I really like how you demo this on smaller waves that expose the characteristics MUCH better than head high and up videos where everything is so fast and "hidden" - and love how you comment on the rails grabbing, showing the small things noone else covers! PLEASE keep up the excellent work!! you REALLY help us boneheads make more educated purchases. I would HIGHLY recommending having an intro link to a base video covering volume/length and rider types - that would also REALLY help people not buy a board 2-3 sizes out - kudos for the great info man, just picked up a lost swordfish half price, was an order and customer changed his mind.. im 6-2/185lbs intermediate/20 years surfing and hope the 5-10/32.5L is a good all round size for me! Update: After riding the swordfish for a year all I can say it how was I living in a cave for so long - this thing RIPS. My first session was at Huntington on perhaps the most perfect of days, glass top, 4-6 footers perfectly and a great crowd of guys to surf with (no egos!) - The first 2 waves I couldnt even ride cos by the time my brain clicked into gear the waves was almost over - i SHOT out of the takeoff so fast I couldnt even correct enough. After I tightened it up - WOW - BLOWN AWAY. This thing handles everything you throw at it and more- I can see this handling 2ft mushy waves to over head without breaking a sweat - and possibly setting a speed record! Im 6-2 185lbs and ride a 5-10 in a 33 Litre swordfish. Its PERFECT! I used to go 6-2 to 6-6..
Epic show man! How do you compare the Swordfish vs the Rocket Wide? (You rode both in the same dims in your reviews) I think the RW is best as a groveller and the SF as a high performance
The SF can handle bigger surf and carries more speed (Better Daily Driver). I think the RW offers a smoother transition from rail to rail (better Flow) and a tighter turning radius in wraps.
Damn Noel you're killing me, you just got me super pumped on the Hydra this morning & then I rewatched how much speed you were generating on this board, bad a** !! Right around 4:47 you find another gear - NICE ! Best quote 'The board carries is much speed you find yourself getting out of the pocket & if thats the only downside of the board then thats a good board to me' ' lol
Fantastic review! Enjoyed the addition of a special guest star ⭐️ & was interesting to see how well the 🗡 🐠 performed in smaller but punchy Hawaiian 🌺 surf! Bravo 👏 Noel & Nate!
Hey Noel, I would would be interested how you'd compare the Swordfish to the Psycho Killer in terms of performance/ wave size. Thanks for that epic review! Best one yet!
rowanhicksdroskyn AP is a better Groveler... paddles better and has more glide. The SF will out perform the AP due to it being longer... more rail line offers more drive through turns. The SW has more rocker so it’s wave range is better from 2-6’ surf. The Ideal wave range on the AP is 1-4’ surf.
Good reviews, I really enjoy seeing Nate surfing too! Hope you fellas keep bringing on the locals for review! Bobby? N. Curran? Griff? line em up! Thanks again! Yew
As much as I want to ride one of Matt's boards, I feel the glass job just isn't up to par compared to other big name shapers. But hold the phone, thank God for Lib-Tech and Matt's collaboration providing the best darn tech for durability in any surfboard make period!!!! Off to the Lib-Tech site I go, woo-hoo
Mark Trevor The C4 Tech that Lost offers is next level flex with excellent durability too. I think the Lib Tech is stronger but the C4 is another great option that Lost offers in more board models.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 G'day Noel. Wow, I'm embarrassed to say that I had completely forgotten about that tech offered by Matt.... I'm an Aussie residing on the Sunshine Coast in Queensland and grabbing a board off the shelf in C4 construction is impossible and not readily available in surf shops here. I've actually never seen one in real life!!! So Matt Biolos, get your act sorted in Australia and I'll be riding one of your boards in stock dims when you do.... OK, Noel I'd love to see you review the model by Superbrand called the Tazer and I'll happily pay for the board for review if Superbrand doesn't deliver!!! Your break down and honesty on every review is of stand up quality. Thanks for your reply btw.
Mark Trevor Thanks for your kind words and generous offer to pay for the board you want me to review. At this point I need more requests for that board for me to review that model. I try hard to focus on the bigger brands and popular models that most shops carry stock world wide. This concept helps surfers and shops everywhere. Occasionally I do something unique or I choose a model from a mid size board brand that looks fun to shred. I also try to get models that I get a lot of requests for. I’m not saying no.... I just need more interest from our community. Cheers
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks Noel for the insight into your channel and business model on UA-cam. As a surfer and always on the search for waves and new boards under my feet, I believe you have an intellect group of surfers worldwide that tune in for the nitty gritty of surfboard design and are very savvy to new ideas and design regardless of where it comes from. I do hope and pray you can offer more for your subscribers down the track regarding unknown shapers and their design philosophy in your reviews as it grows. For me, I'd love to see that change on your channel!! Keep the vids coming and God bless that right hand point for the review lol..
I recommend my fins… they have a Large fin base, and only Medium fin depth. I call them the Momentum Series…. Check them out here. I make them in Raked, Neutral, and Pivot template. surfnshow.com/products/surf-n-show-thruster-rakes Traction pads I use my traction for all board types. Check out what makes it unique here. surfnshow.com/products/surf-n-show-traction-pad
Any recommendations on other future fins for this board, the ones you suggest are rad but not available on Europe? Thinking the P6 (formerly WCT) but don’t come as a 5 fin option, any input greatly appreciated! Thanks as ever for the epic reviews
Hi Noel. I'm between the RNF and swordfish. I know you love the RNF but I already have a puddle jumper for smaller waves. Which board you'll go between a RNF and a swordfish
Awesome thanks for the reply. Have you tried the rocket reddux? Do you know how it compare to the swordfish. Thanks again for the reviews, best reviews online by far
That board looks awesome! Do you ever throw in small quad rears instead of mediums? Do you think the loss of drive would outweigh the added looseness/maneuverability gained by running a small set? Thanks.
Absolutely.... We started shooting for the Hydra review roughly 8 weeks ago. We got good footage... and we hope to launch that review soon. No surf for me for 24 days now.... staying home for the good of all. cheers!!!
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Same down here in Florida Noel, no surf although there have been a couple of good days. Thanks for your reply. Looking forward for your Hydra review. I recently bought the Puddle Fish but I really wanted to Hydra. Cheers.
Great work Noel, my sons and i love your channel- without doubt the best board reviews on the web and we’re looking forward to your tutorials! What’s your impressions of the Hydra v Seaside v El Tomo as a small wave all-rounder? Appreciate your advice. Cheers from the east coast of Oz
Hi Noel, just want to say love your channel, I live in the city an hour from the closest beach and with this lockdown corona event looks like it could be a month or more before I get back in the water. I am thinking of getting a groveler and was wondering which one you would recommend for this late 2019 - 2020 period; I was thinking the Astro Pop would be in the race? Pyzel makes a wicked board.
Hey Noel. Always frothing on the clips. How would you compare the rad ripper vs the swordfish? You said you’ve never ridden a mayhem like this but what do you mean by this?
Chris Fan Swordfish is obviously more high performance and it suits my style of surfing better... so I like the Swordfish better. The RNF Retro seems a bit faster with a little more glide but it has a tendency to catch in the nose a bit on me. Both boards are super fun though... cheers
Hi Noel. What’s the relationship between the length of a board versus wave size? If the waves were firing (say 4-6 ft or possibly bigger) I wouldn’t know whether to take out a 6”1, 6”2, 6”4, etc. please advise. Thanks for the awesome content!
Imran Esack It’s really about what your looking for as a surfer and how you want to surf bigger waves. For me I like a shorter board for So Cal waves where I surf. If I surfed HI or heavy beach break then I might want a little longer board with more rocker to give me more hold and rail line to push through my turns. The down side for extra length can be less maneuverability or slower reaction time as it takes a split second longer to turn them compared to a shorter board. Everything in surfing is a preference and how things feel... as your skill level advances you will change your equipment to fit the turns you want to do and how fast you want to do them. Speed is one important thing in surfing and as the waves get bigger you work less to generate speed... now it’s about controlling that speed and now it’s about quickness in your equipment responding to your thoughts in critical sections or maneuvers. Obviously this all matters more to each surfer’s skill level.
Surf n Show Reviews great response. The key I guess is trying out boards to see which one works best. Been watching a lot of surf vlogs lately and brief discussion always comes up regarding the length of their equipment, however, the reason why the length is needed is never addressed. Thank you for your comprehensive response. Hopefully after COVID-19 I’ll be able to give it a go !🤙🏽
awesome review! looks like an awesome board. However, I am currently in the market for a new HP surfboard. I have my groveler/daily driver on lock and I love it (Channel islands Fred stubble) and I am looking for something a step above it for above average days in california (I am from malibu). I was thinking about the Happy but thought it might be a little too much rocker and wont get to use it enough. Any suggestions?
hey man. sikkkkk video!!! just wondering what size you would recomend im 5'8 and 155 pounds currently . i am done growing as well, but i want to buy one for the years to come. thanks so much!
Hi noel, for daily mushy, sometimes more powerfull, 3 to 4 foot surf, what board would you recomend, the uber driver o the swordfish? amazing content btw, thank you!!!
Diego Solé Really depends on your style of surfing... both boards are fast but the UD offers more performance. With that said the UD or UD XL would be my first choice... I like more performance boards. The SF is a great performance fish that can handle some size... the SF is a bit faster so it’s really up to you.
Hi! Great Review. I weigh 165Lb / 75kg, intermediate level and mostly surf beachbreak. I already have a set of FUTURES F6 ALPHA THRUSTER, categorized as balance that I think covers a wide range of conditions. Now I'm looking for a new set, in the Speed Generating family for waves between 2-4ft, and I am in doubt between; - Solus Generation Series- considered to be Rake despite having the smallest central fin that I think increases the "loose" feeling ... - HS2 Generation Series, the only ones considered pivot in this category (speed generating) Although I don't have vertical surfing, I am looking for a fin that will allow me to turn quickly on small waves without losing speed. In your opinion which fin do you advise? the board is a 5'10 - 20- 2.50 - 32.50L swordfish. Thank you!
João Vieira Large Legacy P8 Fint by Futures, or the Peregrine fins by Naked Viking Surf. The Peregrine fins size large are my favorites.... I recommend those for you.
Great Review! Noel, how did you position the traction pad on the board? Did you use a fish pad, or just push it back as far as you could up to the leash plug? Thank you for the content?
What would be your choice between the swordfish and rocket wide? My all time favorite board is the lost short round, which is based off the rocket I believe. It goes well in for me in everything up to head high. I'm looking for something with more speed.
Great review guys!! I’m ready to pull the trigger on a new board. Daily driver for Cali. Would you recommend the pyzalien 2, swordfish or driver 2.0? Thanks!!
Slowchap The PJHP is shorter, wider, and a pretty wide tail compared to the SF. The PJHP will do tighter turns in a smaller pocket due to it being shorter.. Less rail line promotes shorter quicker turns.... the down side is less rail line makes it difficult to do big carves and drive through your turns.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks, for better days I have a HS Holy Grail, I use the PJHP in small waves like 2' and under or maybe 3' if it is weak and fat.
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@@surfnshowreviews7777 would be sick if you did a instructional video on the back foot and it's movement and your weight pressure distribution on back foot when popping up driving and turns. Haven't found a really good one on youtube. I'm 6'0 220 and have more weight for my avg height. Wide point forward boards probably ddont help but im having trouble where if I pop up with my foot/stance back my weight is back and I get no drive but if my foot/stance is more forward I get drive it's just a struggle to get it back and make more radical turns. Trying to see if shorter boards help.
pizzaHunter You have to make the effort to for those changes. When I surf a 5’2” Groveler it narrow’s my stance a bit, then the waves get bigger and i jump to a 5’7” or 5’9” it takes a few waves or a whole session to adjust and widen my stance again.
jmg I did a board comparison between these two board for our Patrons. Similar outline but they surf nothing alike. They both have excellent performance attributes for fish’s but I cannot compare a Twin Fin to a board with 5 fin option. Sorry they surf nothing alike
Hi guys So many boards have similar dims. Even the Uber xl has similar dims. What would be the difference then? Also how about a fcs h4 vid? Would be nice...
Guy Katz UD XL has similar DIMS but its not a fish.... rocker, Concaves, tail designs, outline shapes and curves..... etc. So many differences in each design and thats what makes each board model so unique. Surf boards are cool like that.... very rare to surf two boards and they feel exactly the same.. even if they are the same model, shaped by the same guy, and glassed at the same time. UD XL offers more performance in the pocket by design, the SF might carry a little more down the line speed.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks for the answer. Problem is for guys like me, it's hard understanding from board descriptions on the web all of the feature you list. Where I live I don't have the privilege of going to the shop and holding the board. So I can tell maybe for example an entry rocker exists, bit how does the Uber XL entry rocker compares to the sword fish entry rocker (this is just an example of course)
@@surfnshowreviews7777 here's an idea. I'm lost's website and also other manufacturers boards are devided into groups. I assume these groups have general attributes that are common. For example, with Lost the pj family will have the same general rocker, outline etc compared to say the pro-formance series. Maybe it's a good idea to have a vid that talks about these families of boards and the differences between them. Just a thought...
Guy Katz Watch my Pyzel Gremlin, Phantom, Ghost, Shadow reviews. Jon designed this family of boards exactly like your talking about. Lost has also done this with the Driver, Sub Driver, UBer Driver, Mini Driver, etc....
Noel hopes all good! Wondering about something. Have you ever tried your look alike kelly slater quad set up with that little trailer? 😁 Got to wondering as I watched the NVS fin video you did. I did order the LSF in lib . Did have to order it in 5'6 . took your advice. You said if you were in a predicament take the larger size... Im just about the exact size as You.. Can't wait. Curious too, will you review those NVS fins in the set up they suggested? you do an awesome job keeping us posted on the fins with the board reviews. Again thanks for your input and help adding to my quiver!!!
Natural Born Reeler I will be doing more fin testing on the NVS fins for sure. Yes I have tried a nubster on fin configuration like Kelly and it works great... a little more hold. That little nubster really keeps the board from sliding out with a Quad set up.... if that’s the set up your talking about?
Great review. Thanks you. I’m looking at this board. What’s size do you suggest. I’m 6.3 215 pounds. Early intermediate, been riding a move of a traditional fish and looking for something now with a little more performance. Surfing mostly punchy beach breaks from 2-6ft range. Thanks
Looks like you & Nate we’re throwing down expression sessions!!! Noticed that you both liked the thruster set up. Was curious if either one of you threw in a set of Kolohe Andino thruster fins? I’ve got a couple sets & I’ve been stoked on’ em! Nate’s ode to the review, was hilarious!!! As always, great review! Thanks for the stoke!
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Noel, can you expand on that? Assuming that the fishbeard is a fish version of the neckbeard, which is super high performance in smaller-ish waves, I would think it would combine the best of both worlds (performance shorty and twin fish). How does it differ when you're riding from the swordfish. Thanks
@@cwr8618 The FB is a Twin Fin (2 boxes only) and comparing a board like the Swordfish that comes with a 5 fin option to a Twin Fin is never a good comparison in my book. I understand what your saying about the FB and SW outline looks close but the fin box position alone on the SF is most likely to far forward (making the SW super Loose) to be considered a Twin Fin deign. I am sure there is more to be said about that but I am not a Shaper..... The other point I want to make is.... surfing a performance Twin Fin will never feel or respond like a Thruster... that center fin in a Thruster changes everything. Really the only similarities between the FB and SF is there high Performance outline (Pointed Nose) and sleek stretched outlines for the word "Fish" to be in their names. The NB2 is a small wave performance board converted to a performance Fish in the FB, and the RNF Retro (Round Nose Fish) converted into a high performance Fish called the Swordfish. I personally like the idea and concept of both of these two boards and I hope to see more models like this coming and create their own category.
1" in length makes a big difference. When you add 1' in length they usually add a little more width and thickness. That width and thickness plus 1" in length added 1 extra liter in float. The extra width offers more speed and glide, and that little extra thickness allows me to push harder through my turns. I have come to the conclusion that if I gain 8-10 pounds of weight to my frame then I will need to add 1 Liter more foam to offset the foam - performance ration that I like. So yes the 1" is a big deal when you want to maximize performance. The Pro's are way more sensitive.... they freak over 0.5" longer.
Philip Bliss The Driver 2.0 is faster and shreds 2-4’ surf better so far. I have not surfed the Driver 2.0 over 4’ yet. The Driver 2.0 is the best HPSB I e surfed in 2-4’ surf to date
Man I do. I ride boards that are 2 litres more in the winter. Mind you I'm no pro and I have a full time job but doing that has really made my winter surfing way more fun. 35L in boardies 37 in a wettt
Hey Noel - how would you compare this board to the rad ripper? I'm wondering which one you consider more high performance...great review, appreciate the content, stay well!
I am a previous owner of a Rad Ripper and it seemed like I always had to put my weight on the tail to control the Ripper. My opinion now that I own a Swordfish it blows the Rad Ripper away. My weight 175 lbs and Height 5'11" Swordfish dims 5'7" • 19.25 • 2.38 • 28.5L Rad Ripper dims 5'8" • 19.5 • 2.38 • 29.8L.
@@DavidOfTheSouth The largest I have tried mine in is 2 to 3 feet overhead surf and it handled it fine. Honestly, I’m not sure what the surf height limit is for this surfboard.
Hi Noel, I am one of your biggest follower/fan but I need some help or recomendarion. I want a board for the 1-4 feet range for the summe in Puerto Rico. I tend to surf high performance board but i been thinking about a different model/style and I been looking at the following- Forewire Seaside, Firewire Glazer, lost Sworsfish or Lost pocket Rocket or Pyzel Astro Pop. Any recomendations is greatly appreciated
Surf n Show Reviews// thank you Noel! It’s a pleasure to have someone like yourself taking there time to give us such valuable feedback. I’m 45 and spent years guessing and searching for that one magic stick. Need to collaborate together on a boat charter in the mentawais. Can do a full indo segment on boards and fins in all kinds of conditions🤙
miguel lopez Both fast with good performance but the Swordfish is a performance Fish. The Rocket Redux surfs more like a sleek high performance Puddle Jumper.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Hey Noel! I have a Hydra and Rocket Redux currently. Looking for one more board for the quiver as a daily driver (I live in Santa Barbara and the conditions in town vary a lot - very rarely does it get over 7'). Would you recommend a Swordfish over other boards like the Pyzalien or Hayden Untitled?
Thanks for the quick reply. I know the pad needs to be as far back as possible on a fish, so I was curious if you were using a “fish style” pad. Glad to see any pad works
Will Davis SF equals better performance due to it having Thruster option for better pivot and longer rail line for more drive through turns. Seaside equals more speed and glide and better paddling.
I'll never understand why Hawaiians thinks they're so special that they get to redefine what 1 foot is. Units of measurement are objective, no subjective, and to make them subjective defeats the whole purpose of them in the first place.
@@ElevenEightNate they say it's the back of the wave that determines size. also the surf is better than most regions in the world, rich vs poor mentality.
Gents i know a few years old now forgive for being late to the party! 😂 If you had to choose between the rnf 96 and the SF which would you go for as a daily driver please? Pretty sure you class them as such thanks noel for a great show as always 🤙 @surfnshow
Hi Noel, I am one of your biggest follower/fan but I need some help or recomendarion. I want a board for the 1-4 feet range for the summe in Puerto Rico. I tend to surf high performance board but i been thinking about a different model/style and I been looking at the following- Forewire Seaside, Firewire Glazer, lost Sworsfish or Lost pocket Rocket or Pyzel Astro Pop. Any recomendations is greatly appreciated
I really like how you demo this on smaller waves that expose the characteristics MUCH better than head high and up videos where everything is so fast and "hidden" - and love how you comment on the rails grabbing, showing the small things noone else covers! PLEASE keep up the excellent work!! you REALLY help us boneheads make more educated purchases. I would HIGHLY recommending having an intro link to a base video covering volume/length and rider types - that would also REALLY help people not buy a board 2-3 sizes out - kudos for the great info man, just picked up a lost swordfish half price, was an order and customer changed his mind.. im 6-2/185lbs intermediate/20 years surfing and hope the 5-10/32.5L is a good all round size for me!
Update:
After riding the swordfish for a year all I can say it how was I living in a cave for so long - this thing RIPS. My first session was at Huntington on perhaps the most perfect of days, glass top, 4-6 footers perfectly and a great crowd of guys to surf with (no egos!) - The first 2 waves I couldnt even ride cos by the time my brain clicked into gear the waves was almost over - i SHOT out of the takeoff so fast I couldnt even correct enough. After I tightened it up - WOW - BLOWN AWAY. This thing handles everything you throw at it and more- I can see this handling 2ft mushy waves to over head without breaking a sweat - and possibly setting a speed record! Im 6-2 185lbs and ride a 5-10 in a 33 Litre swordfish. Its PERFECT! I used to go 6-2 to 6-6..
Awsome channel, thanks! Great that you're mixing it up with guests ripping the boards with you👌🏼
Epic show man! How do you compare the Swordfish vs the Rocket Wide? (You rode both in the same dims in your reviews) I think the RW is best as a groveller and the SF as a high performance
The SF can handle bigger surf and carries more speed (Better Daily Driver). I think the RW offers a smoother transition from rail to rail (better Flow) and a tighter turning radius in wraps.
Damn Noel you're killing me, you just got me super pumped on the Hydra this morning & then I rewatched how much speed you were generating on this board, bad a** !! Right around 4:47 you find another gear - NICE ! Best quote 'The board carries is much speed you find yourself getting out of the pocket & if thats the only downside of the board then thats a good board to me' ' lol
Fantastic review! Enjoyed the addition of a special guest star ⭐️ & was interesting to see how well the 🗡 🐠 performed in smaller but punchy Hawaiian 🌺 surf! Bravo 👏 Noel & Nate!
Great review, and Nate singing was pure gold!
jwuii Agreed
Nice! Had Johnny on the other day.
Once again great review Noel, loved nates song too,
Can't wait for the surfing tutorials, yeeeoooww 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
Hey Noel, I would would be interested how you'd compare the Swordfish to the Psycho Killer in terms of performance/ wave size.
Thanks for that epic review! Best one yet!
T. Rudolpho SF is faster and has a better small wave range. I like the SF better in 1-3’ surf and the PK better in 3-6’ surf.
What is the difference between this board and the psycho killer?
Just got one 5’10 . Moving from the RNF Redux 6’4 . 150 lbs. 5’6. I’m going on a trip 🇸🇻 . Stocked to try it 😬hope it works for me
Been waiting on this one! Hope everything's going well over there.
All is good.. our family is healthy and we are staying home.
Hi Noel. How does this compare with the Pyzel Astro Pop? They both look fast with good flow...
rowanhicksdroskyn AP is a better Groveler... paddles better and has more glide. The SF will out perform the AP due to it being longer... more rail line offers more drive through turns. The SW has more rocker so it’s wave range is better from 2-6’ surf. The Ideal wave range on the AP is 1-4’ surf.
Great review Noel. Be safe out there and stay healthy.
Good reviews, I really enjoy seeing Nate surfing too! Hope you fellas keep bringing on the locals for review! Bobby? N. Curran? Griff? line em up! Thanks again! Yew
what do you think for a one board quiver for the east coast? sword fish or pyzalien 2? seems like sword fish goes better in mush, but i’m not sure.
Love you guys!! Best reviews in the game!
Highlight of the review Nate's song, awesome review!!!!
I wonder how this board compares to the Fishbeard
As much as I want to ride one of Matt's boards, I feel the glass job just isn't up to par compared to other big name shapers. But hold the phone, thank God for Lib-Tech and Matt's collaboration providing the best darn tech for durability in any surfboard make period!!!! Off to the Lib-Tech site I go, woo-hoo
Mark Trevor The C4 Tech that Lost offers is next level flex with excellent durability too. I think the Lib Tech is stronger but the C4 is another great option that Lost offers in more board models.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 G'day Noel. Wow, I'm embarrassed to say that I had completely forgotten about that tech offered by Matt.... I'm an Aussie residing on the Sunshine Coast in Queensland and grabbing a board off the shelf in C4 construction is impossible and not readily available in surf shops here. I've actually never seen one in real life!!! So Matt Biolos, get your act sorted in Australia and I'll be riding one of your boards in stock dims when you do.... OK, Noel I'd love to see you review the model by Superbrand called the Tazer and I'll happily pay for the board for review if Superbrand doesn't deliver!!! Your break down and honesty on every review is of stand up quality. Thanks for your reply btw.
Mark Trevor Thanks for your kind words and generous offer to pay for the board you want me to review. At this point I need more requests for that board for me to review that model. I try hard to focus on the bigger brands and popular models that most shops carry stock world wide. This concept helps surfers and shops everywhere. Occasionally I do something unique or I choose a model from a mid size board brand that looks fun to shred. I also try to get models that I get a lot of requests for. I’m not saying no.... I just need more interest from our community. Cheers
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks Noel for the insight into your channel and business model on UA-cam. As a surfer and always on the search for waves and new boards under my feet, I believe you have an intellect group of surfers worldwide that tune in for the nitty gritty of surfboard design and are very savvy to new ideas and design regardless of where it comes from. I do hope and pray you can offer more for your subscribers down the track regarding unknown shapers and their design philosophy in your reviews as it grows. For me, I'd love to see that change on your channel!! Keep the vids coming and God bless that right hand point for the review lol..
Hey Noel! You recommend large fins even at your weight? More drive? Also what traction pads are you using for a fish tail? Thanks
I recommend my fins… they have a Large fin base, and only Medium fin depth. I call them the Momentum Series…. Check them out here. I make them in Raked, Neutral, and Pivot template.
surfnshow.com/products/surf-n-show-thruster-rakes
Traction pads I use my traction for all board types. Check out what makes it unique here.
surfnshow.com/products/surf-n-show-traction-pad
Nate's song next level
Any recommendations on other future fins for this board, the ones you suggest are rad but not available on Europe? Thinking the P6 (formerly WCT) but don’t come as a 5 fin option, any input greatly appreciated! Thanks as ever for the epic reviews
@@henryjackson3587 get a set of Kelly’s 5 fin Endorfins set
Worth going with the large size? I’m around 76kg? Thanks for the reply!
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Hi Noel. I'm between the RNF and swordfish. I know you love the RNF but I already have a puddle jumper for smaller waves. Which board you'll go between a RNF and a swordfish
RNF by a mile. The Swordfish is a bit sticky…. Less flow compared to the RNF.
Awesome thanks for the reply. Have you tried the rocket reddux? Do you know how it compare to the swordfish. Thanks again for the reviews, best reviews online by far
That board looks awesome! Do you ever throw in small quad rears instead of mediums? Do you think the loss of drive would outweigh the added looseness/maneuverability gained by running a small set? Thanks.
Love this show! Thanks Noel!
damn, how'd i miss this one. that opening montage of you guys tearing those lefts and rights was fucking sick
Good job, Nate...some skillz there, buddy!
Hello Noel, thanks for the review! are planning, once we get back to normal to do a review on the Lost Hydra? thanks, stay safe!
Absolutely.... We started shooting for the Hydra review roughly 8 weeks ago. We got good footage... and we hope to launch that review soon. No surf for me for 24 days now.... staying home for the good of all. cheers!!!
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Same down here in Florida Noel, no surf although there have been a couple of good days. Thanks for your reply. Looking forward for your Hydra review. I recently bought the Puddle Fish but I really wanted to Hydra. Cheers.
Karin Cabrera Hydra is legit!!!
Great work Noel, my sons and i love your channel- without doubt the best board reviews on the web and we’re looking forward to your tutorials! What’s your impressions of the Hydra v Seaside v El Tomo as a small wave all-rounder? Appreciate your advice. Cheers from the east coast of Oz
Hi Noel, just want to say love your channel, I live in the city an hour from the closest beach and with this lockdown corona event looks like it could be a month or more before I get back in the water. I am thinking of getting a groveler and was wondering which one you would recommend for this late 2019 - 2020 period; I was thinking the Astro Pop would be in the race? Pyzel makes a wicked board.
Robert Marlin Astro POP for sure
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Yep looks like a sick little board, frothing for a surf, the only corona I like is with lime...
Hey Noel. Always frothing on the clips. How would you compare the rad ripper vs the swordfish? You said you’ve never ridden a mayhem like this but what do you mean by this?
Nate! Sick jam session yeeeeehaaaaa!
Rnf retro looked better to me, better flow and looked like more spray. Which did you prefer Noel? Great review!
Chris Fan Swordfish is obviously more high performance and it suits my style of surfing better... so I like the Swordfish better. The RNF Retro seems a bit faster with a little more glide but it has a tendency to catch in the nose a bit on me. Both boards are super fun though... cheers
Take care, Noel Saludos From San Bernardo , Beach town down here in Argentina, Hope you are safe
Chapa
Hi Noel. What’s the relationship between the length of a board versus wave size? If the waves were firing (say 4-6 ft or possibly bigger) I wouldn’t know whether to take out a 6”1, 6”2, 6”4, etc. please advise. Thanks for the awesome content!
Imran Esack It’s really about what your looking for as a surfer and how you want to surf bigger waves. For me I like a shorter board for So Cal waves where I surf. If I surfed HI or heavy beach break then I might want a little longer board with more rocker to give me more hold and rail line to push through my turns. The down side for extra length can be less maneuverability or slower reaction time as it takes a split second longer to turn them compared to a shorter board. Everything in surfing is a preference and how things feel... as your skill level advances you will change your equipment to fit the turns you want to do and how fast you want to do them. Speed is one important thing in surfing and as the waves get bigger you work less to generate speed... now it’s about controlling that speed and now it’s about quickness in your equipment responding to your thoughts in critical sections or maneuvers. Obviously this all matters more to each surfer’s skill level.
Surf n Show Reviews great response. The key I guess is trying out boards to see which one works best. Been watching a lot of surf vlogs lately and brief discussion always comes up regarding the length of their equipment, however, the reason why the length is needed is never addressed. Thank you for your comprehensive response. Hopefully after COVID-19 I’ll be able to give it a go !🤙🏽
awesome review! looks like an awesome board. However, I am currently in the market for a new HP surfboard. I have my groveler/daily driver on lock and I love it (Channel islands Fred stubble) and I am looking for something a step above it for above average days in california (I am from malibu). I was thinking about the Happy but thought it might be a little too much rocker and wont get to use it enough. Any suggestions?
Nate always rips, didn’t know he could sing half decent too haha 😂. Sick review mate, pumped for the new content coming soon 👍
hey man. sikkkkk video!!! just wondering what size you would recomend im 5'8 and 155 pounds currently . i am done growing as well, but i want to buy one for the years to come. thanks so much!
Hi noel, for daily mushy, sometimes more powerfull, 3 to 4 foot surf, what board would you recomend, the uber driver o the swordfish? amazing content btw, thank you!!!
Diego Solé Really depends on your style of surfing... both boards are fast but the UD offers more performance. With that said the UD or UD XL would be my first choice... I like more performance boards. The SF is a great performance fish that can handle some size... the SF is a bit faster so it’s really up to you.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 all right, thank you very much, very helpfull information!!!!!!
Hi! Great Review.
I weigh 165Lb / 75kg, intermediate level and mostly surf beachbreak. I already have a set of FUTURES F6 ALPHA THRUSTER, categorized as balance that I think covers a wide range of conditions.
Now I'm looking for a new set, in the Speed Generating family for waves between 2-4ft,
and I am in doubt between;
- Solus Generation Series- considered to be Rake despite having the smallest central fin that I think increases the "loose" feeling ...
- HS2 Generation Series, the only ones considered pivot in this category (speed generating)
Although I don't have vertical surfing, I am looking for a fin that will allow me to turn quickly on small waves without losing speed. In your opinion which fin do you advise?
the board is a 5'10 - 20- 2.50 - 32.50L swordfish.
Thank you!
João Vieira Large Legacy P8 Fint by Futures, or the Peregrine fins by Naked Viking Surf. The Peregrine fins size large are my favorites.... I recommend those for you.
Great Review! Noel, how did you position the traction pad on the board? Did you use a fish pad, or just push it back as far as you could up to the leash plug? Thank you for the content?
I used a normal pad and pushed back all the way
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks man. Again, you have made me a more educated surfer, which has translated to the water. Very much appreciated.
What would be your choice between the swordfish and rocket wide?
My all time favorite board is the lost short round, which is based off the rocket I believe. It goes well in for me in everything up to head high. I'm looking for something with more speed.
What is your thoughts about Libtech construction, Noel?
쿡쿠 CooKoo I have no thoughts or opinion at this time. I have never tried one or even held one in my DIMS. Sorry
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Libtech sounds like a good idea for a video :0)
Great review guys!! I’m ready to pull the trigger on a new board. Daily driver for Cali. Would you recommend the pyzalien 2, swordfish or driver 2.0? Thanks!!
Jake Stone P2
How do you compare it to the fishbeard? Both seem to be in the same category starting as a fish and moving to a more high performance board.
Hi Noel, great show and great reviews as always. How would you compare the PJHP and the SF? Thanks, Craig
Slowchap The PJHP is shorter, wider, and a pretty wide tail compared to the SF. The PJHP will do tighter turns in a smaller pocket due to it being shorter.. Less rail line promotes shorter quicker turns.... the down side is less rail line makes it difficult to do big carves and drive through your turns.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks, for better days I have a HS Holy Grail, I use the PJHP in small waves like 2' and under or maybe 3' if it is weak and fat.
Hey Noel, would you recommend the Swordfish or Pyzelian II as a daily driver for 1-6 ft RJ's
Where can I find the “surf better tutorials “? Thanks
We are in production of the first episode now... so we have not launched one yet. We hope to launch the first Tutorial this April. Hang tight.... and you will find it right here on our You Tube Channel. Make sure you Subscribed to stay current on our content and you can also follow us on Instagram @surf_n_show. Yewww
@@surfnshowreviews7777 would be sick if you did a instructional video on the back foot and it's movement and your weight pressure distribution on back foot when popping up driving and turns. Haven't found a really good one on youtube. I'm 6'0 220 and have more weight for my avg height. Wide point forward boards probably ddont help but im having trouble where if I pop up with my foot/stance back my weight is back and I get no drive but if my foot/stance is more forward I get drive it's just a struggle to get it back and make more radical turns. Trying to see if shorter boards help.
pizzaHunter You have to make the effort to for those changes. When I surf a 5’2” Groveler it narrow’s my stance a bit, then the waves get bigger and i jump to a 5’7” or 5’9” it takes a few waves or a whole session to adjust and widen my stance again.
Awesome review Noel. Would love to see some more Sharpeye board reviews!
Jake Formosa Me too... I ordered a couple more but I have not heard from them in a while.
Hi, how do you compare this board to the Fishbeard?. Tanks, greetings form Panama!
jmg I did a board comparison between these two board for our Patrons. Similar outline but they surf nothing alike. They both have excellent performance attributes for fish’s but I cannot compare a Twin Fin to a board with 5 fin option. Sorry they surf nothing alike
Hi guys
So many boards have similar dims. Even the Uber xl has similar dims. What would be the difference then?
Also how about a fcs h4 vid? Would be nice...
Guy Katz UD XL has similar DIMS but its not a fish.... rocker, Concaves, tail designs, outline shapes and curves..... etc. So many differences in each design and thats what makes each board model so unique. Surf boards are cool like that.... very rare to surf two boards and they feel exactly the same.. even if they are the same model, shaped by the same guy, and glassed at the same time. UD XL offers more performance in the pocket by design, the SF might carry a little more down the line speed.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks for the answer. Problem is for guys like me, it's hard understanding from board descriptions on the web all of the feature you list. Where I live I don't have the privilege of going to the shop and holding the board. So I can tell maybe for example an entry rocker exists, bit how does the Uber XL entry rocker compares to the sword fish entry rocker (this is just an example of course)
@@surfnshowreviews7777 here's an idea. I'm lost's website and also other manufacturers boards are devided into groups. I assume these groups have general attributes that are common. For example, with Lost the pj family will have the same general rocker, outline etc compared to say the pro-formance series. Maybe it's a good idea to have a vid that talks about these families of boards and the differences between them. Just a thought...
Guy Katz Watch my Pyzel Gremlin, Phantom, Ghost, Shadow reviews. Jon designed this family of boards exactly like your talking about. Lost has also done this with the Driver, Sub Driver, UBer Driver, Mini Driver, etc....
Noel hopes all good! Wondering about something. Have you ever tried your look alike kelly slater quad set up with that little trailer? 😁 Got to wondering as I watched the NVS fin video you did. I did order the LSF in lib . Did have to order it in 5'6 . took your advice. You said if you were in a predicament take the larger size... Im just about the exact size as You.. Can't wait. Curious too, will you review those NVS fins in the set up they suggested? you do an awesome job keeping us posted on the fins with the board reviews. Again thanks for your input and help adding to my quiver!!!
Natural Born Reeler I will be doing more fin testing on the NVS fins for sure. Yes I have tried a nubster on fin configuration like Kelly and it works great... a little more hold. That little nubster really keeps the board from sliding out with a Quad set up.... if that’s the set up your talking about?
Great review. Thanks you. I’m looking at this board. What’s size do you suggest. I’m 6.3 215 pounds. Early intermediate, been riding a move of a traditional fish and looking for something now with a little more performance. Surfing mostly punchy beach breaks from 2-6ft range. Thanks
nick Roughly 40-42 liters
nick Roughly 40-42 liters
Looks like you & Nate we’re throwing down expression sessions!!! Noticed that you both liked the thruster set up. Was curious if either one of you threw in a set of Kolohe Andino thruster fins? I’ve got a couple sets & I’ve been stoked on’ em! Nate’s ode to the review, was hilarious!!! As always, great review! Thanks for the stoke!
Shannon Young I’m sure the KA fin will go good
Great review. How wpould you compare it to the CI Rocket Wide?
Sorry, I see the answer below, thanks.
Great review! Is this pretty much a lost version of a fish beard? Thanks for all your work.
hardt115 Not really... the FB is a Twin Fin only.. They surf nothing a like either.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Noel, can you expand on that? Assuming that the fishbeard is a fish version of the neckbeard, which is super high performance in smaller-ish waves, I would think it would combine the best of both worlds (performance shorty and twin fish). How does it differ when you're riding from the swordfish. Thanks
@@cwr8618 The FB is a Twin Fin (2 boxes only) and comparing a board like the Swordfish that comes with a 5 fin option to a Twin Fin is never a good comparison in my book. I understand what your saying about the FB and SW outline looks close but the fin box position alone on the SF is most likely to far forward (making the SW super Loose) to be considered a Twin Fin deign. I am sure there is more to be said about that but I am not a Shaper..... The other point I want to make is.... surfing a performance Twin Fin will never feel or respond like a Thruster... that center fin in a Thruster changes everything.
Really the only similarities between the FB and SF is there high Performance outline (Pointed Nose) and sleek stretched outlines for the word "Fish" to be in their names. The NB2 is a small wave performance board converted to a performance Fish in the FB, and the RNF Retro (Round Nose Fish) converted into a high performance Fish called the Swordfish. I personally like the idea and concept of both of these two boards and I hope to see more models like this coming and create their own category.
Great review. Does 1 inch make that much of a difference? At the end of the day that's only as long as my thumb.
1" in length makes a big difference. When you add 1' in length they usually add a little more width and thickness. That width and thickness plus 1" in length added 1 extra liter in float. The extra width offers more speed and glide, and that little extra thickness allows me to push harder through my turns. I have come to the conclusion that if I gain 8-10 pounds of weight to my frame then I will need to add 1 Liter more foam to offset the foam - performance ration that I like. So yes the 1" is a big deal when you want to maximize performance. The Pro's are way more sensitive.... they freak over 0.5" longer.
Great thank you for that feed back. I have learnt more now & its importance ;)
What's your opinion on Lost Driver 2.0 vs Pyzel Shadow? feel like theyre similar boards. love the reviews!
Philip Bliss The Driver 2.0 is faster and shreds 2-4’ surf better so far. I have not surfed the Driver 2.0 over 4’ yet. The Driver 2.0 is the best HPSB I e surfed in 2-4’ surf to date
What fins are best with this board?
Keegan Mcgann I always put the fins I recommend in each board review. Just watch the review....
Surf n Show Reviews ok
Do you add wetsuit weight when calculating volume?
marcus jonathon Not for where I live... if I were wearing a 5/4/3 Wetsuit with 5mm gloves and boots then I would add 1 liter to my normal dims.
Man I do. I ride boards that are 2 litres more in the winter. Mind you I'm no pro and I have a full time job but doing that has really made my winter surfing way more fun. 35L in boardies 37 in a wettt
Can you review the lost sabotaj?
Hey Noel - how would you compare this board to the rad ripper? I'm wondering which one you consider more high performance...great review, appreciate the content, stay well!
I am a previous owner of a Rad Ripper and it seemed like I always had to put my weight on the tail to control the Ripper. My opinion now that I own a Swordfish it blows the Rad Ripper away. My weight 175 lbs and Height 5'11" Swordfish dims 5'7" • 19.25 • 2.38 • 28.5L Rad Ripper dims 5'8" • 19.5 • 2.38 • 29.8L.
@@DavidOfTheSouth The largest I have tried mine in is 2 to 3 feet overhead surf and it handled it fine. Honestly, I’m not sure what the surf height limit is for this surfboard.
@@DavidOfTheSouth I use large futures legacy series neutral template and a quad similar to the reactors.
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Awesome stuff as usual noel, have you got your hands on a el tomo yet?
Hi Noel, I am one of your biggest follower/fan but I need some help or recomendarion. I want a board for the 1-4 feet range for the summe in Puerto Rico. I tend to surf high performance board but i been thinking about a different model/style and I been looking at the following-
Forewire Seaside, Firewire Glazer, lost Sworsfish or Lost pocket Rocket or Pyzel Astro Pop. Any recomendations is greatly appreciated
Do you think the SF would be a good choice for double overhead barrels in Indonesia?
indosurftours Not really... I would take the Whiplash or Ghost
Surf n Show Reviews// thank you Noel! It’s a pleasure to have someone like yourself taking there time to give us such valuable feedback. I’m 45 and spent years guessing and searching for that one magic stick. Need to collaborate together on a boat charter in the mentawais. Can do a full indo segment on boards and fins in all kinds of conditions🤙
One of the best episodes😂
Hi Noel love the show and thanks for all the effort you put in. How would you compare this to the ci fish beard
Chris Andrews Similar outline but they surf completely different. Hard to compare a Twin Fin to a Thruster , Quad, or even a Twin + Trailer.
Amazing review Noel! how do you compare the Swordfish to the Lost Rocket redux? thanks!
miguel lopez Both fast with good performance but the Swordfish is a performance Fish. The Rocket Redux surfs more like a sleek high performance Puddle Jumper.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Hey Noel! I have a Hydra and Rocket Redux currently. Looking for one more board for the quiver as a daily driver (I live in Santa Barbara and the conditions in town vary a lot - very rarely does it get over 7'). Would you recommend a Swordfish over other boards like the Pyzalien or Hayden Untitled?
@@forbiddenbeat Pyzalien 2
Whats the difference between to the swordfish and the fishbeard?
Great review. I am intrigued about the other 4 boards that make Nate's top 5. Any idea?
Great review ! Do you prefer the option A or option B center fin?
alec brower Not sure what options your talking about
Great review and Nate's song was epic lol
Hey Noel, how does this compare to the Psycho Killer?
Ardy Aryan The Swordfish is faster and shreds smaller waves better. The PK is best in 3-6’ surf and feels more like a HPSB with a wider nose.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thank you! I've been thinking of getting a PK for a while, now this video changed everything haha!
Hey Noel, which traction pad did you use?
xANDRExFLC Creatures Jack Freestone
Thanks for the quick reply. I know the pad needs to be as far back as possible on a fish, so I was curious if you were using a “fish style” pad. Glad to see any pad works
xANDRExFLC No.... most fish pads don’t have a arch bar and a tall enough kick for my likings.
Surf n Show Reviews could you recommend an FC2 fin setup for it?
xANDRExFLC Raked template get the Kolohe’s, Pivot set I suggest Reactors. My choice would be Reactors
swordfish vs seaside and why?
Will Davis SF equals better performance due to it having Thruster option for better pivot and longer rail line for more drive through turns. Seaside equals more speed and glide and better paddling.
this is so on point, nailed it. tnx
What about this board in libtech?
Never tried the Lib Tech
Is this board is fish? Or hybrid?he surf like shortboard
surfer Performance Fish with a performance outline
@@surfnshowreviews7777 you look bettr on u.driver xl
crazy, love it
Great channel!
Let’s get Nate on American Idol!
Haha legend!
Nate rocks hard
Yeww classic 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
@15:00 Nate be singin
Why do people say 4ft Hawaiian? Surely even the Hawaiians are calling that 6ft+
Nah that's tiny for HI standards. Nate may have even overcalled it a bit.
I'll never understand why Hawaiians thinks they're so special that they get to redefine what 1 foot is. Units of measurement are objective, no subjective, and to make them subjective defeats the whole purpose of them in the first place.
@@ElevenEightNate they say it's the back of the wave that determines size. also the surf is better than most regions in the world, rich vs poor mentality.
Gents i know a few years old now forgive for being late to the party! 😂
If you had to choose between the rnf 96 and the SF which would you go for as a daily driver please? Pretty sure you class them as such thanks noel for a great show as always 🤙
@surfnshow
Hi Noel, I am one of your biggest follower/fan but I need some help or recomendarion. I want a board for the 1-4 feet range for the summe in Puerto Rico. I tend to surf high performance board but i been thinking about a different model/style and I been looking at the following-
Forewire Seaside, Firewire Glazer, lost Sworsfish or Lost pocket Rocket or Pyzel Astro Pop. Any recomendations is greatly appreciated
Seaside... it’s fast and grovels well.
Thank you very much