STORMY SCALES - Bach Invention no. 4 in D minor - Analysis

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  • @tomarmstrong1281
    @tomarmstrong1281 2 роки тому +9

    I am so jealous of this man's knowledge, talent, skill. Plus a piano with a wonderful tone.

  • @kristian6566
    @kristian6566 4 роки тому +26

    I see we have both a piano and chess lover here at work ;-) Great video!

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 роки тому +9

      You're the first to catch it ;)

    • @okandikkulak8057
      @okandikkulak8057 3 роки тому +1

      give me the timestamps!

    • @rushunnhfernandes
      @rushunnhfernandes 3 роки тому +4

      @@okandikkulak8057 At 9:55 the way he puts that,.." For those of you... And for those who just want to enjoy the show.... " , This is Agadmator's (a popular chess channel) catchphrase..

    • @okandikkulak8057
      @okandikkulak8057 3 роки тому +1

      @@rushunnhfernandes glad !

    • @viggojonsell9754
      @viggojonsell9754 3 роки тому

      Damn thats impressive he didnt really phrase it that way and his accent for sure isnt similar so yeah I wouldve just thought that he said that as a coincidence noises*

  • @hshlom
    @hshlom 11 місяців тому +1

    I just love how you analyze music by chords and II-V-Is patterns, which is what I usually do. If you know what the chord is, you know what notes to expect, and you can often know what chord will be coming next. This also helps with memorizing a song.
    Subscribed!

  • @poplife123
    @poplife123 4 роки тому +7

    Wow nice timing ....I'm teaching this to a student ....really helps

  • @Mbudd391
    @Mbudd391 3 роки тому +3

    I’m about to begin this piece. Thank you for an excellent explanation- I’m always in awe of Bach’s composition. Your analogy of puzzle pieces which need their endings adjusted was so helpful!

  • @reza7105
    @reza7105 4 роки тому +9

    I'm learning this piece now, thanks for making this video! :)

  • @k.l.spencer5635
    @k.l.spencer5635 3 роки тому +9

    Glenn Gould played a plain old note instead of a trill in his recording. Different, but that's what made Glenn so... trilling: he gave us some wacky tempi and occasionally looked at the score and said, "nah." Wish more pianists were brave. Mozart left a lot of empty spaces in his scores so the performer could add his own notes.

  • @pedrod.7576
    @pedrod.7576 Рік тому +1

    9:50 I think that's an agadmator reference and I love it

  • @raphaelneves7666
    @raphaelneves7666 4 роки тому +5

    This channel is great! Thanks for the class

  • @Amanda-vf4nv
    @Amanda-vf4nv 2 місяці тому

    It's great that you mentioned the Hemiola and it was a really good explanation. I always forget the name of it. Thank you!

  • @moirbasso7051
    @moirbasso7051 4 роки тому +2

    This was very helpful for my Music class- both to hear it, and to see it, as well. Thanks,

  • @finaxx1261
    @finaxx1261 4 роки тому +2

    you made me understand bach, respect

  • @jimbrady3538
    @jimbrady3538 4 роки тому +6

    Wonderful analysis and performance. I've always struggled with Bach 'phrasing' and the tendency to play with 'machine gun' accuracy versus different voicing. For example in this invention a legato counter subject? I think that is the beauty Bach; such complex simplicity- so much to explore or just play outright.

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 роки тому +6

      Thank you! Yes, there's room for different interpretations of articulation. Here I choose staccato 8th notes in the countersubjects to contrast with legato in the subject, but I have also heard legato 8th notes.
      Generally I suppose it takes some more experience with the music to feel and phrase the melodicness of it, even without the normal markings of ties and dynamics (or alternatively with an editor's markings and not Bach's) that we have from other composers.

  • @maxineparker3372
    @maxineparker3372 2 роки тому +1

    I like your speed with this Invention!

  • @altushendriks2541
    @altushendriks2541 4 роки тому +2

    That is an awesome background and equally wonderful analysis!!

  • @elisamartini1694
    @elisamartini1694 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for explaining Inventio N°4. I must say I am learning this piece of music from JS Bach. It is not easy. There are many things to remember. I am not accustomed to the word analysis. But it does help.

  • @Baroquepassion
    @Baroquepassion 3 роки тому +1

    really enjoyed this video, it's so interesting to see the details of how the piece is built up. I'm new to the piano, only been playing for a short time but I have started to try and learn this piece. I wonder if I will ever be able to play it full speed? In any case, I am enjoying trying to tackle my first Bach piece.

  • @lukemadams
    @lukemadams 3 роки тому +2

    Your videos are incredibly valuable. I just opened my book of Inventions, thought I should give this one a go to give my trill fingers a workout, and lo and behold you have a twelve-minute video on it. Thank you

  • @nightingalesingon
    @nightingalesingon 3 роки тому +3

    Great analysis and performance! You got a new subscriber. :)

  • @renarspiano3259
    @renarspiano3259 3 роки тому

    Working on this piece now. Thank You!!!

  • @GeodesicBruh
    @GeodesicBruh 3 роки тому +3

    9:44 and on nice agadmator reference lol

  • @bryanreyescomposer
    @bryanreyescomposer 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks a lot for all of your videos. Awesome and very well done. I wonder where you studied and if you have any compositions?

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  3 роки тому +6

      Thank you! I have studied at Gothenburg Academy of music and drama in Sweden, and one year at Newcastle university in UK. Haven't composed anything in my adult life, but maybe I will try it some day.

  • @robertobarcelo9189
    @robertobarcelo9189 3 роки тому +5

    Muy buena explicación estaría bueno subtitularlo al español

  • @bernhardtmitdt2586
    @bernhardtmitdt2586 3 роки тому

    thank you for playing slow and musically. Who knows which tempo was Bachs intention ;-)

  • @AnaPaula-np5rq
    @AnaPaula-np5rq 4 роки тому

    Excellent video and great explanation as always. If I continue like this I will learn English fluently in addition to knowledge in music of course. 🤔👏

  • @chrosxnfhdjsncjfb
    @chrosxnfhdjsncjfb 5 місяців тому

    Love the Agadmator reference

  • @margarethansen7480
    @margarethansen7480 Рік тому

    Super nice, thanks for that👏👏👏

  • @jakegearhart
    @jakegearhart 3 роки тому +1

    9:50 Agadmator reference?

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  3 роки тому +1

      I can neither confirm nor deny that.

  • @eqon1234
    @eqon1234 2 роки тому

    I'm just starting to learn the inventions, so this is great! ( But this whole channel is great, so it's no surprise!)
    What would you say are the easiest ones to start off with?

  • @VinsonMusic
    @VinsonMusic 4 роки тому +1

    I think your performance tempo is exactly right.

  • @i.adepapitas2180
    @i.adepapitas2180 4 роки тому +1

    Nice video 👍

  • @foaadfallah2143
    @foaadfallah2143 Рік тому

    Very good thanks

  • @begovicvic89
    @begovicvic89 3 роки тому

    Hi there!! Thank you for the wonderful explanation 😍👏👏👏 i wanted to ask if the trills function as a pedal note? And since the piece isn't played on an organ you'd have to sustain the dominant note with trills..

  • @olavmagnushansen1515
    @olavmagnushansen1515 4 роки тому +1

    would love to see an analysis of Bach’s 8th invention.

  • @keremkeskiner7727
    @keremkeskiner7727 3 роки тому

    Thank you!

  • @caterscarrots3407
    @caterscarrots3407 4 роки тому +1

    That new material you highlight in green, isn't that a diminution of the countersubject? It's twice as fast, but it seems to have the same direction as the countersubject, ascending.

    • @Lucacarrara3173
      @Lucacarrara3173 4 роки тому +2

      (I think) he highlighted it in green because that's a "free" counterpoint over the subject or counter subject, but since it's Bach it has all the logic and it's going to be very similar to the context of the piece, both rythmically and directionally, and can be understand like you said

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 роки тому +2

      Pablo explains it even better than I could have done!
      Regarding the countersubject in this piece I think the contour of small intervals is an important feature of it, so I would say the green material is more like a derivation from the main subject.

  • @Schubertian32
    @Schubertian32 Рік тому

    Such wonderful playing! How in the world did you get the left hand trill so rapid? Are you playing 32nd notes for each 16th note? Thank you so much for this insightful video.

  • @amirso007
    @amirso007 4 роки тому

    Amazing! Can you please do the A minor invention?

  • @davidkelly1220
    @davidkelly1220 Рік тому

    Thanks

  • @paolopellegrino9915
    @paolopellegrino9915 Рік тому

    when it goes in F and there's the trill i spent a whole evening to learn those two bars then i was unable to play for a month due to work and now i have to relearn it from the scratch

  • @renzocheesman6844
    @renzocheesman6844 2 роки тому

    you saved my life

  • @carlosdublanc
    @carlosdublanc 2 роки тому

    EXCELENTE

  • @octahedron115
    @octahedron115 3 роки тому

    Where's the analysis for no. 3

  • @yams900
    @yams900 Рік тому

    Instressant !

  • @围棋-b1v
    @围棋-b1v 3 місяці тому

    How many times am I watching this, 7?

  • @fayechen7383
    @fayechen7383 Рік тому

    What does hamiyola mean? Am I even spelling it correctly?!?!🤔

    • @aminnkellsein
      @aminnkellsein Рік тому

      Hemiola. It’s when something in 4/4 (duple time) sounds like it’s in 3/4 (triple time) or vice versa.

  • @kenswireart88
    @kenswireart88 3 роки тому

    did bach think about all these technicalities or did he just write a sweet tune and we try to figure it out. flat earth globe earth