Thanks for showing us these alternative parts from time to time. It is good to know there a other venders out there trying to give the monopolies of tech some competition.
What could possibly go wrong?I Tried the CHEAPEST B450 Motherboard on Aliexpress , I Trust Aliexpress used parts, I purchase from Aliexpress instead of trusted sources
I have sold a few systems with this board. My 11 year old Roblox addict has been beating one the last couple months and it's been great. I only pair them with used 1000 and 2000 series CPUs and OEM only variants that don't have PCIe 4. I don't want to give that up in the long run just to save $40 on a build over a new name brand B550. I have a small MSP and repair shop so my builds are commissioned ahead of time, I'm not putting my own money out doing flips.
I really enjoyed this video and the fact that this MB past the TechYes Sub 50$ challenge. Not gonna lie there was some suspens lol and I enjoyed that this cheap mb is doing the job (who wouldn't ?)
So the fix for the CSM mode is this: You have to switch the GPU and everything else from legacy to UEFI first. Now save the bios, and reboot. Now go back into the bios and disable CSM. It takes two steps, but it does work!
That's the exact steps I took lol. I noticed my capture card was flicking in and out as well with CSM off. The GPU compatibility simply hasn't been programmed into it.
It looks like Soyo, Kyo, or Maxsun. I also use cheap Chinese mobo B450m and A520M. They are actually enough for our daily work, but the Bios, yes, it's weird.
I have used this exact motherboard for a pc flip with a ryzen 5 5500, 16gb ddr4 3200mhz ram and rx 5700xt and it was awesome! only problem i found was that there was no xmp. I just couldn't find the setting.
Running an asus b450m a for a few years now, costs 50 € incl. 19% tax here in Germany. New. Frequent BIOS updates, no issues. There is no reason to buy those unknown Mainboards.
~$250 platform let's go. Like this + 5700X3D + 32g should be right about there. Stack a decent PSU and a cheapo gen 3 SSD into it and let the rest of your budget go to the video card. So long as you avoid the 4060/x600 PCIe hole, it'll perform on par with literally any of the "new" systems for gaming, while putting you a full tier higher on GPU by way of cost savings... Even against like a MicroCenter 7600X combo where most of the AM5 platform costs kinda disappear.
I bought two aorus b450 elite motherboards from 2 separate sellers for an average of $50. There are a lot of AM4 motherboards going for cheap right now everyone is going AM5. Got some 5700X3Ds to go with them.
Back in the day I had a few machinist boards with Intel 2011 sockets. They were fine. Granted I didn’t run them hard (just some VM servers running 2697v2s that weren’t pushed particularly hard).
Hey Brian, i would love to hear your thoughts on PCIe gen 3 vs 4 since it seems like even a 4090 can't use all the bandwidth, how long do you think it take for PCIe gen 3 to become a bottleneck.
@@scorpiom8053 Maybe. I live in such a place but budget brand mobos are still fairly priced. Like AsRock b450 mobos start at 60$, b550 at 80$. And due to VAT and shipping getting stuff from Ali is *more* expensive.
It’s either this B450M board from Machinist or the Soyo Classic, at least back when I still bought them. Though I much prefer the latter in terms of how they look lol
I really enjoy this cheap pc parts video. Also can I ask how did you do the sound test? I would like to replicate it and test some of my audio interfaces lying around.
keep in mind it was an open test bench, in a case those VRMs are prob getting hotter, depending on the case, so questionable if its worth since u can get a msi b450m a / gigabyte b450m k or specifically an asrock 450m hdv etc. for the same price with proper bios/support & warranty. if they would sell it for like 20-25 bucks that would be a good deal imo
You created your own issue here. UEFI is required for resizable bar, UEFI requires secure boot, which you disabled. Does not need the TPM but definitely needs secure boot. Still wouldn't purchase this board but you set yourself up for failure on that one. You shouldn't be using legacy boot and CSM on a modern platform unless you have a 10+ year old weird add-in card that refuses to work with secure boot, or you are carrying over an OS drive from like 10 years ago. Secure boot has been a thing since UEFI, so 2011, there is nothing wrong with using it if you are ONLY running windows.
lol, no, this brand is old now, this is just cheap old socket, the customers he has already know him and know the warranty expect weird surprises with those x99 and similar mobos using old server chips
Dead set bloke. Please get off the staying with Windows 10 thing. I understand completely the technical reasons why you do it but this will harm your channel. Most viewers don't really understand the level of tech needed to agree on the Win 10 stonewall. Another related issue is you need to constantly remind yourself of your audience. You're getting past the point of being the "everyone's PC tech bloke". Get some less tech savvy people to review your content before releasing it. You don't know it but in many vids you've been talking with yourself. I'll lend a free hand just to show you how old heads might work if you want. Get in touch champ and keep it real.
You trolling? Half the people still use Windows 10. Steam charts from this September: Windows 10 64 bit 48.66% (+1.57%) Windows 11 64 bit 47.69% (-1.48%) The remainder is OSX, Linux and Windows 7
Anyone who buys a used/not from a store pc dont have much knowledge to complain about bad bios or no vrm heatsink or no brand motherboard, they just want a pc to play lol roblox cs2 or the likes and for that these boards are.just.fine.
Chipset doesn't have E on it. That means it's not expensive because the E stands for expensive.
lol
Wait, did you just leak a B450E release?
@@techyescitypart of AMD's master plan to support AM4 until the heat death of the universe
Here in China, this board is selling for 305yuan(43USD), so they charged 4 dollar more for shipping, which is fair I think
That's actually not bad at all! Thanks for the info!
@@techyescity Thank you for your great review, sir!
A pc Builder on marketplace put me onto this boards 4 or 5 months back and it's been great for my sister's build.
Thanks for showing us these alternative parts from time to time. It is good to know there a other venders out there trying to give the monopolies of tech some competition.
What could possibly go wrong?I Tried the CHEAPEST B450 Motherboard on Aliexpress , I Trust Aliexpress used parts, I purchase from Aliexpress instead of trusted sources
I love the way Brian brings different levels of tech content. This channel is truly UNIQUE.
I have sold a few systems with this board. My 11 year old Roblox addict has been beating one the last couple months and it's been great. I only pair them with used 1000 and 2000 series CPUs and OEM only variants that don't have PCIe 4. I don't want to give that up in the long run just to save $40 on a build over a new name brand B550. I have a small MSP and repair shop so my builds are commissioned ahead of time, I'm not putting my own money out doing flips.
*I see it all the time for very cheap, always avoided as Maxsun A520 and B550 were not much more.*
I really enjoyed this video and the fact that this MB past the TechYes Sub 50$ challenge. Not gonna lie there was some suspens lol and I enjoyed that this cheap mb is doing the job (who wouldn't ?)
So the fix for the CSM mode is this: You have to switch the GPU and everything else from legacy to UEFI first. Now save the bios, and reboot. Now go back into the bios and disable CSM. It takes two steps, but it does work!
That's the exact steps I took lol. I noticed my capture card was flicking in and out as well with CSM off. The GPU compatibility simply hasn't been programmed into it.
It looks like Soyo, Kyo, or Maxsun. I also use cheap Chinese mobo B450m and A520M. They are actually enough for our daily work, but the Bios, yes, it's weird.
I think i saw a half decent b450 motherboard on amazon for $55 from gigabyte. Would pay the extra $5
My Gigabyte A520M S2H runs a 5700x3d fine. :D
@@PPCMR pcie 3.0
@@Lennox032 A non-issue
Yeah definitely worth an extra $5, but I find a big 4 motherboard at those prices doesn't last that long and quickly goes back up to $70+
@@PPCMR A big issue if you are getting a cheaper GPU with only a few PCIe lanes designed for PCIe 4.0.
Fascinating. I thoght Ali-Express electronics were not usable at all. Thanks for keeping up the good work.
I have used this exact motherboard for a pc flip with a ryzen 5 5500, 16gb ddr4 3200mhz ram and rx 5700xt and it was awesome! only problem i found was that there was no xmp. I just couldn't find the setting.
Running an asus b450m a for a few years now, costs 50 € incl. 19% tax here in Germany. New. Frequent BIOS updates, no issues. There is no reason to buy those unknown Mainboards.
dont sustain the politburo fu China.
~$250 platform let's go.
Like this + 5700X3D + 32g should be right about there. Stack a decent PSU and a cheapo gen 3 SSD into it and let the rest of your budget go to the video card. So long as you avoid the 4060/x600 PCIe hole, it'll perform on par with literally any of the "new" systems for gaming, while putting you a full tier higher on GPU by way of cost savings... Even against like a MicroCenter 7600X combo where most of the AM5 platform costs kinda disappear.
Amazing entry level build alternative. You're the value find king, truly!! :)
8:42 I love a good brekkie with a side of Ryzen and Xeon for dessert.
I really wish these Chinese mobo have great bios on them it's pretty stressful when you have to manually set everything to work perfectly.
As a flipper would I use these in builds to sell to customers? No
Use for one of my own projects? Sure, if it fits the use case
mini itx version of this board for 60 euros seems very interesting for that price
i needed thi review thanks a lot
I bought two aorus b450 elite motherboards from 2 separate sellers for an average of $50. There are a lot of AM4 motherboards going for cheap right now everyone is going AM5. Got some 5700X3Ds to go with them.
Back in the day I had a few machinist boards with Intel 2011 sockets. They were fine. Granted I didn’t run them hard (just some VM servers running 2697v2s that weren’t pushed particularly hard).
Hey Brian, i would love to hear your thoughts on PCIe gen 3 vs 4 since it seems like even a 4090 can't use all the bandwidth, how long do you think it take for PCIe gen 3 to become a bottleneck.
Some brand B450 mobos with heatsinked VRM are ~60$ though.
depends on where you live, cheap aliexpress mobos are a good option for those who live in places where known-brand options are expensive.
@@scorpiom8053 Maybe. I live in such a place but budget brand mobos are still fairly priced. Like AsRock b450 mobos start at 60$, b550 at 80$. And due to VAT and shipping getting stuff from Ali is *more* expensive.
I would be sceptical regarding UEFI update support.
I wouldn't expect any kind of updates
Why would you need that? This is an older platform now.
@@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE Security reasons perhaps.
It’s either this B450M board from Machinist or the Soyo Classic, at least back when I still bought them. Though I much prefer the latter in terms of how they look lol
I really enjoy this cheap pc parts video. Also can I ask how did you do the sound test? I would like to replicate it and test some of my audio interfaces lying around.
Too bad it's a B450 chipset. PCIe 4.0 is a really nice to have feature of a B550.
paired it w/ a 5600 and an arc a750...i have a couple of machinist motherboards...the price is great and the performance is there
keep in mind it was an open test bench, in a case those VRMs are prob getting hotter, depending on the case, so questionable if its worth since u can get a msi b450m a / gigabyte b450m k or specifically an asrock 450m hdv etc. for the same price with proper bios/support & warranty. if they would sell it for like 20-25 bucks that would be a good deal imo
What if we put Thermal pad + Copper heatsink on the VRM? will it be decently cooled?
Most likely yes, but you need adhesive termal tape
Probably the only downside is that it has only two USB3 ports on the I/O. Like that white PCB a lot.
Cheap Chinese mobo - undetectable back door pre-installed in BIOS would be my worry.
pls more of AliExpress motherboards ...try lga 1700 and lga 1200
Could you pleases test an Asrock B450M Steel Legend mobo on am4. I would like to know the vrm temps and audio. I would appreciate it.
You can get a b550 bare bones board for like $90 aud
crazy cheap.
man i tried buying these and all sold out and they dont ship to canada
You created your own issue here. UEFI is required for resizable bar, UEFI requires secure boot, which you disabled. Does not need the TPM but definitely needs secure boot. Still wouldn't purchase this board but you set yourself up for failure on that one. You shouldn't be using legacy boot and CSM on a modern platform unless you have a 10+ year old weird add-in card that refuses to work with secure boot, or you are carrying over an OS drive from like 10 years ago. Secure boot has been a thing since UEFI, so 2011, there is nothing wrong with using it if you are ONLY running windows.
i would like to see you run a different heatsink to see how much the vrm increases temperature
Or maybe stick some cheap aluminum heatsinks on the vrm and see if it helps under heavy loads
Would a 5700g work in that?
use something like the 5900x because the 5700x3d is one of the most efficient CPUs
I've had problems with their x99 boards, so hopefully this is better
What problems did you come into on the x99? I had a couple and had some teething pains but once working they were fine.
Christian Bale approved.
Doesnt even come with a cmos battery🤣
Overseas shipping does not have cmos battery these days.
I see branded B450 mobos new for less.
you could just buy new MSI or AsRock 46 euro and 51 euro why would you even buy it from China lmao
Rgb bios + wd40 mod = free fps boost
Pour robitussin on it to kill the viruses
Machinist xD
I’m amazed you even got it. I’ve tried ordering no fewer than four times, and every time my order gets canceled on the seller side within a day.
more cheap content my man
Ouyeah!
Yeah buying cheap no name brand motherboard saying solemn to your customers is a great way to ensure no future repeat sales
lol, no, this brand is old now, this is just cheap old socket, the customers he has already know him and know the warranty
expect weird surprises with those x99 and similar mobos using old server chips
84+ degrees no thanks !
Btw avoid Ali express like the plague.
nah ali is good
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Dead set bloke. Please get off the staying with Windows 10 thing. I understand completely the technical reasons why you do it but this will harm your channel. Most viewers don't really understand the level of tech needed to agree on the Win 10 stonewall. Another related issue is you need to constantly remind yourself of your audience. You're getting past the point of being the "everyone's PC tech bloke". Get some less tech savvy people to review your content before releasing it. You don't know it but in many vids you've been talking with yourself. I'll lend a free hand just to show you how old heads might work if you want. Get in touch champ and keep it real.
What did I just read?
You trolling? Half the people still use Windows 10.
Steam charts from this September:
Windows 10 64 bit 48.66% (+1.57%)
Windows 11 64 bit 47.69% (-1.48%)
The remainder is OSX, Linux and Windows 7
If you sell PC's do not use these boards. Having to turn on CSM should be your first clue, the bios the next.
Don't tell me what to do...
Anyone who buys a used/not from a store pc dont have much knowledge to complain about bad bios or no vrm heatsink or no brand motherboard, they just want a pc to play lol roblox cs2 or the likes and for that these boards are.just.fine.
@@maitotechlab9035 exactly
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