Buying a new HD 13 years ago was a dream come true. I continue to enjoy every mile. Too bad about the haters. Maybe they'll actually ride one some day.
I used to fall into the hater group from back in the 70's until into the 2,000's. Many of my friends up here had Harley's and in 2015 I bought my first one, a Dyna Low Rider. I loved it and year later moved up to a Road Glide. I had that one for several years and then in 2020 I changed to a Street Glide. I have since put over 32,000 km on that one. They are incredibly comfortable mile munchers. I also have a Bonneville for an around town and short trip bike.
That's right. I've owned a lot of bikes of different "genres" (my current stable includes an S1000RR and a Super Duke) and my '10 Fat Bob is one I still regret selling because it provided a unique and really pleasant riding experience. Comparing cruisers to sport/naked bikes is like comparing a '69 Coupe de Ville to an '02 Honda S2000...and I find it annoying that virtually all "mainstream" reviewers (unlike Missenden) do pretty much that...with the consequence that a lot of the people who listen to them never even give the bikes a chance.
I own a xr1200, the suspensions crap, brakes are terrible, motor lacks grunt and fuelling is horrible under 3k, thing shakes bolts loose and gearbox is bad. Will prob sell soon....
Harley Slim, and it's perfect for Back Road country rides. It's just a simple motorcycle without all the rider modes and other unnecessary gadgets. just the bike and the road
I do not own a HD and never will but I've ridden two of them, one well over 100 miles on curvy rural roads. Due (in part), to being hideously overweight, they don't go very fast and don't handle well, start dragging parts at very moderate lean angles, the brakes are mediocre (at best), the reliability is lower than average and the cost of a new HD is laughable. Here in the USA, lots of people ride them and that's fine, but I fail to see anything appealing about them.
Having owned 3 big Harleys since 1999, I agree with you about the attention you get when you're out on them. The comment "Oh what a lovely bike" is par for the course. I remember back in 2001 I parked my Road King Classic in St Albans and 2 old ladies came over to say how much they liked the bike and ended up talking to me about it for 15 minutes. There is not another bike manufacturer in the world who gets the same attention Harley Davidson gets. I just love riding them and listening to that slow revving V-twin engine with almost limitless torque. The gearbox neutral thing is normal on a new Harley. After about 1800 miles the gear change becomes significantly better and it drops into neutral with very little effort. I can't imagine not owning a Harley Davidson motorcycle, other than if I get to a point that I can't handle the weight, but then the new Sportster S which is about to be launched is only 200kgs... 😉
Graham i actually loved reading this, because its so interesting, i live in the states so almost universally the harley is seen as just another bike here, and when people pull up on triumphs those are the guys that get stopped and get asked all the questions (ive owned both brands and i never got stopped on the harley) so its funny to hear that over there, harley is the "exotic" gotta talk to that guy bike. You've got great tastes in wheels. Cheers for this.
@@ThirdMonarch Cheers! 👍 Harleys are more common nowadays in the UK than 10-20 years back when there were fewer about. They are seen here as a bit of a status symbol, I guess as a lot of the Celebrities/Movie Stars ride them. I suspect you must get some of this in the USA too. To me they look how a proper motorcycle should look. I like the slow revving low stress engine, the loud exhaust and the size and presents of the bike on the road. I also love the Triumphs. I have had a couple in the past (Daytona 600 & 955, plus a Bonneville). In fact my next bike will probably be a Speedmaster. It rides similar to my Softail Deluxe, but is significantly lighter...
@@grahamtricker4103 I do agree, that when people think of the word motorcycle they are probably thinking about a Harley Davidson in their mind. But I love that they are making an impact over there and it’s grown with time. The sound for me is what quintessentially makes a Harley, so I couldn’t agree more. The fact that they see the size of two wheeled tanks though definitely help haha! Well hey hopefully you’re keeping the Harley and having a triumph as well if that’s an option. The speedmasters are sweet. Bonnie’s will always be my favourite bikes looks wise but as far as cruisers: you nailed it with softails and speed masters. I wish there was a way I could send bikes over. I recently moved from Texas to the Midwest and am just a couple hours outside of Milwaukee, so harleys with low mileage and even lower prices are rampant here. You ever need eyes on the ground. Happy to help my friend.
I felt some of his emotion and cried. My dream has always been to have a Harley-Davidson, a Fat Boy. It was my father's dream but he passed away before and because of that I have not been able to fulfill that dream until today. Unemployed, with a family to raise and everything expensive here in Brazil, I'm sure I'll leave without having the pleasure of driving a Harley-Davidson. I was very happy with your emotion, congratulations.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Oh, and when it isn't illuminated, this does not mean it isn't in neutral, there is a neutral between third and fourth gears which doesn't light the idiot light.
Still have my grandfather’s old Softail Springer (FXSTS), and I think you’ve hit the nail on the head with this review. If somebody wants a sport bike, something like a Fat Boy just isn’t it. It’s more like the motorcycle equivalent to a convertible luxury car (like an F type convertible). Reasonably sporty-ish, but mostly a beautiful, fun feel-good machine for soaking up a lovely day. Great review
Easier way to find neutral is use ur foot to pull the gear in towards the bike aswell as lift it. Works for me. Also as a Harley rider, I nod at every bike I see. Scooters included! It’s us against the cars!
100% agree about non bikers loving the Harley. After I bought my Road King I had to change to an open faced helmet to make it easier to chat to the lovely little old ladies that wanted to talk to me every time I pulled up in a town centre.
I really like the way you edit these kind of videos. List videos and such tend to be a bit boring but the flow and rhythm you got here makes it a joy to watch. Thank you for the great content!
had it for 2years now, still cant find neutral on the fly and it is VERY practical for everyday use. I've ridden it everyday for 2years now, both on city rides and long 5000km tours and rides superbly
Next up a big Harley Davidson Ultra! Would be fun to see your take on it compared to your Goldwing. I like the Fat Boy too! Cheers! Nice review as always.
I have had a lot of motorcycles but I love my 2020 131" Fat Boy. You would love it even more with a 131" upgrade! Personally, I think the lack of love from other riders should be in your top-10 list of likes though.
The rear brake pedal on the big harleys was something to get used to when I got the Electra Glide. All my other bikes have brake levers, nice dainty things that you can manipulate with the balls of your foot. The Harley's is literally a pedal, like in a car. The brake is surprisingly strong once you learn to just pick your foot up off the floorboard and simply step on the pedal like you would in a car.
I had a Harley fifteen years ago and the self canceling indicators were great even then. What I didn't like was a rev limiter that cut in at under 5000 rpm. I also found the shiny bits corroded almost immediately if you didn't remember to wipe everything down after riding.
I invested in a Dynajet Power Vision which allows you to change the rev limiter, adjust low idle, correct decel pop among dozens of other functions. Worth every dime if you plan on keeping your HD.
Any bike 15 years ago would corrode or rust. Many other brands tried to copy HD in the looks and ridestyle. Also bikes with lots of chrome. I haven't owned any cruisers previously or a Harley for that matter, but the bikes I have owned you had to take care of and they also rusted in the hard to reach areas. My 2019 Harley has no rust even parked outside in the rain.
Ive been lucky enough to own 62 bikes over the years of most brands, I still have 3 of them. I seem to have a bike on average 1-3 years but I bought my Fatboy new in 2014 and 7 years later shes still with me. Every now and again I think about selling her but one ride always makes me reconsider and I arrive home with a smile.
Hey out there. I have a 2016 fatboy and it is the king of the road no problems just total enjoyment with almost 11000 miles on it its still a new bike 6 years later
Such a good video, and clearly not coming from someone who is biased. Even if Harley air cooled v-twin cruisers aren't your "cup of tea," nobody can deny that they are incredibly beautiful. And the sound of a Harley air cooled engine is unlike anything else on the road. I'm not a Harley rider, but I've stood up close to Harley bikes, and they exude a type of high quality beauty that no other bikes seem to have. Seeing them up close, in person, is different than seeing a photo.
Harley hit the nail on the head with the Fatboy. It's magnificent and I would love to have one. The company has turned right around and created a nearly perfect machine.......Sal : )
I used to go for Sunday rides out on the country roads here with my wife and people would always come a talk to us and ask for pictures. We had just a 883 Superlow, with mini apes and a windshield, but we really went some places Onsite that bike. Test rode the New 2022 Harley Heritage Classic in Red & Black. Amazing bike. The New Low Rider S with 117 just scared me.
I fell in love with a 1450 Fat Boy 2 weeks ago .I know chrome won't get you home , but the previous owner had it painted in a beautiful metallic green , and covered it with as much chrome as is possible .I wish I could put a pic of it on here .Its awesome . And its in my garage.
So glad you like the Fatty! Surprised that the forward controls didn't make your "hate" list. For me, that's what makes a Harley Davidson. Exhaust options are among the most kaleidoscopic of all bikes. Not gonna get the true potato sound though...once Harley went EFI, potato-potato said bye-bye!
Thanks for the extremely positive review for the Harley brand.The Softail’s are the pick of the bunch.Although the Fatboy has the edge with looks,by far best value is the Sport Glide.Similar looks,but easily detachable bags and fairing,and best Harley for handling .Worth a review at some point.
Nice review Andy, I swopped my panigale 1299s for a softail slim, best motorcycling decision in years. Now I can simply enjoy riding the bike rather than being taken for a ride
An honest broker approach to the bike Andy. I would try one, but a Harley isn’t on any wish list of mine. I don’t subscribe to the theory of bikers not nodding to Harley’s… many do…
I've just said IME it's the other way around I nod at Harley riders but they don't nod back... I think it's because they are concentrating so hard on trying to ride a heavy bike with a meager front brake 😉 joking apart they do look good but I've had a couple of test rides and couldn't get on with the brakes, no doubt my lack of riding skill but it didn't feel safe enough for me...
When I took my CBT, I was put at the front of the pack and there was a big bike meet on the IOW and every one of them gave a nod. I felt like the Churchill dog after that 😆
I changed from a ktm superduke 1290gt which was a great all round bike to a street glide 3 months ago. Yes it’s slower, heavier, vibrates more but I absolutely love it, in my mid 50s I decided I didn’t need 1301cc 170bhp, so wanted a more relaxed pace to look around, take the wife out and have something more analogue than the ktm, and it does all those things, wish I had got one years ago
Another balanced review thanks Andy! Personally I think the stigma is more to do with the association of Harleys to the American riders, hells angels etc who gave the bikes a bad name. As far as the engineering, design and styling of the bikes goes there certainly is no need for prejudice!!
Really pleased to see you giving a positive review of the H-D Fat Boy , you got it absolutely spot on, the Fat Boy is a beautiful looking machine, its a work of automotive art that will put a smile on your face every time you ride it, surely that is the reason you ride a bike (the grin factor) an excellent review , very fair and honest.
Thank you for the review. As I live in the US the Fatboy is not a large bike. My Indian Springfield (Think Road King) weighs 130 lbs more. Most of the baggers weigh near 900 lbs. If I bought a Harley. I’d either buy a Fat Boy or Road King. These bikes are cruisers not meant for the twisties so much but are reasonably comfortable, very visceral, and well mannered at low speeds owned a Yamaha Stratoliner before my Indian. Compared the Strat the Indian is very nimble. At 73 years of age the bulk may sooner be hard to manage and I will downsize. I don’t plan on quitting riding anytime soon They have plenty of HP and loads of torque which comes at low RPMs. I am surprised that it doesn’t have two discs up front. Thanks again and ride safe:)
Nice one! I really enjoyed watching this video mate! One year ago I also had the chance to ride a Fat Boy... ...the brakes were weak, the suspension rough, the handling not exactly effortless and I absolutely loved it! It such an amazing bike to experience! That engine!!! I sure hope I can ride one again sometime in the future - I failed to make a video back then ;)
Hey great to hear from you Vale!! Yes, I’m sure one of your videos of you ripping this around the twisters scraping the foot boards would go down a treat!! Hope you’re keeping well??
Hey great to hear from you Vale!! Yes, I’m sure one of your videos of you ripping this around the twisties scraping the foot boards would go down a treat!! Hope you’re keeping well??
I couldn't agree more. In the U.S., there is saying it rides like a pig. The fat boy isn't about performance. It's more of a biker life style and looking cool. BTW, great review.
I have just put 350 miles on my new Lowrider S Stage 1 with V and H Longshot Staggered pipes. I think it solves most all of the stuff you didn’t like about the Fatboy. Sounds great, goes like stink, twin discs up front so front brake is awesome (rear not so much!), but the thing that amazes me most is the handling which is borderline sporty! Great piece of kit and comfy too!
Haha, same here Baron, was eagerly awaiting TMF's final opinion on the bike myself, but to be fair, he looked like he'd fallen in love with it on his initial ride about six weeks ago. Great channel!
Here in the U.S. the stigma is somewhat deserved. I've lived in Sturgis, been on several poker runs from bar to bar, and even just yesterday had a pack of about 100 Harleys pass me while I was bicycling in the Rockies; the size of group that blocks intersections to all traffic, regardless of what color the light is, until all the bikes are through. For some, a Harley isn't just a bike, it's a lifestyle. A violent, made in America, leather jacket in winter lifestyle. Not all, just some.
Yes I can understand that - not something we have over here obviously, you rarely see more than two or three at a time...in fact you rarely see Harleys at all.....
Finding neutral while stationary with a running engine can be a pita, which is why I always try to get it while the bike is still rolling. However if you; > chuck it in first > turn off the engine > slight upwards tap without using the clutch > et voila..... 9/10 instant neutral
Excellent and honest review, well done and fun to watch. I'm in the process of buying a 2022 Fat Boy right now, the dealer is annoying, he's trying to take me to the cleaners so I've got to battle him tomorrow and I'm not looking forward to it. He'll have to bend or I'm walking away, hope that doesn't happen. Thank you, be safe brother. P.S. I've found finding neutral gets better with time and usage.
The big downside of belt drive is 'if' it breaks or needs replacing, (it is made the same as a timing belt on a car engine so it doesn't like oil/grease, dirt or objects like a small stone in it), it is a major job. The whole primary side has to come off (primary drive, all the clutch, then an inner cover, then there is a section of the swing arm pivot that needs to be removed, even with all the special tools it is a 4-5 hour job ( it took a friend of mine over 8 hours using improvised tools) and can't be done on the side of the road, and no, you can't put a joiner in, it is one piece. Nice review as usual, keep up the good work.
Great video yet again. With reference to the stigma to certain brands, I totally agree, riders are riders, but with the HD reference, I tend to find its the harley riders themselves who tend to lookdown at other riders. Not all, normally ones riding alone.
Howdoo TMF Yeah as a Harley rider myself i know the brakes aren't up to scratch if you come from sport bikes or the like, but 1st day on the Harley the one guy told me to remember to use both brakes and since then it has become habit. Then they work fine. And yes they are big and bulky and there is a stigma but after 6 years on mine i still grin like an idiot when i ride. And i actually use mine every day, i do not own any other mode of transport so mine is for commuting, short breakfast runs and long tours ll rolled into one. Loved the video and i especially love the outtakes at the end.
Great vid! I currently own an 18 GSA, 19 Speed Triple RS, 20 KTM 350EXC, and now a 21 Street Glide Special. Only fully realized the HD allure post-ownership. Now can't seem to get any miles on the others much any more. The sound, feel, and looks are simply unmatched.
Harley Really screwed up ending production of the Vrod..It was fast,dependable and beautiful..Ive owned 3 muscles..loved all of them..Decided to try a fatbob..I want my Vrod back...lol
one of the best things about the bike is you can make it yours with multiple engine upgrades i did mine from 114 to 128 big bore not many bikes have a big after market
Beautiful bike ! I just came across your channel in my feed actually. I'm happy to support your efforts and those of other fellow moto content creators. I look forward to seeing and hearing more from you in the future ; keep up the great work and ride safe out there.
Difficulty finding neutral is almost certainly because the clutch needs adjustment. I had the same problem on my new Sport Glide but a ten minute tweak at the dealers sorted it nicely. Glad you enjoyed the bike!
No! finding neutral is as paint. Click Up to second Gear and Pull it down werry easy and then its in neutral.from first Gear up to neutral is almost imposible.
My 2001 Kawasaki ZRXs (I have had two) had a "Positive neutral finder", which basically means that if the bike is at a standstill, you can't shift from first to second. It just goes up to neutral. It's awesome. You don't even have to think about it, don't have to feather the shifter at all, nothing. Modern Kawasakis since then haven't had the feature and I wonder why. My Electra Glide from 1994 isn't particularly difficult to find neutral either. It's more that sometimes when you stop it it doesn't want to go to neutral at all. Then it helps to just give it a little bit of revs and slip the clutch a bit and try again.
Bought my first harley this year, and not regretting it one bit. The very first one I tried was the FatBoy ( 2021 model) and I got off it at the end of my demo soaking wet in a torrential downpour but grinning ear to ear. Definitely a bike to put a smile on your face, but I couldn't live with it, well, not as a newbie to the brand. I found the footboards very hard to ride with, but most of all trying to get it out T Junctions and tighter bends was hard work on those ultra fat tyres. Given time no doubt I would overcome these issues but having ridden with others on the same bike, and noticed how much trouble they have with tight turns and roundabouts, I think I made the right choice with the Sport Glide, a bike I instantly felt at home on. Feet forward riding takes a wee bit getting used to but it's just something you get the hang of. I would say though a lot of the nice detail points you picked out on your demo bike are extras and not standards...the grips, mirrors, Coil cover, Belt guard, seat, sissy bar, the foot brake lever ( never noticed the pegs but can't imagine they and the gear lever weren't changed if the brake pedal was changed) are all accessories. There is likely about the thick end of £2 to £2.5Ks worth of extras on that machine. Still nice though. Not mad on the dished wheels though, a few friends of mine who have them say they can be an experience in a cross wind. The stock seat is also apparently brutally uncomfortable for a pillion. I also thought the 114 sounded a bit like the gear driven cam Honda VFR's. But fit a Stage 1 with a better pipe and it's much less like a Sewing machine. Even my SG sounds better stock, than the FB but that still is a little anaemic compared to less restricted Softails. Good video though, cheers.
TMF I hope you practiced the Harley rider “Grimace” I have seen so very much this year when out on the bike around Cotswolds and Wales. I will own a Harley at some point as I love the bikes, the sound, the presence and as you say the character. Don’t think I will ever master the Grimace though. I always nod/wave to other riders but never get a response from a HD rider apart from that damn Grimace 😬
I live in the States and you're absolutely right. It's the only reason I've never wanted a Harley. I absolutely love the sound of Harley bikes. I want to own one someday. But the way Harley riders never wave, and seem to be on a high and mighty pedestal, is always a turn off. I actually had my Hayabusa at a gas station, and a man with a Yamaha R1 came up and talked to me about my bike. But I noticed the man's friends absolutely would not speak to me. Then I noticed they had Harley bikes parked behind them. I tried talking to these 2 Harley riders, but they pretended not to hear me, and just kind of looked away. That was the last time I will ever try to make friends with a Harley rider. The grimace is real.
Biggest gripe I have with not just Harleys, but many chooper riders is that THEY don't greet back when greeted and plenty (bikes) are just obnoxiously loud because "it has to be, it's a chopper".
@@theonlyredspecial I'm the same, I come from a generation where I didn't have much as a kid, so I looked after everything I had, I love cleaning my shoes as well, 👍👍
Following up on your previous video, if you could have ten bikes in your garage, no cost restrictions, what would they be? Not necessarily what you think are the best ten bikes ever, but what you would choose perhaps for sentimental reasons, and which of your current stable would make the cut? I’m not a Harley fan by any means but strangely the late 1970’s H-D XLCR cafe racer is on my list 🇬🇧🏍
I've owned one for 12 years. I never use commercial chrome polish products. I simply wipe down with a damp cloth followed by a fluffy drying towel followed by a simple spray-on wipe-off detailer spray. Absolutely effortless to care for, and it still looks like brand new.
For me, the indicators would be in my hate list. I have a Breakout I’ve had for 6 years and am convinced the self cancelling indicators will be the death of me. They cancel way to early and I find 9 times out of 10 they have cancelled before I get to the junction. Good review and I love the bike.
I’ve got a BMW with self cancelling indicators and it’s exactly the same. I wish I could turn that off as I was taught to turn my indicators off after a turn and it’s second nature to me.
I've never understood why so many bikers are quite so disparaging about Harley's and Harley riders. Maybe I wouldn't want one as an everyday bike, but I bet there's not many of us who wouldn't like one of these parked on the drive. Great summary of the bike.
Totally agree with your thoughts on social stigmas regarding brands and choices, let people make their preferences and leave them be to enjoy! Each to their own I say.
Andy I agree with 100% on finding neutral, I have a 2015 Heritage Softail Deluxe and that neutral can be very illusive at times. I also agree about the stigmatism as well, I wave at all other bikes on the road. But there are a lot of Harley riders here in the states with there so called clubs that like to think they own the road, and of coarse it gives a bad image to all of the other motorcycle riders out there. I do think you should add one to your garage, but buy a used one that someone else has worked out all of the little quirks and spent the money on the exhaust and computer tune. They are heavy but boy do they bring smile to your face!
Great vid, Andy. I’ve had 2 Fatboys in the garage: a 1998 carbureted and a 2003 100th Anniversary injected model (which I still own). Love both but certainly miss the carb version. As far as dislikes, for me it’s only the dealer network… they’re a bit greedy these days. I never had that feeling with the dealers for Ducati or Yamaha. Thankfully it’s a rare thing I need a HD dealer for anymore… all service done by yours truly (so far) except way back when for their break-in service visits. Can’t imagine how you fit that big old gal in your garage with all of your own bikes! 🏍👍🏍
This may or may not be relevant. We have a 1998 Fat Boy. Ours is the same with neutral. Holding the clutch in with slight upward pressure on the shifter, holding the throttle at about 2000 or so RPM (guessing), it will shift very nicely into neutral. And that is AFTER adjusting the clutch. Its a great bike for local rides and to be "seen" on. It has a Screaming Eagle exhaust and sounds amazing. After I replaced the shocks and went with a heavier fork oil, the ride improved. It has a "touring" H-D saddle... which is decently comfortable. However. Even with a windshield (OEM accessory) the wind beats the sense out of my head at 60+ mph. With my feet thrown out in front of me, that "decent" seat isn't so decent after 100 miles. Floorboards drag way too soon for my taste, and that's at stock ride height. This bike when new, was "modified" by a "licensed HD dealer/customizer" which resulted in a "rebuilt" title..... Talk about a hit to the value, but the frame and suspension is unmodified. This is purely specific to OUR bike, not anyone else's. But the greatest surprise to me was that I never wanted to own a Harley. This bike came into our care in sad shape through a family member. We saved it, got it back on the road... and it has grown on me quite a bit. I don't want to sell it now. Every bike has its quirks and stand-out characteristics. Ours with it's thumpy Evo engine has carved out a place of respect in my heart. Its uncomfortable for very long rides... but the sound, smooth power and good ride quality make for a good overall ride.
You are not the only one who has trouble with finding neutral. I work at a Hd dealer and all of us have trouble with neutral on the new softtails. It take many miles of break in before it gets easier. The touring line of bikes is much easier even when new. One thing I would have to add to your hate list is the side stand. Major PITA. Try a touring frame bike and the side stand is much better.
Really good review, you'd have one hell of a surprise riding one that had a basic Stage 1 done, pipes , air cleaner & tuner, totally different machine then, the standard pipes etc are so restricted. If you're ever down in Aberystwyth you're more than welcome to take my Fatboy lo Special out for a spin, I'd be so interested to see & hear your opinion. You can do a stage 2 which is a cam all the way up to a stage 4/5 which are bigger barrels pistons & CNC ported heads. They do a 131 cubic inch motor now, which is getting mind boggling figures. All the best Andy 👍👍
So if you take an over-priced bike, spend thousands on it, you can get the performance of a bike 1/2 the original price? Well, your money, your choice, and enjoy yourself. For me, no thanks.
@@rudolphcarr Twin discs would look ridiculous on the Fat Boy. All about aesthetics. The brakes on my Road King are excellent. So his statement is false and subjective.
I've recently purchased a cruiser bruiser,triumph thunderbird 1600,the grin factor,and fun on a summer's day is fantastic,must be similar to the Harley,no its not my only bike. Nice feature TMF.
Beautiful machine,I personally think the deluxe is a stunning machine,but it's all down to personal choice,hopefully next year ,I will be owning a softail,great video
Very cool vid. Now I'm a bit older I do get these & wouldn't rule out owning one but it could never be my only bike. Also from past experience, I've never had a problem with Harley riders, they had a problem with me. They were the aloof ones not nodding etc.
Always rear brake first on these apparently, the self cancelling indicators are ideal for forgetful Americans lol. They were very agricultural in the early days. They’re an expensive bike but you get what you pay for. Well finished. The engines are de tuned monsters apart from the 883. Super machines the fat boy. Belt drives last for years. Thanks for another great review Andy. Very much appreciated. 👍🏼
I’ve bought a 2021 street bob with the same 114 engine. Handlings great but it only has a 150 on the rear. Hopefully you’ll get to review one in the future. As you say, the engine is an absolute torque monster, plenty of usable torque when you need it and low down the Rev range. Fit and finish is top notch, criticisms from me ? Rear brake is weak and the clutch bite point is too far from the grip for average, small hands. Minor niggles 😊, enjoy watching your channel, more Harley’s please 👍
Don’t look for the neutral light….instead learn what neutral feels like….and you might have to go to second and drop down to it. Sometimes it’s easier if you stop the engine first….there’s always a way….and it does get better as it runs in.
Regarding the problem with getting the bike into neutral, I have a 2019 ultra limited and oil was transferring from the transmission to the primary, this was fixed by the dealer under warranty by putting a breather pipe at the back off the primary case and since this has been fitted I have no problem getting the bike into neutral, either with the engine hot or cold. I was told by the dealer this does not happen to all m8 engines apparently Harley will only recall bikes if there are more than 5 percent off the bike affected and according to my dealer on 2 percent have been reported. So if you notice this problem take the bike to a dealer or check the primary level yourself to see if it’s overfilled. The kit for fixing the problem is only about £45 and if you fill confident to do this work yourself it’s cheap to fix, if not two hours work at dealer would be all that’s needed.
Great review and lovely bike! Not ashamed to say that the HD fat boy is what got me in to biking! When I was a kid and Terminator 2 came out, I just thought that was the coolest thing in the world!! Never had one, never had any HD, I think it’s probably forever too expensive for me!! Maybe, one day…
As you'd say in Europe " your spot on " about the Harley test rode the same bike at Sturgis and rode it hard...I'm not a Harley guy have ridin quite a few but never owned one ...have an 18 Grand America, 06 Speed triple, 98 Suzuki intruder, 90 FJ1200 82 Gold Wing and a 82 900F SS....and really enjoyed the Fat Boy a little odd getting it on the side of the tire but once I got the hang of it I found myself having to get outside the goal post to keep the floor boards off the ground...lots of fun....great review.....Dan Glendale AZ U.S.A.....
Must admit Harley is a scratch that needs itching for me! Totally agree, we’re all bikers whether it’s knee scraping or two stroke haze! I’m guessing those mirrors actually work as mirrors better than they look? (Guess so as they didn’t make it onto the list of ‘hates’) Another good video. I do enjoy these! 👍🏻
Buying a new HD 13 years ago was a dream come true. I continue to enjoy every mile. Too bad about the haters. Maybe they'll actually ride one some day.
I used to fall into the hater group from back in the 70's until into the 2,000's. Many of my friends up here had Harley's and in 2015 I bought my first one, a Dyna Low Rider. I loved it and year later moved up to a Road Glide. I had that one for several years and then in 2020 I changed to a Street Glide. I have since put over 32,000 km on that one. They are incredibly comfortable mile munchers. I also have a Bonneville for an around town and short trip bike.
@@Doug_Morgan yeah, probably going to pick up a Speed Twin. No hating the lightweights here.
The vast majority of Harley haters have never ridden one or owned one. I’m far too old to care what others think, just ride and enjoy.
That's right. I've owned a lot of bikes of different "genres" (my current stable includes an S1000RR and a Super Duke) and my '10 Fat Bob is one I still regret selling because it provided a unique and really pleasant riding experience. Comparing cruisers to sport/naked bikes is like comparing a '69 Coupe de Ville to an '02 Honda S2000...and I find it annoying that virtually all "mainstream" reviewers (unlike Missenden) do pretty much that...with the consequence that a lot of the people who listen to them never even give the bikes a chance.
Harley riders have well earned the reputation...........
I own a xr1200, the suspensions crap, brakes are terrible, motor lacks grunt and fuelling is horrible under 3k, thing shakes bolts loose and gearbox is bad. Will prob sell soon....
Harley Slim, and it's perfect for Back Road country rides. It's just a simple motorcycle without all the rider modes and other unnecessary gadgets. just the bike and the road
I do not own a HD and never will but I've ridden two of them, one well over 100 miles on curvy rural roads. Due (in part), to being hideously overweight, they don't go very fast and don't handle well, start dragging parts at very moderate lean angles, the brakes are mediocre (at best), the reliability is lower than average and the cost of a new HD is laughable. Here in the USA, lots of people ride them and that's fine, but I fail to see anything appealing about them.
Having owned 3 big Harleys since 1999, I agree with you about the attention you get when you're out on them. The comment "Oh what a lovely bike" is par for the course. I remember back in 2001 I parked my Road King Classic in St Albans and 2 old ladies came over to say how much they liked the bike and ended up talking to me about it for 15 minutes. There is not another bike manufacturer in the world who gets the same attention Harley Davidson gets. I just love riding them and listening to that slow revving V-twin engine with almost limitless torque. The gearbox neutral thing is normal on a new Harley. After about 1800 miles the gear change becomes significantly better and it drops into neutral with very little effort. I can't imagine not owning a Harley Davidson motorcycle, other than if I get to a point that I can't handle the weight, but then the new Sportster S which is about to be launched is only 200kgs... 😉
Nice one Graham!
Graham i actually loved reading this, because its so interesting, i live in the states so almost universally the harley is seen as just another bike here, and when people pull up on triumphs those are the guys that get stopped and get asked all the questions (ive owned both brands and i never got stopped on the harley) so its funny to hear that over there, harley is the "exotic" gotta talk to that guy bike. You've got great tastes in wheels. Cheers for this.
My Suzuki C800 gets tons of compliments too, and loads of thumbs up from walkers/drivers on the road
@@ThirdMonarch Cheers! 👍
Harleys are more common nowadays in the UK than 10-20 years back when there were fewer about. They are seen here as a bit of a status symbol, I guess as a lot of the Celebrities/Movie Stars ride them. I suspect you must get some of this in the USA too. To me they look how a proper motorcycle should look. I like the slow revving low stress engine, the loud exhaust and the size and presents of the bike on the road. I also love the Triumphs. I have had a couple in the past (Daytona 600 & 955, plus a Bonneville). In fact my next bike will probably be a Speedmaster. It rides similar to my Softail Deluxe, but is significantly lighter...
@@grahamtricker4103 I do agree, that when people think of the word motorcycle they are probably thinking about a Harley Davidson in their mind. But I love that they are making an impact over there and it’s grown with time. The sound for me is what quintessentially makes a Harley, so I couldn’t agree more. The fact that they see the size of two wheeled tanks though definitely help haha! Well hey hopefully you’re keeping the Harley and having a triumph as well if that’s an option. The speedmasters are sweet. Bonnie’s will always be my favourite bikes looks wise but as far as cruisers: you nailed it with softails and speed masters. I wish there was a way I could send bikes over. I recently moved from Texas to the Midwest and am just a couple hours outside of Milwaukee, so harleys with low mileage and even lower prices are rampant here. You ever need eyes on the ground. Happy to help my friend.
I felt some of his emotion and cried. My dream has always been to have a Harley-Davidson, a Fat Boy. It was my father's dream but he passed away before and because of that I have not been able to fulfill that dream until today. Unemployed, with a family to raise and everything expensive here in Brazil, I'm sure I'll leave without having the pleasure of driving a Harley-Davidson. I was very happy with your emotion, congratulations.
It is dead easy to get my Jawa's neutral indicator to light up, unfortunately, it doesn't necessarily mean it is actually in neutral.
Hehe, love it...
@@TheMissendenFlyer Oh, and when it isn't illuminated, this does not mean it isn't in neutral, there is a neutral between third and fourth gears which doesn't light the idiot light.
Still have my grandfather’s old Softail Springer (FXSTS), and I think you’ve hit the nail on the head with this review. If somebody wants a sport bike, something like a Fat Boy just isn’t it. It’s more like the motorcycle equivalent to a convertible luxury car (like an F type convertible). Reasonably sporty-ish, but mostly a beautiful, fun feel-good machine for soaking up a lovely day. Great review
Easier way to find neutral is use ur foot to pull the gear in towards the bike aswell as lift it. Works for me.
Also as a Harley rider, I nod at every bike I see. Scooters included!
It’s us against the cars!
😀 ❤ You must be the only one. They never nod for me (BMW K1200LT).
@@demerzel24 I ride with many Harley guys, we always nod at any other biker. Most of the riders I'm friends with own several bikes, not just Harleys.
@@guffinator70 thanks 👍. I really appreciate it 😊
100% agree about non bikers loving the Harley. After I bought my Road King I had to change to an open faced helmet to make it easier to chat to the lovely little old ladies that wanted to talk to me every time I pulled up in a town centre.
Let me know if you find a marque that means lovely young ladies want to talk to you every time you pull up in a town centre....
I really like the way you edit these kind of videos. List videos and such tend to be a bit boring but the flow and rhythm you got here makes it a joy to watch. Thank you for the great content!
Wow, thank you very much!
had it for 2years now, still cant find neutral on the fly and it is VERY practical for everyday use. I've ridden it everyday for 2years now, both on city rides and long 5000km tours and rides superbly
Great to hear!
Next up a big Harley Davidson Ultra! Would be fun to see your take on it compared to your Goldwing. I like the Fat Boy too! Cheers! Nice review as always.
You are one of only about 5 per cent of Harley riders I've ever seen wearing all the proper gear. What a role model!
Thank you very much!
I have had a lot of motorcycles but I love my 2020 131" Fat Boy. You would love it even more with a 131" upgrade! Personally, I think the lack of love from other riders should be in your top-10 list of likes though.
The rear brake pedal on the big harleys was something to get used to when I got the Electra Glide. All my other bikes have brake levers, nice dainty things that you can manipulate with the balls of your foot. The Harley's is literally a pedal, like in a car. The brake is surprisingly strong once you learn to just pick your foot up off the floorboard and simply step on the pedal like you would in a car.
I had a Harley fifteen years ago and the self canceling indicators were great even then. What I didn't like was a rev limiter that cut in at under 5000 rpm. I also found the shiny bits corroded almost immediately if you didn't remember to wipe everything down after riding.
I invested in a Dynajet Power Vision which allows you to change the rev limiter, adjust low idle, correct decel pop among dozens of other functions. Worth every dime if you plan on keeping your HD.
Any bike 15 years ago would corrode or rust. Many other brands tried to copy HD in the looks and ridestyle. Also bikes with lots of chrome. I haven't owned any cruisers previously or a Harley for that matter, but the bikes I have owned you had to take care of and they also rusted in the hard to reach areas.
My 2019 Harley has no rust even parked outside in the rain.
Ive been lucky enough to own 62 bikes over the years of most brands, I still have 3 of them. I seem to have a bike on average 1-3 years but I bought my Fatboy new in 2014 and 7 years later shes still with me. Every now and again I think about selling her but one ride always makes me reconsider and I arrive home with a smile.
That says it all doesn't it Phil!
Hey out there. I have a 2016 fatboy and it is the king of the road no problems just total enjoyment with almost 11000 miles on it its still a new bike 6 years later
Such a good video, and clearly not coming from someone who is biased. Even if Harley air cooled v-twin cruisers aren't your "cup of tea," nobody can deny that they are incredibly beautiful. And the sound of a Harley air cooled engine is unlike anything else on the road. I'm not a Harley rider, but I've stood up close to Harley bikes, and they exude a type of high quality beauty that no other bikes seem to have. Seeing them up close, in person, is different than seeing a photo.
I agree 100%
Road king special and the Honda Monkey are my dream bikes😍
I love all bikes - but Harleys do have a unique ride and feel
Harley hit the nail on the head with the Fatboy. It's magnificent and I would love to have one. The company has turned right around and created a nearly perfect machine.......Sal : )
hahah, love the outtakes! More of those on each video. Great video as always Andy.
Glad you like them! I don't always have them to add!
I used to go for Sunday rides out on the country roads here with my wife and people would always come a talk to us and ask for pictures. We had just a 883 Superlow, with mini apes and a windshield, but we really went some places Onsite that bike. Test rode the New 2022 Harley Heritage Classic in Red & Black. Amazing bike. The New Low Rider S with 117 just scared me.
I own a '22 Fatboy. You are correct about finding neutral. It's far easier to locate if you are rolling, when parked however it's difficult to locate.
Just give it a little Rev as you shift into neutral, This separates the clutches so it shifts easier.
Thats my dream bike and has been for decades. it just looks so epic:D Getting mine next spring and i cannot wait!
Nice one....
The handling comes with the looks and to be fair the fat boy looks is amazing
I fell in love with a 1450 Fat Boy 2 weeks ago .I know chrome won't get you home , but the previous owner had it painted in a beautiful metallic green , and covered it with as much chrome as is possible .I wish I could put a pic of it on here .Its awesome .
And its in my garage.
So glad you like the Fatty! Surprised that the forward controls didn't make your "hate" list. For me, that's what makes a Harley Davidson. Exhaust options are among the most kaleidoscopic of all bikes. Not gonna get the true potato sound though...once Harley went EFI, potato-potato said bye-bye!
Really wouldn’t mind one myself Great review, thank you.
Thanks for the extremely positive review for the Harley brand.The Softail’s are the pick of the bunch.Although the Fatboy has the edge with looks,by far best value is the Sport Glide.Similar looks,but easily detachable bags and fairing,and best Harley for handling .Worth a review at some point.
I must admit as a dyed in the wool performance bike fan, I really like the look of that. Sidestand notch 9.35,great idea.
Isn't it just - I'd never come across that before....
I like the bikes themselves, it’s just the associated image of leather chaps and tassels that puts me off.
Don't knock it 'til you've tried it..!
I am looking into getting one and was waiting for this vid. Need to get a test ride for a day! Wish me luck
Good luck!
Also test ride a Sport Glide, interchangeable in minutes from touring to a town bike straight out the box. Handles better as well.
Nice review Andy, I swopped my panigale 1299s for a softail slim, best motorcycling decision in years. Now I can simply enjoy riding the bike rather than being taken for a ride
An honest broker approach to the bike Andy. I would try one, but a Harley isn’t on any wish list of mine.
I don’t subscribe to the theory of bikers not nodding to Harley’s… many do…
I've just said IME it's the other way around I nod at Harley riders but they don't nod back... I think it's because they are concentrating so hard on trying to ride a heavy bike with a meager front brake 😉 joking apart they do look good but I've had a couple of test rides and couldn't get on with the brakes, no doubt my lack of riding skill but it didn't feel safe enough for me...
When I took my CBT, I was put at the front of the pack and there was a big bike meet on the IOW and every one of them gave a nod. I felt like the Churchill dog after that 😆
I changed from a ktm superduke 1290gt which was a great all round bike to a street glide 3 months ago. Yes it’s slower, heavier, vibrates more but I absolutely love it, in my mid 50s I decided I didn’t need 1301cc 170bhp, so wanted a more relaxed pace to look around, take the wife out and have something more analogue than the ktm, and it does all those things, wish I had got one years ago
Like you I like any bike, I find its the HD riders themselves with the attitude.
Maybe, I tend to give everyone the benefit of the doubt....
Another balanced review thanks Andy! Personally I think the stigma is more to do with the association of Harleys to the American riders, hells angels etc who gave the bikes a bad name. As far as the engineering, design and styling of the bikes goes there certainly is no need for prejudice!!
So that's why so many new bikes are lacking chrome, HD has bought it all.
Nothing like chrome to make a bike look gaudy and weigh 850 lbs.
Really pleased to see you giving a positive review of the H-D Fat Boy , you got it absolutely spot on, the Fat Boy is a beautiful looking machine, its a work of automotive art that will put a smile on your face every time you ride it, surely that is the reason you ride a bike (the grin factor) an excellent review , very fair and honest.
Thank you Ian - I try and give my honest opinion on all the bikes I ride….I’m no expert though, it’s just my opinion…
A bike on my bucket list. A Fat Boy and a Fat Bob...
Thank you for the review. As I live in the US the Fatboy is not a large bike. My Indian Springfield (Think Road King) weighs 130 lbs more. Most of the baggers weigh near 900 lbs. If I bought a Harley. I’d either buy a Fat Boy or Road King. These bikes are cruisers not meant for the twisties so much but are reasonably comfortable, very visceral, and well mannered at low speeds owned a Yamaha Stratoliner before my Indian. Compared the Strat the Indian is very nimble. At 73 years of age the bulk may sooner be hard to manage and I will downsize. I don’t plan on quitting riding anytime soon They have plenty of HP and loads of torque which comes at low RPMs. I am surprised that it doesn’t have two discs up front. Thanks again and ride safe:)
Nice one! I really enjoyed watching this video mate! One year ago I also had the chance to ride a Fat Boy...
...the brakes were weak, the suspension rough, the handling not exactly effortless
and I absolutely loved it! It such an amazing bike to experience! That engine!!! I sure hope I can ride one again sometime in the future - I failed to make a video back then ;)
Hey great to hear from you Vale!! Yes, I’m sure one of your videos of you ripping this around the twisters scraping the foot boards would go down a treat!! Hope you’re keeping well??
Hey great to hear from you Vale!! Yes, I’m sure one of your videos of you ripping this around the twisties scraping the foot boards would go down a treat!! Hope you’re keeping well??
I couldn't agree more. In the U.S., there is saying it rides like a pig. The fat boy isn't about performance. It's more of a biker life style and looking cool. BTW, great review.
Thank you - glad we concur!
Speaking of maintaining the bike, one of my favorite Harley features: adjustment-free valves
My all time favourite Harley
I love the L/R Harley turn signal switches. Once you get used to them, you'll never want to go back.
Very happy with mine, glad you enjoyed it!
Amazing machine....
I have just put 350 miles on my new Lowrider S Stage 1 with V and H Longshot Staggered pipes. I think it solves most all of the stuff you didn’t like about the Fatboy. Sounds great, goes like stink, twin discs up front so front brake is awesome (rear not so much!), but the thing that amazes me most is the handling which is borderline sporty! Great piece of kit and comfy too!
Nice one!
FINALLY!!! :-D So keen to see how you got on with her / him /it.
Haha, same here Baron, was eagerly awaiting TMF's final opinion on the bike myself, but to be fair, he looked like he'd fallen in love with it on his initial ride about six weeks ago. Great channel!
Here in the U.S. the stigma is somewhat deserved. I've lived in Sturgis, been on several poker runs from bar to bar, and even just yesterday had a pack of about 100 Harleys pass me while I was bicycling in the Rockies; the size of group that blocks intersections to all traffic, regardless of what color the light is, until all the bikes are through. For some, a Harley isn't just a bike, it's a lifestyle. A violent, made in America, leather jacket in winter lifestyle. Not all, just some.
Yes I can understand that - not something we have over here obviously, you rarely see more than two or three at a time...in fact you rarely see Harleys at all.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer "you rarely see Harleys at all" - Sounds like my kind of place.
@@iamtherealzombie The haters are going to be very confused by the Pan America.
Harley Davidson the most iconic motorcycle brand on earth, bar none.
Good review 🥂🍻
Finding neutral while stationary with a running engine can be a pita, which is why I always try to get it while the bike is still rolling.
However if you;
> chuck it in first
> turn off the engine
> slight upwards tap without using the clutch
> et voila..... 9/10 instant neutral
Indeed - a faff isn’t it…
😂😂 love your trick!
Excellent and honest review, well done and fun to watch. I'm in the process of buying a 2022 Fat Boy right now, the dealer is annoying, he's trying to take me to the cleaners so I've got to battle him tomorrow and I'm not looking forward to it. He'll have to bend or I'm walking away, hope that doesn't happen. Thank you, be safe brother. P.S. I've found finding neutral gets better with time and usage.
Best of luck with the negotiation!
The big downside of belt drive is 'if' it breaks or needs replacing, (it is made the same as a timing belt on a car engine so it doesn't like oil/grease, dirt or objects like a small stone in it), it is a major job. The whole primary side has to come off (primary drive, all the clutch, then an inner cover, then there is a section of the swing arm pivot that needs to be removed, even with all the special tools it is a 4-5 hour job ( it took a friend of mine over 8 hours using improvised tools) and can't be done on the side of the road, and no, you can't put a joiner in, it is one piece. Nice review as usual, keep up the good work.
Quick and easy to replace on a Sportster.
Moneybags TMF would simply get the dealer to do it.
@@splodge57 Yes, but completely different setup, by the way, which sportster, the new one?.
@@onecookieboy my 2001 1200S.
Great video yet again. With reference to the stigma to certain brands, I totally agree, riders are riders, but with the HD reference, I tend to find its the harley riders themselves who tend to lookdown at other riders. Not all, normally ones riding alone.
Beautiful motorcycle, great video!
Many thanks!
Howdoo TMF Yeah as a Harley rider myself i know the brakes aren't up to scratch if you come from sport bikes or the like, but 1st day on the Harley the one guy told me to remember to use both brakes and since then it has become habit. Then they work fine. And yes they are big and bulky and there is a stigma but after 6 years on mine i still grin like an idiot when i ride. And i actually use mine every day, i do not own any other mode of transport so mine is for commuting, short breakfast runs and long tours ll rolled into one. Loved the video and i especially love the outtakes at the end.
That’s brilliant - thanks for watching and for stopping by!
Great vid! I currently own an 18 GSA, 19 Speed Triple RS, 20 KTM 350EXC, and now a 21 Street Glide Special. Only fully realized the HD allure post-ownership. Now can't seem to get any miles on the others much any more. The sound, feel, and looks are simply unmatched.
I guess that’s the true test isn’t it - which bike do you want to ride….
Harley Really screwed up ending production of the Vrod..It was fast,dependable and beautiful..Ive owned 3 muscles..loved all of them..Decided to try a fatbob..I want my Vrod back...lol
Good idea to include the out takes Andy, another quality video 💪
one of the best things about the bike is you can make it yours with multiple engine upgrades i did mine from 114 to 128 big bore not many bikes have a big after market
Love the format. Safe riding and keep up the great content
Thanks! Will do!
Beautiful bike ! I just came across your channel in my feed actually. I'm happy to support your efforts and those of other fellow moto content creators. I look forward to seeing and hearing more from you in the future ; keep up the great work and ride safe out there.
Welcome along!
Difficulty finding neutral is almost certainly because the clutch needs adjustment. I had the same problem on my new Sport Glide but a ten minute tweak at the dealers sorted it nicely. Glad you enjoyed the bike!
No! finding neutral is as paint. Click Up to second Gear and Pull it down werry easy and then its in neutral.from first Gear up to neutral is almost imposible.
After the dealer’s adjustment, finding neutral from first or second gear on my bike is now very easy.
My 2001 Kawasaki ZRXs (I have had two) had a "Positive neutral finder", which basically means that if the bike is at a standstill, you can't shift from first to second. It just goes up to neutral. It's awesome. You don't even have to think about it, don't have to feather the shifter at all, nothing. Modern Kawasakis since then haven't had the feature and I wonder why.
My Electra Glide from 1994 isn't particularly difficult to find neutral either. It's more that sometimes when you stop it it doesn't want to go to neutral at all. Then it helps to just give it a little bit of revs and slip the clutch a bit and try again.
Bought my first harley this year, and not regretting it one bit. The very first one I tried was the FatBoy ( 2021 model) and I got off it at the end of my demo soaking wet in a torrential downpour but grinning ear to ear. Definitely a bike to put a smile on your face, but I couldn't live with it, well, not as a newbie to the brand. I found the footboards very hard to ride with, but most of all trying to get it out T Junctions and tighter bends was hard work on those ultra fat tyres. Given time no doubt I would overcome these issues but having ridden with others on the same bike, and noticed how much trouble they have with tight turns and roundabouts, I think I made the right choice with the Sport Glide, a bike I instantly felt at home on. Feet forward riding takes a wee bit getting used to but it's just something you get the hang of. I would say though a lot of the nice detail points you picked out on your demo bike are extras and not standards...the grips, mirrors, Coil cover, Belt guard, seat, sissy bar, the foot brake lever ( never noticed the pegs but can't imagine they and the gear lever weren't changed if the brake pedal was changed) are all accessories. There is likely about the thick end of £2 to £2.5Ks worth of extras on that machine. Still nice though. Not mad on the dished wheels though, a few friends of mine who have them say they can be an experience in a cross wind. The stock seat is also apparently brutally uncomfortable for a pillion. I also thought the 114 sounded a bit like the gear driven cam Honda VFR's. But fit a Stage 1 with a better pipe and it's much less like a Sewing machine. Even my SG sounds better stock, than the FB but that still is a little anaemic compared to less restricted Softails. Good video though, cheers.
Thanks for watching Kenneth!
TMF I hope you practiced the Harley rider “Grimace” I have seen so very much this year when out on the bike around Cotswolds and Wales. I will own a Harley at some point as I love the bikes, the sound, the presence and as you say the character. Don’t think I will ever master the Grimace though. I always nod/wave to other riders but never get a response from a HD rider apart from that damn Grimace 😬
I live in the States and you're absolutely right. It's the only reason I've never wanted a Harley. I absolutely love the sound of Harley bikes. I want to own one someday. But the way Harley riders never wave, and seem to be on a high and mighty pedestal, is always a turn off. I actually had my Hayabusa at a gas station, and a man with a Yamaha R1 came up and talked to me about my bike. But I noticed the man's friends absolutely would not speak to me. Then I noticed they had Harley bikes parked behind them. I tried talking to these 2 Harley riders, but they pretended not to hear me, and just kind of looked away. That was the last time I will ever try to make friends with a Harley rider. The grimace is real.
Biggest gripe I have with not just Harleys, but many chooper riders is that THEY don't greet back when greeted and plenty (bikes) are just obnoxiously loud because "it has to be, it's a chopper".
Thank you. Loved the out takes. They really crease me up.
There's only one negative for me, the cleaning! God that's some chrome to polish!
I think it could be a fun way to pass a few hours on a Sunday in the garage….
@@TheMissendenFlyer Fun! That's not my idea of fun! Very pretty to look at though.
@@TheMissendenFlyer only if your retired. Myself working 50+ hours a week it would simply be a chore
It's my therapy, spend a an hour a week polishing up my street glide which is just an hour of me putzing around in the garage chilling to music
@@theonlyredspecial I'm the same, I come from a generation where I didn't have much as a kid, so I looked after everything I had, I love cleaning my shoes as well, 👍👍
Following up on your previous video, if you could have ten bikes in your garage, no cost restrictions, what would they be? Not necessarily what you think are the best ten bikes ever, but what you would choose perhaps for sentimental reasons, and which of your current stable would make the cut? I’m not a Harley fan by any means but strangely the late 1970’s H-D XLCR cafe racer is on my list 🇬🇧🏍
Off the top of my head I’d keep my current six and add a Fatboy, Ducati Streetfighter v4s, Kawasaki z900RS and a BMW S1000RR….
Man you’ve gotta love cleaning and polishing to own something like that, too much like hard work for me!
There are bikes to ride and Bikes to polish.
I've owned one for 12 years. I never use commercial chrome polish products. I simply wipe down with a damp cloth followed by a fluffy drying towel followed by a simple spray-on wipe-off detailer spray. Absolutely effortless to care for, and it still looks like brand new.
For me, the indicators would be in my hate list. I have a Breakout I’ve had for 6 years and am convinced the self cancelling indicators will be the death of me. They cancel way to early and I find 9 times out of 10 they have cancelled before I get to the junction.
Good review and I love the bike.
I actually rather like the indicators!
I like the idea but my indicators sometimes cancel too early on my 2001 Sportster. Maybe they've sorted it out on the latest bikes.
I’ve got a BMW with self cancelling indicators and it’s exactly the same. I wish I could turn that off as I was taught to turn my indicators off after a turn and it’s second nature to me.
I've never understood why so many bikers are quite so disparaging about Harley's and Harley riders. Maybe I wouldn't want one as an everyday bike, but I bet there's not many of us who wouldn't like one of these parked on the drive. Great summary of the bike.
Cheers Gareth - even if it's just to look at I'd have one!
Totally agree with your thoughts on social stigmas regarding brands and choices, let people make their preferences and leave them be to enjoy! Each to their own I say.
Couldn't agree more Nick...
Andy I agree with 100% on finding neutral, I have a 2015 Heritage Softail Deluxe and that neutral can be very illusive at times. I also agree about the stigmatism as well, I wave at all other bikes on the road. But there are a lot of Harley riders here in the states with there so called clubs that like to think they own the road, and of coarse it gives a bad image to all of the other motorcycle riders out there. I do think you should add one to your garage, but buy a used one that someone else has worked out all of the little quirks and spent the money on the exhaust and computer tune. They are heavy but boy do they bring smile to your face!
They certainly do Scott - I get they're not for everyone but I must admit I do enjoy riding them....
Good Harley review and test ride Andy. Can't beat the sound of Harley cruisers especially with after market pipes.
I’ve yet to experience after market pipes on a Harley….I can imagine I’m missing out…
Great vid, Andy. I’ve had 2 Fatboys in the garage: a 1998 carbureted and a 2003 100th Anniversary injected model (which I still own). Love both but certainly miss the carb version. As far as dislikes, for me it’s only the dealer network… they’re a bit greedy these days. I never had that feeling with the dealers for Ducati or Yamaha. Thankfully it’s a rare thing I need a HD dealer for anymore… all service done by yours truly (so far) except way back when for their break-in service visits. Can’t imagine how you fit that big old gal in your garage with all of your own bikes! 🏍👍🏍
Yes it was a bit of a challenge (and a calamity when I dropped it onto my Panigale!)....
@@TheMissendenFlyer ug!
Never owned a Harley...always been a euro simp...but no matter we ride we all share a love for two wheels and the open roads...ride on!
The Fatboy is gorgeous!!! Great show!
Thank you and I agree! What a bike!!
Gimme your boots, your clothes and your motorcycle.
Great line eh?
You forgot to say please
that's not the correct quote
“I need your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle”… the only thing missing was the terminator sunnies 😂
This may or may not be relevant. We have a 1998 Fat Boy. Ours is the same with neutral. Holding the clutch in with slight upward pressure on the shifter, holding the throttle at about 2000 or so RPM (guessing), it will shift very nicely into neutral. And that is AFTER adjusting the clutch. Its a great bike for local rides and to be "seen" on. It has a Screaming Eagle exhaust and sounds amazing. After I replaced the shocks and went with a heavier fork oil, the ride improved. It has a "touring" H-D saddle... which is decently comfortable. However. Even with a windshield (OEM accessory) the wind beats the sense out of my head at 60+ mph. With my feet thrown out in front of me, that "decent" seat isn't so decent after 100 miles. Floorboards drag way too soon for my taste, and that's at stock ride height. This bike when new, was "modified" by a "licensed HD dealer/customizer" which resulted in a "rebuilt" title..... Talk about a hit to the value, but the frame and suspension is unmodified. This is purely specific to OUR bike, not anyone else's. But the greatest surprise to me was that I never wanted to own a Harley. This bike came into our care in sad shape through a family member. We saved it, got it back on the road... and it has grown on me quite a bit. I don't want to sell it now. Every bike has its quirks and stand-out characteristics. Ours with it's thumpy Evo engine has carved out a place of respect in my heart. Its uncomfortable for very long rides... but the sound, smooth power and good ride quality make for a good overall ride.
You are not the only one who has trouble with finding neutral. I work at a Hd dealer and all of us have trouble with neutral on the new softtails. It take many miles of break in before it gets easier. The touring line of bikes is much easier even when new. One thing I would have to add to your hate list is the side stand. Major PITA. Try a touring frame bike and the side stand is much better.
Yes I thought the sidestand was great until one particular incident in my garage.....(I dropped this puppy!)
Really good review, you'd have one hell of a surprise riding one that had a basic Stage 1 done, pipes , air cleaner & tuner, totally different machine then, the standard pipes etc are so restricted. If you're ever down in Aberystwyth you're more than welcome to take my Fatboy lo Special out for a spin, I'd be so interested to see & hear your opinion. You can do a stage 2 which is a cam all the way up to a stage 4/5 which are bigger barrels pistons & CNC ported heads. They do a 131 cubic inch motor now, which is getting mind boggling figures. All the best Andy 👍👍
Cheers Geoff!
So if you take an over-priced bike, spend thousands on it, you can get the performance of a bike 1/2 the original price? Well, your money, your choice, and enjoy yourself. For me, no thanks.
@@marcoluoma3770 You either understand it or you don't.
@@shegocrazy 👍👍
"My Harley has great brakes". Is a statement that has never been made.
The Fat Bob has better brakes.
@@harleyd8227 Perhaps but his statement is still true
@@rudolphcarr Twin discs would look ridiculous on the Fat Boy. All about aesthetics. The brakes on my Road King are excellent. So his statement is false and subjective.
Harley riders very rarely nod back.
I do!
@@TheMissendenFlyer you wait you'll have a goatee and leather waste coat before you know it. Bet you don't nod then!
Harley Davidson ~ The Cadillac of motorcycles...
Such a wonderful machine 👍
I've recently purchased a cruiser bruiser,triumph thunderbird 1600,the grin factor,and fun on a summer's day is fantastic,must be similar to the Harley,no its not my only bike. Nice feature TMF.
Yes I loved the old Thunderbird…similar feel bike for sure…
Beautiful machine,I personally think the deluxe is a stunning machine,but it's all down to personal choice,hopefully next year ,I will be owning a softail,great video
"The Stigma" is not the bike it's the owners IMO.
That’s a very well thought out generalisation there - well done 🤔
@@Saecocycle A generalisation indeed Gary.
@@Saecocycle It is a broad generalisation yes; but unfortunately one that many bikers will recognize as valid.
Very cool vid. Now I'm a bit older I do get these & wouldn't rule out owning one but it could never be my only bike. Also from past experience, I've never had a problem with Harley riders, they had a problem with me. They were the aloof ones not nodding etc.
Several people have said that - I nod at anyone personally...
@@TheMissendenFlyer Agreed. Likewise. Why wouldn't you?
@@TheMissendenFlyer Agreed. Likewise. Why wouldn't you?
Always rear brake first on these apparently, the self cancelling indicators are ideal for forgetful Americans lol. They were very agricultural in the early days. They’re an expensive bike but you get what you pay for. Well finished. The engines are de tuned monsters apart from the 883. Super machines the fat boy. Belt drives last for years. Thanks for another great review Andy. Very much appreciated. 👍🏼
My pleasure as ever James!
I’ve bought a 2021 street bob with the same 114 engine. Handlings great but it only has a 150 on the rear. Hopefully you’ll get to review one in the future. As you say, the engine is an absolute torque monster, plenty of usable torque when you need it and low down the Rev range. Fit and finish is top notch, criticisms from me ? Rear brake is weak and the clutch bite point is too far from the grip for average, small hands. Minor niggles 😊, enjoy watching your channel, more Harley’s please 👍
Love your reviews Andy.
Thank you kindly
Don’t look for the neutral light….instead learn what neutral feels like….and you might have to go to second and drop down to it. Sometimes it’s easier if you stop the engine first….there’s always a way….and it does get better as it runs in.
Regarding the problem with getting the bike into neutral, I have a 2019 ultra limited and oil was transferring from the transmission to the primary, this was fixed by the dealer under warranty by putting a breather pipe at the back off the primary case and since this has been fitted I have no problem getting the bike into neutral, either with the engine hot or cold. I was told by the dealer this does not happen to all m8 engines apparently Harley will only recall bikes if there are more than 5 percent off the bike affected and according to my dealer on 2 percent have been reported. So if you notice this problem take the bike to a dealer or check the primary level yourself to see if it’s overfilled. The kit for fixing the problem is only about £45 and if you fill confident to do this work yourself it’s cheap to fix, if not two hours work at dealer would be all that’s needed.
Great review and lovely bike! Not ashamed to say that the HD fat boy is what got me in to biking! When I was a kid and Terminator 2 came out, I just thought that was the coolest thing in the world!! Never had one, never had any HD, I think it’s probably forever too expensive for me!! Maybe, one day…
It is cool isn't it....
You will get there.just traded in my evo FXDWG for a Fat Boy.
Took me a while but I got there .( my age )
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As you'd say in Europe " your spot on " about the Harley test rode the same bike at Sturgis and rode it hard...I'm not a Harley guy have ridin quite a few but never owned one ...have an 18 Grand America, 06 Speed triple, 98 Suzuki intruder, 90 FJ1200 82 Gold Wing and a 82 900F SS....and really enjoyed the Fat Boy a little odd getting it on the side of the tire but once I got the hang of it I found myself having to get outside the goal post to keep the floor boards off the ground...lots of fun....great review.....Dan Glendale AZ U.S.A.....
Thanks for watching and for stopping by Dan!
Must admit Harley is a scratch that needs itching for me! Totally agree, we’re all bikers whether it’s knee scraping or two stroke haze!
I’m guessing those mirrors actually work as mirrors better than they look? (Guess so as they didn’t make it onto the list of ‘hates’)
Another good video. I do enjoy these! 👍🏻