @charlietanner6211
    @charlietanner6211 Місяць тому +1

    i spent 38 yrs at gm this is not put together very good should follow a start to finish video not jump all over and they dont build 30000 a day

    • @MS3DALE
      @MS3DALE Місяць тому

      A lot of wrong information in this video for sure.

  • @artagain8977
    @artagain8977 Місяць тому +3

    Ah yes, members of the UAW making $75+ an hour with ridiculous benefits to push a robot arm around. Just one of the many reasons the average car is $46k.

    • @DutchMaster2025
      @DutchMaster2025 Місяць тому

      the video said that many of them don't last long... also, it seems like they are being exposed to chemicals and loud noises all day

  • @SirD1
    @SirD1 Місяць тому +2

    Overpriced cars

  • @mattwict
    @mattwict Місяць тому +1

    Ridiculously overpriced aluminum and plastic. Nah, I’ll keep my reliable jalopy. Low registration fees and low insurance rates. People do not need all that fancy stuff. Complete waste of money. It’s only transportation to and from work. Possible vacation or two…. When will people wake up?

  • @anthonyrogers1508
    @anthonyrogers1508 Місяць тому +1

    not one of General motor products 🤮they all are no good☠️ bad News🤔 and all of those Chinese pieces and parts. They use it to build general motors Chinese parts🤣😂 and now they (general motors) decide to go electric🫣 something is seriously wrong

  • @jmc2development754
    @jmc2development754 26 днів тому

    30,000 vehicles a day at this one plant?? Total BS

  • @thomazz1976
    @thomazz1976 Місяць тому +2

    Most expensive crap you can buy

  • @rakeem176
    @rakeem176 Місяць тому +1

    Reliable american cars 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @V8-friendly
    @V8-friendly Місяць тому +1

    Reliable? 😂🤣😂

    • @usaproductionlines3065
      @usaproductionlines3065  Місяць тому

      Don't you have that experience? What happened to you?

    • @V8-friendly
      @V8-friendly Місяць тому

      @ A Ford Thunderbird. Biggest POS! At around 90k miles the whole thing completely fell apart. Now an V8 import from South Korea. In seven years not a a single time in the shop. Just one oil change a year, and that's it.

  • @jeffreywhite7657
    @jeffreywhite7657 Місяць тому

    My friends brothers cousins sisters dads friend had a dog that tore up a new cadi back seat.

  • @Justhings332
    @Justhings332 12 днів тому

    TM GM

  • @jamesdarren9149
    @jamesdarren9149 7 годин тому

    They dont look very professional or don’t care on how they look!

  • @raulherrera1976
    @raulherrera1976 Місяць тому

    I would NEVER EVER BUY A CADILLAC. Gave my father IN-law a Cadillac and fifteen years later it was FALLING APART.

  • @chrishardin4220
    @chrishardin4220 Місяць тому

    I owned a 2010 equinox I loved the car but the motor was SHIT. I HAD THE 4 cylinder it drank oil like it was gas

  • @jamesfriss4149
    @jamesfriss4149 Місяць тому +1

    Such a garbage SUV

  • @7_slices
    @7_slices Місяць тому

    These ppl so lazy these days thank god for the tech or we would never have stock

  • @loum.4377
    @loum.4377 Місяць тому

    These cars lose value immediately. In 3 years upto 55%. Always buy Esclade used with Certified CPO.