JAMES TONEY vs. VASSILIY JIROV | FULL FIGHT | BOXING WORLD WEEKLY

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  • @Emaratilfy
    @Emaratilfy Рік тому +34

    One of my favorite fights of all time with one of my favorite fighter of all time.
    Toney is one of the fighters you just wish would never age.

  • @cuocsonguc7413
    @cuocsonguc7413 3 роки тому +54

    I love the way Toney move he bend up and down so smooth,he is look so relaxed

    • @kidofsteel0362
      @kidofsteel0362 Рік тому +9

      He mastered that old school technique. He really was a wizard in there.

    • @MrSilus2000
      @MrSilus2000 Рік тому +9

      His now deceased coach told him the number one thing in a fight is staying relaxed.

    • @drinfernodds
      @drinfernodds 9 місяців тому +5

      @@MrSilus2000 yup, combine that with Toney only sparring for his training, and he was always calm under fire.

  • @regreene2384
    @regreene2384 2 роки тому +92

    This brings me to tears. What a fight.

  • @visioninvasion1271
    @visioninvasion1271 2 роки тому +128

    Simply put : one of the best fight ever.
    What a final round!

    • @eliassosa67
      @eliassosa67 2 роки тому

      Una es boliviano canelo y el apellido es por lo rojo y no puede pelear con paquetes va ir a estados unidos Jones se retiro del boxeo en 1999

    • @jeromesmith6415
      @jeromesmith6415 Рік тому

      James toney would have beat Hagler

    • @sherrillraymond7595
      @sherrillraymond7595 Рік тому +1

      ​@@jeromesmith6415it would've been a good fight

  • @Mister_Vintage
    @Mister_Vintage 2 роки тому +126

    Unforgettable. I watched this live and will always remember Emmanuel Stewart losing his mind in the 12th round....as though a lifetime boxing man had never seen such will.

    • @mr.blackhawk142
      @mr.blackhawk142 2 роки тому +6

      You mean 'live' on TV of course?

    • @sleazyfellow
      @sleazyfellow 2 роки тому +7

      @@mr.blackhawk142 same thing I did. I saw this as it happened on television, LIVE. This was like Archie Moore Yvonne Durell type of fight, a fight to the finish. This is Toneys greatest performance and cemented him for me as a great.

    • @Mister_Vintage
      @Mister_Vintage 4 місяці тому +2

      @@mr.blackhawk142 - yeah, live on TV. I don't roll that hard :-D

  • @benlogan430
    @benlogan430 2 роки тому +71

    One of Toney’s best. The D and the offense are both spot on. I saw this live on TV and it’s just as good now. Toney is a legend standing in range and not getting hit all the while dishing out the jello pudding. Sweet science indeed.

    • @richardonyegasi5569
      @richardonyegasi5569 Рік тому +1

      Toney economies his blows and I'm not comfortable with that style. He kept the fight lasting longer than necessary

    • @richardonyegasi5569
      @richardonyegasi5569 Рік тому +1

      Why Toney allows himself to be pinned to the robes bits Mt imagination

    • @bigblock67camaro
      @bigblock67camaro Рік тому +2

      What makes this fight even better is the late great Emanuel Steward was ringside with HBO. He was my favorite blow by blow man.

    • @LORDJODYE
      @LORDJODYE Рік тому

      Pause

    • @vitaligubanov7264
      @vitaligubanov7264 Рік тому

      333

  • @michaelmohrle1773
    @michaelmohrle1773 2 роки тому +73

    This was an exciting fight, Stewart's announcing at the end was classic !!!

    • @KeithWickliffe79
      @KeithWickliffe79 2 роки тому +9

      Yeah his commentary was legendary 🙂

    • @michaelmohrle1773
      @michaelmohrle1773 8 місяців тому +2

      Yes I miss everything about HBO boxing, the Sopranos too... It doesn't seem that long ago but it's over 20 years since this fight. Boxing on Saturday night, the Sopranos on Sunday night !

  • @ahmadmclaurin5911
    @ahmadmclaurin5911 3 роки тому +43

    James Toney is unbelievablez 52:19 play it in slow motion and watch him slip that punch. That was last little of Jirov energy and then he hit him with a body blow. This greatest shit I’ve ever seen.

    • @MrSilus2000
      @MrSilus2000 Рік тому

      He smacked him that wasn’t a slip

    • @robotboy719
      @robotboy719 7 місяців тому +1

      I've watched the entire fight at 1/4 speed. It's the only way to truly appreciate the subtleties of Toney's movement and positioning, and how many of Jirov's punches that look like they landed in real time are picked off or deflected. You also see how accurate Toney's punches are and how many times he shook Jirov.

  • @SolracCAP
    @SolracCAP 3 роки тому +53

    Both men had hearts of iron. Ultimately, Jirov ate some huge shots with nothing left in the tank.

    • @АндрейИванов-л9ш4л
      @АндрейИванов-л9ш4л 3 роки тому +2

      5

    • @burllawson4185
      @burllawson4185 2 місяці тому +1

      I watched this fight lives well and this fight came down to conditioning and the fact that Toney could take more punishment than Jirov. The fact that Toney could take so much punishment and keep going is probably why you can't understand him when he speaks now though.

    • @dandychiggins7240
      @dandychiggins7240 6 днів тому

      "Some" bro ate a whole 7 course meal of huge shots during the last rounds alone

  • @draft1643
    @draft1643 3 роки тому +42

    Lights Out what a legend. Brought me so much pleasure watching boxing over the decades

  • @ronaldfinch7420
    @ronaldfinch7420 2 роки тому +45

    James is the most talented fighter I’ve ever seen.

    • @AmericanJohnGrass
      @AmericanJohnGrass Рік тому +4

      Roy Jones Jr isn’t?

    • @ronaldfinch7420
      @ronaldfinch7420 Рік тому +7

      Overall…. No, definitely not.

    • @irvinmorales1409
      @irvinmorales1409 11 місяців тому +5

      ​@@ronaldfinch7420
      He's certainly one of the most. Freddy Roach, one of the greatest trainers of all time stated that James was the most talented fighter he ever trained.

    • @TheTillmanSneakerReview
      @TheTillmanSneakerReview 8 місяців тому +4

      @@ronaldfinch7420 Tony started his pro career at middle weight and ended it at heavyweight...because he was fat. A fat middleweight winning at the heavyweight division definitely makes his a GOAT.

    • @TheIkaraCult
      @TheIkaraCult 5 місяців тому +1

      there's some brilliant sparring footage out there, particularly of him against Danny Green. You can see him doing the usual James Toney things, but you can hear him talking to his opponent as well.

  • @prukruk2237
    @prukruk2237 3 роки тому +87

    Tony has the patience of a saint. His calmness is out of this world.

  • @nocthepanafricanistcapital5467
    @nocthepanafricanistcapital5467 Рік тому +50

    Unbelievable. James is a real legend. But his opponent showed the most courage I’ve ever seen in a ring.

    • @VernardChapman
      @VernardChapman 8 місяців тому +3

      Non CM fr

    • @TheTillmanSneakerReview
      @TheTillmanSneakerReview 8 місяців тому

      I love the courage he showed when he threw all those low blows and kidney shots...☺

    • @KrisnandaAbinayarifai
      @KrisnandaAbinayarifai 8 місяців тому

      L00
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    • @robotboy719
      @robotboy719 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@TheTillmanSneakerReviewIf you get hit with that many flush bombs and still refuse to move your head, 'courage' probably isn't the right word.

    • @oaoa3953
      @oaoa3953 2 дні тому

      He wouldn't back down at all, it was incredible

  • @WYNNBETS
    @WYNNBETS Рік тому +7

    James Toney is the real 🐐 of boxing.

  • @cuba8188
    @cuba8188 Рік тому +23

    Toney is a straight g! That man has the hardest chin I've ever seen and he wastes no punches or energy... He makes it look so natural and easy... My fav fighter of all time

  • @georgerodriguez7588
    @georgerodriguez7588 2 роки тому +53

    I remember watching this at home sitting on the couch thinking wow! Both guys are tuff but what really caught my attention was how jirov even though being hurt badly in the last round would not clinch and just rather continue to throw punches and fight his way out of being hurt ..unbelievable!

    • @eliassosa67
      @eliassosa67 2 роки тому

      Canello es un paquete y es boliviano se tiñe hasta los pelos de los huevos de color naranja

  • @Carlos12353
    @Carlos12353 2 роки тому +10

    the inside fighting in this one is so awesome

  • @kaz5150619
    @kaz5150619 2 роки тому +12

    Both men underrated AF i love Toney but brother Jirov is incredible also i mean 7x defences of IBF belt that doesnt happen much these days its all about unification it sucks

  • @oaoa3953
    @oaoa3953 Рік тому +12

    Top 10 fav boxing fights of all time

  • @boxer3139
    @boxer3139 3 роки тому +63

    Much respect to Jirov, but nobody on earth was beating Toney at this stage of his career.

    • @butters7726
      @butters7726 3 роки тому +4

      how about Roy? Hopkins?

    • @boxer3139
      @boxer3139 3 роки тому +20

      Young RJ beat Toney and an old B-hop would beat Toney of they fought in there 40s. But this Toney right here, aint nobody beating.

    • @vmntmn
      @vmntmn 3 роки тому +10

      @@boxer3139 I was watching a James Toney interview he said that when he was fighting Roy he was full of himself and let all the success get to his head. As such he didn't take training seriously and this is his 1 big regret in his boxing career. He says that Roy never gave him a rematch.
      A focused James Toney I believe is one of the greatest of all time.

    • @Rowlph8888
      @Rowlph8888 2 роки тому +1

      @@boxer3139 So would Calzaghe and don't bothher to respond with US nuthugging.

    • @simpleman283
      @simpleman283 2 роки тому

      @@Rowlph8888 OMG OMG OMG O M G
      O M G O M G
      Calzaghe, there has never been a more useless boxer in all of time. Here at the local track there was this thing for the girls called the powder puff race...

  • @Southpaw11
    @Southpaw11 3 роки тому +76

    One of my favorite fights with amazing commentary. James Toney was robbed of being a first ballot hall of famer this week. A real shame.

  • @stuartchapman7934
    @stuartchapman7934 3 роки тому +43

    This right here is the definition of Greatness.
    This performance from Toney was a fitting testament to the skill, will and courage he displayed throughout his stellar career within The Sport of Boxing, Toney remains among The Best to ever do it.
    IIRC, when asked who was The Most Talented Fighter he's ever worked with, Legendary Trainer Freddie Roach did'nt hesitate . . . James Toney was his choice.

  • @Calel_S
    @Calel_S 2 роки тому +16

    Such a fantastic fight. Mane, when I was younger in competition, James Tony is the one boxer I wish I had studied more. His ability to thump on the inside with such tight defense is brilliant!

    • @hawaiianprestigecars8493
      @hawaiianprestigecars8493 Рік тому +2

      Floyd Mayweather copied tonys style and used it in a chickenwing manner

    • @Calel_S
      @Calel_S Рік тому

      @@hawaiianprestigecars8493 Lmfao!

  • @TheSprinkle27
    @TheSprinkle27 3 роки тому +19

    GOOD FIGHT. BOTH ARE WARRIORS! WAY TO STAY IN IT TO THE VERY END JAMES.

  • @AL3T0
    @AL3T0 3 роки тому +24

    Gotta love the face of the grey haired dude in the back at 14:22 reacting to the low blow lol

  • @ministerward7780
    @ministerward7780 Рік тому +10

    James Toney is definitely a unsung boxing hero.

  • @kramkalisthenics
    @kramkalisthenics 3 роки тому +30

    The announcers called this *all* wrong. But I agree Jirov was "aggressive" the way he attacked JT's fists with his face.

  • @poker4080
    @poker4080 2 роки тому +5

    if ur here in 2022 , not only is this fight amazing , but the whole crowd , and photographers ole school vibe is awesome ! I miss those days!!

    • @JonP1245
      @JonP1245 2 роки тому +1

      Me too boxing kinda sucks now especially the decrease production value

  • @woody_fromda6ix206
    @woody_fromda6ix206 3 роки тому +77

    Man Tony is so criminally underrated one of the best fighters to put on a pair of gloves also in my opinion he had the best chin period I can’t remember a time seeing him get rocked but it’s just sad that he didn’t mange his money properly so he had to fight way past his prime his prime and in the process kind of hurt his legacy on paper but real boxing fans know why he’s record is what it is what pisses me of is the boxing commission who kept renewing this mans license when he clearly suffers from severe cte not to be disrespectful but now you can’t even understand when he talks and again real boxing fans know at his prime Tony could talk and roast the shit out of you with the beat of them what good is the boxing commission a bunch of scumbag crooks they have very view things to do and one of them is the health of fighters and they can’t even do that disgrace to the sport

    • @Snickerszn
      @Snickerszn 2 роки тому +11

      Yeah his CTE is so bad I pray he doesn’t get worse. My dads favorite boxer when I was young was Toney so watched all his fights. He got screwed in a ton of decisions also. Some people don’t understand how good his defense and counter punching is. I met him a couple times was hilarious. He can give it and take it.

    • @stephenkirk1024
      @stephenkirk1024 2 роки тому +7

      Hear hear! Well said, his defense was impeccable, so illusive, he really was criminally underrated.

    • @itzMAAAAM
      @itzMAAAAM 2 роки тому +5

      Toney got rocked bad in the Sam peters 1 fight. Recovered well tho. Won that fight IMO

    • @brocklanders3616
      @brocklanders3616 2 роки тому

      This! I watched that fight live. Peter caught him on temple with a clubbing right hand. He was rocked so bad, he had to grab the ropes to stay up. He did recover well afterwards.

    • @eol6632
      @eol6632 2 роки тому +3

      The punch that hurt him was behind the ear. Peter threw those sloppy punches that came down on the back of Tony's Shoulder and head.
      JT besides everything else had balls and a mean streak in that ring. Dude just wanted to fight.
      The ACL tear while training to fight Jameel MCcline and the biceps tear in his return killed his run at heavy.

  • @mesinha1821
    @mesinha1821 2 роки тому +47

    What a nightmare must be fighting a guy like jirov, that man just dont stop punching even when he’s getting hit a lot with clean shots. All time great fight

  • @richardthompson8961
    @richardthompson8961 5 місяців тому +3

    Epic fight. Toney was something else.

  • @donaldfreeman3433
    @donaldfreeman3433 3 роки тому +50

    Watched this fight at least 100 times.

    • @SolarPlayer
      @SolarPlayer 3 роки тому +2

      ~10 times for me! catching up to you one day

    • @rizkijuliana9014
      @rizkijuliana9014 3 роки тому +1

      @@SolarPlayer p

    • @evilgamer671
      @evilgamer671 3 роки тому +2

      Why???????

    • @loveboxinglucky1716
      @loveboxinglucky1716 3 роки тому +2

      @@evilgamer671 only real Boxing fans know that!! You got alot to catxh on to

    • @danielbullman2035
      @danielbullman2035 3 роки тому +2

      Damn you said why? Did you watch the whole fight it's the best ending of a fight that I've ever seen it's up there with corrales vs Castillo and ward vs gatti all day

  • @rresmini
    @rresmini 3 роки тому +48

    Stellar fight. Phone booth battle where Toney showcases defensive prowess and crushing power. How he hasn't been inducted into the boxing hall of fame is criminal.

    • @hajimuhadi2577
      @hajimuhadi2577 3 роки тому

      P
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    • @hardestout8900
      @hardestout8900 3 роки тому +2

      He is not in retirement. You got to be 5 Years in retirement.

    • @agussudrajat5390
      @agussudrajat5390 3 роки тому

      0@@hajimuhadi2577

    • @felipeebreo132
      @felipeebreo132 3 роки тому

      @@hajimuhadi2577 ppppp~pppp000pppp

    • @robotboy719
      @robotboy719 2 роки тому

      Didn't get in his first year of eligibility. Which was a complete travesty. Got in this year though. Some friends of mine who are voters lobbied hard for him.

  • @glenm99
    @glenm99 10 місяців тому +1

    I love Toney's trainer here. Not jabbering a stream of nonsense, just giving one little piece of quiet advice or encouragement at a time, trusting that his fighter knows what he's doing.

  • @geoffn54
    @geoffn54 3 роки тому +12

    Toney's one of my favourite boxers. His fights against Barclay, Nunn and Jirov are all, for different reasons, classics.

    • @robotboy719
      @robotboy719 2 роки тому +4

      The first two fights against Mike McCallum were amazing also. Highest level of boxing science. McCallum really doesn't get the credit he deserves. Guys ducked him for title shots forever.

  • @nikebox333
    @nikebox333 3 роки тому +140

    Emmanuel Stewart’s commentary in the last minute or so of the 12th is goated

    • @axxell0402
      @axxell0402 3 роки тому +7

      M

    • @lindasulastri7862
      @lindasulastri7862 2 роки тому +1

      L

    • @eliassosa67
      @eliassosa67 2 роки тому

      Que va ser Jones.. el que pelio con holyfeld.. ese teñido hasta la barba es boliviano.. ah y el mike tyson el que le dio la oreja es el de tinelli con el holifild de tinelli también.. hay videos truchos y peleas truchas

    • @inversecramer1044
      @inversecramer1044 2 роки тому +4

      Stewart was surely enjoying this amazing fight

    • @wilfredomaranon2727
      @wilfredomaranon2727 2 роки тому

      Hi hip

  • @stevenbreon7480
    @stevenbreon7480 3 роки тому +9

    Best ring name in boxing lights out.Toney .that was a war little closer on score cards the ring girl rocked .I've been toney fan forever damn good counter fighter.champ.

    • @aspe7187
      @aspe7187 3 роки тому

      James “The Heat” Kinchen and “The Easton Assassin” Larry Holmes.

  • @looc.5677
    @looc.5677 3 роки тому +25

    one of the greatest fights ive seen legendary

  • @joepantoja4067
    @joepantoja4067 3 роки тому +7

    Crazy to see ppl without a phone in their face..

  • @jiji1946
    @jiji1946 2 роки тому +6

    hard to believe H Lederman's take on this, or Lampley's (will the 2 point round have won it for James Toney). don't know much about boxing, but it seemed obvious to me (and the judges too obviously) that JT won this hands down. yes, Jirov is gutsy, but....
    thank you BWW for the good quality upload.

    • @robotboy719
      @robotboy719 3 місяці тому

      An embarrassment. I've watched this fight about a hundred times and it's clear that Toney was landing more accurate and harder shots, and that he really had Jirov hurt any number of times.Lederman should be ashamed.

  • @uvic4027
    @uvic4027 Рік тому +4

    What a fight! I wish I would have watched Toney’s fights growing up. What a great fighter!

  • @syndicoftitan8306
    @syndicoftitan8306 3 роки тому +20

    Emmanuel Stewart's disappointment in Toney's lack of work ethic is hilarious.

    • @robotboy719
      @robotboy719 3 роки тому +9

      Well, Toney wouldn't join Kronk, took Stewart's best trainer (Bill Miller), and beat on his guys constantly, so there's probably some resentment there.

    • @LytesOutMMAHistory
      @LytesOutMMAHistory Рік тому +3

      @@robotboy719 not many are aware of that fact

    • @Master-Wanderer
      @Master-Wanderer 3 місяці тому

      ahah yeah he only sparred something like 300 rounds for that fight...

  • @suaroski_
    @suaroski_ 3 роки тому +16

    I thought commentators were calling him "the silly jirov"

  • @robotboy719
    @robotboy719 2 роки тому +19

    Every time you think Jirov is done, he comes right back at you, like a zombie with half its head blown off and an axe buried in its chest. In the 8th, he really put it on Toney - mauled him, butted him, shoved him...and drilled him in the nuts for an added bonus. The last 90 seconds of that round were probably Jirov's best of the fight and Toney really seemed to be fading. But Lights Out was made for the championship rounds.

    • @sherrillraymond7595
      @sherrillraymond7595 Рік тому

      Lmao dude said drilled him in the nuts for a bonus
      Facts though

  • @sammysantoro9107
    @sammysantoro9107 2 роки тому +10

    This deserved a way bigger crowd

    • @BruteStrength99
      @BruteStrength99 2 роки тому

      Gatti-Ward 1 was in front of a crowd about this size. Sometimes the best fights belong in more intimate settings. Look at the Turning Stone Casino or the Punch Bowl in Carson, California. Or my personal favorite the Grand Olympic in Los Angeles where greats like Jerry Quarry, Bobby Chacon, Pipino Cuevas, Bazooka Limon the list goes on. Small venues I feel like are made for the die hard fan

  • @Toothpick_Bill45
    @Toothpick_Bill45 3 роки тому +8

    Two of the best in the business without a doubt, not to mention both men with hearts of true warriors! One of the best fights your gonna see, make sure and watch every round and then watch it again!

  • @sherrillraymond7595
    @sherrillraymond7595 Рік тому +5

    JT a good chess player in the ring, he don't waste his punches he throws every punch with calculated effects
    Plus the subtle switch from being defensive in the beginning to offensive in the end

    • @MisterVolts
      @MisterVolts Рік тому +3

      Toney was a pugilistic genius. And he LOVED being backed into the ropes. That's when he'd unleash brutal, perfectly timed counter-punches... always on the mark!

    • @sherrillraymond7595
      @sherrillraymond7595 Рік тому +2

      ​@@MisterVoltsfacts

  • @BlackConnection337
    @BlackConnection337 Рік тому +9

    My goodness James can fight.All them shots he took and no cuts. Just a different breed of man

    • @dalegriffin6768
      @dalegriffin6768 3 місяці тому

      Yeah he was good but what happened when Randy Couture beat him down

  • @hamishmitchell884
    @hamishmitchell884 Рік тому +3

    Listening to Emmanuel Stewart at the end is one of the best moments for me.

  • @prukruk2237
    @prukruk2237 3 роки тому +10

    One of the most brutal fights I have ever seen in my life. Now these are serious boxers. They fought so close and had a chance to do the hugging shit but they both refused to hug but kept busy the whole damn time. Not one fucking hug.these men are human lions. The knockdown at the end was a thing of beauty.

    • @robskibulletmovement8998
      @robskibulletmovement8998 3 роки тому +1

      100% agreed no fucking hugging, just punch for punch

    • @venicec3310
      @venicec3310 2 роки тому +1

      Yup no clinching straight phonebooth fighting. Though clinching wouldve been smart for jirov to help him regain his legs and prevented that last min knockdown

  • @jamesdarnell1944
    @jamesdarnell1944 2 роки тому +7

    Ya I miss manny- his love for the sport as well as his knowledge of what fighters go thru is what brings out his excitement in the last minute

  • @cuocsonguc7413
    @cuocsonguc7413 Рік тому +4

    I love the way toney fight and move up and down so smooth

  • @philipmarveltvshow166
    @philipmarveltvshow166 3 роки тому +25

    James toney one one greatest fighters of all time in world boxing 👊💪💕

  • @KTF0
    @KTF0 Рік тому +18

    Jirov fought his heart off. It wasnt enough.

  • @donavonhoward114
    @donavonhoward114 Рік тому +5

    Even though there has to be a winner (unless it's a draw of course), when fights like this take place, there are no real losers because the fight itself becomes almost bigger than the men/women involved. This fight showed the crazy willpower of two men, and the skill to go with it. These are the fights I love most. Two opposing styles from two completely different athletes, but the difference in their styles, and their approaches is what makes a great fight like this possible. If you put two counter punchers together, it can be a snooze fest if you aren't a hardcore boxing fan that knows what is happening. It's when you put a pressure fighter with a high work rate against a more defensive fighter, or you put a heavy handed KO artist against a boxer/puncher that the fireworks start to fly. This fight between Toney and Jirov,, and the Holyfield vs Qawi fight are the best cruiserweight bouts I have ever seen because of the contrast in styles. Actually, both fights might be up there with some of the best fights regardless of weight class, or era.

    • @HkFinn83
      @HkFinn83 11 місяців тому +1

      Agree they’re both winners in a sporting sense, but both losers in terms of what gruelling fights like this do to you long term.

    • @HkFinn83
      @HkFinn83 11 місяців тому

      Agree they’re both winners in a sporting sense, but both losers in terms of what gruelling fights like this do to you long term.

  • @OrangeAviationPlanespotting
    @OrangeAviationPlanespotting 3 роки тому +35

    Correct result by the judges. Lederman's scorecard is a joke. Look at the stat box at 49:00. Although JT threw 220 less punches after 11 rounds, he LANDED 109 MORE punches and almost doubled Jirov's % landed. Throwing more punches won't count for much unless they land. This is a testament to JT's unbelievable defense. It was also clear from Jirov's swollen face at the end of the bout that the more effective shots were thrown by JT.

    • @softbigotry4058
      @softbigotry4058 3 роки тому +13

      This was the first fight for me where I realized in real time that Lederman will score for the fighter literally just for moving forward, more often than not. Toney won 8 rounds clearly (an argument can be made for 9), and Jirov lost two points between the knockdown and that ridiculous low blow...and he STILL had this fight a draw. His scorecard is almost as bad as the judge who scored Mayweather-Canelo even. Jirov was effectively finished as a top fighter as a result of the beating Toney gave him, whereas in his next fight, James moved up to heavyweight and stopped Holyfield.

    • @LowTierFallout
      @LowTierFallout 3 роки тому +4

      Lederman has always had weird scoring.

    • @brudderstyles3479
      @brudderstyles3479 3 роки тому +4

      I think he's just old and senile, he needs eye glasses not only to watch the fight but to read a book on the sweet science

    • @robotboy719
      @robotboy719 3 роки тому

      @@LowTierFallout When my scorecard agrees with his, I start thinking I made a mistake.

    • @Mickieshelton
      @Mickieshelton 2 роки тому +2

      His scorecard was full of shit at the 10th round check in..

  • @savagesavant4964
    @savagesavant4964 Рік тому +25

    Vassiliy Jirov is one of the toughest men I've ever seen.

  • @PennyRDA
    @PennyRDA 9 місяців тому +4

    How Toney starred at Jirov right at the final bell, like as if to say "is that it?".

  • @EvansBrosRacing
    @EvansBrosRacing 3 роки тому +7

    I saw that fight when it happened back in the day and I still don't agree with how far those judges had it apart .

    • @EnduroUK.
      @EnduroUK. 2 роки тому

      have you look at the stats? lol

  • @lumina0297
    @lumina0297 3 роки тому +10

    That was epic. Im at the gym on the treadmill cheering😂😂

  • @tuptugen
    @tuptugen 5 місяців тому +3

    Just listen to the punches...insane inside fighting.

  • @DeusVult6527
    @DeusVult6527 2 роки тому +2

    That was two grown ass men fighting. Nobody should ever question either one of these warriors.

  • @jonathangandy9271
    @jonathangandy9271 2 роки тому +3

    never seen the like of this, a true war, Jirov outclassed but so tough

  • @hman7236
    @hman7236 Рік тому +2

    One of the best fights of all time.

  • @calburner4635
    @calburner4635 3 роки тому +17

    What is amazing is that Jirov, along with Michael Nunn, was the second undefeated southpaw Toney beat using the Philly Shell. I don't recall anyone else ever successfully using it against a world class southpaw.

    • @blackandwhiteart3790
      @blackandwhiteart3790 2 роки тому +2

      Yea I heard it hard to use the Philly Shell on southpaws but James Toney turned that around

    • @poweroftheriff
      @poweroftheriff 2 роки тому +2

      Floyd did it to Pacquiao, Zab Judah, Sharmba Mitchell, Victor Ortiz and Robert Guerrero - all former world champ southpaws 🤷

    • @calburner4635
      @calburner4635 2 роки тому +4

      @@poweroftheriff He tried Philly Shell for a fight and a half. But notice, after two fights he went to high guard against southpaws and got touched heavy them didn't go back to it. Watch the fights then tell if I am wrong.

    • @syndicoftitan8306
      @syndicoftitan8306 2 роки тому +3

      forcing Jirov to square up and infight was key to Toney's strategy in nullifying the southpaw advantage.

    • @BruteStrength99
      @BruteStrength99 2 роки тому

      @@poweroftheriff I loved watching Mitchell fight.

  • @flexgado249
    @flexgado249 2 роки тому +3

    They say the Philly shell stance doesn’t work in a southpaw vs orthodox James proved it wrong.

  • @sylvestergraves7238
    @sylvestergraves7238 3 роки тому +13

    Boxing are a great sport.

  • @Hoffmann3676
    @Hoffmann3676 3 роки тому +6

    Super Klasse!!! J. T. einer der beste Boxer der Welt, aller Zeiten!!!

  • @GodkingAustin
    @GodkingAustin 2 роки тому +6

    Really interesting that the commentary was so skewed in favor of Jirov. This is a fight that shows you what a commentator values most in scoring a fight: Jirov landing the highest number of punches vs. Toney's far more effective aggression with fewer, heavier punches that, while fewer, had a much clearer impact on the opponent. Normally I think judges err on the side of the busier fighter. But this was a case where I think Toney's aggression was just so much more effective than Jirov's that I have a hard time seeing this as anything other than a clear win for Toney. Toney's punches were taking a clear toll on Jirov more and more, and Toney never seemed hurt

    • @BruteStrength99
      @BruteStrength99 2 роки тому +3

      Jirrov was also the Champion

    • @glenm99
      @glenm99 10 місяців тому +1

      Jirov didn't even land more punches; he just threw more. Toney landed over a hundred more punches. Lederman's score card was atrocious.

    • @GodkingAustin
      @GodkingAustin 10 місяців тому

      @@glenm99 A hundred more punches? According to compubox, Toney landed 380 punches to Jirov's 411. I still agree Lederman's score was pretty wack though, Toney's punches had way more impact and I think most judges would probably score similarly to the three official judges here

  • @RaulGarcia-jq9dz
    @RaulGarcia-jq9dz 2 роки тому +2

    That is one of the best fights I've seen both Warriors but hey that's why they call him lights out

  • @hummuna69
    @hummuna69 2 роки тому +2

    Outlandish scoring and I'm a James Toney fan.

  • @albrown1812
    @albrown1812 3 роки тому +17

    I have to say I respect these trainer's,greatly,a ton of respect, specially for the old school.But some of that corner instruction it makes you think,they just fell a little short,they tell the Russian,you have to throw more punches.these guys punch count was already very high,and what's throwing more punches when your hardest shots aren't able to land.what a great referee!!

    • @robotboy719
      @robotboy719 3 роки тому +2

      Agreed. They'd clearly decided coming in that Toney would break from the pace and didn't have a backup plan. To be fair, Brooks tries to get Jirov to punch more effectively. After the first, Brooks says, 'Remember, when he plants that foot, step around. Get a clean shot.' So they tried to prepare for Toney's elusiveness but where do you find a sparring partner who can give you that sort of defensive slickness? Later on, Brooks gives pretty clear advice ('You gotta move your head!') but by that point Jirov is too battered to think. A game dude but he took a hideous beating and was never the same.

  • @sheruffa6032
    @sheruffa6032 2 роки тому +3

    Respect for Both!

  • @dacariice19
    @dacariice19 3 роки тому +6

    One of the best 12th round fights I seen.

  • @ComaToast1
    @ComaToast1 2 роки тому +8

    That last round makes me cry every time I watch it 2 real warriors ready to lay all down

  • @jamesnunnery2014
    @jamesnunnery2014 3 роки тому +8

    You can train a boxer and force him in rough training. Like jirov went through. But if didn't live it all the training in the worlrd won't help.

  • @robskibulletmovement8998
    @robskibulletmovement8998 3 роки тому +9

    Great fight i initially missed the fight watching now a true classic both worriers 👊🏿Toney's precision 👌🏿 he still had it and Jirov work rate tactic was spot on.

  • @dubongros3108
    @dubongros3108 Рік тому +3

    Toney got a raw deal when networks would not stop showing this moment when he looked bad against RJJ. At this moment in his life, Toney would have destroyed Roy in a rematch. A good fighter at any weight.

  • @gdtapawcontrol8958
    @gdtapawcontrol8958 3 роки тому +7

    Only 437 idiots who know nothing about boxing would give this a thumbs down...They would have been better off watching WWE 😂 Great fight from real warriors. 💪🏾

  • @maxart2107
    @maxart2107 3 роки тому +10

    Thank you for this fight in good quality! Please post these fights in the same quality: Evander Holyfield vs James Toney; Hasim Rahman vs Oleg Maskaev - 2;

  • @CoangosMarcianoDavid
    @CoangosMarcianoDavid 3 роки тому +4

    Unsportsmanlike attitude of Jirov, he did not shake Toney's hand.

    • @BruteStrength99
      @BruteStrength99 2 роки тому +1

      And Toney wouldn't Touch gloves with Jirrov before the fight. No harm no foul

  • @KeithWickliffe79
    @KeithWickliffe79 3 роки тому +4

    Jirov had the best entrance music ever!!! 😎

  • @GrowYourOwnGYO
    @GrowYourOwnGYO Рік тому +1

    Favourite fight of mine. Seen it so many times.

  • @Zo_1987
    @Zo_1987 4 місяці тому

    James Toney Boxing skills are just Beautiful, literally breaks his opponents down!

  • @Sleezmania52
    @Sleezmania52 Рік тому +1

    The ref called James name like a pissed off parent 😂

  • @jaayeee24
    @jaayeee24 3 роки тому +10

    That 12th round...WOW!

  • @ByronPeart
    @ByronPeart 3 місяці тому

    That body shot around the kidney in the 12th round by Toney was so devastating and that sets up the knock down.But hats off to both fighters for a brilliant display of courage, Toney shows more experience with his counters and slips.

  • @patrickflug4605
    @patrickflug4605 Рік тому

    James Toney is my favorite boxer of all time. He is as real as it gets.

  • @brentparker3591
    @brentparker3591 3 роки тому +11

    That body shot right at the end really hurt Jirov, he was out on his feet, and when he took that shot to the body I think his head finally just said fuckit we're done.

    • @eliassosa67
      @eliassosa67 2 роки тому

      Canelo es boliviano

    • @venicec3310
      @venicec3310 2 роки тому

      Lol forreal took whatever last reserve of energy away from him

    • @Mickieshelton
      @Mickieshelton Рік тому

      The body shot but the left right hand with same hand shocked Jirov. Didn't expect that.

  • @Boxinggavinmason
    @Boxinggavinmason 2 місяці тому +1

    Great fight what a great boxer toney is !!

  • @craftycounterpuncher2055
    @craftycounterpuncher2055 2 роки тому +4

    Both of these guys are on my all time favorite list, wish JT would have fought more at 190, his most effective weight imo. Jirov also fought the wrong fight here, was capable of boxing but didn’t. Only movers ever beat an in shape Toney.

    • @JonP1245
      @JonP1245 2 роки тому

      Great observation

  • @lawrencemarahi3594
    @lawrencemarahi3594 Рік тому +1

    For sure this was a serious fight

  • @jamesthackeray7421
    @jamesthackeray7421 2 роки тому +1

    That was fantastic fight thoroughly enjoyed it thank you very much👍😉

  • @dfreeman120
    @dfreeman120 2 дні тому

    Watched this fight at least 100 times !!!

  • @bradley8867
    @bradley8867 Рік тому +1

    Toney’s best performance 🎭 masterpiece

  • @eyezonly864
    @eyezonly864 3 роки тому +3

    I swear 🤬James Tony is/was a Serious problem. Hell - a - difficult

  • @JB-zc2zq
    @JB-zc2zq 2 роки тому +1

    Great Great fight, thank you for uploading it. 👍👍

  • @samsam926
    @samsam926 2 роки тому +4

    I don't know what fight Harold was watching. James absolutely dominated the guy. How can he score the fight even with 1 point deduction and 1 knockout.

  • @HeadFargo
    @HeadFargo 2 роки тому +8

    Jirov remind me of Ricky Hatton

  • @jeffkeas334
    @jeffkeas334 2 роки тому +2

    Lampley even lied about the punch stats at the end. 411 for Jirov and 386 for Toney??? How tf when Toney was just winning by over 100 punches with a 45-24 connect percentage!?