I have certainly been through the stages of climate grief as I learned of the possible climate tragedy to come. But when one comes through to the acceptance part, there is a clarity that comes that compels one to act. I’m in such a stage and actually now planning for a major career shift more in line with my values and in the direction of helping people become resilient through whatever may come
I appreciate this very much. I've been going thru a very similar process for the last decade after 30 of previous environmental activism. Shedding old dreams and the identity they upheld.... lots of greiving but also emerging into something clearer and more real. The only part that seems exotic to me is the idea that this process puts you in contact with others who are in a similar place.... perhaps it has for professor Bendell, who is an academic and has worked in very related fields. But for a construction worker like me it has been nothing but alienating and increasingly surreal, out in the "real" world there are very few people who have the background knowledge and the emotional fortitude to admit to themselves what is happening and what it'll bring and they don't appreciate anyone undermining their increasingly tenuous hold on normativity.
When I looked at the data a few years back, it was like shit and WTF. I then started to get my house ready to go off grid, designed my own solar off grid system and it was at that point I realized green energy won't work, so I scraped the idea and accepted near term human extinction, now I just spend as much time as I can with my family and wait for it to begin in my white privileged world and at the same time hope it won't be that bad up till the end.
A great talk. Fragile honest human real truth. Thank you both. I was stunned by the essay "Deep Adaptation". But it was clear the Belgians, my own friends, my family were not ready to accept, to grieve for CC. They disrespecyed my studies while I was grieving in silence with alone but as figures as you both. "Elisabeth, you may NOT talk about CC to the children. The children of my brother (who died also my mother and father). They are now 22 and 23 years old. They deny a 100% climate change. There is because of this such a distance between family-members. I broke up with my friend. His livelyhood is dependent of the climate growing gardenplants in 5ha greenhouses. It's hot and humid. But when I said that cattle 'emmits' a powerful greenhouse-gas, he found it hilarious. He clings to family-tradition. Cows are necessary for our daily diet and they eat daily meat of half a cow in their deepfreeze. I tried to expkain the process of methabe-release in the Arctic because of the melting. I said it is a ticking timebomb. They laughed. My friend and his family. "So the earth is going to fart. We will no hear or smell it. You're funny with your urban ideas. You are from time. You do not understand Nature. I was so hurted, I went home and never saw them again. Will the CC lead to divorces too? Next to violence, rage whatever. Because our standard media are too cowardly to mention once the climate change and it's consecuences? I in a second stage of grieve. Alienating from my own family community and country.
I feel no need to have shared views among friends and family on this issue. I just go about living until I don’t. No need to have anyone else see what I see, although of course they are out there. What I can’t handle is a friend who votes for trump; I can’t be friends with her anymore (there’s only one).
Loving response is what got us here. If Capitalists had lost the cold war the brakes would have been thrown on unnecessary production. Dead billionaires is the answer
I have certainly been through the stages of climate grief as I learned of the possible climate tragedy to come. But when one comes through to the acceptance part, there is a clarity that comes that compels one to act. I’m in such a stage and actually now planning for a major career shift more in line with my values and in the direction of helping people become resilient through whatever may come
I appreciate this very much. I've been going thru a very similar process for the last decade after 30 of previous environmental activism. Shedding old dreams and the identity they upheld.... lots of greiving but also emerging into something clearer and more real. The only part that seems exotic to me is the idea that this process puts you in contact with others who are in a similar place.... perhaps it has for professor Bendell, who is an academic and has worked in very related fields. But for a construction worker like me it has been nothing but alienating and increasingly surreal, out in the "real" world there are very few people who have the background knowledge and the emotional fortitude to admit to themselves what is happening and what it'll bring and they don't appreciate anyone undermining their increasingly tenuous hold on normativity.
When I looked at the data a few years back, it was like shit and WTF. I then started to get my house ready to go off grid, designed my own solar off grid system and it was at that point I realized green energy won't work, so I scraped the idea and accepted near term human extinction, now I just spend as much time as I can with my family and wait for it to begin in my white privileged world and at the same time hope it won't be that bad up till the end.
10 minutes in ,,,, good god let him talk. ❤️❤️🌎❤️❤️
Yep. Came to say that.
Technically 8:30
A great talk. Fragile honest human real truth. Thank you both. I was stunned by the essay "Deep Adaptation". But it was clear the Belgians, my own friends, my family were not ready to accept, to grieve for CC. They disrespecyed my studies while I was grieving in silence with alone but as figures as you both. "Elisabeth, you may NOT talk about CC to the children. The children of my brother (who died also my mother and father). They are now 22 and 23 years old. They deny a 100% climate change. There is because of this such a distance between family-members. I broke up with my friend. His livelyhood is dependent of the climate growing gardenplants in 5ha greenhouses. It's hot and humid. But when I said that cattle 'emmits' a powerful greenhouse-gas, he found it hilarious. He clings to family-tradition. Cows are necessary for our daily diet and they eat daily meat of half a cow in their deepfreeze. I tried to expkain the process of methabe-release in the Arctic because of the melting. I said it is a ticking timebomb. They laughed. My friend and his family. "So the earth is going to fart. We will no hear or smell it. You're funny with your urban ideas. You are from time. You do not understand Nature. I was so hurted, I went home and never saw them again. Will the CC lead to divorces too? Next to violence, rage whatever. Because our standard media are too cowardly to mention once the climate change and it's consecuences? I in a second stage of grieve. Alienating from my own family community and country.
I feel no need to have shared views among friends and family on this issue. I just go about living until I don’t. No need to have anyone else see what I see, although of course they are out there. What I can’t handle is a friend who votes for trump; I can’t be friends with her anymore (there’s only one).
Thank you for sharing
"what could possibly go right" the ultimate doomer question
Loving response is what got us here. If Capitalists had lost the cold war the brakes would have been thrown on unnecessary production. Dead billionaires is the answer
Empty, nice.