Great job with the concrete pad, it looks pretty nice. However, I have a couple complaints... after all that work with getting the concrete just right, you could have also run some cable tray all the way back to the controller to protect the wiring completely. The stuff isn't that expensive, but robot cables are. Also: I'm pretty sure that the access to the PC in the robot controller should be on the OUTSIDE of the enclosure. Hopefully you only run it in Teach mode when people are sitting with their back to the robot, as that's horribly unsafe. I work in industrial automation with Kuka robots. This cell would NOT pass a safety review. Do you have any other emergency stop provisions than just the pendant and controller e-stop buttons?
I'm sorry, but the correct way to do this is to make rebar cage where the bolts that holds the robots are tied in to the cage. Not just a small matt thrown randomly into the top layer, and then 8 bolts put in the top layer. You want the forces to be transferred into the whole concrete block...
It always cracks me up how these cutting edge robotic arms all use parallel or serial connections to the computer instead of a faster more modern bus like USB. Must have something to do with stability over performance.
My thoughts exactly. I don't really think the volume of data transmitted is large enough to merit moving to something like USB. I've used several smaller CNC machines and 3D printers which have all had stability issues with USB.
parallel is better supported i guess windows mac Linux or your moms toaster its just parallel even a arduino could bit bang the data it wants also jusging by how some things use the parallel port its a simpler protocol and design than having to factor in a usb controller circuit
Your comment was not exactly helpful. If they could pump it then I'm sure they would have. They obviously did/could not due to either access or cost implications (Pumps are expensive to rent and large)
If you re-read my original comment you will notice that it is a question. Now I'm not claiming to be a genius or clever for that reason i was genuinely interested as to why a pump wasn't used. Maybe too expensive. Maybe Access issues like you suggested. Because the content creators made a big issue of doing it all by hand i was hoping that they might reply and say why that was.
Why didn't you locate the mounts prior to pouring cement making an extremely heavy duty mount and couldn't the cement have been piped in rather than all the man power ?
16 minutes in and the concrete promotion is over, finally we are initialising What is going to be moved around here? Jeff is some strong beast! What was needed, IMHO, was a foundation pillar, not a surface - that was hardly a shoddy floor they dug up!
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Your rebar looks like it's installed pretty close to the middle of the slab thickness, which is along the neutral axis of bending moment. This does not offer the greatest amount of strength. Reinforcement should be placed as close to the faces as possible while still maintaining adequate cover (protection) by the concrete.
Yeah that hurt my eyes too. I was gonna say a lot of concrete companies have a pump truck. Just run the hose into the hole, then stand around and watch it fill. Very cool video!
Justin Borja i thought the slab is just for weight, why could they not pour it on the existing floor and cut around it? or at least throw the old concrete in the new to fill out?
steffankaizer They had to increase the slab thickness to allow for the additional load, its poor practice to place concrete on top of existing concrete as it does not bond with the existing therefore defeating the purpose of placing more concrete, placing old concrete pieces in with new concrete created pockets of un-bonded concrete which would also lower its structural properties.
TheFabricator03 You need to try to move concrete all day by hands. Job was donated or not, we are living in 2014, and to see guys struggle by doing manual labour felt crazy. Bob cat can move this amount 10 times faster.
The whole purpose of this robot is to do repetitive tasks on an assembly line for an indefinite amount of time. Yes, there is wear and tear on the robot, but nothing it wasn't designed for.
Nice video on how to set up a robot. But... mastering a KUKA robot by eye is not very accurate. You should use an EMT to master the robot to get the most accurate data. Otherwise you would not be able to remaster it spot on. Project Jeff will thank you for that ;)
that's it? it is just for code experimentation? you can do that with a desktop toy. Sorry but I thought it is for use in the garage like take car parts out and maneuver them to make it easy to work on them.
We do it this way because first and foremost, it's what was donated to us, so we use what we have. Our membership prices are $20 a month, so in many cases a person could be spending less to come learn with our arm, and walk away with knowledge of KUKA's programming language, which can be useful if they're on a career track in robotics. Plus, some people just wanna play with the big robots. :)
That's gotta be one of the dumbest ways I've seen to do a concrete slab. You guys in the USA need to come to Australia to learn some better ways to use concrete.
+Dominic Vrolijks That was mostly their sub contractor (where is the rebar??), I noticed that also, what about leaving a ditch in the concrete (planning?) instead of the funky yellow cable guard?!
Mental! If this is an educational project then save your budget and buy endless $100 30cm 7-axis robots from China rather than install a single machine capable of shifting 100 tonnes and dig a hole to refill with 60 tons of concrete! You torque it down every day? What is your theoretical positioning precision here?
No starter bars drilled into old slab every 400mm and tied to mesh. Expansion form used for an internal slab, ridiculous. The most prophetic concreting standards I'd ever seen, the existing concrete would have been far superior for the footprint of a 350
This was great to watch , I had no idea what a mission it is to install a beast KUKA. Cheers
The awesomeness of this video alone is worth every penny of another 10$ donation! Keep being awesome!
Great job with the concrete pad, it looks pretty nice. However, I have a couple complaints... after all that work with getting the concrete just right, you could have also run some cable tray all the way back to the controller to protect the wiring completely. The stuff isn't that expensive, but robot cables are.
Also: I'm pretty sure that the access to the PC in the robot controller should be on the OUTSIDE of the enclosure. Hopefully you only run it in Teach mode when people are sitting with their back to the robot, as that's horribly unsafe.
I work in industrial automation with Kuka robots. This cell would NOT pass a safety review.
Do you have any other emergency stop provisions than just the pendant and controller e-stop buttons?
I'm sorry, but the correct way to do this is to make rebar cage where the bolts that holds the robots are tied in to the cage. Not just a small matt thrown randomly into the top layer, and then 8 bolts put in the top layer. You want the forces to be transferred into the whole concrete block...
Those blocks would make a great foot path in my back yard
Just one word.. "You guys are AWSOME "
RIP Jeff... Long Live Project Justin & Andrew!
It always cracks me up how these cutting edge robotic arms all use parallel or serial connections to the computer instead of a faster more modern bus like USB. Must have something to do with stability over performance.
My thoughts exactly. I don't really think the volume of data transmitted is large enough to merit moving to something like USB. I've used several smaller CNC machines and 3D printers which have all had stability issues with USB.
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hahah what look what you wrote parrallel vs usb cmon lol think about it >_
When that robot was produced in the early 90s USB had not been invented yet.
parallel is better supported i guess windows mac Linux or your moms toaster its just parallel even a arduino could bit bang the data it wants
also jusging by how some things use the parallel port its a simpler protocol and design than having to factor in a usb controller circuit
really good to see a professional instal like this. Great to see all those safety considerations, and an awesome build indeed.
Amazing machine kuka.
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Can you give a detail or other video/s on how to ; program it, electrical connections, all electrical repairing and trouble shooting I really want.
why not use a pump to pump the concrete into the hole?
Might be access problems, Genius.
arbit3r not a very helpful comment was it. your parent's must be so proud of you
Your comment was not exactly helpful. If they could pump it then I'm sure they would have. They obviously did/could not due to either access or cost implications (Pumps are expensive to rent and large)
If you re-read my original comment you will notice that it is a question. Now I'm not claiming to be a genius or clever for that reason i was genuinely interested as to why a pump wasn't used.
Maybe too expensive. Maybe Access issues like you suggested.
Because the content creators made a big issue of doing it all by hand i was hoping that they might reply and say why that was.
Why didn't you locate the mounts prior to pouring cement making an extremely heavy duty mount and couldn't the cement have been piped in rather than all the man power ?
16 minutes in and the concrete promotion is over, finally we are initialising
What is going to be moved around here? Jeff is some strong beast! What was needed, IMHO, was a foundation pillar, not a surface - that was hardly a shoddy floor they dug up!
Simon Masters did you see them put that rebar in, they just threw it in, and it is only covering the center of the pad,
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Your rebar looks like it's installed pretty close to the middle of the slab thickness, which is along the neutral axis of bending moment. This does not offer the greatest amount of strength. Reinforcement should be placed as close to the faces as possible while still maintaining adequate cover (protection) by the concrete.
+SolarMillUSA It looks like it's closer to 1/3rd or even a 1/4 down into the slab around 8:36 is a good idea of just how deep the area is.
Nice Project.
good morning, nice job just curious if peers and bell footer would have worked? have fun and thanks
Great job! What's the maximum weight for a tool Jeff could handle?
Really cool stuff!
"It is a delicate, precision operation to lower the base-plate into place." *SLEDGE HAMMER*, 2X4, *STOMP STOMP*
Thinking about buying a used robot. But are scared about it no longer being accurat. But what to exspect from a robot from 2015?
If you're looking for good quality used robots, we can introduce you to the right people. Send me a message if you like.
Does the KRC1 use the same KRL as the KRC2? I'm looking at the KRC1 to teach people on but I'm only familiar with KRC2 and 4 controllers.
you probably could have sold the blocks to some landscaper to use for pavers.
they would also own a piece of awesomeness as well.
postage for mailing them would be nuclear.
Shouldn't the bolts for the robot be attached to the steel reinforcement?
You want to have bobcat for concrete pouring, was sad to see manual work.
Yeah that hurt my eyes too. I was gonna say a lot of concrete companies have a pump truck. Just run the hose into the hole, then stand around and watch it fill.
Very cool video!
Justin Borja
i thought the slab is just for weight, why could they not pour it on the existing floor and cut around it? or at least throw the old concrete in the new to fill out?
steffankaizer They had to increase the slab thickness to allow for the additional load, its poor practice to place concrete on top of existing concrete as it does not bond with the existing therefore defeating the purpose of placing more concrete, placing old concrete pieces in with new concrete created pockets of un-bonded concrete which would also lower its structural properties.
In the video they said the work was donates, if I was donating my guys labor I would not also want to pay for pump hire.
TheFabricator03 You need to try to move concrete all day by hands. Job was donated or not, we are living in 2014, and to see guys struggle by doing manual labour felt crazy. Bob cat can move this amount 10 times faster.
wow.
Sweet deal! But what was up with the guy using the dewalt cut of grinder without a guard? You're smarter than that!!!
cool but that has to be the hardest way to remove the concrete after cutting and hardest way to dig the hole
"couple days; stress test" - if it does not weaken or worn out a robot?
The whole purpose of this robot is to do repetitive tasks on an assembly line for an indefinite amount of time. Yes, there is wear and tear on the robot, but nothing it wasn't designed for.
Seems logic.. thank You for answer
As a german Guy its really hard for me to understand the German in the beginning :S
da stimm ich dir zu ^^
Entschuldigung.
Lis Bokt intro was in a dialect. translated by google translate
Intro war in einem Dialekt. von Google Translate übersetzt
Oh, das sollte Deutsch sein?
ja sollte es ^^
Nice video on how to set up a robot. But... mastering a KUKA robot by eye is not very accurate. You should use an EMT to master the robot to get the most accurate data. Otherwise you would not be able to remaster it spot on. Project Jeff will thank you for that ;)
jeffs the nerd robot picked on by other bots 😁
wow, what a job, such a pity you eventually do a "equipment autopsy" on Jeff and waste all this work :-((
The Guy in the hole should of had gum boots on he may not be afraid of hard work but he is very Lucy he did not get concert burns, not very smart !!
I agree. Having your legs covered in concrete all day would burnnnn
Install a racing seat on the robot and fly a bit in it.
Whats that robot arm even used for?
People are able to come in and actually play around with its code and learn how to make it do things at their preferred pace.
that's it? it is just for code experimentation? you can do that with a desktop toy. Sorry but I thought it is for use in the garage like take car parts out and maneuver them to make it easy to work on them.
We do it this way because first and foremost, it's what was donated to us, so we use what we have. Our membership prices are $20 a month, so in many cases a person could be spending less to come learn with our arm, and walk away with knowledge of KUKA's programming language, which can be useful if they're on a career track in robotics. Plus, some people just wanna play with the big robots. :)
For me It just didnt make sense to use such a huge robot for teaching programming but I understand now. Thanks for the reply. :)
Wow
That's gotta be one of the dumbest ways I've seen to do a concrete slab. You guys in the USA need to come to Australia to learn some better ways to use concrete.
+Dominic Vrolijks That was mostly their sub contractor (where is the rebar??), I noticed that also, what about leaving a ditch in the concrete (planning?) instead of the funky yellow cable guard?!
it would be better for you you watch concrete pouring videos in youtube by Americans then come here and comment.
You think Australia could show America how to build.lmfao. I've seen your homes, some of the dumbest, unsafe building practices on earth
the piece of metal base should be 4 times bigger
Mental! If this is an educational project then save your budget and buy endless $100 30cm 7-axis robots from China rather than install a single machine capable of shifting 100 tonnes and dig a hole to refill with 60 tons of concrete! You torque it down every day? What is your theoretical positioning precision here?
he could've used rubber boots as well.
Damn windows 95???
Windows 95
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....i forgot moose speaks german
now you remember.
yes but then i'll forget again
***** I never knew
No starter bars drilled into old slab every 400mm and tied to mesh. Expansion form used for an internal slab, ridiculous. The most prophetic concreting standards I'd ever seen, the existing concrete would have been far superior for the footprint of a 350