Indiana Jones Adventure Series - What went wrong and is the line dead??
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2023
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In this video we look at the Indiana Jones Adventure Series manufactured by Hasbro, what has happened with the figure line and whether or not it’ll continue.
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This has been a fantastic line with great likenesses, detail & accessories. It't be a crying shame if they didn''t carry on for a few more waves and give us the main characters that are still missing.
Completely agree, thanks for watching 😎
Unfortunately, Indiana Jones figures are a niche compared to other franchises and are only produced when capitalising on a new film 😕 shame really, as i was hoping for them to do more.
But I'm thankful to have my Raiders Indy and Toht figure
No Mola Ram and every character that wore a suit was made..that's what went wrong
As an Indian I would have been really happy, but getting the rights for the likeness would have been one of the point, as Mr. Ambrish Puri passed away back in 2005.
They did it in 2009 I believe.@@Mr767267
Sadly, it was doomed from the start. Recent and upcoming films and shows generate interest in action figures. You can't anchor a toy line to a film like Dial of Destiny and expect results.
We need a third party company to fill in the gaps with none TM characters, such as German soldier, German officer, Indian Cultist, Indian Cultist leader etc etc etc.
You mentioned that these are not meant for kids based on the pricing etc., yet the package is marked for kids 4+ years age. Hasbro may have to rethink about certain different branding for adult collectors and also may loose a certain market share due to the rebranding. Just my thoughts.
The best way out would be Pulse exclusives for all those pending figures...especially Mola Ram.
They should have just improved the old 3.75" figures and released them again.
As a crystal skull fan I am annoyed they flat out ignored it. I personally would like a Mutt, Willie and Crystal skull accessory to finish the base display. But I don’t know if hasbro would do that. I would like at the very least for their to be a crystal skull accessory to complete the set of mcguffins (don’t care for the dial.
Agreed, I definitely think they should at least do Indy, Mutt, Spalko and Dovchecho to complete the movies, along with a Mola Ram & Willie. Do a final 6 figure wave with the build an artefact as the Crystal Skull/Skelton with gold throne, then I wouldn’t mind if they stopped after that.
I had always dreamed Hasbro would do a 6 inch line of Indy figures, so I’m very grateful for what we got with the Adventure series and Retro collection.
The characters that I still want from this line include:
RAIDERS
*Colonel Dietrich
*Indiana(German Disguise)
*Marion(White Dress)
*German Mechanic
*Cairo Swordsman
TEMPLE
*Mola Ram
*Willie Scott(Club Obi Wan)
*Willie Scott(Ceremonial)
*Thuggee Chieftan
*Lao Che
CRUSADE
*Indiana(Young River Phoenix)
*Colonel Vogel
*Sallah(Fez Hat)
CRYSTAL SKULL
*Indiana
*Mutt Williams
*Irina Spalko
*George "Mac" McHale
*Dovchenko
Unfortunately, Idk if this line is completely dead or not, which is a true shame. It has so much potential. Mola Ram & Willie Scott are a MUST. The line feels truly incomplete without them.
Some great choices there, throw in a Build An Artefact Crystal Skeleton with throne for the KOTCS wave and it’d sell! Sadly don’t think Hasbro are interested in any more Indy figures.
@@beardedgeektoyreviews836 Absolutely. In a perfect world, the KOTCS figures would build the Skeleton w/ throne Artefact. All of the other figures could easily be sold as retailer exclusives & 2 packs. Possibly a second Artefact build for the remaining TEMPLE figures. But as you said, Hasbro doesn't seem interested in Indy anymore and it's so disappointing.
IMO - Young Indy is an extremely underrated figure that nobody has ever mentioned for this line & I think it's a true shame. We NEED the Cross of Coronado!! It belongs in a museum!!
I couldn’t agree more 👍
The avoidance of key bad guys such as the uniformed Germans, Cairo henchmen, Shanghai Gansters and of course Mola Ram/Thugee cultists was a huge fail and an obvious 2023 politically correct move as these characters were released in the 2011 3.75 line, prior to Disney's purchase of Lucasfilm. This could have been a great line, if they just ignored the PC BS. Its also why we didn't get Willie Scott, because she filled the 'damsel in distress' trope and Disney can't allow that the days. I've avoided the DoD characters and will wait for them to go discount for the artefacts and bin them as that film gave me a renewed appreciation of KoTCS.
I completely agree with you regarding the lack of bad guys for the range.
And me about appreciating KoTCS, lol. Watched it right after DoD and felt much more in tune with the originals... Something I never thought I'd say.
Where did you get that t shirt? I love it.
Also I agree with your points here. I really wish Hasbro atleast gave us one more wave with Kingdom of the Crystal Skull characters like Mutt Williams, Indy 4, Irna, Mac, and of course Mola Ram. Still crossing my fingers for one or two waves. Online exclusives would be great. Great video man.
I already did a kitbash of my own. The Last Crusade face print has the best likeness of Harrison Ford so I popped the head off and put it on the Raiders Indy figure and wow. Awesome figure. Also did a black wash on the whip and its a beauty.
Cheers man, thank you for the comments and for watching. I’ve considered doing a wash on the whips as the colour for them is far too light. The whip that came with the DoD Indy was cast in a darker brown which looked far better.
The t-shirt was from a website called Unique Designs UK, they also sell via eBay.
We can only hope Hasbro have a change of heart and keep the line going, I guess time will tell.
I hated Dial of Destiny. If folks liked it, that is their prerogative and I won't argue with them. However its kind of silly if Disney don't want figures with that kind of stigma when they literally had a Nazi in DoD donning a red arm band with the goal of going back in time, killing Hitler and winning WW2.
Its not like putting out these figures is glorifying them when these guys always get killed in some gruesome fashion.
Hell they even made a figure of Voller.
Its a shame because as you and others have said these figures carry a premium price of $25. Parents aren't buying these for their kids to play with. There is another youtuber who said that kids dont care about toys. They have electronics,.etc. its the guys in their 30's and up that grew up with this stuff that are buying figures.
If Disney is behind it? Its no wonder. Look at the mountains of Star Wars characters cluttering up the likes of Ollies. You can still find figures of Rey on shelves all these years later. I expect the same will be true of DoD figures like Helena Shaw who many didnt like. It was a divisive film. People will buy legacy star wars characters. They will buy legacy Indy characters. They dont really care about the newer characters Disney are putting out. How many Teddy figures do people think they would likely sell versus say...Shortround? And Indiana Jones hasnt had the best franchise care as it is. Whilr Star Wars continued to get comics, books, legacy toys and merch? Indiana Jones had maybe 1 game and 1 book (army of the dead). The last time Indy had any big wave of merch was Kingdom of the Crystal Skull and that film despite its flaws and negative perception performed better on a cheaper budget than DoD.
We should get characters like Mola Ram, Irina Spalko and Mutt.
Kingdom is also unique in that its the only film that had Russian's as the baddies which would bring some variety to the line.
Well said my friend, agree with everything you said about how this range has been managed. Thanks for watching and commenting 😎
@@beardedgeektoyreviews836 Subscribed. I love the Indiana Jones series (save for DoD). But I have always been a bit bummed out there hasn't been the same kind of love/merch that Star Wars has had. I was pleasantly surprised by the Hasbro 6" Adventure series. I wasn't sure what to expect (Raiders Indy was the first I bought). The detail and quality were pretty good. Really liked the weathering on the jacket. I've bought other figures like Figmas and the quality can be hit or miss. My Solid Snake Figma I got in particular was pretty bad. So while I didn't like DoD? I do hope that the line continues to include figures for Indy fans of all kinds.
The Raiders Indy is the figurehead of the line but sadly IMO it is the weakest of the line, especially if you stand him by the SH Figuarts Indy
Would have to agree with that, although the TOD Indy and LC Indy have much better likenesses.
Cracking video Jason. Good breakdown and thoughts. 👍I don't think DOD performed how retailers wanted, and now with the added distribution problems, it makes sense this could well be over with no further projected excitement for Indy products or material. A shame, but it feels the Indy collectables / figures have never really hit the high note. The questionable sculpting of Harrison Ford's face has always put me off; it just doesn't look like Indy.
They should have done five waves. One for each film, with one version of each key character within. Sorted. Not this mish-mash, seemingly random collection.
Thanks for the kind words, yeah Hasbro have pretty much nailed his likeness but some of the other stuff like busts from Gentle Giant or statues from Diamond Select are just nothing like Ford. In this day and age of digital face scanning, it really shouldn’t be that difficult to capture an actors likeness.
I absolutely love this line. Originally I was only going to buy an indiana Jones, Now I'm only missing 3. Yes there are too many indiana Jones's but still no regrets and I payed full price for every one of them. As you point it out the line is missing so many bad guys. What good is a hero without villains? The line was also plagued with very hit or miss on the shelves. I either solve six of one figure or just nothing. Walmart said they were going to carry it but never got one. Marketing was terrible. And that's unfortunate with all the accessories that these figures come with. Thank you for the video. It's nice to see someone else so passionate on the line.
Thank you for watching, that’s what my channel is about, sharing my enthusiasm for the things I buy and collect 😎 At least you could find them in some stores in the US! Over here in the UK, no one bar online stores carried the line and some figures sold out very quickly but I’m close to getting all the ones I want, it’s just a shame it’s doubtful the line will continue.
These figures are probably a decade or two too late, unfortunately. They DID do a pretty good job with these... but I think the line is dead. They certainly won't go very deep into some of the "touchy" characters like the German Mechanic (though they did do him in their retro line?), and they won't go for Young Indy or other areas that get super niche. I won't get a Sophia Hapgood from Fate of Atlantis and that's sad.
This line got me excited until I saw the actual products. I had to design and 3D print my own Indiana Jones figure.
Have you considered getting the S.H. Figuarts Indiana Jones? In my personal opinion is the best Indy figure in the market and excellent accessories. On the other hand, I hope Hasbro continues the line with a redesigned packaging that highlights the figures.
I wasn’t going to but after seeing a few YT reviews, I’m seriously tempted. It’s just the price plus import charges that is potentially putting me off.
That figure is a masterpiece. It's expensive but totally worth the money.
I enjoy this line, but the fact it ended up a series of men in suits kind of limits things. Since they were unwilling or unable to do more diverse characters from Temple and Crusade? Kind of the end. Just look how well received the handful of unique guys like the Grail Knight were received. Also an accessory pack with more artifacts and firearms would have been neat, or a playset (sorry "diarma since we're "adults" now lol). In the end, we got over 2 dozen IJ figures; more than we had a year ago right? Some is always better than none. If nothing else, the line was worth it just to get Henry Jones Sr.
Indeed and there was even scope for some more outlandish figures to be made from the comics and games like the German officer with the robotic arm from Fate of Atlantis game. The Grail Knight is a great figure though, my review of him premieres later today 😎 thanks for watching!!
Do you know if Hasbro has confirmed that the line is dead? Or just the 26 figs being more than 25 :/
No word from them but they’ve had SDCC, Hasbro Pulse Con and several other livestreams/announcements since they announced Indy Wave 3 last June so I guess you could say no news is good news but it isn’t looking good for the range, sadly.
The company and maybe toy companies in general need to market items like this to the collectors only and not mass market. They should also stop anchoring their business model on the success or failure of a film. If they just released good quality figures in a limited run to the collectors market, they would sell out completely at full market price. I saw most of the first wave of these figures at a local Target marked down to $7.50 each. I picked up the Indy figure and am heading back to grab the others if they’re still there.
Agreed, I do think the failure of the range at brick and mortar stores in the US was part of Hasbro’s reasoning for not doing more. But then as I say in the video and as you say here, this line was never aimed at kids or parents, it was only ever going to be picked up by collectors. If Hasbro continued it as online exclusives, I reckon it would still be a success!
@@beardedgeektoyreviews836 Did they even sell them in stores other than Target? In the UK, I also only saw them sold them online or at Forbidden Planet stores
Not only are we missing Crystal Skull characters but if they really wanted to they could also dig into making Young Indiana Jones stuff. The line had so much potential.
Completely agree plus characters from the video games which have some cool villains! Thanks for watching 😎
Great video... I was hoping for more characters as well... They made the german mechanic in retro so they coukd make him into a 6 inch... Along with Indy german soldier disguise, Mola ram, cairo swordsman... etc...
Thank you and yeah, so many opportunities for more figures, be a huge shame if we never got them.
I have seen a total of 3 figures (not characters - FIGURES) - THREE - total, ever since the line started.
Even Star Wars figures seem to have just vanished from store shelves.
Distribution to brick & mortar stores seems to be non-existent.
Agreed, Hasbro’s distribution has got really bad over the past year.
What went wrong with this line is that these figures are in those Hasbro crap blind boxes , as a MOC collector these have zero appeal to me, if I want to look at a picture of a figure I will just look it up on the internet .. if these figures had come in plastic window box where could see them , I would have picked up 2 to 4 of each of these figures to display on my wall .. same goes for D&D 40th , instead I got none. good work Hasbro !!! FU MOC FOREVER !!!
Whilst I agree with you regarding the plastic packaging, it was a huge mistake to get rid of it, especially when they were using recycled plastic anyway! However, out of all the figure ranges, SW Black Series, Marvel Legends etc, I did think the IJ line had the best plastic free packaging, they really looked nice with the artwork and map motifs on them.
I think they tied the success of this line to the 5th movie and not to the franchise history despite the figures being for the prior movies. Loading up the line with just Indy and ignoring key characters was a telltale sign this was not going to last. Not to mention the lack of a con or pulse exclusive. There is a market for these through direct or online retailers if they give us what we want and not cave to Disney hurt feelings politics. Hopefully the franchise continues with a fresh new face in the lead role.
It appears many of these are being clearanced now which is never a good sign for the future of a line. Amazon had a limited time deal on a number of them.
Hasbro pulse also had several on clearance.
I picked up a number of them. At this point i have shortround on preorder. Im just missing...voller, renaldo, elsa, last crusade indy and hypnotized Indy. I may skip cairo Indy. I may pick up professor Indy though.
As usual, Hasbro UK still has them all at full price! I’m keeping my eye out for reductions though once the post Xmas sales kick in.
I love this line but I don’t really ever see it out in the wild.
Agreed, I think the fact it’s not been easy to find hasn’t helped it’s chances of continuing.
in wave one in Toys r us [Quebec] all are available except Indy...
I m not buying anything unless I get him,
who wants to be stuck with just the others?
sad
good show bro
Thanks for watching! 😎
Hasblow was creedy again just like last time with the Indiana Jones 3" line. They simply do not care about fans or collectors only money!
At least the 3.75” line got bad guys and figures from all movies.
No Mola Ram, no army builder goons, no vehicles or even a horse, etc. The whole line just seems rushed and like an afterthought.
I suspect demands made by Disney neutered this line which meant it was done before the first wave ever hit shelves!
@@beardedgeektoyreviews836 Yea, I can't imagine the line would have been so incomplete if George was still in charge.
I really hope this isn't the end of the line. I couldn't give a damn about Marvel, DC or Star Wars figures but I've been desperate for Indiana Jones figures for over a decade. I was too old to get the 2008 line as a kid and too young to appreciate them as an adult. I'm glad they did this line but I just feel like they half arsed it. The 2008 line had more figures and more characters. This had fewer characters and almost half of them were Indy. Also hate that the Lego line might be done too
Completely agree and some of those 2008 3.75” figures go for quite a bit now. It just seems that the amount of Indy figures they included for this range was either to keep costs down or because Disney/Lucasfilm kept rejecting figures like Mola Ram, Col Diertrich or Col Vogel. I suspect the latter which is why 11 of the 25 figures were Indy!!
The Harrison ford likenesses are horrible and look nothing like the wonderful box art. Really wish we got sacrificial Willie Scott and club obi wan Willie Scott. I’m holding out for Marcus set to go on sale. Would love another Cate Blanchett figure but Shia as an actor has become controversial. Not getting Mola Ram in lego or 6in form kind of sucks. I think that atctors family would have appreciated that his legacy from that film be remembered.
I thought the Ford likenesses were good, certainly better once I applied some Matt spray to take away that sweaty appearance some of the figures came with.
Completely agree with the lack of other figures, shame Disney cancelled the Mola Ram figure. It’ll be interesting if the Japanese SH Figarts Indiana Jones range does those figures we haven’t got…
The likeness on indy isnt bad. Compared to some of the more expensive offerings from diamond select. Harrison Ford has a difficult face to capture. Even my raiders sideshow figure from back in the day looks a bit off.
@@Linkman247 I recently opened the Last Crusade Indy. Somehow this figure is just great in the likeness department, so much so that I bought a second one just to replace the face on Raiders Indy. The difference is six days and seven nights.
Maybe a Haslab? Temple of Doom turns 40 next year. I don't participate in corporate funding projects, but additional Indy figures could draw me in... especially Temple of Doom.
Same here but I think a simple Hasbro Pulse exclusive would be enough, we know from leaks Mola Ram was tooled before being pulled so they shouldn’t need a HasLab to fund it, unless it was some huge Temple Diorama with Willie Scott and thugee guards…
@beardedgeektoyreviews836 That's what I was going for: a temple diorama or, better yet, Club Obi Wan with Willie, Wu Han, henchmen, and... Lao Che! The last is my preference, but I'll take anything from Temple or even Raiders. I would love a Pankot Palace dinner layout, but that'd be a bridge too far for most 🤣
@@beardedgeektoyreviews836 Yeah I would definitely buy 2 or 3 Mola Ram and Willie Scott figures
DOD figures were totally not needed
I’d disagree but then I liked the film, I do say that each wave should’ve just from film rather than mix them up as they did with waves 2 & 3 but then I guess the cancellation or Disneys refusal to green light TOD characters probably ruined that plan!
@@beardedgeektoyreviews836you liked DOD well i guess some people have super low standards lol
Yeah this line isn’t really for me, I can’t quite put my finger on it why not…. 🤔 Maybe if I see one in the wild.
I think Hasbro have their hands tide by Disney who are in a similar situation whereby they are scared to offend someone. Hopefully they never realize that the whole Indy franchise is a bit white washed, even having a white Welshman playing an Arab and the only black character I can think of being a pirate/slave trader. 😂
You make some very good points, if they cast a Welshman in a role like that today, there’d be uproar!! 🙈
I've bought the majority of these IJ figures. A pity we can't get those critical characters such as Mola Ram, Willie, Cairo Swordsman or ANY German ! Once again woke rubbish intrudes into our lives and tells us how to think & flinching at anything THEY deem to be offensive. Disney & indeed Hollywood take the "Woke Koolaid" intravenously these days. Here in Australia we can only buy the Indy figures from speciallty stores or Amazon.
Thanks for watching, distribution is one of the main factors I think about why this line hasn’t been as successful as it could’ve been. Also going by Disney’s logic, how is a Nazi major like Toht acceptable yet other characters aren’t? Completely makes no sense!!
Indy Adventure series was and is a great line, but Hasbro is short changing themselves by being woke shitheads .. No Katanga , No Thuggee , No Cairo Swordsman , or Monkey Man , No Germans ..I guess Hasbro has not figured out , these toy are not for kids.. they are for us adults..
I don’t think it’s Hasbro as they produced most of these characters you mention for the 2008/09 3.75” line, I honestly think (and have heard) it was Disney who blocked them from being made.
The Black Series, Adventure Series, Marvel Legends, GI Joe Classified simply won't last, their just to expensive. And not very core centric.
GI Joe will as Hasbro own it outright, the rest are all licensed to them so all it takes is a competitor to come in next time that licence is up for renewal for them to lose them.
Agreed 110%! Indy can't work in hypersensitive 2023 sadly.
Cairo swordsman, mola ram, lao che, wu han, vogel, dietrich, mechanic, hovitos warrior? The woke mafia will never shut up about it.
Then on the other side, we can't have crystal skull figures because of the whiny boomers that cried and soiled themselves over the film. Making those figures would be financial poison. I really want more figures.
Those concept images you showed is what they SHOULD be doing, considering theyve reused the body of obi wan indy for the venice version. I think a couple more as well.
Also, wicked cool shirt!
You sound like you aren’t fully cognitive.
@@stevereynolds5684 Whatever you say, sweetie.
I think the controversy attached to certain characters will be what sells them, hell I even want a Hitler figure, just call him the furor.
I love these figures, but we need more villains. Like molerram, the evil colonel from crusade,Willie Scott club obi wan, the furor Hitler, giant thugee thug,Lao Che. And maybe a knights tomb play set.