I think that would in some instances be pretty effective, YOU DONT need fully armored vehicles, you dont need an infantry unit to protect them, you DONT need air support! You give them a fire mission and how ever many arty units are needed they drive to a in range safe point and start dropping rounds maybe they go 4 or 5 rounds each then pack up and get out before the enemy can pin point their location and return fire, I think in the right circumstance it would be brilliant!
Palestinian children safed, probably, hopefully ... Which projectile/missile was advertised in the latest 007 ?!? Q denied denied the existence of a self-destruct mechanism ...
PH will only use this against insurgents, which I think is overkill as the same function can be covered by towed artillery and firebases. You don't need shoot and scoot capability against insurgents as they cannot hit back with counter-artillery (although this gives the advantage of rapid deployment in the initial stage of local rebellion). Neither the country has robust logistics to keep such war machines supplied. The immediate threat to PH are not insurgents anymore. What PH desperately needs now are land-based, sea-launched and air-launched anti-ship missiles as anti-access area denial against you know who.
@@joemraba7636 aside from the insurgents, they will use this SPHs to a certain Communist Country if they decided to make a land invasion in the Philippines since majority of these will be stationed in Luzon facing the same landing beachhead used by the Japanese during WW2. Agree on your logistics remark that the Philippine Army (PA) and the Philippine Government hasn't fix all these years. Also, the Philippine Army has few rounds of 155m to use against insurgents since they're expensive af for the meager operational budget of PA.
This is a gorilla operations howitzer. Deploy quickly to a random spot, get a few shots off and get the hell out before the enemy rains heavy counter battery fire onto it's general vicinity. Large scale Wack-A-Mole just made the whackers job impossible as this thing is long gone before the enemy artillery gets it's fire solution together.
C'est pas possible il faut mettre une charge adaptée à la distance seule une assistance automatique est possible sinon il serait obligé de tirer toujours la même charge au détriment de la précision. Le rechargement automatique est possible uniquement sur des char à court distance de 4 à 6 km au-delà il faut adapter les charges
I think the ARCHER SPG (Self Propelled Gun) is a better system.. no need to deploy canoneer soldiers on the ground while doing firing missions.. the team consist only a driver and a gun operator.. they dont need to get off the vehicle.. its like a simplest drive and fire system.. everything is done automatically at 100%.. unlike the Elbit SPG Howitzer system, it is a combination and automatic and manual work load..
I mostly agree with you but the archer system relies on other people for target acquisition. Where as this system can be more independent and can finish their mission without outside communication. Just a thought edit: is also much cheaper
Hi, it seems that ATMOS 2000 has too many variants. There are 2 variants based on MAN TGS, at least 2 on the Tatra 6x6 base, and 1 on the MAN HX 8x8 based. What kind of truck did the IDF choose? I knew that IDF discarded the RCH 155 offer by KMW in favor of all-Israeli system. But i haven't learned of any heavy Israeli truck. They will not be puting the ATMOS on the Nun Nun right?
And now the Philippines has ordered 6 of these babies, i can’t wait to see the ATMOS in Philippine Army camo! Thanks Israel!😃🇵🇭❤️🇮🇱 Hopefully DND will order more!
If your enemy is 1500 meters from you, it has no logic to deploy your artillery and shot to a distant point. You are absolutely at a wrong place in the combat.
Panzerhaubitze 2000 and Atmos 2000 are 2 completely different systems, one is meant for high intensity artillery support, one is meant for swift shoot and scoot.
Why do you need heavy armored track and expensive vehicle to fire artillery at ranges of 40km (60km with ER rounds)? These are support units in the rear, not front line units like MBT that need protection. You do not deploy artillery pieces next to tanks. Shoot and scoot tactics, so no counter artillery incoming. Only real threat would be attack helicopters or air strikes getting past front line, but your PZH 2000 is not going to survive that anyway. These are faster, cheaper, easier to maintain and transportable via cargo plane. Most countries don't have unlimited budgets, so spending it wisely is best. A PZH cost 2 to 3 times what these units cost for no tangible advantage. In fact the PZH does not do well in dusty and sandy environments, as we saw with the Dutch in Afghanistan
Tracked vehicles are different and have a higher cost maintenance and logistics system. They have better mobility over rough terrain. Tracked vehicles like this are more simpler to operate and being wheeled can transport over distances and bridges the heavier tracked vehicles may not be able to access. When used well, they can have the same effects for a smaller cost.
auzzef 84 le CAESAR blindé semble plus rapide et économe en mouvements pour seulement 3 servants. Sinon très proche du CAESAR effectivement. La portée est de combien pour ce canon israélien ?
patayin mga bakla If I kill your family members, friends, etc, Seize your lands with backings, Then kicks you out to become refugees, As well as do continuous killings and cutting off basic necessities in your new home @ refugee camp, Will you praise me as being smart?
The Palestinians are not Arabs at all, but they are Canaanites. You poor pig, who has not studied history. Look only at the Israelis and their european features, and look at the Palestinians to know who is the real owner of the land.
For an "autonomous" system it sure needs a lot of humans to operate. And also the word "howizer" doesn't start with an O. The appropriate name would be TMHS.
Morocco army need this 🇲🇦❤️🇮🇱
I think that would in some instances be pretty effective, YOU DONT need fully armored vehicles, you dont need an infantry unit to protect them, you DONT need air support! You give them a fire mission and how ever many arty units are needed they drive to a in range safe point and start dropping rounds maybe they go 4 or 5 rounds each then pack up and get out before the enemy can pin point their location and return fire, I think in the right circumstance it would be brilliant!
Palestinian children safed, probably, hopefully ...
Which projectile/missile was advertised in the latest 007 ?!?
Q denied denied the existence of a self-destruct mechanism ...
Ukraine
If an artillery unit can see the enemy that they need armor for it, then they're doing something wrong.
coming to the Philippines very soon
Welcome to Colombia 🇨🇴 ATMOS.
The PHilippines will have this baby
In 2022 april
PH will only use this against insurgents, which I think is overkill as the same function can be covered by towed artillery and firebases. You don't need shoot and scoot capability against insurgents as they cannot hit back with counter-artillery (although this gives the advantage of rapid deployment in the initial stage of local rebellion). Neither the country has robust logistics to keep such war machines supplied.
The immediate threat to PH are not insurgents anymore. What PH desperately needs now are land-based, sea-launched and air-launched anti-ship missiles as anti-access area denial against you know who.
Botswana already has it
@@joemraba7636 aside from the insurgents, they will use this SPHs to a certain Communist Country if they decided to make a land invasion in the Philippines since majority of these will be stationed in Luzon facing the same landing beachhead used by the Japanese during WW2.
Agree on your logistics remark that the Philippine Army (PA) and the Philippine Government hasn't fix all these years.
Also, the Philippine Army has few rounds of 155m to use against insurgents since they're expensive af for the meager operational budget of PA.
This is a gorilla operations howitzer. Deploy quickly to a random spot, get a few shots off and get the hell out before the enemy rains heavy counter battery fire onto it's general vicinity. Large scale Wack-A-Mole just made the whackers job impossible as this thing is long gone before the enemy artillery gets it's fire solution together.
Probably the most cost effective system around
I can't wait for this to be put to use in my country
Awesome artillery !
Philippines arm forces need this..good choice of the army
We have already placed the order bro🥰🥰🥰 2 batteries 12 mobile units.
We already have the soltam towed howitzer. 5 units.
@Northerner Highlander its 12
It already arrived in Ph. Goodbye NPA
Request granted Paul
I would like to suggest (speaking in british accent) to have Autoloading mechanism of both projectiles and the powder charge
For the safety of the crew
C'est pas possible il faut mettre une charge adaptée à la distance seule une assistance automatique est possible sinon il serait obligé de tirer toujours la même charge au détriment de la précision. Le rechargement automatique est possible uniquement sur des char à court distance de 4 à 6 km au-delà il faut adapter les charges
@@rolandbihot7944 look at the swedish Archer.. 100% automatic, with the ability to chose different charges.. This shown here is just a bad copy.
I think the ARCHER SPG (Self Propelled Gun) is a better system.. no need to deploy canoneer soldiers on the ground while doing firing missions.. the team consist only a driver and a gun operator.. they dont need to get off the vehicle.. its like a simplest drive and fire system.. everything is done automatically at 100%.. unlike the Elbit SPG Howitzer system, it is a combination and automatic and manual work load..
I mostly agree with you but the archer system relies on other people for target acquisition. Where as this system can be more independent and can finish their mission without outside communication. Just a thought edit: is also much cheaper
I'm so excited for 12 units of Atmos for Philippine Army
Me too
I am very exited to not give a fuck
@@aceadventure4183 tf
@@aceadventure4183 xD we dont give a f to you eaither
Marines will figure out how to make a drive by with it!
The Archer Artillery System seems to make more sense.
The ratio cost/effectiveness is the most important factor in every domain
Good job afp
12 of these babies are already in ph.
Elbit don't have any guided 155mm round. No compatibility with Vulcano Katana or Excalibur.
1:57 "multiple simultaneous rounds on target" is easy when firing in a salvo. But I bet these trucks couldn't achieve that individually.
Yes they can, attacking in 3 diferent angles they can hit the very same target at the same time with 3 shots using 1 gun.
Finally! Meron na tayo neto congrats Philippine Army and thanks to tax payers.
Is the Command & Conquer feel of the intro intentional?
Hi, it seems that ATMOS 2000 has too many variants. There are 2 variants based on MAN TGS, at least 2 on the Tatra 6x6 base, and 1 on the MAN HX 8x8 based. What kind of truck did the IDF choose? I knew that IDF discarded the RCH 155 offer by KMW in favor of all-Israeli system. But i haven't learned of any heavy Israeli truck. They will not be puting the ATMOS on the Nun Nun right?
It's a great idea to wear sleeveless t-shirts in the army. Especially in the event of a fire.
looks badass ! and indeed mobility is phenomenal
i still find the Rascal better , if modernized it would be better
Whats autonomous about it?
Goodluck New Peoples Army!
The creeps at the CHR, CBCP and their commie clowns will have a meltdown.
And Now, The Philippines got their 6 units of them arrived at North Harbor.. reportedly transported to Camp Aguinaldo.
Actually 8 arrived, some units have covers :)
Ukraine 🇺🇦 need this...
And now the Philippines has ordered 6 of these babies, i can’t wait to see the ATMOS in Philippine Army camo!
Thanks Israel!😃🇵🇭❤️🇮🇱
Hopefully DND will order more!
Actually 12 are ordered
@I bro we already buy this bad boy If u don't believe it then fuck off
Triggered malaysians
12 unit yung dumating na sa Pinas!
@@ragingbull8024 hinde 8 lang daw, sa 2022 pa yung 4
excellents god bless philippines israel good luck to all modernized more the arm forces of the philippines
pliz admin im from kordistan we nid this wepons
Super, kann ich eine davon haben.?
Any idea for the minimum range to fire of ATMOS 2000
No minimum range. Only rocket artillery has minimum range. Howitzers can hypothetically still be used at point blank.
Touchscreen though?
สุดยอดมากครับรุ่นนี้
Does it come with windows 10 ? I want 4 lol
Manda para o Brasil!
Shoot and scoot tactic to avoid counter artillery batteries.
Lupit pla ang binili ng pinas
по горизонту как наводится?
เรารู้อยู่แล้วว่ามันจะเป็นพื้นที่สังหารเราถึงจัดตั้งหน่วย sapper ขนาดเล็ก
🇨🇴🙏
👍✌🇮🇱👑💪
Is Elbit American company?
Israeli
72 unit dpat kunin pinas self propelle howtzer
Poor man's ARCHER. Probably does the job almost as well though.
21st century catapult.
Welcome to Philippines 🇵🇭 ATMOS 2000 it now already operated by the Philippine Army 🪖. Philippines 🇵🇭 & Israel 🇮🇱 are great friends.
ELBIT SYSTEM AND BRASIL ✨🇧🇷✨ 👍👍
the only problem about that expensive toy is that a single bullet on the engine could disable it.
Good thing this is an artillery piece placed tens of kilometres away from small arms fire then
If your enemy is 1500 meters from you, it has no logic to deploy your artillery and shot to a distant point. You are absolutely at a wrong place in the combat.
Panzerhaubitze 2000 entered the chat:
Oh you still load manually😅?
Did the PZH2000 ask that question while it was back for repairs again ?
Why not just put auto reloader in it. Like in tanks.
Target destroyed , but enemy's survived .
america needs this. tailor it so it can be shot from the cab and replace all paladins with this thing.
Elbit system is Israelis?
There're its branches all over the globe, but the parent company is in Israel.
Yup
Yep
Good! With white phosphorus ammunition and setting Ar@:s on fire 🎇💥
This truck is not half the range of the German HPz2000. This truck is to attack the back street, lol
Panzerhaubitze 2000 and Atmos 2000 are 2 completely different systems, one is meant for high intensity artillery support, one is meant for swift shoot and scoot.
Why do you need heavy armored track and expensive vehicle to fire artillery at ranges of 40km (60km with ER rounds)?
These are support units in the rear, not front line units like MBT that need protection. You do not deploy artillery pieces next to tanks. Shoot and scoot tactics, so no counter artillery incoming. Only real threat would be attack helicopters or air strikes getting past front line, but your PZH 2000 is not going to survive that anyway.
These are faster, cheaper, easier to maintain and transportable via cargo plane. Most countries don't have unlimited budgets, so spending it wisely is best. A PZH cost 2 to 3 times what these units cost for no tangible advantage. In fact the PZH does not do well in dusty and sandy environments, as we saw with the Dutch in Afghanistan
Tracked vehicles are different and have a higher cost maintenance and logistics system. They have better mobility over rough terrain. Tracked vehicles like this are more simpler to operate and being wheeled can transport over distances and bridges the heavier tracked vehicles may not be able to access. When used well, they can have the same effects for a smaller cost.
Now that the Philippine Army have these. God bless the NPA because their gonna need it.
Anyone notice that it can’t do direct fire & has no crew served weapons ?
Easy kill
we only seen this in pictures no deployment just for flaunting 🤣🤣
Espero que o Exercito Brasileiro adquira o sistema ATMOS pois investem em nosso país através da AEL SISTEMAS S.A.
I thought brazil have its own self propelled artillery
ATMOS🤩
Top ISRAEL. QUE O ETERNO OPERE CONVOSCO CONTRA TODOS ALGOZES QUE SE LEVANTAM CONTRA ISRAEL. AMÉN!
it is very necessary now for Ukrainian defenders.
😚🇹🇭🇮🇱👍👍👍👍👍👍
🤘🏻🇮🇱
Terrorists without military uniforms, without identification marks on the equipment, fired at the settlement and fled the scene of the crime.
Are you talking about Palestinians?.. 😂
wishing that philippines to buy more from israel 24 more wish list
Or just buy Archer - FH77BW L52
Are some of those going to Ukraine
👍
Israel makes me proud to be Jewish
as peshmerga barzani
Loading is very pathetic compare to nexter's Ceaser gun
Talking like a true expert.
copie parfaite du CEASAR
auzzef 84
Maybe.
If you design a system like this, you will come out with systems that look the same.
But, what was first?
Atmos or Ceasar?
auzzef 84 le CAESAR blindé semble plus rapide et économe en mouvements pour seulement 3 servants.
Sinon très proche du CAESAR effectivement. La portée est de combien pour ce canon israélien ?
atmos came first that mean france copy it
Bien
Why Israelis are smart people in a 60 yr old country compared to its neighbors.
patayin mga bakla
If I kill your family members, friends, etc,
Seize your lands with backings,
Then kicks you out to become refugees,
As well as do continuous killings and cutting off basic necessities in your new home @ refugee camp,
Will you praise me as being smart?
coz you don't belong to that land.
The Palestinians are not Arabs at all, but they are Canaanites. You poor pig, who has not studied history. Look only at the Israelis and their european features, and look at the Palestinians to know who is the real owner of the land.
Genetics
For an "autonomous" system it sure needs a lot of humans to operate. And also the word "howizer" doesn't start with an O. The appropriate name would be TMHS.
ATMOS sure do sound much better tham ATMHS
A drone recon on NPA's head, then few minutes later...these bad boys will release hell on their positions.
🇮🇱 Israeli military technology, 🇮🇱. I would love to work for Eblit Systems. Some of their components are manufacture in Romania.
ilkel
Yeah , already tested to communist rebel here in Philippines with the help of Hermes
🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
This is just a bad manual version of the swedish archer system.
crab.They are running around outside like chicken witout heads
The Swedish Archer is better.
But what is the most cost effective option ?
Looks like a cheap version of the French Ceasar.