Must Know Before Joining Guild - Throne and Liberty

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  • @bertay-bm7kn
    @bertay-bm7kn 3 місяці тому +22

    Whelps, I've been watching your streams on twitch and now your vids on YT. Straight forward, effective, informative content. Thanks mate

  • @msonix
    @msonix 3 місяці тому +3

    Really good video, Whelps! There's a lack of guild-management content out there and this already shed some light on some of my questions.
    I would have loved it to be a bit more in-depth regarding other guild management features, but it already delivers good info as it stands.
    Looking forward to the next one!

  • @PolPot-s3o
    @PolPot-s3o 3 місяці тому +3

    Thanks for explaining this. NCSoft has put forth almost NO effort explaining the guild management system and a guilds level based rewards

  • @devonmoreau
    @devonmoreau 3 місяці тому +2

    Appreciate the video! Your English is excellent as well :)

  • @jasonlowe2672
    @jasonlowe2672 3 місяці тому +6

    We decided on having loot go directly to the guild member themselves EXCEPT during sanctioned/scheduled Guild events (raids, boonstone/riftstone, seige). During these events we will switch the loot system on the fly so loot goes to the guild and we will reward DKP for participating during these sanctioned events. Players will bid following the event.

    • @rb9882
      @rb9882 3 місяці тому

      What is dkp. I’m a guild leader learning

    • @jasonlowe2672
      @jasonlowe2672 3 місяці тому

      @@rb9882 its an old term used in different MMOs that stands for Dragon Kill Points. Basically you award points for participation and attendance to your guild and they use those points to bid on gear

  • @Muphet
    @Muphet 3 місяці тому +22

    they made game super focused on pvp and guilds and also made game super prefferential for leaders to only feed themselves

    • @benjaherrera3299
      @benjaherrera3299 3 місяці тому +4

      so you think all players/guild masters are selfish in a game where you need guild members to be strong to win?

    • @bradleyd7895
      @bradleyd7895 3 місяці тому +7

      Yes 95% chance for GMs to play favorites

    • @mateukole5660
      @mateukole5660 3 місяці тому

      @@benjaherrera3299 Well it would be good for started that all lucent is shared across every participant by default. Imagine some item selling for 6k lucent and then GM just taking it all.

    • @AyitzGoDz
      @AyitzGoDz 2 місяці тому +1

      The guild I’m in is ranked 2 on the server and their pretty fair they do the dice roll. But if you get the item you can keep it

  • @AstroeX21
    @AstroeX21 3 місяці тому +12

    so I wont ever get guild loot unless im the owner.. got it lol

    • @AstroeX21
      @AstroeX21 3 місяці тому +3

      or best friends with the leader lol

    • @msonix
      @msonix 3 місяці тому +2

      So join/create a guild with a fair and transparent system in place.
      My guild is a casual guild but we implemented a DKP system to make sure everyone knows where everyone stands ^^

    • @AstroeX21
      @AstroeX21 3 місяці тому +1

      @@msonix yeah the guild I join has 500+ people and a loot council :( I highly doubt ill get anything now. Might try to find a casual guild even though im a hardcore one lol

    • @msonix
      @msonix 3 місяці тому +1

      @@AstroeX21 You'll probably make the right choice now then. You're likely to have more fun in the casual/semi-hardcore guild and have a more important role as well ^^

  • @jasonlowe2672
    @jasonlowe2672 3 місяці тому

    We are trying to come up with a blended method of using DKP but also ensuring that only the people who can use the item can bid on it. Where I'm stuck is how to handle peace field boss loot distribution. For example, Morokai spawns at 1am, I'm the only one on for my guild and I run Bow/Staff, and I luck out and get the sword. If we have loot set to go to the guild vault for DKP bidding then I lose out on the lucent I would gain from selling that blade on the AH, meanwhile tomorrow when our GS mains login they can bid on "my" sword. Now weekly guild raids I would classify differently because we all join those with the expectations of making our guild stronger, but a public event that occurs 5 times daily seems like it would cause a lot of upset guild members.

  • @Raptchur
    @Raptchur 2 місяці тому

    Great video. Not excited at all to join a guild. Also a small tip... When you make your character taller, make her head bigger. Your character has a bad case of tiny face.

  • @MarksFutureGains
    @MarksFutureGains 3 місяці тому +1

    Awesome system I love it. You have different choices. That Auction system for me is the way to go. Thank you sir.

  • @osteopathichomeopathicking6154
    @osteopathichomeopathicking6154 3 місяці тому

    Ahh-so thank you so much!

  • @Deathswife
    @Deathswife 3 місяці тому +7

    So is it even worth joining a guild? I’ll be a healer and as a healer we hardly get anything in these type of situations. I rather avoid the heartache and drama 😂 I guess I’ll look into more.

    • @raulcast9933
      @raulcast9933 3 місяці тому +1

      I think a small guild max 40 people would work for you ngl

    • @re-Rina
      @re-Rina 2 місяці тому

      as a healer you won't get anything from normal world bosses so you have to join a guild that distributes loot fairly

  • @ClassicDoffy
    @ClassicDoffy 3 місяці тому

    The guild auction and DKP system sound fair

  • @loudthedreamer8401
    @loudthedreamer8401 3 місяці тому +4

    Does this apply to world bosses? Like just because you’re in a guild the loot automatically goes to it regardless of you did it alone or with a friend from the guild?

    • @Whelps
      @Whelps  3 місяці тому

      if its set to 'to guild' yes

    • @jimmys443
      @jimmys443 3 місяці тому +4

      @@Whelps thats crazy.. they should only do this with guild bosses, not other content... whats the point of me doing world bosses if i dont even get the loot lol.. insane

    • @InsaneUncalled
      @InsaneUncalled 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@jimmys443 what i heard was. Even if it goes to guild storage, its still yours and only goes there so u can sell to other members. If u go to distribution, u will see u can claim your item from storage, so yes your item is yours eitehr way but i heard also have 30 mins to claim

    • @ngc4486diane
      @ngc4486diane 3 місяці тому +1

      @@InsaneUncalled some is 5 mins that's if its set that way.

  • @RoyaLBR
    @RoyaLBR 2 місяці тому

    Looting rights for boss drops (non pvp boss) are based on damage applied on boss or its random between all participants?

  • @BzDragon52
    @BzDragon52 3 місяці тому +5

    i was looking forward to playing this game but now I'm kinda on the fance. if important content is done once a day at specific times, is their a way for me to reliably keep up with everyone else if I cant meet the times without falling to far behind? and I couldn't find the global server time for events

    • @darkshinigami9608
      @darkshinigami9608 3 місяці тому

      you wanna less effort to compete with others who invest their time ? become whales then, easy

    • @Scadipippen
      @Scadipippen 3 місяці тому +6

      event timings are awful.

    • @msonix
      @msonix 3 місяці тому +1

      Try it out for free when the global launch happens in less than a week and you can see for yourself ^^

    • @m3zuss
      @m3zuss 3 місяці тому

      If u are not hardcore u can only dream or pay a lot to get best weapons from mass pvp world bosses

    • @msonix
      @msonix 3 місяці тому

      @@m3zuss or farm a lot of lucent

  • @CRONKTEZ
    @CRONKTEZ 3 місяці тому +1

    For the guild raids, is that 7 Guild Raids a week for the whole guild? Or each individual player has 7 raids. And what if I am out of raids but want to help a guild mate

    • @Whelps
      @Whelps  3 місяці тому +2

      7 for the guild

  • @ShadowHoma
    @ShadowHoma 3 місяці тому

    anyone had the 'can join the next guild raid and beyond' red message when you try to enter the guild rade?

  • @themosthighofthisrealm
    @themosthighofthisrealm 2 місяці тому

    After you finish a mission they should have the damage stats of every player who done the most damage

  • @mugen3603
    @mugen3603 3 місяці тому

    I have a group of friends (8ppl) that I'm playing with. We want to make our own guild, but if we do, are we missing out on anything by not being a part of a larger guild? Are there disadvantages to being part of a smaller guild? Should we just join the largest guild we can find?

  • @ololo-w2z
    @ololo-w2z 3 місяці тому +1

    Hey, can u help me with class advice? Ive been watching videos and im in love with Xbow/Dagger playstyle for PVE + its number one dps. But for PVP im in love with GS/Dagger playstyle. What should i choose? I really want to play both PVE and PVP without investing into the game and swiping, with focusing on PVP in endgame. I love Gs/Dagger playstyle in PVP and its important for me because i want to focus on PVP later, but i saw that Gs/Dagger is not good in PVE Dungeons/Farming Runes/Raids and can be even gatekept, so i think it will be hard for me to progress as F2P and grind to build my char and. On other hand Xbow/Dagger is top PVE class and i really in love with it in PVE and sure will easy grind, but idk how i will feel PVP... I saw that it good at PVP too, but not as Gs/Dagger.
    What can u advice me?
    And what if i will progress on 2 builds on 1 char? Like firstly Xbow/Dagger for PVE and farm resources to make my Gs/Dagger build in lategame? Will it be very long and will i have enough skills (or idk what this game require) to do that or is it better to choose only one?

    • @Charlie-lx9mg
      @Charlie-lx9mg 3 місяці тому

      Jesus Christ you wrote a whole novel, bro just pick what you like and learn the ins and outs of it. Know it well enough to be able to adapt and adjust your skill choice, stats etc. and playstyle to PvP or PvE. Get off that “tier list” crap, don’t make that the sole reason why you play or don’t play something. Play what you want

  • @Steven-t8h
    @Steven-t8h 3 місяці тому +1

    So I have a guild with 70 players and want to distribute the loot just to whoever drops it can that work or is it the boss that drops it and you have to run over and pick it up off the floor and the first that picks it up gets it, or is it just random which person drops the loot at a boss? I have not done a guild raid yet but will do soon so would like to know.

    • @Whelps
      @Whelps  3 місяці тому +1

      Its random

    • @Steven-t8h
      @Steven-t8h 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Whelps So if it is set to guild claims nothing then its up to the specific players present RNG and loot drop can only be seen by them if they are lucky enough?

  • @roefaura
    @roefaura 3 місяці тому

    what's the best way to find a good guild?

  • @vurmeow
    @vurmeow 3 місяці тому +1

    i really enjoy this game, i hate how its so focused on guilds to climb further and get good loot instead of soloing.

  • @aldodzb
    @aldodzb 3 місяці тому

    So if you sell it through the guild you dont need to use inks? Then the best for a casual guild would be to do the 5 min thing. Keep of you need, sell otherwise.
    If you cant trust anyone, then just random to whoever drops the item.

    • @ngc4486diane
      @ngc4486diane 3 місяці тому

      loot drops need to be random so healers tanks get drops less u like a guild to spoon feed u the loot u could of earn or i mean should of earn in a fair loot drop system which lets face it this is not.

  • @TICUofficial
    @TICUofficial 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for your content man. Do you have a T1 progression and endgame build for bow dagger by any chance?

  • @jimmys443
    @jimmys443 2 місяці тому

    why is it almost impossible to get arch weapon with guild auction system? if you get a lot of good drops and big lucent everytime in no time you be able to buy a archweapon yourself?

    • @Whelps
      @Whelps  2 місяці тому

      'If you get a lot of good drops and big lucent everytime in no time'

  • @laweffect6394
    @laweffect6394 3 місяці тому +3

    How is the grind because I swear if it takes a hole day just to get one item I don't need BDO all over again

    • @benjaherrera3299
      @benjaherrera3299 3 місяці тому

      definitely not BDO level i can tell you that

    • @Despond
      @Despond 3 місяці тому +1

      @@benjaherrera3299 BDO is a candlyland joke now. Free everything, boring AF.

    • @legion8328
      @legion8328 3 місяці тому +1

      1 day!?? Rookie numbers you arent built for mmos

    • @ascend111
      @ascend111 3 місяці тому

      You probably shouldn't be playing mmos bro... these games are marathons not morning jogs, progression is always long.

  • @scottykrazy
    @scottykrazy 3 місяці тому

    I just have 1 question. Is the loot from Peace World Bosses goes to guild storage too? Or just the loot from guild boss and Conflict World Bosses go to guild storage.

    • @ngc4486diane
      @ngc4486diane 3 місяці тому

      something i doubt they answer looking at the guild settings looks like all loot can be just sent to guild bank if they so choose u got to trust your guild to be fair, i say good luck with that system in place because u don't get a choice, considering the innate greed in a gear pvp game.

  • @kidshadow145
    @kidshadow145 3 місяці тому

    What is best spend guild coins on?

  • @outdawayyy887
    @outdawayyy887 2 місяці тому

    Can I just list an item for guild members for zero L?

  • @GeorgeNoX
    @GeorgeNoX 3 місяці тому

    In our guild we /dice for it and then whoever wins officer opens a personal sale for them

  • @TheSexton89
    @TheSexton89 3 місяці тому

    How do you put item in the storage.

  • @Keyjuann
    @Keyjuann 3 місяці тому

    do u have a key bind for new player video?

  • @xzeraCS
    @xzeraCS 3 місяці тому

    my guild has it as guild aquires after 5 mins but tbh i dont even think my guild leader knows about this option bc theres so much stuff pending that no one ever claimed😂

    • @ngc4486diane
      @ngc4486diane 3 місяці тому

      ye well that's just bloody awful because i think ppl don't know that's where their loots going.

  • @ConfusedSpaceCapsule-nu8bc
    @ConfusedSpaceCapsule-nu8bc Місяць тому

    Thank you

  • @barisyildirim79
    @barisyildirim79 Місяць тому

    if you are are guildless and theres a worldboss drop does it go in my inventory

  • @Klannahar
    @Klannahar 3 місяці тому

    Well done guide.

  • @v-ia
    @v-ia 3 місяці тому

    for specific reasons i want to avoid using discord in general, how required would you say is it gonna be for guild activities? can i expect to find a guild that doesn't have discord as a requirement? planning to join one for benefits and casual community, nothing serious.

    • @Whelps
      @Whelps  3 місяці тому +1

      casual guilds that dont pvp wouldnt really require you to use discord

  • @AC30F5P4D3S
    @AC30F5P4D3S 3 місяці тому

    So if I'm in a guild that puts all loot into the guild and lets say I'm out just solo farming and say some purple gear piece drops, does that mean it goes straight to the guilld or does this rule only apply when we are doing group content?

    • @TheMRpurplecow
      @TheMRpurplecow 3 місяці тому

      So if you went and solo’d a world boss by yourself and the guild has the option set to “to guild” then yes. If you are out just farming normal dungeons or field mobs and purple drops that will always go to you. It’s only for large world bosses/guild bosses and other large scale events in game. Bottom line tho, if you are in a 70/70 guild and only you show up to the world boss and the item drops to you, the guild gets it and could very well give it to someone else.

  • @ruslanakzhegitpov9064
    @ruslanakzhegitpov9064 3 місяці тому +3

    Спасибо. не играя в игру , с каждым видео понимаю все больше и больше механик.

  • @billlam7756
    @billlam7756 3 місяці тому +7

    They gonna keep all the gear 😂

    • @overoula
      @overoula 3 місяці тому

      keep all and leave guild :D happened many times with crazy gear in games

  • @patriciojoaquintorresbanci4333
    @patriciojoaquintorresbanci4333 3 місяці тому

    what is the time a player must wait in order to join a new guild if he withdraw from a current one?

  • @L3MON_Haze
    @L3MON_Haze 2 місяці тому

    Like this comment if you also left guild because of disagreeing about the way loot is distributed. Currently playing without guild, and considering quitting game in general.

  • @puredabs
    @puredabs 2 місяці тому +1

    this system is so stupid. I've never seen any loot from world bosses. almost all guilds have it set "To Guild" and if i earned the reward why the hell would someone else get it? that makes no sense. If i decide to give it to them is one thing, but for my guild lead to decide for me is trash. we basically have to rely on someone else and a already shitty 3% drop rate or something stupid. I just do not engage in the guild activities because there isn't a point. Just join one for the bonuses and do your own thing. BTW doing a world boss with your guild doesn't help your Chances of getting a Drop.its based on personal damage unless you are in a conflict zone its honestly just another wall stopping you from gearing up. Shout out to all the Playstation server guilds robbing casual people of there loot.

  • @VexinQuest
    @VexinQuest 3 місяці тому +2

    What is the penalty for leaving a guild?

    • @lallilagarithelol
      @lallilagarithelol 3 місяці тому +1

      For me (Conquest Server) it was 36hours.
      Read on Reddit that someone had 3 days but I doubt that from my Experience

    • @ngc4486diane
      @ngc4486diane 3 місяці тому

      @@lallilagarithelol i joined a guild they never even spoke or talked in guild chat i think it was there just to gather loot. wont be joining another guild because u have to trust them to give u loot they need to change that asap

  • @nxswad
    @nxswad 3 місяці тому +1

    wait so say if someone is given the gear is it possible to re give/trade item to another guild member after u acquired it or once u get item its locked into ur acc

    • @MrGuitardeth
      @MrGuitardeth 3 місяці тому +2

      There's no loot trading...that would disrupt the games p2w mechs.

    • @forfunchannel8126
      @forfunchannel8126 3 місяці тому

      ⁠​⁠@@MrGuitardethwhat? Explain, how does me selling my drop to other guild member for 50% or less price of the item on AH disrupts the p2w mech? I get lucent, he gets his BiS cheap (he gets item, not trait). Isnt that win win?

  • @colosine
    @colosine 3 місяці тому +2

    Screw that, the guild is just stealing our loot

  • @averagecommenter4623
    @averagecommenter4623 Місяць тому

    This loot system sucks bro, I want everyone in my guild to get what they worked for

  • @Sairento-kun
    @Sairento-kun 3 місяці тому

    It will be "funny" to be a lone wolf with all of this

  • @raulcast9933
    @raulcast9933 3 місяці тому

    F i guess joining a big guild at the start is off the table ngl

  • @Phoenix-Zion
    @Phoenix-Zion 2 місяці тому

    The sh!t part of this, is: When it seems after a while joing a Guild mostly you'll find out that many losers are RMT players. So, if the is a Guild battle "YOU MUST" have a balnaced gear for the dungeon or whatever... So, if you're NOT participating whit this crap of RMT's, then you're fcked in the Guild!
    So what I've noticed...

  • @69majava
    @69majava 3 місяці тому

    is savix your brother by any chance? also nice video

  • @Rasyaboy2018
    @Rasyaboy2018 2 місяці тому

    DKP and guild action most reasonable method, roll just making more drama, why dont just give the item to whoever got the loot in the first place

  • @imSkrap
    @imSkrap 2 місяці тому

    It’s stupid you can’t see this before joining and it’s stupid it’s a thing in the first place.. if I’m not doing guild organized world bosses why tf should the guild get it

  • @Maw0822
    @Maw0822 3 місяці тому +3

    Having P2W currency in game I imagine most guilds are going to use the Guild Auction to make loot in this game even more gatekeeped than it already is

    • @ngc4486diane
      @ngc4486diane 3 місяці тому

      and ride the back of guild members loot drops.

  • @WoLFDaRkNeSs
    @WoLFDaRkNeSs 2 місяці тому

    fr i swear better making your own guild then be a part of onez imaginate if any player would knew that, each player would have his own guild and there would be no moee guilds at all 😂

  • @marcus-temper0376
    @marcus-temper0376 2 місяці тому

    Stupid game auto put me in a region that doesn’t speak English so now if I wanna switch to English server I have to make a new character and lose all progression time to quit I guess

  • @BallBusta
    @BallBusta 3 місяці тому

    If your guild is set to "To Guild" distribution, leave that guild on the spot. There's no reason for a guild to steal items you have acquired only to hand them out to people who leave the game after a week or sell on the auction for lucient you'll never see. It's a dog shit system that never should have been put in place.

  • @user-laksieqlamz-sa21-ue2xe
    @user-laksieqlamz-sa21-ue2xe 3 місяці тому

    I got Talus staff, and the guild says, you have to roll the dice again to win the staff XDDD... Imagine that, scammer these days have so many ways.
    the guild is called Tapwater on server Taion.

  • @blue_eyez_beats356
    @blue_eyez_beats356 2 місяці тому

    so you do must damage and get loot, and you need it but they give it to some random ass person that is more friends with guild leader. na fuck guilds

  • @eThugz
    @eThugz 3 місяці тому +10

    this ruins games... just like it ruined wow. game will be dead in no time. goodluck boys gl keeping 70 people happy with the 5 people trying to horde everything

    • @ngc4486diane
      @ngc4486diane 3 місяці тому +4

      this is a huge problem and the more ppl know about it the worst it will get. Just needs to be random fair loot drops no need for guild only anything.

    • @whatwhatdbzwhat4475
      @whatwhatdbzwhat4475 2 місяці тому +1

      This is just a reflection of what you would do.

    • @hud-saints5659
      @hud-saints5659 2 місяці тому +1

      There is no perfect system. But for me.. dkp is the most fair one for a f2p game. You need to work hard for you to acquire your loot.

    • @CALiG0D
      @CALiG0D 2 місяці тому +1

      You can let the loot be spread to guild members so it’s okay

    • @Peter-dp2hw
      @Peter-dp2hw 2 місяці тому

      I don't understand your comment, explain

  • @collegekids15
    @collegekids15 3 місяці тому +16

    So gearing in this game is trash because people are trash.

    • @memebro3181
      @memebro3181 3 місяці тому

      Yup. This game will create huge loot dramas for sure. I'm definitely joining a guild with loot AH. I don't intend to waste my life on this game anyway.

  • @packzuppackz
    @packzuppackz 2 місяці тому

    who wants to make a small guild with like 6-10 people and evenly distribute the lucent after we sell everything? my main guild is doing the DKP system and i havent got shit, just got a drop today( thank god it was garbage) and nobody wants it anyways, the guild leader is ignorant and wont list on auction house so the ppl that were with me can get some lucent. fucking dogshit system bro its literally like a political game and you have to trust people which is the hardest thing to do.. people backstab like nothing over the internet especially if they have 0 connection to you. im just trying to farm with some grinders, i have an alt already.

  • @SekaiFi
    @SekaiFi 3 місяці тому

    Ahh that why i never get loot , trash guild leader

  • @MrFirecam
    @MrFirecam 3 місяці тому +7

    So, avoid guilds and play alone, gotcha.

    • @Maw0822
      @Maw0822 3 місяці тому

      If you play alone you still won't be able to get any loot unless you swipe like crazy

    • @MrFirecam
      @MrFirecam 3 місяці тому +4

      @@Maw0822 I'll quit at endgame since i'm F2P. There's no point doing more, it's a P2W product.

    • @Despond
      @Despond 3 місяці тому +2

      @@MrFirecam This. Realize if you can't make a strict schedule for these timed events and are doing the best DMG for gear you're just going to sweat for very slow results. But as you said it's F2P, you can get some fun out of it and stop. In KR it fell under top 50, it will fall eventually in the West too.

    • @GenDrake3
      @GenDrake3 3 місяці тому

      It's only p2w for a 1% boost

  • @nervosadustbolt9642
    @nervosadustbolt9642 3 місяці тому +1

    I don't like this. All it says to me is that it's a popularity contest. If the Guild leader likes you less than he likes someone else ( chances are they will ) they will always just give gear to the person they like better over you regardless. It coming down to a popularity contest is far worse than RNG, as far, as I am concerned. " everyone will get something, if they are in there long enough " isn't a good enough answer. All's it means is I could be in the Guild for a Year.. And, have someone not constitute it as "long enough"

    • @diggles27
      @diggles27 3 місяці тому +1

      Clearly you didnt watch the video

  • @billdylan1600
    @billdylan1600 3 місяці тому +16

    lel, we all know its a p2w game, but that even loot drops from guild fights could be only handed out to who has the most bling is hilarious. That also means whoever designed the game must have had those thoughts in mind, rofl

    • @romangolob2279
      @romangolob2279 3 місяці тому +4

      Thats not correct. The guild can decide how the loot is distributed they can give away for free with /rolls or loot council if they choose to sell it in guild all the lucent spent will split within the guild.

    • @BEBAY
      @BEBAY 3 місяці тому

      ⁠@@romangolob2279yeah but lucent can be bought with real money, is there a limit on how much loot you can buy from within the guild? If a group of 3 close friends join a guild and spend real money on a ridiculous amount of Lucent they can just buy all of the loot everyone worked hard for. But supposedly with the global launch they’re nerfing a lot of pay to win aspects so we’ll see.

    • @Aypeross
      @Aypeross 3 місяці тому +5

      @@romangolob2279 lets be honest, the gm will decide and give it to the whale who won the pvp fight.

    • @OleHutch
      @OleHutch 3 місяці тому +6

      ​@@Aypeross don't project your poorness. Join a guild with better distribution rules if that's your concern

    • @brunch.
      @brunch. 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Ayperossdont join a guild with a bad GM then