I cannot thank you enough. The amount of new knowledge of electrical wiring and components I’ve learned from you is insane!!!! Keep up the great vids!! Inspiring!!!
It's rated for higher discharge rate, though not much more. You also get a twist throttle that lets you track the voltage reading and have a key that turns the bike on/off so someone can't just walk away with it easily without the keys. But the most important thing for power is just adding the 4th battery and getting the correct charger to charge all (4) at the same time.
can i do this but instead of buying an extra 12 volt battery and adding it to the stock batterys, I buy a whole 48v battery and exchange it. Would that work? i know it would be a whole lot lighter.
Yes, you can absolutely do that but lithium battery backs are usually a noticeable amount more expensive. This is the one I'm actually buying for my new set-up: amzn.to/3ILCeTA
Can you install these handlebars with the stock controller, without having to buy a different controller. Also I wanted lights, would I have to buy a different controller or can I plug them all into the stock one?
Do you mean the grips? They came with the controller and I haven't had a reason to try. The connectors look the same, but the stock one has 6 wires and the new one has 5, so I don't think so.
im doing this now but I'm a lil confused about the charging port. What do I have to do to charge it with a 48v charger? I use the original charging port?
i am going to get this kit, but i wanted to know if you are ever going to put a new motor on it? and if so what motor what it be? and would a new motor make the bike faster?
Impossible to fit 6 SLA batteries in the frame design. You’d also need to get a 72V brushed controller to make it work with the factory motor.. not worth it in my honest opinion.
@@PatOutdoors can I fit 5 batteries or is 4 the max the stock razor motor can hold? Wanted to do what you did in your over volt video where you put 4 12v batteries for 48v also wanted to know if I got 4 12v 20ah batteries and wired them all together for 48v 20ah would that work with stock motor with the amp hours on each of the batteries bc I just want them to last longer that’s why I wanted to get 4 individually 12v 20ah batteries or what you would recommend to get around 20ah
Or should I get 4 12v 5ah batteries and thoes all add up to 20amps don’t really know if the amps add up with all the batteries like the volts do when u have 4 batteries
Can you do a step by step on how you wired the new throttle to the controller including what wire goes where? I have the same aftermarket throttle but I cant figure out how to connect and get it to work. Thank you!
It’s plug and play to this controller. It actually came with the fast scooters kit. Also please be more specific because I’ve wired (6) different controllers to the same throttle on this channel so I’m not sure what controller you have
I suppose you can, but at that point you might as well get a brushless kit too and make the most out of the lithium battery's output. The battery is the most expensive part of these type of projects.
Keith again😅 Do you know of any 48v motors that I can put straight on to mx500 with no mods? Just ordered overvolt kit and just looking around for motor to replace 36v for future ref when I'm ready.
I wouldn’t suggest a brushed motor upgrade if you’re just doing the overvolt kit with sla batteries. The gains would be very minimal since the factory motor overvolted max performance is pretty matched with the battery/controller output. If you want more power than that later, I suggest saving up for a brushless kit eventually
@@PatOutdoors Overvolt kit will be here in a few days. Quick question might be a dumb one but will I have to get a charger for 48volts or will the charger I'm using now work.
@@keithturner7635 Assuming you have a stock charger, it only charges up to 36 volts. You need to get a 48 volt charger to charge all (4) batteries in a series.. Check the links in the description or look for a “fast scooters 48v charger” on eBay.
It really depends on your budget. This whole thing was less than $200 with the 4th battery and manages to go 8-10 MPH faster than stock, but adds more weight to the bike overall. But if you're looking for 30+ MPH, you need to go with a brushless motor and lithium battery set up, which is guaranteed to be over $500+. Gotta pay to play
@@PatOutdoors thank you so much pat. My budget isn’t pretty high so I’m gonnna go with the fast scooters mod and later potentially switch to a brushless motor and lithium once the motor burns out. Keep up with the razor content!!!!!
@@PatOutdoors I just bought a 48v 20ah Hailong battery with fast charger comes with key and loving platform for $219 you could get a motor for $150? Battery weighs a few pounds huge weight savings
Not if it’s wired in a series correctly with a 30 amp inline fuse. If you’re not comfortable with wiring, then I suggest just saving up for a 48v lithium battery
@@kz900r4 The easiest way to get more go (if you have the money), is to get a brushless motor kit and a higher voltage lithium battery. This bike now goes 50 MPH with my current set up if you check out my later videos.. it's 72V
LMAO I just finished part 2 today so I will be doing a top speed test shortly after. I had this in my eBay cart for a week too before buying it. Couldn't find anybody reviewing the exact kit. But voltage of 52V on the volt meter does not lie ;)
I cannot thank you enough. The amount of new knowledge of electrical wiring and components I’ve learned from you is insane!!!! Keep up the great vids!! Inspiring!!!
Glad to help
Thanks Pat. This is exactly what I needed.
Good series bro, I’m doin a 72v rsf650, your vids are a good watch.
Thanks man! Got a lot more coming. Installing a battery pack on this bike today actually, to give the Kunray 2000W kit the most potential
Do we need the 48v battery you bought or just the controller and charger
48 volts is needed. You need to add the 4th battery and wire it in a series for this to work
Great vid. Can I ask what the overvolt kit actually does as opposed to just using 48v on stock controller as some do. Pardon the ignorance.
It's rated for higher discharge rate, though not much more. You also get a twist throttle that lets you track the voltage reading and have a key that turns the bike on/off so someone can't just walk away with it easily without the keys. But the most important thing for power is just adding the 4th battery and getting the correct charger to charge all (4) at the same time.
can i do this but instead of buying an extra 12 volt battery and adding it to the stock batterys, I buy a whole 48v battery and exchange it. Would that work? i know it would be a whole lot lighter.
Yes, you can absolutely do that but lithium battery backs are usually a noticeable amount more expensive. This is the one I'm actually buying for my new set-up: amzn.to/3ILCeTA
Can you install these handlebars with the stock controller, without having to buy a different controller. Also I wanted lights, would I have to buy a different controller or can I plug them all into the stock one?
Do you mean the grips? They came with the controller and I haven't had a reason to try. The connectors look the same, but the stock one has 6 wires and the new one has 5, so I don't think so.
im doing this now but I'm a lil confused about the charging port. What do I have to do to charge it with a 48v charger? I use the original charging port?
Hey bro by chance did u have a video for headlight?
Not yet!
I just posted it!
ua-cam.com/video/bCBF_uBDDbo/v-deo.html
Thank for the video
i am going to get this kit, but i wanted to know if you are ever going to put a new motor on it? and if so what motor what it be? and would a new motor make the bike faster?
Thank you
Quick question if I wanted to add 6 batteries to make it 72v with stock razor motor would that be fine ir would I have to buy higher watt motor
Impossible to fit 6 SLA batteries in the frame design. You’d also need to get a 72V brushed controller to make it work with the factory motor.. not worth it in my honest opinion.
@@PatOutdoors can I fit 5 batteries or is 4 the max the stock razor motor can hold? Wanted to do what you did in your over volt video where you put 4 12v batteries for 48v also wanted to know if I got 4 12v 20ah batteries and wired them all together for 48v 20ah would that work with stock motor with the amp hours on each of the batteries bc I just want them to last longer that’s why I wanted to get 4 individually 12v 20ah batteries or what you would recommend to get around 20ah
Or should I get 4 12v 5ah batteries and thoes all add up to 20amps don’t really know if the amps add up with all the batteries like the volts do when u have 4 batteries
I got the controller put it is not working but I have everything plugged in
Have you contacted Fast Scooters on the phone number they have on the label? They're very responsive by text.
@@PatOutdoors ok I will try that thank you ver much
We’re did u get the throttle I’m having a hard time trying to find it
It came with the fast scooters kit being installed in the video.
Does the overvolt kit make it faster
Absolutely!
Can you do a step by step on how you wired the new throttle to the controller including what wire goes where? I have the same aftermarket throttle but I cant figure out how to connect and get it to work. Thank you!
It’s plug and play to this controller. It actually came with the fast scooters kit. Also please be more specific because I’ve wired (6) different controllers to the same throttle on this channel so I’m not sure what controller you have
Do you need the extra battery for the bike?
You need 48 volts to run a 48 volt kit
hey pat I bought the throttle in your razor upgrades but it looks different then what you have in the video?
Is it the one from this video? This one came with the fast scooters kit, not like the ones I use on my other razor projects
@@PatOutdoorsyes I’m extremely sad, it’s a small black one with like 3 wires and 2 single wires with silicone on the end
The ywnyt from your razor upgrades page
@@wolfgaming7748 what’s there to be sad about? That universal and can be wired to any controller
im trying to connect it to the place where the stock throttle went but its not going in@@PatOutdoors
Thanks for the video, it is really helpful. Is there a way i can touch base with you i have a throttle controller question. Thanks
Could I put a 48 V lithium ion battery with that kit?
I suppose you can, but at that point you might as well get a brushless kit too and make the most out of the lithium battery's output. The battery is the most expensive part of these type of projects.
@Pat outdoors Where did you get the throttle with volt meter ? I’m thinking of getting one like that.
It came with the fast scooters kit I’m going over in the video.. Linked in the description
Can you reply with the link to the Throttle? All the throttles I've seen don't have the same 6 pin connector as the mx650.
THANKKKKK YOU SO MUCCCH NEW SUB
Thanks for the sub!!
How can i connect the 5 pin throttle controller to a 6 pin stock mx500 controller? I need help..
Very Cool. I bet it is faster.
No doubt it will be faster, though will it hit close to 30 MPH is the question :)
@@PatOutdoors i bet it gets close :)
Is the range more than stock with this upgrade?
It's about the same, more battery but faster draw than before
Could I just use the speed controller kit and the throttle without the extra battery?
No, it will not turn the bike on. The controller has a cut off around 41 volts. Also there would be no gain in power without the additional voltage
@@PatOutdoors okay thanks
@patoutdoors but you turned the bike on it worked ?
What is it called for speed booster mod or a link
What is the throttle called and where did you get it
It came standard with the Fast Scooters kit that I'm installing in this video.
Keith again😅 Do you know of any 48v motors that I can put straight on to mx500 with no mods? Just ordered overvolt kit and just looking around for motor to replace 36v for future ref when I'm ready.
I wouldn’t suggest a brushed motor upgrade if you’re just doing the overvolt kit with sla batteries. The gains would be very minimal since the factory motor overvolted max performance is pretty matched with the battery/controller output. If you want more power than that later, I suggest saving up for a brushless kit eventually
@@PatOutdoors I was also looking at doin and lithium battery upgrade as well
@@PatOutdoors Overvolt kit will be here in a few days. Quick question might be a dumb one but will I have to get a charger for 48volts or will the charger I'm using now work.
@@keithturner7635 Assuming you have a stock charger, it only charges up to 36 volts. You need to get a 48 volt charger to charge all (4) batteries in a series.. Check the links in the description or look for a “fast scooters 48v charger” on eBay.
Is this kit worth buying? Or should I skip to full on motor and lithium battery upgrades.
It really depends on your budget. This whole thing was less than $200 with the 4th battery and manages to go 8-10 MPH faster than stock, but adds more weight to the bike overall. But if you're looking for 30+ MPH, you need to go with a brushless motor and lithium battery set up, which is guaranteed to be over $500+. Gotta pay to play
@@PatOutdoors thank you so much pat. My budget isn’t pretty high so I’m gonnna go with the fast scooters mod and later potentially switch to a brushless motor and lithium once the motor burns out. Keep up with the razor content!!!!!
@@PatOutdoors as long as the weight of the bike isn’t a super big deal and the positives out weigh it and it still goes faster than it’s a steal!!!
@@PatOutdoors I just bought a 48v 20ah Hailong battery with fast charger comes with key and loving platform for $219 you could get a motor for $150? Battery weighs a few pounds huge weight savings
@@PatOutdoors how long can you ride it after full charge
How long is the run time on this. And how hot does the motor get? Can this over heat and blow the motor?
8-10 miles, no it’s not enough to blow the motor.
@@PatOutdoors burned mine up
@@paulk459 did your motor overheated?
@@arcline7910 yeah the stock one then my vevor kit controller overheated
@@paulk459 what is the wattage of the stock motor for mx 650
Is this safe? Will it damage the bike in any way?
Not if it’s wired in a series correctly with a 30 amp inline fuse. If you’re not comfortable with wiring, then I suggest just saving up for a 48v lithium battery
@@PatOutdoors is that the easiest way to get more go?
@@kz900r4 The easiest way to get more go (if you have the money), is to get a brushless motor kit and a higher voltage lithium battery. This bike now goes 50 MPH with my current set up if you check out my later videos.. it's 72V
I need a top speed update been having that kit in my eBay cart for weeks having doubts if it actually works 🙏🏻
LMAO I just finished part 2 today so I will be doing a top speed test shortly after. I had this in my eBay cart for a week too before buying it. Couldn't find anybody reviewing the exact kit. But voltage of 52V on the volt meter does not lie ;)
@@PatOutdoors nice thank you for taking. One for the team and buying this kit for a legit review 🙏🏻
Imma be doing 110mph on mine lol
This video is a super long time ago. This bike runs an 72V set up and goes 52 MPH now..
do u know how fast this will go?
This set up got me 27 with a 13-tooth sprocket. But this bike goes 50 now with a completely different set up, if you check out my later videos
What’s the top speed
This is an old set up, but it was around 25 mph with a 13-tooth sprocket. This bike now goes 50 mph with a 72v set up
when is part 2 out?
In just a few minutes! lol
how much did this cost total
This whole set up at this point was less than $200 with the 4th battery and 48V charger. My set up's changed dramatically since then though.
Lol