I'm a woman, and yes, I am able to man handle a Harley at 5' 4"! 🤣🤣 Just test road a 2024 Breakout yesterday and am taking the plung to add to my HD collection! Super nice bike and an easy rider as far as Harleys go. The weight distribution is perfect and is not top heavy whatsoever. The weight carries mid to low! I also can't get over the sweet look - very clean and mean for this Biker Babe!
Bought a Breakout 114 in 2021, after 40 years of riding all kinds of bikes. My first Harley. I rode it to Germany in June, loaded with luggage and wearing a Kriega rucksack. I averaged 250 miles per day with 80 miles between stops. At 60 years, that’s enough. No back ache and very comfortable riding position. I hit a log on the motorway at 40 mph. It did not upset the bike, really stable. Probably would have brought a lighter weight bike down. Very engaging bike, always keeps me interested. I love my Breakout!
I rode a soft tail 7000 miles across the USA during April 2019, so I feel I am qualified to comment. The first hour of each day was enjoyable, the torque, the noise, the acceleration. The rest of the ride was an uncomfortable, back-breaking slog. The trip was fantastic, but I was so happy to hand it back to Eagle Rider when I finished, knowing I never had to ride such a prehistoric, slow, heavy, poor handling thing again. Back in the UK my daily ride is a Triumph Sprint GT, I'll stick with that.
I averaged about 250 miles a day, so about 5 hours of actual forward motion. The discomfort and back ache set in before the first hour was done. Then I would have to wriggle about or pause to stretch. As a comparison, I did 1000 miles in 15 hours on a BMW K1200 and only had to stop for fuel and coffee. The Harley was still the correct choice, just for credibility. But next time I will take a BMW. Just a note, I flew out to the states just to do the trip. My normal tours are all around Europe. @@davidpowelson4817
I love this paint scheme, and those are some of the coolest looking wheels I've seen on a factory bike. What a beaut! I think part of the reason there is only one caliper on the front wheel is so you get that clean, unspoiled "kick stand pose" look at the front wheel.
Out of all the motorcycles that I have owned (more than 25) the Harley gets the most positive attention when getting fuel or at a lunch stop. Can't figure that out, also you do get used to the turn signal buttons after a bit of riding. It is like riding a John Deer tractor which makes things different but fun. Great review Andy!
Just test rode one of these in Los Angeles. Awesome! Looks 10x better in person versus on camera. Loved it, and I’m not into cruisers as a general rule.
Another great Harley is the Street Bob 114. Mid foot controls and no chrome to polish. Higher bars and lovely engine. I broke my hip a few months ago and sold it as heavy to push around the garage. I’m now riding a Triumoh T100 and enjoying that. It’s all good fun!
I own 2022 Breakout myself which is the previous generation model. I do like the amount of chrome that is added on this one but cruise control, 117 engine are the highlights of this model. I saw your previous review and it helped me to make a decision but I couldn't be happier with the Breakout. I am not very loyal to the brand but love the looks and the character that the bike has.
Fabulous motorcycle! One of my all time favourites! The very same bike i had earlier this year. I think I may have left my knickers under the seat 😉 Great to hear your thoughts on such a beautiful motorcycle 👍🏼👍🏼
I own two HD as well as Italian and British bikes. The Harleys are the only one that are fun to ride at low speed. On many bikes the fun starts at 140 kph. I can go cruising, no stressed and enjoy life in the slow lanes. Horses for courses as the saying goes..I think.
I test rode the Breakout after the Fatboy, and preferred the latter. I found the seat more comfortable, the suspension softer and the foot controls easier with the footboards. The larger speedo was easier to read but the downside is with a fullface helmet the chin guard blocks the view as the speedo is on the tank. Otherwise, completely agree, the HD defo puts a smile on your face and I imagine is great for a Sunday brunch run when the weather is good ... would hate to have to clean and polish those beasts!!
I must say, I've never been a fan of this iconic brand but this model will make a great boat anchor. Loads of chrome will protect it from rust and corrosion while it's on the ocean floor and it will be easy to see underwater if not too deep. The round wheels will make it a breeze to simply roll overboard and there's plenty of spots to attach your rope to so your boat doesn't float away. The long handlebars will assure good grip on the sea bed.
Awesome looking bike and as usual an honest and to the point review. I have been riding Harley's for many years and can say the new Softail chassis is a winner for me. I ride a 2019 FXLR and love the bike to bits, we've ridden all over New Zealand on it, gravel included, no problems whatsoever. 😁
Good to see a Harley tested. Inspite of the criticisms of Harleys within the biking community (out of ignorance in my opinion!) they remain a very engaging motorcycle to ride. I would love to see you test the Harley Sportster S in the future as that model is actually getting new riders into Harley Davidson motorcycles.
Great review, always feel your H-D reviews are fare and honest which is a breath of fresh air (no preconceived prejudices) Harley's Breakout is a truly beautiful looking bike, you probably won't get your knee down on one (unless u fall off) and you won't be going toe to toe with a well ridden Street Triple on the twisties however what you will have is a huge grin on your face every time you take it out for a 'spin' ,its smiles per mile quota is off the scale and that alone is a good enough reason to own one.
Yes, I’m a liker, it’s the minimalist tech and simplicity of the design that appeals to me. My favourite is the last of the 883 irons. Old school simplicity.
Had a Harley a couple of years ago lovely for a cruise around, like you say Andy no such thing as a bad bike it use to put a smile on my face !!! Keep up the great vids 👍
Lovely looking bike, and unmistakable Harley sound. Love the dashboard set into the bars look, and totally agree more manufacturers should do similar layouts. Maybe 35 years ago.......
Hi Andy, enjoyed the Harley Review, and what a glorious day it was to be out on two wheels it heartens the soul, and I have to say the older I get the more I understand and like Harley's, it is a good looking bike. Thank you.
I am not an HD fan usually because of the weight, cost, difficulty to keep properly clean, vibration and riding position but that is a very beautiful bike Andy. Great vid. 👍
The rake has been extended, ever such a little, but on the Breakout it seems to make a massive difference with handling. The 117 seems to be far more nimble....even with that lovely big rear 😊
Looks great but I think I’ll stick to having a picture on the wall. A perfect case of form over function to me, I can’t imagine that riding position for any length of time, and the weight and price put me off. Good honest review as always!
What a lovely bike Andy! 😍 I bought the first Breakout version in 2013 and absolutely loved it. Have to say I thought this might have been your new bike purchase... 😃
I come from a line of Japanese sports tourers and now have a 2002 Fatboy. I am growing to love it, but it took a good chunk of acclimatisation; and oddly loves to be ridden hard. I used to try for the ol' knee down antics on my old 600, but there was forever a car or bus or speed camera just ahead; and my rides on the Harley are every bit as fast in the real world
Exactly - today's roads sadly aren't much use for the full performance of a modern sportsbike or hyper-nakeds...speed isn't the main draw for a road bike for me.
Definitely agree with you on what these bikes are all about. These bikes are very customisable,so if you don’t like say the drag bars and prefer some big fat Harley chisel bars on pullback risers,you can do it. The other one I’d look at is the Sportster S.
Andy! I love how you can see the good in things. Optimism. I’m not a HD fan but I feel like I can accept that many people love them. I was thinking how funny it is that they market it as a 117 (assuming it refers to displacement in Cubic inches?). If it is cubic inches that converts to nearly 2,000 ccs! I have to admit I do like the iPhone footage of the look around better than the GoPro footage. Thanks for all you do. I struggle to do two videos a month and you crank them out faster than I can watch them! 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Another great review, thank you so much. My only comment to make is being a current Harley owner and riding one of these bikes from one end of the city through rush hour to the other has you pulling your hair out. Amazing on an open road but anywhere else where it’s stop and go is a chore. You really need to commit to the lifestyle. I just don’t see to many realistic rides through urban areas on a 700lb plus bike.
I used to be a Harley owner for 20 years. And I could be one in the future again. I liked the Superglide. Don't think they have it anymore. I really liked the lowdown grunt. Not so much handling due to sportier ridingstyle. And the brakes! (I laughed when they introduced ABS!) So therefore you find me on a KTM today. Lowdown grunt, high rpm and superb handling with super brakes. It's funny with Halrey's, minimalistic speedo, hidden wiring and suspension and the rest is botox! I think that some of the negatives about this brand is not so much the bike/brand itself. Thank you mr Flyer! Really happy when I saw you pulling out your phone at the walk-around!
Sadly, I'm still one of those people who don't get Harley's. On the one occasion, I test rode one (a 2021 Street Bob), I didn't enjoy it at all. It was uncomfortable, with too much vibration, poor handling, inadequately braked and with power and torque, which was negated by the slow agricultural gear change. For some reason, we're all expected to make allowances for the failings (character?) of these bikes, simply because they're Harley's. If we considered them using the criteria on which we judge other bikes, they wouldn't fair well at all. It always seems that things that would be regarded as faults on a bike by any other manufacturer, are dismissed as character on a Harley and were told we should adjust our riding style to accommodate them. I'm not anti- cruiser, by the way. I've owned and enjoyed a Speedmaster 1200 and loved the two Indians that I've ridden, but the idea of spending the same amount on one of these as, say a Rocket 3, seems madness to me.
Harley have been bailed out for decades by the American government and saved from closure times over. The brand is politically almost too big to fail. Fortnine did a video about it.
I gave a couple of Harley's a test ride a couple of decades ago and back then I thought they were overweight, over priced and over here! The salesbod asked what I thought of them when I returned from my test rides. "Well, they don't go, don't stop and don't handle but they look great parked up" was my reply. So I'm in the don't get them camp I'm afraid. They're very expensive for what they are (maybe that's all part of it?) but if they float YOUR boat then great, it's still a bike afterall. The bit I don't get is IIRC if you have original HD screaming eagle parts fitted by your HD main dealer (which many owners do) it immediately invalidates the factory warranty. One passed me in the other direction last year through a village near me on a brand new one with Apehanger bars, the rider was in full HD corporate gear complete with open faced helmet and shades. As it went past it actually hurt my eardrums. I just thought he was a c**k, and no better than the race pipe brigade who give motorcycling a bad name but hopefully he's in the minority.
I used to ride these for a Harley tour company, taking tourists for their "Harley experience" here in NZ. The punters loved it. Lots of selfies, but I found it a real chore taking novice pillions on a very weighty and expensive machine around the winding coastal roads here. As much fun as hauling an old Bedford around if you didn't buy in to the hype. . Lovely soulful motors, though. So if you are charmed by the engine, but want a much more rideable bike, grab a ride on a Yamaha MT-01. Not the mystique, but much more fun.
Another great, honest video. I love the Breakout. Amazing machine. If I may make a suggestion to you. Get on to your Harley Dealer and ask them to lend you a Harley Road King. Amazing machine. The Road King is my favorite. Knowing how much you enjoy big touring bikes I think you will appreciate the ride and simplicity of the bike.
I've owned two Harleys and recently converted to a GSA,the two things that I didnt like was polishing the chrome, I lived close to the beach and you'd go for a 1/2 day ride and would take you all day to clean it if you didn't take prompt care rust would set it within a few days,2nd was you didn't want to ride it down a bad road for fear of rock chips on the paint or chrome, and like my brother would always say,nothing sounds like a Harley,especially if it had louder than stock pipes,decent resale if you keep em up
Along with buying a Harley you get the lifestyle as well, my friend has a Harley and being a member of the owners club he’s always away on trips. So far this year he’s been to Ireland, Hungary and in a few weeks he’s of to Scotland, all organised by the owners club.
I agree with most of what you say. I have a 2017 last of the 103 cubic inch and it’s a lovely bike for riding around on all ways puts a smile on my face. One thing you didn’t mention is the second hand prices I don’t think the depreciation is a bad as other bikes i have seen dealers asking15.5k a 17 bike and I only paid 17k for mine 6 years ago.
That's a gorgeous bike. My 1978 Harley Davidson Superglide had indicator buttons on both sides,but you had to keep them pressed as the second you let go the button the indicators stopped,better than Japanese bikes of the time which didn't have self cancelling indicators. I love Harleys,always have,but I can't afford one now & to be honest @ 71,I'm not sure I'd want to ride these days. Must admit Andy,I didn't have you down as a Harley fan going on your usual choice of bike.
For those of us who have ridden H-D bikes hundreds of thousands of miles, "oddities" such as turn signals on each side, scraping pegs, and vibrating mirrors are things that we are accustomed to. The Motor Company has always had to walk a fine line between practicality and/or style. The Breakout is a major statement for American Style so little things like a single disc up front is so that the $1,000 front wheel can shine in the sun. We "Brawny Blokes" just get use to squeezing that front brake lever a little harder when hauling that ginormous hunk of iron to a stop when Bambi jumps out of the trees. I love all of my bikes, but I will always have a Harley, or two, in the herd.
Great vid as always Andy. Sure is a beaut, it’s just the increase in price that I find unfathomable. My Iron was £8k in 2013 and I was set that the next would be a Heritage at £17k or Road King which were priced at £17600, the ultra limited was £24k at the time. The Heritage is now £23k, RK £24,5 and the Ultra £29 grand. My wages sure haven’t increased that much in that time. Be intrigued to see you test a full Harley tourer against your Goldwing. I always think of T.E Lawrence’s musings about racing planes on his Brough when I’m riding my black Sportster round Kent with Spitfires flying overhead, with the pushrod V-Twin and the grin on my face, despite a century dividing us it’s that freedom, the speed and sounds that makes ppl like us tick that’s utterly relatable.
Just came off a two-week tour of BC, Alberta and Montana with my buddy’s girlfriend and others she has a 114 soft tail and loves it. But that type of HD are Soft tail Cruisers. Older versions are called Dyna - Glide just a bit chopped with soft tail not hard tail, but definitely hard ass back in the early days of Dyna- Glides.
Hi Andy. I enjoyed the review although I am not particularly a cruiser fan, but I can see the attraction. The 117 looks awesome. Harleys now have a neater cleaner look now, tucking all the wires away more clean looking and the quality looks up there. For £24k it needs to be.
I was one of those "I will never own a Harley" people. I have my '18 Street Triple and decided I needed to add a bike I didn't feel like I needed to go 100+ (mph) every time I rode. Ended up 2 years ago getting a HD Sport Glide in white after test riding it. I've put several thousand $$ into it to make it mine including a slip on exhaust that is loud as it originally sounded like a sewing machine.
I think the Breakout looked better a few years ago. But I haven't seen the new one in person. I also think that the older one had a longer rake but I could be wrong. I rented a Sportster 48 in Hawaii and it was awesome! It's all the power you need.
Love it. I see what you mean as regards the digital cluster - very neat and tidy. I did always like the massive great speedometer on the tank, but am definitely warming to the new bar-mounted job. Excellent review, as ever.
But it's more than the sum of it's parts - that's my point, it shouldn't (and indeed largely doesn't) work - but it puts a grin on your face and you can't help enjoy it. A bit like a Moto Gutless....
I owned a Breakout 114 for 4 years. Overall I really liked it and you do quickly get accustomed to those indicator switches. They’re not perfect, as you say in the review, but they do put a smile on your face. When it was time for change, I tried the 117 Breakout, but it was too similar. Also, I hated that new air cleaner - banged my shin on it almost immediately. And then there’s the price! As you said, very expensive for what you get. Especially when compared to a Rocket 3 R. So guess which I bought. Yep - I’m a Triumph fan boy now.
You and your mics! I wanted the BO, but the Dealer would not deal any on one. I ended up with the '23 fat bob 114 and I only got bent over about 1/2 of the way.
Having owned 3 HD's plus numerous sports bikes since 1982 i can agree with you Andy. Its a beautiful bike. Definitley needs a set of Vance & Hines pipes or similar. The noise is what its about as it gives it the distinct "Potato Potato" sound. I dont like all the current HD models but the Breakout is superb in my and your opinion. Against a Rocket 3, see which one will hold its value the most after 5 years! I just sold my 2018 Triumph Boneville T120. This was a heavy bike too and felt heavy into bends. Where ever you go people give a positive reaction and want to talk about and photo it. You dont get that with an MT10.
Haven't rode one yet but find them beautiful. Good to know I won't fall asleep at the wheel, which a lot of bikes these days almost seem to guarantee with all of their rider aids, etc. Funny how divided people seem to be about how this bike handles. Some, like yourself, love it and are able to handle it without any problem (look mom, no hands! ... ha ha, no pun intended), while others really seem to struggle with it. Guess I'll just have to test ride one to find out which camp I fall in . . . really hoping it's the camp you're in ! P.S. It would be nice if you could do a comparison video with the Fat Boy.
Yeah, it’s gorgeous. I think it’s the wheels that really do it, as they transform the fatboy too. Those are the only two Harley’s I’d consider…..but they are works of art. We rented a fatboy to ride down the Florida keys, and it was perfect. Not great for the twisties in the south of France, well, not at any pace 😃 I think it would finish the dream garage nicely though 😍. I’d have this or a fatboy over the rocket any day.
I think it looks great, how it rides may be a different matter! I think a Rocket 3 is probably even more of an occasion. If money was no limit I would probably have a Harley, perhaps not this one! Great to see the variety on the channel Andy 👏👍😀🏍
Nice balanced review of a great bar hopper. If you want a Harley that has dual discs, mid controls, the same softail frame and engine as the 117 Breakout with a fairing and bags then take a Low Rider ST out for a spin, it just maybe might be your Harley of choice 😉
Not for me I'm afraid, not a fan of chrome everywhere. Spending your life cleaning a bike instead of riding it, 🤔and as you say the handling is interesting. No thanks. But once again I enjoyed the vid. Keep em coming Andy👍
The chrome is easy to maintain. If you’re not riding in the rain and mud, just a quick dusting before you go. I do that with any bike, black or chrome. The chrome shows dirt less than a black frame. FJB 🖕🇨🇳
Love the look of the breakout but the lack of ground clearance was too much for me. Went with the Fat Bob, similar ride, but loads of clearance for the bends and dual discs up front. Great review
I really like the clean lines, majestic appearance, good size fuel tank and its impressive sound. It's a real cruiser bike with the looks and feel to back this up. Rear vision mirrors are cool and as you say, "there is not much to dislike" (apart from the gawdy UK number plates which should be half the size). Nice review Andy.
I had a go of my mates Breakout a few years ago. I jumped off my T120 straight onto it, the difference was night and day. But it is a great looking bike and possibly one of the only HDs I’d own. I can’t get over how quiet they are in the UK, in Canada they sound like thunder! I could hear my mate from a mile away!
Thank you Mr. Flyer. I must say that's an impressive looking bike for sure. I can't see me riding one but large bikes don't suit my requirements for many reasons - riding preferences being only one. Live and let live is my philosophy, usually any biker over cars, vans and lorries. Shiny side up and enjoy biking. :>)
Gotta hand it to Harley when it comes to build quality and looks, that's a real looker. I don't want one, mind you, my Rocket Touring scratches my itch very well, but looks-wise they nailed it. Those handlebars are incredibly clean.
Like yourself I love all bikes and am lucky enough to have a 2018 Harley Low Rider and 2016 Yamaha R3 in the garage. Two totally different bikes, both great fun in different ways and I got the Harley from Superbike Factory at a great price, then service and MOT at local specialist.
“It shakes, rattles and rolls, It’s difficult to ride, it’s heavy, the handling is let’s say interesting”….lol, that will do me. Andy, it’s all yours. I have actually ridden a few HDs, the only one I even remotely enjoyed was a 1998 Fatboy. Not one for me I’m afraid.
@@TheMissendenFlyer but would you buy one? Who am I to talk, I bought an R18, probably a bike thats more maligned than the Goldwing and GS combined. But I love it and thats all that really matters. Keep up the good work
I do love the looks of HD. And have ridden a few, the old sportster being my favorite. I did own a street 750. Pulled like a tractor. It wasnt for me though. And got myself another T120. Again, thanks for the vid👍
I love all those ‘stigma’ bikes, another one or group of ‘stigma’ ‘bikes’ are scooters… I love them too, and I couldn’t give a toss what others think 😄 ride what makes you happy and stay true to yourself, what’s biking about after all, following the crowd? Or going your own way 🏍️
Only thing that annoys me is being snubbed when waving at the Harley crowd - they ignore you if you’re on any other brand !! That’s my personal experience though….
@@darylclifford possibly fed up of not being waved/nodded back by others… don’t get my wrong, the stigmas are there for a reason and you only need to go to a HOG meet to see it’s a particular crowd, it just doesn’t affect what I want to ride/own.
Love my Harley ultra for cruising road trips, just back from ice fields hwy. comfort , listen to tunes when you want. Great wind protection to make long days no problem. Rode from Alberta through ice fields back to Chilliwack which is just east of Vancouver,no problem just take your breaks. Just got a used 2017 BMW gsa love it too. just different bike. 😎🏍️💨💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦
A great bike Andy as are most HD softails and ive owned one for years. Sage words and great advice regarding the BS and stigma of some bike models and manufacturers 👏, I think a lot of new riders jump on the bandwagon without trying them first, listening to it is so dull and very tiring 😴 I agree bikes are bikes and I too love them all. Would love to see you review a Pan America Special at some point but make sure its a special with all bells and whistles on 👍If you get stuck you can borrow mine.
Great looking bike and great review! I ride a lithe and nimble z400 but in the future I might want to get a cruiser too, but almost 700 lbs and 20k.........
Morning Andy, the indicator buttons being on either end of the bars is something BMW used to do for a while on their 90’s bikes. Too much chrome for me and far too heavy. I’d need one of those old steam engine turntables installed on my drive to turn the thing round 😋
Cheers Andy, you made it easy for Harley fans to drool over this - excellent. It seems to me (and I may be wrong) that the source of all the Harley hate is two-fold: (1) a certain aging demographic of Harley riders that haven't moved with the times (which is a pretty stupid reason to hate the brand IMHO - or said riders for that matter!), and (2) the "premium" pricing model that HD seem to have doubled down on in recent years, meaning that all "blue-collar" aspirations have been replaced by a Gucci-type deal - yuk! My 2 cents :)
So apart from the dash you cant read in the sun, the mirrors that shoogle and the 25k price tag, it's not a bad looking bike! My problem with Harley riders is they seem to only wave at other Harley riders, the rest of us get blanked (in my experience) unless it's just me 🤔 Another good review Mr Flyer 👍
I suspect they don’t wave because they have got used to being ignored. If I’m on my Harley it seems to be only other Harley riders that return a wave, if I’m on the Enfield everyone waves back. If I’m on the Vespa, no one waves! The “kindred spirit” idea does seem to be dying out.
@davidkeppler56 I still wave or nod at every two wheel rider on the road, including Harleys, vespas, learners we're all bikers 🙂 it was just an observation. We all need to stick together, two wheels are better for your soul and the environment
Thank you very much for this review! I really do like your ideologically unencumbered approach to Harleys. I think the high purchase price is caused by the MoCo considering it one of their top offers in an otherwise totally bland lineup full of battleship grey/all blacked out boredom. I think it is about time now you went the way all Harley riders eventually go and try something from the Touring line.
I have to admit the big fairings on the Harley tourers mean they don't appeal to me one bit....not to mention that much "character" for me is the last thing a touring bike needs - I'll stick with my smooooth 6 cylinder GoldWing :0)
I'm in total agreement with your comments on the need to adjust your riding style with a Harley A while back, I was the proud owner of the XL1200 custom centenary edition, and I loved it. I sold it, and it was the worst thing I ever did. I will get around to getting another Harley soon when the funds improve. By the way, thanks for letting us know about how comfortable your buttocks were on the 117... 😅
I remember listening to a conversation, very good natured but full of banter, in a pub some 25ish years ago between a Goldwing rider and a Harley rider. The WingDinger eventually won the discussion by asking the Harley guy "If Harley-Davidson made an aircraft would you fly in it?" 🙂
I note on a lot of your test rides on cruisers with feet forward that it puts weight on your back and is only good for shorter rides. I would dispute this, and think it its down to the build of the rider how good the seat is etc. I have a back problem after a massive sciatica attack a few years back and unable to walk properly for months. I am 6ft 32.5 inch leg and ride a 2022 Speedmaster with the comfort seat, it has honestly yet to hurt my back and I have covered 11000 miles on it and generally ride for up to 5 hrs with a couple of stops for coffee which you want anyway. Any seating position for very long periods will become uncomfortable. Feet forward is also good for me with the onset of arthritis in my right hip. It all depends on your own build circumstances and preference, but to say this position is only good for 30 mins to an hour is somewhat misleading. Great vid enjoyed it thanks.
Fair enough Malcolm, I stand corrected - all I would say then is it’s no good for me personally for longer than an hour or so. Thanks for watching and for stopping by.
@@TheMissendenFlyer I did see one review somewhere, I think it was Matt Laidlaw, where he stated that this bike is best suited to 5ft 11/6ft riders and likely a little above. The low seat hight is often what confuses I think as that is good for small people to stride on to, but its really the seat surface to peg measurement that matters to suit leg lenth and the forward reach to the bars. I am also a life long pedal cyclist and in that game this is well understood. Its just stretching you out too much Andy. There are lots of bikes I have sat on that I would love to own, but they just dont fit me, and rear set pegs are out of the question as I would be in agony. Thanks for the reply.
Great review TMF. It's indeed a beautiful bike & totally get the appeal in my older age now. It's one of my favourite looking Harley's after checking out their range. However it's eye wateringly expensive & aside that I have zero chance of affording one, I just couldn't & wouldn't have one as my only bike.
No I agree - for me it's a piece of automotive art that would be a luxury to own and look at more than to actually ride! ....unless you live in a country with wide straight roads, then it's fine....
twin discs wouldn't make the front brake any better - because of weight distribution - the back brake works because theres plenty of weight on the back wheel and it has a low CG so low weight transfer - unlike a sports bike - so yes USE BOTH BRAKES !!
"...I actually love all motorcycles..." the mark of a true connoisseur.
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I'm a woman, and yes, I am able to man handle a Harley at 5' 4"! 🤣🤣 Just test road a 2024 Breakout yesterday and am taking the plung to add to my HD collection! Super nice bike and an easy rider as far as Harleys go. The weight distribution is perfect and is not top heavy whatsoever. The weight carries mid to low! I also can't get over the sweet look - very clean and mean for this Biker Babe!
Sounds good to me Kirstie! Lovely bike that….
Bought a Breakout 114 in 2021, after 40 years of riding all kinds of bikes. My first Harley. I rode it to Germany in June, loaded with luggage and wearing a Kriega rucksack. I averaged 250 miles per day with 80 miles between stops. At 60 years, that’s enough. No back ache and very comfortable riding position. I hit a log on the motorway at 40 mph. It did not upset the bike, really stable. Probably would have brought a lighter weight bike down. Very engaging bike, always keeps me interested. I love my Breakout!
Cool!
A real beauty similar looking to the fat boy, very cool.
I rode a soft tail 7000 miles across the USA during April 2019, so I feel I am qualified to comment.
The first hour of each day was enjoyable, the torque, the noise, the acceleration.
The rest of the ride was an uncomfortable, back-breaking slog.
The trip was fantastic, but I was so happy to hand it back to Eagle Rider when I finished, knowing I never had to ride such a prehistoric, slow, heavy, poor handling thing again.
Back in the UK my daily ride is a Triumph Sprint GT, I'll stick with that.
What was your daily endurance for riding? How long could you reasonably ride before the discomfort set in?
I averaged about 250 miles a day, so about 5 hours of actual forward motion. The discomfort and back ache set in before the first hour was done. Then I would have to wriggle about or pause to stretch. As a comparison, I did 1000 miles in 15 hours on a BMW K1200 and only had to stop for fuel and coffee. The Harley was still the correct choice, just for credibility. But next time I will take a BMW. Just a note, I flew out to the states just to do the trip. My normal tours are all around Europe. @@davidpowelson4817
Picking mine up Saturday 😊
Congratulations!
I love this paint scheme, and those are some of the coolest looking wheels I've seen on a factory bike. What a beaut! I think part of the reason there is only one caliper on the front wheel is so you get that clean, unspoiled "kick stand pose" look at the front wheel.
Yes I imaginbe you're right....
Good looks - at the expense of inferior braking though, really?
@@darylclifford It doesn't go fast enough to need brakes!
Out of all the motorcycles that I have owned (more than 25) the Harley gets the most positive attention when getting fuel or at a lunch stop. Can't figure that out, also you do get used to the turn signal buttons after a bit of riding. It is like riding a John Deer tractor which makes things different but fun. Great review Andy!
Just test rode one of these in Los Angeles. Awesome! Looks 10x better in person versus on camera. Loved it, and I’m not into cruisers as a general rule.
Another great Harley is the Street Bob 114. Mid foot controls and no chrome to polish. Higher bars and lovely engine. I broke my hip a few months ago and sold it as heavy to push around the garage. I’m now riding a Triumoh T100 and enjoying that. It’s all good fun!
I can see something like this in Andy's garage some day!!
I own 2022 Breakout myself which is the previous generation model. I do like the amount of chrome that is added on this one but cruise control, 117 engine are the highlights of this model. I saw your previous review and it helped me to make a decision but I couldn't be happier with the Breakout. I am not very loyal to the brand but love the looks and the character that the bike has.
Good to hear! Thanks for watching....
Best looking Harley since the V Rod
Fabulous motorcycle! One of my all time favourites! The very same bike i had earlier this year. I think I may have left my knickers under the seat 😉
Great to hear your thoughts on such a beautiful motorcycle 👍🏼👍🏼
If only I'd realised!!
I own two HD as well as Italian and British bikes. The Harleys are the only one that are fun to ride at low speed. On many bikes the fun starts at 140 kph. I can go cruising, no stressed and enjoy life in the slow lanes. Horses for courses as the saying goes..I think.
I get that for sure Marc, thanks for watching.
I test rode the Breakout after the Fatboy, and preferred the latter. I found the seat more comfortable, the suspension softer and the foot controls easier with the footboards. The larger speedo was easier to read but the downside is with a fullface helmet the chin guard blocks the view as the speedo is on the tank. Otherwise, completely agree, the HD defo puts a smile on your face and I imagine is great for a Sunday brunch run when the weather is good ... would hate to have to clean and polish those beasts!!
Yes I loved the Fatboy….
I must say, I've never been a fan of this iconic brand but this model will make a great boat anchor. Loads of chrome will protect it from rust and corrosion while it's on the ocean floor and it will be easy to see underwater if not too deep. The round wheels will make it a breeze to simply roll overboard and there's plenty of spots to attach your rope to so your boat doesn't float away. The long handlebars will assure good grip on the sea bed.
Good luck getting it back onboard! 😁
Cheeky!
Chortle
@@jay26cee no need, you leave it there, lol
@@Africatwinrider1 ah, you meaning a mooring point. 😀
Basic bikes are great, but they should be priced accordingly. It's just sad contrasting this thing against the Rocket 3.
Especially when the Triumph is 3,000 pounds cheaper !!
Awesome looking bike and as usual an honest and to the point review. I have been riding Harley's for many years and can say the new Softail chassis is a winner for me. I ride a 2019 FXLR and love the bike to bits, we've ridden all over New Zealand on it, gravel included, no problems whatsoever. 😁
Good to see a Harley tested. Inspite of the criticisms of Harleys within the biking community (out of ignorance in my opinion!) they remain a very engaging motorcycle to ride. I would love to see you test the Harley Sportster S in the future as that model is actually getting new riders into Harley Davidson motorcycles.
Great review, always feel your H-D reviews are fare and honest which is a breath of fresh air (no preconceived prejudices) Harley's Breakout is a truly beautiful looking bike, you probably won't get your knee down on one (unless u fall off) and you won't be going toe to toe with a well ridden Street Triple on the twisties however what you will have is a huge grin on your face every time you take it out for a 'spin' ,its smiles per mile quota is off the scale and that alone is a good enough reason to own one.
Couldn’t agree more Ian!
You never buy a bike when you choose a Harley. You buy a way of life. A dream.
Yes, I’m a liker, it’s the minimalist tech and simplicity of the design that appeals to me. My favourite is the last of the 883 irons. Old school simplicity.
Problem today is people can’t think for themselves and need rider aids to stay alive. The art of control has gone.
I absolutely love my 883! Still my favorite bike!
I'm gonna buy one.
(Just as soon as I have a field that needs ploughing).
Had a Harley a couple of years ago lovely for a cruise around, like you say Andy no such thing as a bad bike it use to put a smile on my face !!! Keep up the great vids 👍
Thank you as ever - will do!
A big plus of course is if that white van at the end of the vid had pulled out on you, you'd ride straight through it. 😎
Yes that would be quite something wouldn't it....
Lovely bike to clean for hours with a cold beer 🍺
Clean the oil leaks😂😂😂
Lovely looking bike, and unmistakable Harley sound. Love the dashboard set into the bars look, and totally agree more manufacturers should do similar layouts. Maybe 35 years ago.......
Yes it's a great clean look isn't it!
Hi Andy, enjoyed the Harley Review, and what a glorious day it was to be out on two wheels it heartens the soul, and I have to say the older I get the more I understand and like Harley's, it is a good looking bike. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it Stephen - nice to hear from you again.
I am not an HD fan usually because of the weight, cost, difficulty to keep properly clean, vibration and riding position but that is a very beautiful bike Andy. Great vid. 👍
Yes I agree on all the downsides - but you can't deny they make a good looking bit of engineering!
The rake has been extended, ever such a little, but on the Breakout it seems to make a massive difference with handling. The 117 seems to be far more nimble....even with that lovely big rear 😊
Looks great but I think I’ll stick to having a picture on the wall. A perfect case of form over function to me, I can’t imagine that riding position for any length of time, and the weight and price put me off. Good honest review as always!
Another great review. Not every ones cup of tea, but there's no denying it looks superb.
What a lovely bike Andy! 😍 I bought the first Breakout version in 2013 and absolutely loved it. Have to say I thought this might have been your new bike purchase... 😃
I come from a line of Japanese sports tourers and now have a 2002 Fatboy. I am growing to love it, but it took a good chunk of acclimatisation; and oddly loves to be ridden hard.
I used to try for the ol' knee down antics on my old 600, but there was forever a car or bus or speed camera just ahead; and my rides on the Harley are every bit as fast in the real world
Exactly - today's roads sadly aren't much use for the full performance of a modern sportsbike or hyper-nakeds...speed isn't the main draw for a road bike for me.
Definitely agree with you on what these bikes are all about. These bikes are very customisable,so if you don’t like say the drag bars and prefer some big fat Harley chisel bars on pullback risers,you can do it. The other one I’d look at is the Sportster S.
Yes the Sportster is defo on my list….
Andy! I love how you can see the good in things. Optimism. I’m not a HD fan but I feel like I can accept that many people love them. I was thinking how funny it is that they market it as a 117 (assuming it refers to displacement in Cubic inches?). If it is cubic inches that converts to nearly 2,000 ccs! I have to admit I do like the iPhone footage of the look around better than the GoPro footage. Thanks for all you do. I struggle to do two videos a month and you crank them out faster than I can watch them! 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Thank you very much! ….and yes producing two videos a week without fail is harder than most would think…
Another great review, thank you so much. My only comment to make is being a current Harley owner and riding one of these bikes from one end of the city through rush hour to the other has you pulling your hair out. Amazing on an open road but anywhere else where it’s stop and go is a chore. You really need to commit to the lifestyle. I just don’t see to many realistic rides through urban areas on a 700lb plus bike.
I used to be a Harley owner for 20 years. And I could be one in the future again. I liked the Superglide. Don't think they have it anymore. I really liked the lowdown grunt. Not so much handling due to sportier ridingstyle. And the brakes! (I laughed when they introduced ABS!)
So therefore you find me on a KTM today. Lowdown grunt, high rpm and superb handling with super brakes.
It's funny with Halrey's, minimalistic speedo, hidden wiring and suspension and the rest is botox!
I think that some of the negatives about this brand is not so much the bike/brand itself.
Thank you mr Flyer! Really happy when I saw you pulling out your phone at the walk-around!
I aim to please!
Sadly, I'm still one of those people who don't get Harley's. On the one occasion, I test rode one (a 2021 Street Bob), I didn't enjoy it at all. It was uncomfortable, with too much vibration, poor handling, inadequately braked and with power and torque, which was negated by the slow agricultural gear change. For some reason, we're all expected to make allowances for the failings (character?) of these bikes, simply because they're Harley's. If we considered them using the criteria on which we judge other bikes, they wouldn't fair well at all. It always seems that things that would be regarded as faults on a bike by any other manufacturer, are dismissed as character on a Harley and were told we should adjust our riding style to accommodate them.
I'm not anti- cruiser, by the way. I've owned and enjoyed a Speedmaster 1200 and loved the two Indians that I've ridden, but the idea of spending the same amount on one of these as, say a Rocket 3, seems madness to me.
Harley have been bailed out for decades by the American government and saved from closure times over. The brand is politically almost too big to fail. Fortnine did a video about it.
I had a 2012 Wide Glide. It fit my 6'5" frame. I wonder if this would as well?
Currently riding a 1250gs. But I too love Harleys.
I gave a couple of Harley's a test ride a couple of decades ago and back then I thought they were overweight, over priced and over here! The salesbod asked what I thought of them when I returned from my test rides. "Well, they don't go, don't stop and don't handle but they look great parked up" was my reply. So I'm in the don't get them camp I'm afraid. They're very expensive for what they are (maybe that's all part of it?) but if they float YOUR boat then great, it's still a bike afterall. The bit I don't get is IIRC if you have original HD screaming eagle parts fitted by your HD main dealer (which many owners do) it immediately invalidates the factory warranty. One passed me in the other direction last year through a village near me on a brand new one with Apehanger bars, the rider was in full HD corporate gear complete with open faced helmet and shades. As it went past it actually hurt my eardrums. I just thought he was a c**k, and no better than the race pipe brigade who give motorcycling a bad name but hopefully he's in the minority.
Yes let's hope so.....
@TheMissendenFlyer I hate to say it, but the police need to write tickets for these illegal pipes. 😢
I used to ride these for a Harley tour company, taking tourists for their "Harley experience" here in NZ. The punters loved it. Lots of selfies, but I found it a real chore taking novice pillions on a very weighty and expensive machine around the winding coastal roads here. As much fun as hauling an old Bedford around if you didn't buy in to the hype. . Lovely soulful motors, though. So if you are charmed by the engine, but want a much more rideable bike, grab a ride on a Yamaha MT-01. Not the mystique, but much more fun.
I agree 100% - I appeciate the art and the engineering in a Harley, but not sure I'd actually buy one.....
Another great, honest video. I love the Breakout. Amazing machine. If I may make a suggestion to you. Get on to your Harley Dealer and ask them to lend you a Harley Road King. Amazing machine. The Road King is my favorite. Knowing how much you enjoy big touring bikes I think you will appreciate the ride and simplicity of the bike.
I just can’t get on with the looks of Harleys with fairings…
@@TheMissendenFlyer the Road King does not have a fairing. It has a detachable windshield.
I've owned two Harleys and recently converted to a GSA,the two things that I didnt like was polishing the chrome, I lived close to the beach and you'd go for a 1/2 day ride and would take you all day to clean it if you didn't take prompt care rust would set it within a few days,2nd was you didn't want to ride it down a bad road for fear of rock chips on the paint or chrome, and like my brother would always say,nothing sounds like a Harley,especially if it had louder than stock pipes,decent resale if you keep em up
Yes the resale values seem to really hold up dont they!
Along with buying a Harley you get the lifestyle as well, my friend has a Harley and being a member of the owners club he’s always away on trips.
So far this year he’s been to Ireland, Hungary and in a few weeks he’s of to Scotland, all organised by the owners club.
I agree with most of what you say. I have a 2017 last of the 103 cubic inch and it’s a lovely bike for riding around on all ways puts a smile on my face. One thing you didn’t mention is the second hand prices I don’t think the depreciation is a bad as other bikes i have seen dealers asking15.5k a 17 bike and I only paid 17k for mine 6 years ago.
Yes no matter what you think of them Harleys do seem to retain their value!
Only thing i was never comfortable with on the softails was the rear wheel offset which used to cause a slight pull when going straight.
My misses has a Street Bob and we have fitted a Muller Power Clutch to it which makes it much easier to pull the clutch lever.
That's a gorgeous bike. My 1978 Harley Davidson Superglide had indicator buttons on both sides,but you had to keep them pressed as the second you let go the button the indicators stopped,better than Japanese bikes of the time which didn't have self cancelling indicators. I love Harleys,always have,but I can't afford one now & to be honest @ 71,I'm not sure I'd want to ride these days.
Must admit Andy,I didn't have you down as a Harley fan going on your usual choice of bike.
Nice review buddy.. Come down and ride an old Harley.. it'd be a great comparison !
Cheers mate….you are very much on my “must visit” list…just finding any spare time is proving difficult!!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Ain't that the truth buddy..lol!
For those of us who have ridden H-D bikes hundreds of thousands of miles, "oddities" such as turn signals on each side, scraping pegs, and vibrating mirrors are things that we are accustomed to. The Motor Company has always had to walk a fine line between practicality and/or style. The Breakout is a major statement for American Style so little things like a single disc up front is so that the $1,000 front wheel can shine in the sun. We "Brawny Blokes" just get use to squeezing that front brake lever a little harder when hauling that ginormous hunk of iron to a stop when Bambi jumps out of the trees. I love all of my bikes, but I will always have a Harley, or two, in the herd.
Nice one!
Great vid as always Andy. Sure is a beaut, it’s just the increase in price that I find unfathomable. My Iron was £8k in 2013 and I was set that the next would be a Heritage at £17k or Road King which were priced at £17600, the ultra limited was £24k at the time. The Heritage is now £23k, RK £24,5 and the Ultra £29 grand. My wages sure haven’t increased that much in that time. Be intrigued to see you test a full Harley tourer against your Goldwing. I always think of T.E Lawrence’s musings about racing planes on his Brough when I’m riding my black Sportster round Kent with Spitfires flying overhead, with the pushrod V-Twin and the grin on my face, despite a century dividing us it’s that freedom, the speed and sounds that makes ppl like us tick that’s utterly relatable.
Just came off a two-week tour of BC, Alberta and Montana with my buddy’s girlfriend and others she has a 114 soft tail and loves it. But that type of HD are Soft tail Cruisers. Older versions are called Dyna - Glide just a bit chopped with soft tail not hard tail, but definitely hard ass back in the early days of Dyna- Glides.
Hi Andy. I enjoyed the review although I am not particularly a cruiser fan, but I can see the attraction. The 117 looks awesome. Harleys now have a neater cleaner look now, tucking all the wires away more clean looking and the quality looks up there. For £24k it needs to be.
Totally agree
I was one of those "I will never own a Harley" people. I have my '18 Street Triple and decided I needed to add a bike I didn't feel like I needed to go 100+ (mph) every time I rode. Ended up 2 years ago getting a HD Sport Glide in white after test riding it. I've put several thousand $$ into it to make it mine including a slip on exhaust that is loud as it originally sounded like a sewing machine.
Cool....
I think the Breakout looked better a few years ago. But I haven't seen the new one in person. I also think that the older one had a longer rake but I could be wrong.
I rented a Sportster 48 in Hawaii and it was awesome! It's all the power you need.
Love it. I see what you mean as regards the digital cluster - very neat and tidy. I did always like the massive great speedometer on the tank, but am definitely warming to the new bar-mounted job. Excellent review, as ever.
Never owned a Harley or ridden one and your opening comments it's heavy, shakes and has dubious handling is enough to convince I am not missing much.
But it's more than the sum of it's parts - that's my point, it shouldn't (and indeed largely doesn't) work - but it puts a grin on your face and you can't help enjoy it. A bit like a Moto Gutless....
Best looking Harley EVER.
I owned a Breakout 114 for 4 years. Overall I really liked it and you do quickly get accustomed to those indicator switches. They’re not perfect, as you say in the review, but they do put a smile on your face. When it was time for change, I tried the 117 Breakout, but it was too similar. Also, I hated that new air cleaner - banged my shin on it almost immediately. And then there’s the price! As you said, very expensive for what you get. Especially when compared to a Rocket 3 R. So guess which I bought. Yep - I’m a Triumph fan boy now.
Good man!
You and your mics!
I wanted the BO, but the Dealer would not deal any on one. I ended up with the '23 fat bob 114 and I only got bent over about 1/2 of the way.
Hey Buddy, that bike is such a cool muscle bike. Put a stage one with Vance Hines pipes and it comes alive. It delivers Americana Muscle.
Having owned 3 HD's plus numerous sports bikes since 1982 i can agree with you Andy. Its a beautiful bike. Definitley needs a set of Vance & Hines pipes or similar. The noise is what its about as it gives it the distinct "Potato Potato" sound. I dont like all the current HD models but the Breakout is superb in my and your opinion. Against a Rocket 3, see which one will hold its value the most after 5 years! I just sold my 2018 Triumph Boneville T120. This was a heavy bike too and felt heavy into bends. Where ever you go people give a positive reaction and want to talk about and photo it. You dont get that with an MT10.
Yes I can imagine that’s very true!
Haven't rode one yet but find them beautiful. Good to know I won't fall asleep at the wheel, which a lot of bikes these days almost seem to guarantee with all of their rider aids, etc. Funny how divided people seem to be about how this bike handles. Some, like yourself, love it and are able to handle it without any problem (look mom, no hands! ... ha ha, no pun intended), while others really seem to struggle with it. Guess I'll just have to test ride one to find out which camp I fall in . . . really hoping it's the camp you're in !
P.S. It would be nice if you could do a comparison video with the Fat Boy.
Yeah, it’s gorgeous. I think it’s the wheels that really do it, as they transform the fatboy too. Those are the only two Harley’s I’d consider…..but they are works of art. We rented a fatboy to ride down the Florida keys, and it was perfect. Not great for the twisties in the south of France, well, not at any pace 😃
I think it would finish the dream garage nicely though 😍. I’d have this or a fatboy over the rocket any day.
Yeah I think I would too….
I think it looks great, how it rides may be a different matter! I think a Rocket 3 is probably even more of an occasion. If money was no limit I would probably have a Harley, perhaps not this one! Great to see the variety on the channel Andy 👏👍😀🏍
Thank you!
I had the 114 in Vivid Black and loved it, it was my second bike for sunny days and certainly not a workhorse. Not a fan of the added chrome though.
Nice balanced review of a great bar hopper. If you want a Harley that has dual discs, mid controls, the same softail frame and engine as the 117 Breakout with a fairing and bags then take a Low Rider ST out for a spin, it just maybe might be your Harley of choice 😉
I’ve yet to see a fairing on a harley I like!
Not for me I'm afraid, not a fan of chrome everywhere. Spending your life cleaning a bike instead of riding it, 🤔and as you say the handling is interesting. No thanks. But once again I enjoyed the vid. Keep em coming Andy👍
Will do - thanks for watching!
The chrome is easy to maintain. If you’re not riding in the rain and mud, just a quick dusting before you go. I do that with any bike, black or chrome. The chrome shows dirt less than a black frame. FJB 🖕🇨🇳
@@barackblows1942 right back at you
I cant afford a GS adventure and a Harley, but if i could i would 100% have one in my Garage, GS won the choice award haha
Love the look of the breakout but the lack of ground clearance was too much for me. Went with the Fat Bob, similar ride, but loads of clearance for the bends and dual discs up front. Great review
Yes I loved the Fat Bob too - did you see my review?
Dual. A duel is a fight.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Yep, liked the quote: Built with hammers and spanners 😀
I really like the clean lines, majestic appearance, good size fuel tank and its impressive sound. It's a real cruiser bike with the looks and feel to back this up. Rear vision mirrors are cool and as you say, "there is not much to dislike" (apart from the gawdy UK number plates which should be half the size). Nice review Andy.
Couldn't agree more!
I had a go of my mates Breakout a few years ago. I jumped off my T120 straight onto it, the difference was night and day. But it is a great looking bike and possibly one of the only HDs I’d own. I can’t get over how quiet they are in the UK, in Canada they sound like thunder! I could hear my mate from a mile away!
Thank you for reinstating my love for Harley Davidson! Question is, would it handle the Nc500 in Scotland? Or a trip to Portugal?
Not with me riding no!
Thank you Mr. Flyer. I must say that's an impressive looking bike for sure. I can't see me riding one but large bikes don't suit my requirements for many reasons - riding preferences being only one. Live and let live is my philosophy, usually any biker over cars, vans and lorries. Shiny side up and enjoy biking. :>)
Gotta hand it to Harley when it comes to build quality and looks, that's a real looker. I don't want one, mind you, my Rocket Touring scratches my itch very well, but looks-wise they nailed it. Those handlebars are incredibly clean.
Aren’t they just!
I really like the low end torque of these cruisers. I'm riding a Yamaha Road Star at present that has a lot of grunt....
Like yourself I love all bikes and am lucky enough to have a 2018 Harley Low Rider and 2016 Yamaha R3 in the garage. Two totally different bikes, both great fun in different ways and I got the Harley from Superbike Factory at a great price, then service and MOT at local specialist.
Try the Low Rider S. Dual disks up front. Mid-mount foot pegs. Less rake for a bit lighter handling. And no chrome to polish!
“It shakes, rattles and rolls, It’s difficult to ride, it’s heavy, the handling is let’s say interesting”….lol, that will do me. Andy, it’s all yours. I have actually ridden a few HDs, the only one I even remotely enjoyed was a 1998 Fatboy. Not one for me I’m afraid.
Fair enough!
@@TheMissendenFlyer but would you buy one? Who am I to talk, I bought an R18, probably a bike thats more maligned than the Goldwing and GS combined. But I love it and thats all that really matters. Keep up the good work
I do love the looks of HD. And have ridden a few, the old sportster being my favorite. I did own a street 750. Pulled like a tractor. It wasnt for me though. And got myself another T120. Again, thanks for the vid👍
My pleasure Robert!
I love all those ‘stigma’ bikes, another one or group of ‘stigma’ ‘bikes’ are scooters… I love them too, and I couldn’t give a toss what others think 😄 ride what makes you happy and stay true to yourself, what’s biking about after all, following the crowd? Or going your own way 🏍️
Only thing that annoys me is being snubbed when waving at the Harley crowd - they ignore you if you’re on any other brand !! That’s my personal experience though….
@@darylclifford possibly fed up of not being waved/nodded back by others… don’t get my wrong, the stigmas are there for a reason and you only need to go to a HOG meet to see it’s a particular crowd, it just doesn’t affect what I want to ride/own.
Lovely look’n bike and that would be my colour (if I were in the market) not sure I could live with the chrome.
Nice review as always Andy
Nice review! I've read a lot of negative reviews of this bike, ironically mostly from Harley aficionados!
Isn't that weird!
Love my Harley ultra for cruising road trips, just back from ice fields hwy. comfort , listen to tunes when you want. Great wind protection to make long days no problem. Rode from Alberta through ice fields back to Chilliwack which is just east of Vancouver,no problem just take your breaks. Just got a used 2017 BMW gsa love it too. just different bike. 😎🏍️💨💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦
Great ride that - I did pretty much that this time last year....
I like the way it has "Breakout" on the top of the tank, just in case you forget what bike you're riding. Age comes to us all.... 😂
Tell me about it!
A great bike Andy as are most HD softails and ive owned one for years. Sage words and great advice regarding the BS and stigma of some bike models and manufacturers 👏, I think a lot of new riders jump on the bandwagon without trying them first, listening to it is so dull and very tiring 😴 I agree bikes are bikes and I too love them all. Would love to see you review a Pan America Special at some point but make sure its a special with all bells and whistles on 👍If you get stuck you can borrow mine.
I have a Pan America review coming soon! Stay tuned….
@@TheMissendenFlyer Excellent, I will look forward to that.👍
Great looking bike and great review! I ride a lithe and nimble z400 but in the future I might want to get a cruiser too, but almost 700 lbs and 20k.........
Morning Andy, the indicator buttons being on either end of the bars is something BMW used to do for a while on their 90’s bikes. Too much chrome for me and far too heavy. I’d need one of those old steam engine turntables installed on my drive to turn the thing round 😋
Yes that would be handy for my GoldWing!
Cheers Andy, you made it easy for Harley fans to drool over this - excellent. It seems to me (and I may be wrong) that the source of all the Harley hate is two-fold: (1) a certain aging demographic of Harley riders that haven't moved with the times (which is a pretty stupid reason to hate the brand IMHO - or said riders for that matter!), and (2) the "premium" pricing model that HD seem to have doubled down on in recent years, meaning that all "blue-collar" aspirations have been replaced by a Gucci-type deal - yuk! My 2 cents :)
Add an aftermarket cam, exhaust pipe and a Dyno tune; it really wakes up these Harleys
So apart from the dash you cant read in the sun, the mirrors that shoogle and the 25k price tag, it's not a bad looking bike! My problem with Harley riders is they seem to only wave at other Harley riders, the rest of us get blanked (in my experience) unless it's just me 🤔 Another good review Mr Flyer 👍
Been riding north of 50 years, still think waving is stupid, I don't really care that your riding a M/C.
I suspect they don’t wave because they have got used to being ignored. If I’m on my Harley it seems to be only other Harley riders that return a wave, if I’m on the Enfield everyone waves back. If I’m on the Vespa, no one waves! The “kindred spirit” idea does seem to be dying out.
@davidkeppler56 I still wave or nod at every two wheel rider on the road, including Harleys, vespas, learners we're all bikers 🙂 it was just an observation. We all need to stick together, two wheels are better for your soul and the environment
@@TheSlapheid I agree, I wave at everyone, I’m just glad you’re out on two (or three) wheels.
Thank you very much for this review! I really do like your ideologically unencumbered approach to Harleys. I think the high purchase price is caused by the MoCo considering it one of their top offers in an otherwise totally bland lineup full of battleship grey/all blacked out boredom.
I think it is about time now you went the way all Harley riders eventually go and try something from the Touring line.
I have to admit the big fairings on the Harley tourers mean they don't appeal to me one bit....not to mention that much "character" for me is the last thing a touring bike needs - I'll stick with my smooooth 6 cylinder GoldWing :0)
@@TheMissendenFlyer Then try a Road King. And you'd be surprised at the "character" differences compared to a Softail. But you do you.
motorcycling exuberance at its finest ! thanks for another top review - sounds like you enjoyed it as much as the fatboy !
….almost, I think the Fatboy has it for me…
I'm in total agreement with your comments on the need to adjust your riding style with a Harley
A while back, I was the proud owner of the XL1200 custom centenary edition, and I loved it.
I sold it, and it was the worst thing I ever did.
I will get around to getting another Harley soon when the funds improve.
By the way, thanks for letting us know about how comfortable your buttocks were on the 117... 😅
My pleasure!
I remember listening to a conversation, very good natured but full of banter, in a pub some 25ish years ago between a Goldwing rider and a Harley rider. The WingDinger eventually won the discussion by asking the Harley guy "If Harley-Davidson made an aircraft would you fly in it?" 🙂
Great questiion - I certainly would!
I note on a lot of your test rides on cruisers with feet forward that it puts weight on your back and is only good for shorter rides. I would dispute this, and think it its down to the build of the rider how good the seat is etc. I have a back problem after a massive sciatica attack a few years back and unable to walk properly for months. I am 6ft 32.5 inch leg and ride a 2022 Speedmaster with the comfort seat, it has honestly yet to hurt my back and I have covered 11000 miles on it and generally ride for up to 5 hrs with a couple of stops for coffee which you want anyway. Any seating position for very long periods will become uncomfortable. Feet forward is also good for me with the onset of arthritis in my right hip. It all depends on your own build circumstances and preference, but to say this position is only good for 30 mins to an hour is somewhat misleading. Great vid enjoyed it thanks.
Fair enough Malcolm, I stand corrected - all I would say then is it’s no good for me personally for longer than an hour or so. Thanks for watching and for stopping by.
@@TheMissendenFlyer I did see one review somewhere, I think it was Matt Laidlaw, where he stated that this bike is best suited to 5ft 11/6ft riders and likely a little above. The low seat hight is often what confuses I think as that is good for small people to stride on to, but its really the seat surface to peg measurement that matters to suit leg lenth and the forward reach to the bars. I am also a life long pedal cyclist and in that game this is well understood. Its just stretching you out too much Andy. There are lots of bikes I have sat on that I would love to own, but they just dont fit me, and rear set pegs are out of the question as I would be in agony. Thanks for the reply.
Great review TMF. It's indeed a beautiful bike & totally get the appeal in my older age now. It's one of my favourite looking Harley's after checking out their range. However it's eye wateringly expensive & aside that I have zero chance of affording one, I just couldn't & wouldn't have one as my only bike.
No I agree - for me it's a piece of automotive art that would be a luxury to own and look at more than to actually ride! ....unless you live in a country with wide straight roads, then it's fine....
twin discs wouldn't make the front brake any better - because of weight distribution - the back brake works because theres plenty of weight on the back wheel and it has a low CG so low weight transfer - unlike a sports bike - so yes USE BOTH BRAKES !!
Hi andy the break out is probably the only harly i would consider but at 6ft 4
Dont think id fit lol its to low hut a beautiful machine 😊