I don't feel like this season is going to be any good, i know they removed our power from last season but thats ok, but they removed our Quality of life stuff like pet picks up items and salvage etc. that is going to hurt the most.
They should at least make the auto pick up a follower emulated legendary power. Maybe on a pair of gloves. Gladiator gauntlets are currently useless. Update them with quality of life changes that the follower can emulate. Then add more new fun stuff to the alter in season 30. They should buff all of the starting sets for this "last season." 99% of players will start WD then switch to sade or tal rasha wiz after they do what they want with angry chicken. Give jade a boost to the two piece and six piece. They gave us the sader build we all wanted. We all really loved the auto casting jade build as well. Make the legendary belt or ring for haunt give auto haunts with locust swarm. Then make the jade two piece 4000. Make the six piece 12000. Maybe pump the damage reduction to 75%. Jade is really squishy. However, jade is a blast to play. Also Virs. Boost it back up to where it was in the season it was the top of the leader board. Bump innas back up to 1500. 900 is too low. There is tons of fun to be had. Tons of fun builds to play. They just need a little boost to be worth playing. And keep the quality of life changes from Last season outside of the alter. I would be really excited for this season. Oh and the seasonal theme is completely underwhelming. If I wanted this seasonal theme I would play POE. please do something better for the "Last season."
Yeah so QoL is a real thing and it should be taken seriously despite what random UA-cam commenters think or this season is going to feel like the game is going backwards.
I kinda wish the paragon cap was 1200. That'd be enough for 200+100 each of the secondary stat tabs, and makes paragon choices a little more interesting. Still low enough to kill paragon grind, tho.
@@acelilumelody4445 First off, I don't follow the math on that one. 50/50/50/200 per tab is 350 per tab, or 1700 Paragon total. Or do you mean it works like the standard 50-cap in Status Quo, with 801-1000 going into a single stat chosen? But then that'd be 250 in that stat, or else you'd be stopping at Paragon 950. Still, that unbalances between tabs and seems kind of awkward and like it'd take a lot more UI work for little benefit. Either way, I don't really like it. One thing which is exciting to me about Paragon this season is that choices matter more. Old-style Paragon, you just get 50 in everything, no decisions. New-style Paragon is up to 200 in a single stat, and practically speaking it'll probably be 200 exactly. I think that's more interesting, and you'll want to know what particular stat is best for your build and gear. But I like that you don't *have* to get any particular stat. No worrying about leaving AD blank with Disintegrate, or leaving the regen ones empty on a Shi-Misu. Just put your points into different stats. Getting rid of the 50 per stat is a something I'm looking forward to. To me, one stat at 200 max, one stat at 100, feels right. There's more active decision making, plus you aren't forced to take an unwanted stat. And the way you get there is 300 per tab, or 1200 per character.
@@thebitterfig9903 yeah i made a mistake 🤣 i meant 50 in one not each. Im too used to getting 50 in each stat, guess that will have to change this season
Idk man, every other sentence you said is like 'we lose this, we losing that' doesn't sound exactly appealing. I hope they add more or consider a raise in cap before they release otherwise this will be a very short season for me. I like the Visions, I like that they finally have SSF, but just too much of a power and QoL hit for me to get into, might be a pass.
Would have really liked them to re-use the Alter of Rites mechanic from s28, perhaps with some changes. Thought it was one of the best themes for a long time, bit of a shame to only use it once...
i really like the ssf and paragon caps, d3 season team is just doing so much right i really do hope they move over to D4 and help them with seasons in the future...
Underrated comment! Since Season 21, personally for me, the Diablo 3 developers made huge progress and the game is getting only better and better. At least for me. Is it better than Path of Exile? I don't think so, but the developers are doing the right job and people love it. Diablo 4 would be lucky to have the Diablo 3 team that's working on the Seasonal themes.
Thanks for the vid! I will say that even though there's not a need to make a meta build for xp farming anymore, depending on the build you really want to push there still might be a good reason to put a 150 capable build together to more easily raise legendary gems (even if only to the 140s)...or if you're really tryhard the augments past 125. I'm planning on using a Wizard to help out my SSF Uliana's Monk for instance.
I like that the paragon cap makes an even playing field but at the same time part of the fun of d3 was putting together builds and playing with friends to grind xp. Do u really think grinding out perfect gear and augments is gonna be fun? Personally i dont think so plus cap needs to be at like 1500 or so
Paragon cap is the one thing I have wanted in D3 since... Well since Paragon became uncapped. It completely devalued the leaderboards which was D3s main endgame. I do kinda wish there was a way to fix fishing to, but I don't really think that's possible.
This season for 99% of people will end within the first few days of it being live, only a 800 paragon cap which is doable in less then a day & the rest few days to smash out a 130-140+ Season gonna get boring in less then a week & back to d4 everyone goes
I kinda wish they did paragon tiered leaderboards in a way (800, 1500, 2k, 2.5k, etc). I mean, I don't mind a paragon cap too much, but 800? I'm gonna hit that day 2 ('cuz sleep 😅). Hope you love running sub-1-minute GRs, because the new 'chase' is GG gear. Maybe I'm discounting the visions, but, I'm sure that'll become apparent when it rolls out.
hm im sad about this cap .. i liked to farm some paragon after the season jounrey .. there is no point for me to play this season that much . im to bad to push with 800 para xD
@@simonevalia1505you make it sound like they had to create D4 from scratch when they already had 10 years worth of data and learning from D3 - did the entire dev team suddenly suffer from amnesia? D4 has no excuse to be this shitty right now.
@@torduc22 you make it sound like they had a lot of to build from. D3 is barren and the few CONTENT features it has are present in D4 in some shape except set dungeons. 10 years worth of data means nothing if vast majority of that time was maintenance mode.
@@Killer4fun I'll concede that I wasn't clear in my comments: I'm referring more about some of the QoL/features that devs spent 10 years refining from D3 not making it into D4. But to your point, D3 wasn't barren nor was it in maintenance mode for majority of its time, especially when they started introducing seasonal themes which I've played all of starting with double goblin in season 20. I'm not saying the seasonal themes were breathtakingly amazing, but to backtrack on some of the progress there and have me free 7 prisoners by backtracking the route I already took? that just seems hella amnesic of the devs.
I still think that you would need the strongest builds if you want the best chance at clearing the highest tier of GRs so you can get the highest spot on the leader boards. IIRC the 800 paragon cap only works if you choose solo for that season.
While I am not interested in the seasonal mechanic for Season 29. I am interested in trying out the paragon cap for being solo. Who knows I just might get on the leader boards this time around. There was only a few times when I was on the leader boards and a few times I was at the top of them during non season. Sure it didn't last very long, it happened because I was obviously the first one to login for the day and cleared the highest tier of GR that I could clear back the. I knew that hours later I would get knocked off pretty fast and that is what happened.
Can't imagine that I'll be playing this over Starfield. Is this another long season? Because I'm actually interested in trying it out, but just not sure if I'll get around to it
blizz will raise cap. look at leader boards on ptr, no one is doing 150 under 14min with less than full primal @ 1300 paragon. if they keep 800 cap, the season will be bad like the first few seasons. they have to make a theme that is equal to current altar season theme. we need 400 points per paragon tab, 200 feels too weak.
400 would be fun to max out two stats on each page. 1600 is also a decent level where grinding paragon gets to be a little bit tedious and the more casual players will have something to reach for the whole season.
If anything i wish they would have kept the Altar QOL nodes and removed the damage for balance reasons. Already hating picking up DBs and progress orbs again lmao
because it gives people a reason now to try aim for leader board because every season is the same you don't bother with it because some 4 man group are already 4k paragon in two days if that and are now pushing solo making peoples efforts pointless. Will say for a good bye season i do feel they should do 1.6k paragon and let us put 200 into two of the 4 stats
So when i tell my friends about how rpgs get played, i tell them in 3 days playing u are maxed out. Thats also the reason i play an rpg, to not get stronger for playing it.
You say there are only a few builds that will be able to reach GR150, but don't adjust the tier list to show that, instead just lump them in with a bunch of other things. It's your guys tier list, you can adjust it how you want to indicate these differences.
First if you actually go to maxroll you find various tier lists, one being the gr one. 2nd, the s29 tier list wont be lut until after patch end/s28 end
Yeah, because no one likes to use skill vs grinding paragon all day and night 🙄. Destroyed a 12 year old game in its last season (and last patch) to please us die hard fans.
I think if paragon is capped at 800 then they really need to drastically slow down the rate of paragon gain, so that it takes ~4 weeks to reach the max. If there is no levelling grind at all, then there isn't much point in playing after the first few hours.
Same boring meta... nothing new actualy in this season.. also, paragon cap is good and bad thing in same time, season will be over after 1 - 2 weeks ..
LoD dreams are trash after Diablo4. I am so sick of aspects. I am L100 still rocking sacred pentient greaves because I got those before I got ravagers. Will I ever get ancest pentients? Nope because I am done playing diablo 4 until season 2.
not sure about you guys but Im dumping all 200 into gold pickup radius
LOL! FOR REAL
Def doing this for key runs lmao and equip with boon of the hoarder, I will suck all the golds.
@@torduc22 We gon be ballin asap
Gonna be crazy for speed running with gold ring and boon. God hunters lightspeed mode 😂
@@acelilumelody4445or UE multishot, I like that a bit better myself
Honestly more hyped about this then the announced D4 season 2
Too bad it’s clear bliz doesn’t want their games to be fun so we keep paying
Why would you keep paying if you're not having fun? Move on, there are tons of other games out there more suited for you.@@Hungryj1111
I am liking the anti bot seasonal theme. People will actually have to show some skill to push the highest tier instead of endless power creep
Agreed no more time sink bots and nolifers dominating just because they have extra stats - looking forward to skill based pushes lol
rosbot has already been killed by blizz. It no longer exists.
thre are no bots in d3.. but im pretty sure chinese will make more
Console leader boards will still be dominated by +1 billion% dmg rings and other nonsense.
@@tempsim9192 yeah that’s too bad - if online only was enforceable like it is on pc, then that issue of bugged items wouldn’t be present on console
I don't feel like this season is going to be any good, i know they removed our power from last season but thats ok, but they removed our Quality of life stuff like pet picks up items and salvage etc. that is going to hurt the most.
Hey still feels like more fun then D4
They should at least make the auto pick up a follower emulated legendary power. Maybe on a pair of gloves. Gladiator gauntlets are currently useless. Update them with quality of life changes that the follower can emulate. Then add more new fun stuff to the alter in season 30. They should buff all of the starting sets for this "last season." 99% of players will start WD then switch to sade or tal rasha wiz after they do what they want with angry chicken. Give jade a boost to the two piece and six piece. They gave us the sader build we all wanted. We all really loved the auto casting jade build as well. Make the legendary belt or ring for haunt give auto haunts with locust swarm. Then make the jade two piece 4000. Make the six piece 12000. Maybe pump the damage reduction to 75%. Jade is really squishy. However, jade is a blast to play. Also Virs. Boost it back up to where it was in the season it was the top of the leader board. Bump innas back up to 1500. 900 is too low. There is tons of fun to be had. Tons of fun builds to play. They just need a little boost to be worth playing. And keep the quality of life changes from Last season outside of the alter. I would be really excited for this season. Oh and the seasonal theme is completely underwhelming. If I wanted this seasonal theme I would play POE. please do something better for the "Last season."
yeah takes much skill to click stuff to pick it up... noobs cant do it!@@SavantAudiosurf
Yeah so QoL is a real thing and it should be taken seriously despite what random UA-cam commenters think or this season is going to feel like the game is going backwards.
Oh the irony of someone trying to make fun of someone else whilst only managing to demean themselves.
I wish the paragon cap was a bit higher
Me too
They've basically killed endgame d3 with the 800 ceiling. Why even play after 800 and 150 clear?
I kinda wish the paragon cap was 1200. That'd be enough for 200+100 each of the secondary stat tabs, and makes paragon choices a little more interesting. Still low enough to kill paragon grind, tho.
1,000 would be better, 50 in each then 200 in a chosen stat
@@acelilumelody4445 First off, I don't follow the math on that one. 50/50/50/200 per tab is 350 per tab, or 1700 Paragon total. Or do you mean it works like the standard 50-cap in Status Quo, with 801-1000 going into a single stat chosen? But then that'd be 250 in that stat, or else you'd be stopping at Paragon 950. Still, that unbalances between tabs and seems kind of awkward and like it'd take a lot more UI work for little benefit.
Either way, I don't really like it. One thing which is exciting to me about Paragon this season is that choices matter more. Old-style Paragon, you just get 50 in everything, no decisions. New-style Paragon is up to 200 in a single stat, and practically speaking it'll probably be 200 exactly. I think that's more interesting, and you'll want to know what particular stat is best for your build and gear. But I like that you don't *have* to get any particular stat. No worrying about leaving AD blank with Disintegrate, or leaving the regen ones empty on a Shi-Misu. Just put your points into different stats. Getting rid of the 50 per stat is a something I'm looking forward to.
To me, one stat at 200 max, one stat at 100, feels right. There's more active decision making, plus you aren't forced to take an unwanted stat. And the way you get there is 300 per tab, or 1200 per character.
@@thebitterfig9903 yeah i made a mistake 🤣 i meant 50 in one not each. Im too used to getting 50 in each stat, guess that will have to change this season
Please please keep doing Diablo 3 content Wudy ❤
I have played 26 seasons. My total paragon across those seasons is 3200. But I think Paragon 800 is too low. Should be 1000-1200 imo.
Idk man, every other sentence you said is like 'we lose this, we losing that' doesn't sound exactly appealing.
I hope they add more or consider a raise in cap before they release otherwise this will be a very short season for me. I like the Visions, I like that they finally have SSF, but just too much of a power and QoL hit for me to get into, might be a pass.
Would have really liked them to re-use the Alter of Rites mechanic from s28, perhaps with some changes. Thought it was one of the best themes for a long time, bit of a shame to only use it once...
It will be permanent after the upcoming season.
i really like the ssf and paragon caps, d3 season team is just doing so much right i really do hope they move over to D4 and help them with seasons in the future...
Underrated comment!
Since Season 21, personally for me, the Diablo 3 developers made huge progress and the game is getting only better and better. At least for me.
Is it better than Path of Exile? I don't think so, but the developers are doing the right job and people love it. Diablo 4 would be lucky to have the Diablo 3 team that's working on the Seasonal themes.
Thanks for the vid! I will say that even though there's not a need to make a meta build for xp farming anymore, depending on the build you really want to push there still might be a good reason to put a 150 capable build together to more easily raise legendary gems (even if only to the 140s)...or if you're really tryhard the augments past 125. I'm planning on using a Wizard to help out my SSF Uliana's Monk for instance.
Im dreaming about uliana or TR Hope i could do 140
I don't mind the paragon cap, but I do wish it were a bit higher like 1600 or so. A bonus, certainly, but none of the 5k+ nonsense.
How to make your gem and aug updates (150) in SSF without playing the strongest builds first?
Just be back to D3 for a short rift after d4, and man just camera zoom feels so, so good.
I like that the paragon cap makes an even playing field but at the same time part of the fun of d3 was putting together builds and playing with friends to grind xp. Do u really think grinding out perfect gear and augments is gonna be fun? Personally i dont think so plus cap needs to be at like 1500 or so
Looking forward to play SSF DH this season... Much better than the D4 right now :(
Paragon cap is the one thing I have wanted in D3 since... Well since Paragon became uncapped. It completely devalued the leaderboards which was D3s main endgame.
I do kinda wish there was a way to fix fishing to, but I don't really think that's possible.
Hmmm…witch doctor might be my go to this season. Chicken buffs look fun
Instead of 800 paragon cap it should be somewhere 1.5-2k, but anyway im excited.
This season for 99% of people will end within the first few days of it being live, only a 800 paragon cap which is doable in less then a day & the rest few days to smash out a 130-140+
Season gonna get boring in less then a week & back to d4 everyone goes
90s gear farm will be the real meta 😂
Ups... Typed it right a second before you said it 😅
I kinda wish they did paragon tiered leaderboards in a way (800, 1500, 2k, 2.5k, etc). I mean, I don't mind a paragon cap too much, but 800? I'm gonna hit that day 2 ('cuz sleep 😅). Hope you love running sub-1-minute GRs, because the new 'chase' is GG gear. Maybe I'm discounting the visions, but, I'm sure that'll become apparent when it rolls out.
Only thing apparent is I'm bored already ...800 paragon first day or so...then mindless grind loot...shit will be dead In 10 days...
Bored with D4 and POE. Can't wait for this season. Finally a SSF leaderboard!
i can see this season being a major fishing fest
200 points in CDR, can I make the God Monk a thing again? Infinite dashes, it was so quick!
When you say the altar will not be there until S30 do you mean it will return or will become permanent when the "last" season comes out? :O
can u tell me why altar of rites is a good thing, when cutting out the whole end game is good?
Why were those PTR wizes on the leaderboard above paragon 800? What's the current level cap?
you can still get above para 800 you just don't gain anything from it
hm im sad about this cap .. i liked to farm some paragon after the season jounrey .. there is no point for me to play this season that much . im to bad to push with 800 para xD
Looking forward to this, I’ll probably put in a week or two.
as a casual who has only ever pushed to around 1k paragon per season, im really excited for this
Still more enjoyable than D4.
Yeah after 10 years of patches against a 3 month game its quite true
😂😂😂
@@simonevalia1505you make it sound like they had to create D4 from scratch when they already had 10 years worth of data and learning from D3 - did the entire dev team suddenly suffer from amnesia? D4 has no excuse to be this shitty right now.
@@torduc22 you make it sound like they had a lot of to build from. D3 is barren and the few CONTENT features it has are present in D4 in some shape except set dungeons. 10 years worth of data means nothing if vast majority of that time was maintenance mode.
@@Killer4fun I'll concede that I wasn't clear in my comments: I'm referring more about some of the QoL/features that devs spent 10 years refining from D3 not making it into D4.
But to your point, D3 wasn't barren nor was it in maintenance mode for majority of its time, especially when they started introducing seasonal themes which I've played all of starting with double goblin in season 20. I'm not saying the seasonal themes were breathtakingly amazing, but to backtrack on some of the progress there and have me free 7 prisoners by backtracking the route I already took? that just seems hella amnesic of the devs.
I had a blast last season playing Frenzy barb
Cutting out the whole end game: best season so far!
Wait, we don’t get to keep the altar for season 29?
no, but it's coming back in s30
I still think that you would need the strongest builds if you want the best chance at clearing the highest tier of GRs so you can get the highest spot on the leader boards. IIRC the 800 paragon cap only works if you choose solo for that season.
Looks fun. Can play one weekend. Get on the LBs. I still play D4 a lot and D3 is no longer a time sink. Gj blizz
Invokers with all points into attack speed???? Could be fun haha
While I am not interested in the seasonal mechanic for Season 29. I am interested in trying out the paragon cap for being solo. Who knows I just might get on the leader boards this time around. There was only a few times when I was on the leader boards and a few times I was at the top of them during non season. Sure it didn't last very long, it happened because I was obviously the first one to login for the day and cleared the highest tier of GR that I could clear back the. I knew that hours later I would get knocked off pretty fast and that is what happened.
there goes the chances of the paragon cap increased
Tyraels Might and Mirror vs 3 days season?
I can’t wait to see what broken builds you can create next! Keep up the good work Wudijo!
Can't imagine that I'll be playing this over Starfield. Is this another long season? Because I'm actually interested in trying it out, but just not sure if I'll get around to it
I expect seasons are going to release much faster than the last few years now that D3 development is about to end
@@wudijo okay, that makes sense, thanks
blizz will raise cap. look at leader boards on ptr, no one is doing 150 under 14min with less than full primal @ 1300 paragon. if they keep 800 cap, the season will be bad like the first few seasons. they have to make a theme that is equal to current altar season theme. we need 400 points per paragon tab, 200 feels too weak.
I doubt it - I don't think Blizz ever meant for people to reach GR150 to begin with.
400 would be fun to max out two stats on each page. 1600 is also a decent level where grinding paragon gets to be a little bit tedious and the more casual players will have something to reach for the whole season.
Cope
200 points isn't the problem, the problem is the 800 cap. That cap would have been great in like 2015, it's absurd now.
I hope Heavans Fury will be able to do 150, i like that spec.
I'll play a fast build for gr100 farm, and another build for gem ups, solo.
Have not decided what builds what build to play yet though..
where is angry chicken build?
mannnn was pumped for new season of d3...... then there power cap and option to play alone cool season bro... after season 28 😂😂😂
I thought the Altar was permanent or am I bugging?
they're removing it in s29 and bringing it as a permanent addition in s30
either way, i'm making a crusader or WD for the final season. Going back to where i started it
Ahh good old D3 videos. Tired of D4🗑️
When i see ppl making a play time cap of 3 days in a rpg, i understand more about the Arttificial Intelligence topic.
i like the paragon cap, but some builds could use some love for solo. I miss the old AoV Crusader when it released.
If anything i wish they would have kept the Altar QOL nodes and removed the damage for balance reasons. Already hating picking up DBs and progress orbs again lmao
Why didnt they make a play time cap 12 years ago? best idea i saw for a rpg so far.
3 days is ok, maybe 4 or 5 would be better.
"for the first time there is not unlimited power" 😂 love this game
unlimited?? power difference beetwen average casual 2k paragon player and 6k paragon player is about 3 tier if have the same gear..
I don't see how you can be happy with the paragon cap. People are gonna leave the season even faster than usual 😞
because it gives people a reason now to try aim for leader board because every season is the same you don't bother with it because some 4 man group are already 4k paragon in two days if that and are now pushing solo making peoples efforts pointless. Will say for a good bye season i do feel they should do 1.6k paragon and let us put 200 into two of the 4 stats
I’m pretty bummed they waited for the end of the game to bring SSF
And ya its the best season so far. Imagine D4 season takes 3 days to complete.
Two days for me, it’s all I got left for D3
Season 29. The season of non season play.
So when i tell my friends about how rpgs get played, i tell them in 3 days playing u are maxed out.
Thats also the reason i play an rpg, to not get stronger for playing it.
You say there are only a few builds that will be able to reach GR150, but don't adjust the tier list to show that, instead just lump them in with a bunch of other things. It's your guys tier list, you can adjust it how you want to indicate these differences.
First if you actually go to maxroll you find various tier lists, one being the gr one. 2nd, the s29 tier list wont be lut until after patch end/s28 end
@@aion5386? He shows the s29 tier list in this video
@@krectus thats the s28 tier list. New tier list arent fully made yet and wont be released for weeks
@@aion5386 no he shows both the s28 list and the new one here. It may not be final as Blizz may still make some changes, sure.
@@krectus ive watched it 3 times and I only see s28 one. Where exactly is the s29 showed?
Was gonna mess about with ssf d3 s29.. then I tried poe ruthless mode ssf for first time.. I'm in love with the mode.
"the altar is gone until season 30" the altar is coming back?
yes
that's awesome, how do we know this?@@wudijo
because blizzard said so
they did? that's great.@@SinisterCryos
When i think of a rpg, i think of getting stronger for playing much, no?
Thanks
Wudi keeps repeating "without the altar" but a blue confirmed on the official forums that the altar will be in S29.
Because its well known altar is gone until season 30. Where did you see otherwise?
@@aion5386 Ha, I missed the "starting at season 30" part. 😑
"Friends" :)))))
10hours farming GR god damn that is enough to give me ptsd
Didn't know D3 servers are still operating.
Rly nobody cares about 150 gr with crap 800 paragon cap lol. Destroyed d3 in 1 patch
Yeah, because no one likes to use skill vs grinding paragon all day and night 🙄. Destroyed a 12 year old game in its last season (and last patch) to please us die hard fans.
I think if paragon is capped at 800 then they really need to drastically slow down the rate of paragon gain, so that it takes ~4 weeks to reach the max. If there is no levelling grind at all, then there isn't much point in playing after the first few hours.
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IMO this season just looks lazy and boring. No point to it. It's a hard pass from me personally.
Same, they killed this season
and his back ! f d4 !
Same boring meta... nothing new actualy in this season.. also, paragon cap is good and bad thing in same time, season will be over after 1 - 2 weeks ..
So the game will get boring after 2 days into the season ..cool
The patch we needed several years ago. Now it's too late
Why too late lol
@@markxv2267 most of the players stopped playing the game by now
Yeah it's 5 years too late 😢
Servers gonna crash with 200% area dmg
Does it depend on the number of AD? As far as I know even 1% creates the same lags in group.
LoD dreams are trash after Diablo4. I am so sick of aspects. I am L100 still rocking sacred pentient greaves because I got those before I got ravagers. Will I ever get ancest pentients? Nope because I am done playing diablo 4 until season 2.
first
bro diablo 3 is dead.
let's let it rest in peace 🙏
You misspelled D4.
This is the laziest video u have ever made... So u opened PTR boards and just saw who has i reached 150... And that's it...
Try watching the full video.
Does anyone else wish the last season of D3 with the paragon cap there was a way to opt out of it?