Thanks for this! Have a Quest 3 arriving tomorrow and already have nice sim hardware (MFDs and displays, etc) for DCS. I’m excited that I can perhaps integrate both, and that mixed reality is catching on. Appreciate the easy and clean tutorial. Easy like and sub.
Good to see this type of thing making its way into VR. One of my biggest issues with VR is the lack of awareness outside of the headset. This helps with that. I think something like this needs to be implemented in VR out of the box. Probably will be in the future, but for now this is a good solution/stepping stone. Thanks for the video and Merry Xmas.
My wife and I just got the MQ3 and are following your tutorial to set it up. Had to buy Virtual Desktop and Reality Mixer but they weren't expensive. I think we're about ready now and hopefully tomorrow we'll be flying our Fokker D7F sim pod in Passthrough VR with IL2 Sturmovik Flying Circus. We like the WW1 kites. 😊 Stand-buy for what promises to be some very interesting in-cockpit views of these VR dogfights. And thanks for your efforts in producing this video; it's been a lot of help. Cheers!
Love this video, was really helpful setting it up. I was also set up the iPad to work as the mfd in dcs, unfortunately pass through doesn’t seem to like it. For now I’m using pass through and the mfd frame but would love to have it on the iPad, and then use pass through to see that mfd
It's a really good review It's been a great help to me. But I have a question. How do you align or fixed the box position in the game when you run the game?
Reality mixer is designed to work together with Virtual Desktop and Steam. As long as you use Virtual desktop to connect to your PC you can use it on any SteamVR title. Thanks for watching
I tried experimenting with colors a little closer to black and it starts to key out all of the similar colors on screen, making little "invisible" blotches all over the cockpit. It also works well with purples and pinks, but I went with bright green. Thanks for the kind comments!
Looks like a setup that will make VR in sims practical. I can see how using an iPad in VR would work well too. What hardware are you running for your PC?
@@LazerboltVidsthanks for the response. I’m running an RTX 2070 super with 16GB and a Ryzen 7 3800x CPU. When MSFS first released support for VR performance wasn’t great and I haven’t tried it since. I need to try it again and see if it runs better, but trying to figure out if my setup is too old now.
Thanks for this, very helpful. I've been using VDXR and having great results. I followed along and set up some edit area. I noticed when using the steamvr runtime, my frame rate went down from about 60 to 45. Did you have any issues like this? Maybe there some settings I can do?
I don't notice much of a frame rate drop, but there is some strange artifacting on the right side of the screen where the passthrough peeks through if you move your head quickly. I notice it less in game, but on video clips it is very noticeable (I actually cropped it out for this video)
Hello, I know I am late to the party but I have been watching your great instructional video on how to set up reality mixer with virtual desktop via my pc wirelessly to my Quest 3. For some reason I cannot get just the boxes to allow pass through, I get the whole passthrough. I have a screen grab if you let me post it. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks again, I found it once I went through the headset. Got VD and Reality Mixer running and managed to setup three boxes as I needed which was great BUT when I started MSFS it said syncing data for quite a while so I quit that and launched X plane which ran OK and here is the BUT, my three boxes turned solid green. I re-run RM but they still stayed green. Once everything is running ok, hopefully with your help, would I be able to connect with the link cable to my pc? Many thanks for your patience.
Glad to help. I get the solid green boxes issue if I take off the headset for a moment. The only fix for this is to exit Steam VR and re-launch it and RM. You should be able to re-connect to MSFS at this point, but most other games will have to be re-started. I don't think there is a way to use a link cable with this because Virtual Desktop replaces it and airlink.
Thanks, I did get it working but I think it was to do with my WIFI signal. Unfortunately my router is downstairs so I cannot easily connect a ethernet cable so I might use though extenders which connect to mains electric sockets and pass the signal through the mains wiring from the router to the PC. Do you have any thoughts on that? One other question is the green boxes sometimes move out of position a little, all three are correctly aligned to each other and move as one if that makes sense. Is there away to lock their position or is it just a case of editing them in RM? I am Ron and once again I appreciate you taking the time to help me.
I've never used Internet through mains before, but I would be interested in hearing if it works for you. Not sure if there is a better way, but you might have to just re-adjust your camera boxes by hand periodically.
Reality Mixer will always display camera boxes in the same place, so if you move anything, the camera just stays in the same place. There is a way to attach a tracker to an object and then the camera will move along with the object (like a keyboard or something) Luckily its very easy to make adjustments if your camera is no longer displaying the proper stuff.
HI and thanks for the great video. Question, does this require that you run the Steam version of MSFS 2020 or will it also work with the Store version? Thanks
Here's what I found from the developer of Reality Mixer : "You need to run SteamVR, because the app expects and needs the OpenVR API. You can use the app with a game launched outside of Steam, as long as it uses SteamVR as the VR runtime." Hope this helps, and thanks for watching.
Thanks for the speedy response. I followed what you said in your video (which is great because you talk at a normal rate unlike some) but when I wen to the store from within my headset and searched for VD it did not find it. It found a couple of others but not VD. Therefore I did try the one from Steam and I noticed that it said NOT for Quest etc but assumed as it could not be found on Oculus store that it had to be that one, WRONG as I now know. When browsing the web I came across a number of comments which say it was removed in 2021 at the request of Facebook!!! I am stumped hope you can help please.
I still think that the issue is that you're looking for Virtual Desktop on the PC VERSION of the Oculus store. You need to COMPLETELY disconnect from your pc (meaning no link cable or airlink) and search the stand alone, in-headset version of the Oculus store. Only AFTER you have Virtual Desktop installed ON THE QUEST 3 HEADSET will you use VD to connect to your pc INSTEAD of a link cable or air link. Please let me know if this helps
Thanks for the video. I need your advice as firstly I had to download Virtual Desktop from steam on my PC as it did not show up searching Oculus store and then downloaded Reality Mixer from Steam. Secondly, when I run VD from my Quest 3 the opening screen is different to yours in as much menu selection items are down the left side of the window, mine run across the top of the window, also there is no streaming option or VR pass trough or configure boxes/buttons. Therefore I cannot get to the VR pass through configuration window. I am using Windows 11 fully updated and all programs work including MSFS 2020 without any glitches. I take it that you can set it up without flightsim running. Sorry it is a long message, can you please advise? Any help would be very much appreciated 😒
You need to install Virtual Desktop directly onto your Quest 3 instead of installing it on your pc from Steam. Just search for it in the "in headset" store like the video shows. The version of Virtual Desktop found on Steam even says "not for Quest headsets" Thanks for watching
Has anyone else problems with the combination VD & steam runtime in Msfs2020? Vdxr works great, changing to steamvr runtime in VD (which is needed) is unplayable. It stutters horrible with every head movement. In Dcs it works great.... Any ideas?
I need help, i cant get reality mixer to work because the setting for camera in steamvr is missing. If i cant allow permission for it to use camera then reality mixer becomes useless. Just colored boxes. Some sources have said reinstalling usb drives but i dont understand how that would help, any thoughts?
Tried both of these, can't figure it out. Bought Virtual Desktop off steam. There is no setting for Vr Passthrough setting. Maybe this is just for Oculus Meta Headsets. Maybe it doesn't work with Valve Index or I have to figure out how to turn cameras on. Got Reality mixer, run it and I get a fuzzy box behind me, that I can't move or resize in the VR Home.
I found you can get rid of the green lines by dropping the "Edge Width" to zero. It was the setting right bellow the Edge Brightness. This must be new in just the last few days or I somehow mine is different.
Hi there, I've got everything set up as described in your video, but can't get Reality Mixer to run at the same time as MSFS. Can you talk me through the specific steps you take to launch it all? At around 4:30, the video jumps to the cockpit, but it would be helpful to know specifically what steps you take and what your settings are (SteamVR or VDXR in VirtualDesktop? What API layers are turned on/off in SteamVR? What specific order do you launch them in? Are you launching Reality Mixer from Steam or Virtual Desktop? etc.). I've tried so many combinations over the last 10 hours or so, and would really appreciate it if you could explain it to me like I'm an idiot....because apparently I am :)
After following this video and some trial and error, I loaded msfs and steam. Then from within steam I ran the reality mixer app, saw my edits on there, jumped back into MSFS and it was there and working.
Spokechuck gives a pretty good description of the steps here, the only thing I would add is to try making Reality Mixer the active display in the SteamVR environment by clicking it's icon in the tray below.
@@LazerboltVids ok thanks for quick reply. I’ll leave it for now but I’m sure it will come out for various formats. Great video to show what it can do.
Not a fan of Virtual Desktop because it's wifi only, it won't connect through a cable. Any advice for using Steam Link? It doesn't seem to have an option (for me, anyway) to enable the camera passthrough. Thanks. Great video, BTW.
@@LazerboltVids If Virtual Desktop would just allow a cabled connection, I think it would be unstoppable. As it is, unless you have a powerful wifi router (which I don't) that's dedicated ONLY for connecting your headset to your VR PC (which I haven't), the cable is much faster... and even if you have those things, the cable is likely to still be faster. As it is, the standard Oculus tool, using a cable, is a far superior experience for me in DCS and MSFS2020 and X-Plane 12. Steam Link might be a good alternative, but Steam's VR stuff tends to be bloated and bogged down. And, as I said, I don't have an option to turn on pass-through in Steam VR. Probably a setting somewhere... my VR knowledge does not go that deep.
You seem to have been setting up the parameters for a green screen and in the end you just setup a pass through box. Green screen behind controls is what I thought you were doing
I cannot seem to get the reality mixer to work with msfs. I’ve tried various different techniques but have not been successful. Everything is installed and o followed your instructions to the letter. I previously had msfs running with VD and using VDXR and it was beautiful. I’m hoping to be able to see my controls and panels. Please advise. Thanks. Sam
Hi Sam, although the process is pretty simple, there are so many little things that might come into play here, it's difficult to offer any solid help. Perhaps there s something in my recent video on tips, tricks and some basic troubleshooting that might help? I'm sorry I can't be of more help, please let me know if you find a solution.
I have a modest system that still gets the job done: Intel 6 core 12 thread @4.2ghz - RTX3060TI - and 32 gig ram You can get much better nowadays, but this serves me well
Yup, but you still need SteamVR. I have the Steam version so I've never tried it, but all you need to do is start SteamVR first, then launch MSFS. When you enter VR mode in game it should use SteamVR as the runtime. Hope this helps
hi.. is this application works without virtual desktop.. i bought it and do not works.. no camera.. no manuel no explication.. only enable camera in steam vr..this parametre do not exist in the menu.. what can i do??
Hello, I followed your instructions but I have not been able to get MSFS in VR mode... I launch Virtual Desktop from the quest 3, then I launch SteamVR which launches RealityMixer automatically, and I can see the passthrough boxes, great! But then, when I launch MSFS and go into VR mode, I only get the two eye-displays on a virtual flat display... And if instead I run MSFS from SteamVR "Japanese" room, I get a little window that says "next" and gets stuck... Can you tell us how to launch MSFS (from Virtual Desktop or from SteamVR, from the PC or the quest?), which key do you use to go to VR (Virtual Desktop or MSFS shortcut key?), etc. I read somewhere about changing one parameter in a system file, but I cannot find the info. I also read about getting a beta version for RealityMixer or VirtualDesktop, but I don't know which one and how... Thanks in advance
Hi Max, below are the steps I take to fly in VR using Reality Mixer: Also, this video shows how I launch MSFS and VR: ua-cam.com/video/Iuf84-9bqS4/v-deo.html 1. Flight sim is already running and in-flight 2. Put on the Quest3 (no link cable or airlink) and launch Virtual Desktop. 3. On my PC desktop (which I can now see in Virtual Desktop) launch Reality Mixer on Steam. This will automatically launch Steam VR as well. 4. Make sure Reality Mixer shows the things you intend to see in mixed reality. 5. Make MSFS the active window by clicking on its tab. you should see MSFS in a "flat screen" in your headset 6. Press the button that you have set-up as "activate/deactivate VR" . you can bind this to any key in the flight sim options. 7. You are now in full VR. Look straight ahead and press the "camera re-set" button that you bind in the same menu as in step 6 8. Enjoy the magic Hope this helps, and thanks for watching
@@LazerboltVids Thanks for your help. 1 + 2 OK 3: As soon as I launch RealityMixer, either from Virtual Desktop in the quest3, or from the PC with the mouse, the Quest3 displays a virtual white room with many black lines. After a few seconds, the passthrough boxes do appear. However, I cannot leave the white room to go to MSFS from the Quest3: note that MSFS is still displayed on my computer screen, but in the Quest3, I see only the white room, and can only leave it by quitting SteamVR (menu on left controller) or Virtual Desktop (menu on right controller)...
@@maxsilberztein From the bar that opens up when pushing menu on the left controller, you should see a number of tabs representing Reality Mixer and your desktops (they look like little monitors) along with anything else that's running. Press this to focus on a monitor or app that's running. I'm not sure what the white room with black lines is, you should see a dark Virtual landscape like in the video. You might want to disable "Virtual Home" in the Steam VR menu.
@@LazerboltVids I am getting somewhere... I set the Virtual Desktop Streamer "Bindings OpenXR Runtime" to SteamVR, I made sure to move SteamVR little window to the same monitor screen as the one MSFS running on, and I used MSFS "Switch to VR" shortcut instead of Virtual Desktop Switch to VR shortcut and I finally got both MSFS in VR and RealityMixer passthrough box! Still not sure if I need to launch MSFS from SteamVR instead of running it first or launching it from Virtual Desktop... Also, I cannot figure out how to move/edit the passthrough box from inside MSFS, as I cannot go back to RealityMixer without killing MSFS, as SteamVR tab is hidden behind the passthrough...
@@maxsilberztein Ok, now you're starting to lose me... I've never done ANY of the things you describe here, I follow the steps that I listed earlier exactly.
Hi, I think I found a problem with Reality Mixer and jitters. Any time I have Reality Mixer turned on, i get jitters in VR. I can turn Reality Mixer off and the jitters stop. Haven’t you seen this? I posted this to the Steam Community page for Reality Mixer but the developer hasnt responded.
Hi Richard, I haven't noticed much of a frame rate drop or jitters, but I do see some weird artifacting on the right hand side of the FOV when I turn my head fast. As if the passthrough is trying to peek through at the edge. I just assumed that this is more to do with the passthrough and not necessarily Reality Mixer. Hopefully the dev is aware of such things and will work on it.
@@LazerboltVids I think my corrected question would be, have you tried to run it via link cable along side virtual desktop? My wireless connection isn’t too strong so I’m stuck to using a 3rd party link cable
@@LouisianaRAPTER I haven't tried running Virtual Desktop while using a cable. But I suspect that you can't use them together because each is meant to replace the other.
I have a quite similar problem. Msfs2020 works with Vdxr but not with VD steamvr. When I switch to vr, monitor changes to 2 eyes, but steam vr keeps on "starting"... Any ideas? Works great with dcs or ams2
I re-installed the sim. Now steamvr works, but in the VD version it stutters extremely when I love my head even with 40 fps w/o asw activated. Curiously VDXR works and steam link also. Only VD on steamvr runtime has this problem....
@@Windsurfer7607 I got it to sorta work by: 1. select SteamVR as API in VD. 2. In SteamVR, disable the OpenXR Toolkit API layer. 3. Launch MSFS up to fully in cockpit (after clicking "Fly" button) 4. Go back into SteamVR app and launch RealityMixer 5. Back to MSFS and switch to VR mode. NOTE: BECAUSE OF STEP #2, I'M NOT ABLE TO RUN OPENXR TOOLKIT AT THE SAME TIME AS REALITYMIXER. I can get OpenXR Toolkit back if I re-enable the API layer in SteamVR, but then RealityMixer won't work. It's either-or for me. I love the idea of RealityMixer and will keep an eye on it, but for now I think I might go without it until it gets some more updates (compatibility with OpenXR most importantly, use of webcams and better box tracking would be bonus points). Right now I'm getting way better performance selecting the SteamVR API within VD. The VDXR option is producing some weird tearing at the edges of the display whenever I quickly move my head...it almost looks like a sliver of pass-through on the farthest right/left hand side when moving my head side to side.
I don't know what I'm doing wrong... 1.- I enter VD setup, I select magenta and enable passthroug... OK 2.- I enter "Launch SteamVR" and enter Steam virtual world... OK 3.- Left controller menu and launch Reality Mixer... OK 4.- Set boxes and see Mixed Reality cameras in Steam virtual world... OK 5.- Select desktop in SteamVR menu and launch FS... OK 6.- Once in FS, when I try to switch to VR mode, all cameras boxes disappear... ???
@@RealityInside That was it!! I changed from VDXR to SteamVR in Virtual Desktop setup and it worked!! The pity is that the image quality gets much worse, but in exchange I can see my hands and my kneeboard, which is what I need to get as close as possible to the real flight... in a couple of weeks I will receive my Q3s... I hope That makes me go one step further... Thank you!!
Wrong way around. Why can't I have have a virtual representation of my devices inside the cockpit? It would not be a grainy image but a quality 3d render. Next step... Physical devices become just tactile stand-ins for the visible virtual device. Then once trackers are more common each device can be moved and tracked.
You totally missed the point. It's not so much about being able to SEE stuff as it is to INTERACT with real world controls. In a real cockpit you're using your hands to turn knobs and flip switches, not figuring just how to point a fiddly VR controller.
The set up showing up your cool buttons was nice, but drinking coffee in VR really sold it. This is the future, right now!
You have a really happy pleasing voice for this! A useful and enjoyable video 👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks for this! Have a Quest 3 arriving tomorrow and already have nice sim hardware (MFDs and displays, etc) for DCS. I’m excited that I can perhaps integrate both, and that mixed reality is catching on. Appreciate the easy and clean tutorial. Easy like and sub.
Good to see this type of thing making its way into VR. One of my biggest issues with VR is the lack of awareness outside of the headset. This helps with that. I think something like this needs to be implemented in VR out of the box. Probably will be in the future, but for now this is a good solution/stepping stone. Thanks for the video and Merry Xmas.
My wife and I just got the MQ3 and are following your tutorial to set it up. Had to buy Virtual Desktop and Reality Mixer but they weren't expensive. I think we're about ready now and hopefully tomorrow we'll be flying our Fokker D7F sim pod in Passthrough VR with IL2 Sturmovik Flying Circus. We like the WW1 kites. 😊 Stand-buy for what promises to be some very interesting in-cockpit views of these VR dogfights. And thanks for your efforts in producing this video; it's been a lot of help. Cheers!
I'm glad i saw your video my friend! This is exactly what I need.
being unable to see my controls was my biggest hurdle for pcvr simming, thank you for the video!
I'm loving mixed reality in MSFS, I've got full cessna 152 set up on the go, it's a great way to play!
Fast explanation thank you
Love this video, was really helpful setting it up. I was also set up the iPad to work as the mfd in dcs, unfortunately pass through doesn’t seem to like it. For now I’m using pass through and the mfd frame but would love to have it on the iPad, and then use pass through to see that mfd
It's a really good review
It's been a great help to me.
But I have a question.
How do you align or fixed the box position in the game when you run the game?
the snacks part had me laughing great video tho
Thank you for the video. Its great. So if you use Virtual Desktop I guess you can't use the reality mixer with pcvr?
Reality mixer is designed to work together with Virtual Desktop and Steam. As long as you use Virtual desktop to connect to your PC you can use it on any SteamVR title. Thanks for watching
Maybe change the green to dark blue? It might blend better with the black. 🤷🏼♀️ Another cool, and informative video! 🍩chomp😂
I tried experimenting with colors a little closer to black and it starts to key out all of the similar colors on screen, making little "invisible" blotches all over the cockpit. It also works well with purples and pinks, but I went with bright green.
Thanks for the kind comments!
Looks like a setup that will make VR in sims practical. I can see how using an iPad in VR would work well too. What hardware are you running for your PC?
Intel Core i7-8700 @4.2ghz - RTX3060TI - and 32 gig ram
@@LazerboltVidsthanks for the response. I’m running an RTX 2070 super with 16GB and a Ryzen 7 3800x CPU. When MSFS first released support for VR performance wasn’t great and I haven’t tried it since. I need to try it again and see if it runs better, but trying to figure out if my setup is too old now.
Could the mixer be used through open composite not to have to launched the steam VR environment for those that use openXR?
Ca't seem to get it to work with an HP Reveb G2. In VR desktop there is no streaming tab.
Could an alternate camera be used? I have a Varjo Aero and interested in afixing a camera to the headset for this
Thanks for this, very helpful. I've been using VDXR and having great results. I followed along and set up some edit area. I noticed when using the steamvr runtime, my frame rate went down from about 60 to 45. Did you have any issues like this? Maybe there some settings I can do?
I use OpenXR and have a descent framerate, it's smooth at least. There are settings in Virtual Desktop that may be worth looking into.
That looks very Nice solution! Does it any impact to perfomance?
I don't notice much of a frame rate drop, but there is some strange artifacting on the right side of the screen where the passthrough peeks through if you move your head quickly. I notice it less in game, but on video clips it is very noticeable (I actually cropped it out for this video)
Hello, I know I am late to the party but I have been watching your great instructional video on how to set up reality mixer with virtual desktop via my pc wirelessly to my Quest 3. For some reason I cannot get just the boxes to allow pass through, I get the whole passthrough.
I have a screen grab if you let me post it.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks again, I found it once I went through the headset. Got VD and Reality Mixer running and managed to setup three boxes as I needed which was great BUT when I started MSFS it said syncing data for quite a while so I quit that and launched X plane which ran OK and here is the BUT, my three boxes turned solid green. I re-run RM but they still stayed green. Once everything is running ok, hopefully with your help, would I be able to connect with the link cable to my pc? Many thanks for your patience.
Glad to help. I get the solid green boxes issue if I take off the headset for a moment. The only fix for this is to exit Steam VR and re-launch it and RM. You should be able to re-connect to MSFS at this point, but most other games will have to be re-started. I don't think there is a way to use a link cable with this because Virtual Desktop replaces it and airlink.
Thanks, I did get it working but I think it was to do with my WIFI signal. Unfortunately my router is downstairs so I cannot easily connect a ethernet cable so I might use though extenders which connect to mains electric sockets and pass the signal through the mains wiring from the router to the PC. Do you have any thoughts on that? One other question is the green boxes sometimes move out of position a little, all three are correctly aligned to each other and move as one if that makes sense. Is there away to lock their position or is it just a case of editing them in RM? I am Ron and once again I appreciate you taking the time to help me.
I've never used Internet through mains before, but I would be interested in hearing if it works for you. Not sure if there is a better way, but you might have to just re-adjust your camera boxes by hand periodically.
This is a good video. So if your setup is not permanent, you have to setup in the boxes each time?
Reality Mixer will always display camera boxes in the same place, so if you move anything, the camera just stays in the same place. There is a way to attach a tracker to an object and then the camera will move along with the object (like a keyboard or something)
Luckily its very easy to make adjustments if your camera is no longer displaying the proper stuff.
@@LazerboltVids thanks for your response
HI and thanks for the great video. Question, does this require that you run the Steam version of MSFS 2020 or will it also work with the Store version? Thanks
Here's what I found from the developer of Reality Mixer : "You need to run SteamVR, because the app expects and needs the OpenVR API.
You can use the app with a game launched outside of Steam, as long as it uses SteamVR as the VR runtime." Hope this helps, and thanks for watching.
Thanks for the info. I'll give it a try
@wingnutnb did it work with Store version? Thanks
is it possible open downloaded video in mixed reality on oculus 3?(video not have green screen)
Thanks for the speedy response. I followed what you said in your video (which is great because you talk at a normal rate unlike some) but when I wen to the store from within my headset and searched for VD it did not find it. It found a couple of others but not VD. Therefore I did try the one from Steam and I noticed that it said NOT for Quest etc but assumed as it could not be found on Oculus store that it had to be that one, WRONG as I now know. When browsing the web I came across a number of comments which say it was removed in 2021 at the request of Facebook!!! I am stumped hope you can help please.
I still think that the issue is that you're looking for Virtual Desktop on the PC VERSION of the Oculus store. You need to COMPLETELY disconnect from your pc (meaning no link cable or airlink) and search the stand alone, in-headset version of the Oculus store. Only AFTER you have Virtual Desktop installed ON THE QUEST 3 HEADSET will you use VD to connect to your pc INSTEAD of a link cable or air link. Please let me know if this helps
Thanks for the video. I need your advice as firstly I had to download Virtual Desktop from steam on my PC as it did not show up searching Oculus store and then downloaded Reality Mixer from Steam. Secondly, when I run VD from my Quest 3 the opening screen is different to yours in as much menu selection items are down the left side of the window, mine run across the top of the window, also there is no streaming option or VR pass trough or configure boxes/buttons. Therefore I cannot get to the VR pass through configuration window. I am using Windows 11 fully updated and all programs work including MSFS 2020 without any glitches. I take it that you can set it up without flightsim running. Sorry it is a long message, can you please advise? Any help would be very much appreciated 😒
You need to install Virtual Desktop directly onto your Quest 3 instead of installing it on your pc from Steam. Just search for it in the "in headset" store like the video shows. The version of Virtual Desktop found on Steam even says "not for Quest headsets"
Thanks for watching
Has anyone else problems with the combination VD & steam runtime in Msfs2020? Vdxr works great, changing to steamvr runtime in VD (which is needed) is unplayable. It stutters horrible with every head movement.
In Dcs it works great.... Any ideas?
Cool! How much fps hit do you get?
none that I noticed.
Just make the border lines a darker neutral color like dark grey.
I need help, i cant get reality mixer to work because the setting for camera in steamvr is missing. If i cant allow permission for it to use camera then reality mixer becomes useless. Just colored boxes. Some sources have said reinstalling usb drives but i dont understand how that would help, any thoughts?
Tried both of these, can't figure it out. Bought Virtual Desktop off steam. There is no setting for Vr Passthrough setting. Maybe this is just for Oculus Meta Headsets. Maybe it doesn't work with Valve Index or I have to figure out how to turn cameras on. Got Reality mixer, run it and I get a fuzzy box behind me, that I can't move or resize in the VR Home.
I found you can get rid of the green lines by dropping the "Edge Width" to zero. It was the setting right bellow the Edge Brightness. This must be new in just the last few days or I somehow mine is different.
Yours must be different. You can see how I slide the "edge width" to zero right in the video.
What if you made the color of the box black, instead of green- would that make those thin green lines virtually appear to go away?
Unfortunately, that would key out everything on screen that's black and make it all see-through.
Hi there, I've got everything set up as described in your video, but can't get Reality Mixer to run at the same time as MSFS. Can you talk me through the specific steps you take to launch it all? At around 4:30, the video jumps to the cockpit, but it would be helpful to know specifically what steps you take and what your settings are (SteamVR or VDXR in VirtualDesktop? What API layers are turned on/off in SteamVR? What specific order do you launch them in? Are you launching Reality Mixer from Steam or Virtual Desktop? etc.). I've tried so many combinations over the last 10 hours or so, and would really appreciate it if you could explain it to me like I'm an idiot....because apparently I am :)
After following this video and some trial and error, I loaded msfs and steam. Then from within steam I ran the reality mixer app, saw my edits on there, jumped back into MSFS and it was there and working.
Spokechuck gives a pretty good description of the steps here, the only thing I would add is to try making Reality Mixer the active display in the SteamVR environment by clicking it's icon in the tray below.
I use VDXR in VD. Do you have to have steam VR running to use VD and the mixer at same time? SteamVR runtime is a killer for me.
Reality Mixer is only for Steam at the moment.
@@LazerboltVids ok thanks for quick reply. I’ll leave it for now but I’m sure it will come out for various formats. Great video to show what it can do.
Does this work in XPlane?
Not a fan of Virtual Desktop because it's wifi only, it won't connect through a cable. Any advice for using Steam Link? It doesn't seem to have an option (for me, anyway) to enable the camera passthrough. Thanks. Great video, BTW.
It would be nice if they added pass through Options while using a cable, perhaps someday they will.
@@LazerboltVids If Virtual Desktop would just allow a cabled connection, I think it would be unstoppable. As it is, unless you have a powerful wifi router (which I don't) that's dedicated ONLY for connecting your headset to your VR PC (which I haven't), the cable is much faster... and even if you have those things, the cable is likely to still be faster. As it is, the standard Oculus tool, using a cable, is a far superior experience for me in DCS and MSFS2020 and X-Plane 12. Steam Link might be a good alternative, but Steam's VR stuff tends to be bloated and bogged down. And, as I said, I don't have an option to turn on pass-through in Steam VR. Probably a setting somewhere... my VR knowledge does not go that deep.
You seem to have been setting up the parameters for a green screen and in the end you just setup a pass through box. Green screen behind controls is what I thought you were doing
I cannot seem to get the reality mixer to work with msfs. I’ve tried various different techniques but have not been successful. Everything is installed and o followed your instructions to the letter. I previously had msfs running with VD and using VDXR and it was beautiful. I’m hoping to be able to see my controls and panels. Please advise. Thanks. Sam
Hi Sam, although the process is pretty simple, there are so many little things that might come into play here, it's difficult to offer any solid help. Perhaps there s something in my recent video on tips, tricks and some basic troubleshooting that might help? I'm sorry I can't be of more help, please let me know if you find a solution.
Any chance you can let us know what your computer setup is, ie cpu, graphics card?
I have a modest system that still gets the job done: Intel 6 core 12 thread @4.2ghz - RTX3060TI - and 32 gig ram
You can get much better nowadays, but this serves me well
Great Video.I have the MSFS 2020 pc edition not through Steam. Would the virtual desktop and reality mixer work for me? Thanx : )
Yup, but you still need SteamVR. I have the Steam version so I've never tried it, but all you need to do is start SteamVR first, then launch MSFS. When you enter VR mode in game it should use SteamVR as the runtime. Hope this helps
@@LazerboltVids Thank you much !!
Does reality mixer only work with steam version of MSFS or does it work with store version
You can use the app with a game launched outside of Steam, as long as it uses SteamVR as the VR runtime.
maybee changing the green color to the same grey of the instrument will help
unfortunately that would make everything that is grey disappear.
tried for hrs no luck create boxes cant delete
hi.. is this application works without virtual desktop.. i bought it and do not works.. no camera.. no manuel no explication.. only enable camera in steam vr..this parametre do not exist in the menu.. what can i do??
Hello, I followed your instructions but I have not been able to get MSFS in VR mode... I launch Virtual Desktop from the quest 3, then I launch SteamVR which launches RealityMixer automatically, and I can see the passthrough boxes, great! But then, when I launch MSFS and go into VR mode, I only get the two eye-displays on a virtual flat display... And if instead I run MSFS from SteamVR "Japanese" room, I get a little window that says "next" and gets stuck...
Can you tell us how to launch MSFS (from Virtual Desktop or from SteamVR, from the PC or the quest?), which key do you use to go to VR (Virtual Desktop or MSFS shortcut key?), etc. I read somewhere about changing one parameter in a system file, but I cannot find the info. I also read about getting a beta version for RealityMixer or VirtualDesktop, but I don't know which one and how...
Thanks in advance
Hi Max, below are the steps I take to fly in VR using Reality Mixer: Also, this video shows how I launch MSFS and VR: ua-cam.com/video/Iuf84-9bqS4/v-deo.html
1. Flight sim is already running and in-flight
2. Put on the Quest3 (no link cable or airlink) and launch Virtual Desktop.
3. On my PC desktop (which I can now see in Virtual Desktop) launch Reality Mixer on Steam. This will automatically launch Steam VR as well.
4. Make sure Reality Mixer shows the things you intend to see in mixed reality.
5. Make MSFS the active window by clicking on its tab. you should see MSFS in a "flat screen" in your headset
6. Press the button that you have set-up as "activate/deactivate VR" . you can bind this to any key in the flight sim options.
7. You are now in full VR. Look straight ahead and press the "camera re-set" button that you bind in the same menu as in step 6
8. Enjoy the magic
Hope this helps, and thanks for watching
@@LazerboltVids
Thanks for your help.
1 + 2 OK
3: As soon as I launch RealityMixer, either from Virtual Desktop in the quest3, or from the PC with the mouse, the Quest3 displays a virtual white room with many black lines. After a few seconds, the passthrough boxes do appear. However, I cannot leave the white room to go to MSFS from the Quest3: note that MSFS is still displayed on my computer screen, but in the Quest3, I see only the white room, and can only leave it by quitting SteamVR (menu on left controller) or Virtual Desktop (menu on right controller)...
@@maxsilberztein From the bar that opens up when pushing menu on the left controller, you should see a number of tabs representing Reality Mixer and your desktops (they look like little monitors) along with anything else that's running. Press this to focus on a monitor or app that's running. I'm not sure what the white room with black lines is, you should see a dark Virtual landscape like in the video. You might want to disable "Virtual Home" in the Steam VR menu.
@@LazerboltVids I am getting somewhere... I set the Virtual Desktop Streamer "Bindings OpenXR Runtime" to SteamVR, I made sure to move SteamVR little window to the same monitor screen as the one MSFS running on, and I used MSFS "Switch to VR" shortcut instead of Virtual Desktop Switch to VR shortcut and I finally got both MSFS in VR and RealityMixer passthrough box! Still not sure if I need to launch MSFS from SteamVR instead of running it first or launching it from Virtual Desktop... Also, I cannot figure out how to move/edit the passthrough box from inside MSFS, as I cannot go back to RealityMixer without killing MSFS, as SteamVR tab is hidden behind the passthrough...
@@maxsilberztein Ok, now you're starting to lose me... I've never done ANY of the things you describe here, I follow the steps that I listed earlier exactly.
Hi, I think I found a problem with Reality Mixer and jitters. Any time I have Reality Mixer turned on, i get jitters in VR. I can turn Reality Mixer off and the jitters stop. Haven’t you seen this? I posted this to the Steam Community page for Reality Mixer but the developer hasnt responded.
Hi Richard, I haven't noticed much of a frame rate drop or jitters, but I do see some weird artifacting on the right hand side of the FOV when I turn my head fast. As if the passthrough is trying to peek through at the edge. I just assumed that this is more to do with the passthrough and not necessarily Reality Mixer. Hopefully the dev is aware of such things and will work on it.
That's indeed the passthrough part, which runs on the Quest. Only Meta can fix that. @@LazerboltVids
Know if it works via link cable without having to deal with virtual desktop?
It requires Virtual Desktops ability to key out colors.
@@LazerboltVids I think my corrected question would be, have you tried to run it via link cable along side virtual desktop? My wireless connection isn’t too strong so I’m stuck to using a 3rd party link cable
@@LouisianaRAPTER I haven't tried running Virtual Desktop while using a cable. But I suspect that you can't use them together because each is meant to replace the other.
I cant get the msfs to work with steam vr and virtual desktop, any tips? Works fine with airlink.
I have a quite similar problem. Msfs2020 works with Vdxr but not with VD steamvr. When I switch to vr, monitor changes to 2 eyes, but steam vr keeps on "starting"... Any ideas?
Works great with dcs or ams2
exactly the same situation here@@Windsurfer7607
I'm having the exact same issue. Any ideas?
I re-installed the sim. Now steamvr works, but in the VD version it stutters extremely when I love my head even with 40 fps w/o asw activated.
Curiously VDXR works and steam link also. Only VD on steamvr runtime has this problem....
@@Windsurfer7607 I got it to sorta work by: 1. select SteamVR as API in VD. 2. In SteamVR, disable the OpenXR Toolkit API layer. 3. Launch MSFS up to fully in cockpit (after clicking "Fly" button) 4. Go back into SteamVR app and launch RealityMixer 5. Back to MSFS and switch to VR mode. NOTE: BECAUSE OF STEP #2, I'M NOT ABLE TO RUN OPENXR TOOLKIT AT THE SAME TIME AS REALITYMIXER. I can get OpenXR Toolkit back if I re-enable the API layer in SteamVR, but then RealityMixer won't work. It's either-or for me. I love the idea of RealityMixer and will keep an eye on it, but for now I think I might go without it until it gets some more updates (compatibility with OpenXR most importantly, use of webcams and better box tracking would be bonus points). Right now I'm getting way better performance selecting the SteamVR API within VD. The VDXR option is producing some weird tearing at the edges of the display whenever I quickly move my head...it almost looks like a sliver of pass-through on the farthest right/left hand side when moving my head side to side.
When starting up Reality mixer from steam no reality mixer screen comes up. Just doesn't work at all...
Open the SteamVR dashboard and click the icon for Reality Mixer (a small box).
Thanks for replying. I re installed Reality Mixer which resolved things. @@RealityInside
are quest 2 compatible too ?
Apparently, you can if you set High Quality and 90fps in Virtual Desktop. It will be black and white and low rez, but it should work.
@@LazerboltVids thank you. what is your graphic card ?? i have a 3060TI is it enough ?
@@febriyohanesaldiwicaksono6270 Thats exactly what I have.
@@LazerboltVids wow cool!! I'll try it
I don't know what I'm doing wrong...
1.- I enter VD setup, I select magenta and enable passthroug... OK
2.- I enter "Launch SteamVR" and enter Steam virtual world... OK
3.- Left controller menu and launch Reality Mixer... OK
4.- Set boxes and see Mixed Reality cameras in Steam virtual world... OK
5.- Select desktop in SteamVR menu and launch FS... OK
6.- Once in FS, when I try to switch to VR mode, all cameras boxes disappear... ???
Your MSFS seems to use another OpenXR runtime, not Steam's. You need the Steam OpenXR runtime to use Reality Mixer.
@@RealityInside That was it!! I changed from VDXR to SteamVR in Virtual Desktop setup and it worked!! The pity is that the image quality gets much worse, but in exchange I can see my hands and my kneeboard, which is what I need to get as close as possible to the real flight... in a couple of weeks I will receive my Q3s... I hope That makes me go one step further... Thank you!!
Wrong way around. Why can't I have have a virtual representation of my devices inside the cockpit? It would not be a grainy image but a quality 3d render.
Next step... Physical devices become just tactile stand-ins for the visible virtual device.
Then once trackers are more common each device can be moved and tracked.
You totally missed the point. It's not so much about being able to SEE stuff as it is to INTERACT with real world controls. In a real cockpit you're using your hands to turn knobs and flip switches, not figuring just how to point a fiddly VR controller.