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@@hughrs yes, I debunked this in the video.. I said it the labeling didn’t make sense because 1200 watts is less than 2 Hp

@@PatOutdoors I know you said that.... at best it's a 2hp... I with there could be something that could be done about all these Chinese companies and their faults advertising ugh

There’s not

@@Exo_carbon.24 yes, but for an extra $1500

@@vezze0 I don’t have one of those to do it with unfortunately

@@PatOutdoors okay but do you think the range is bad whit max speed?

Good idea! Anything to help the current battery life would be good..

The light can be unplugged and taken off. That's what I did since I won't be riding at night for now. The spare front number plate replaces the light or you can just leave it on. An off selection on the switch would be nice though.

@@lentomlak true, but I like riding at night often so I may just do a switch

Took about 5-6 weeks for me. Really depends how common your specs are

That’s cuz I haven’t finished this one! Have to make some changes to make a better alignment for the driiveline

It’s miles ahead of the pit bike or any of my razors for off-road capability, but not compared to my YZ250.. but keep in mind this is just how the bike comes from factory and I have well over $3K in parts modifications and 20 hours of disassembly / assembly / fabrication / wiring invested into my YZ250.. plus the cost of a Yz250. 🤷🏾‍♂️

I would compare it with similar class bikes as far as handling such as my Talaria XXX or Surron Light Bee X

Well that’s actually why I bought this 😂 To maybe stick an Electro & Co EC4P, MY1020, or a small QS motor and a Kelly controller, 72V battery, and crank it to at least 6,000 watts like my little bikes..

@@PatOutdoors Kelly controller bro NO. Fardriver or BAC. Wanna see what 8kw sustained can do. Fardriver controller has water cooling plates FYI

@@JuanJDumeP I was just thinking about what I have laying around. I’m using my FarDriver ND72530 on my Razor right now.. but I think that’s too much power for this shaft / housing / prop combo

@@PatOutdoors that is indeed powerful I have the nd72850 and it's a monster. You don't have to use 100% of the controller power you can adjust the current output via the app start at 50 amps and go up from there.

lol it’s not permanent, it’ll be fixed by next week

@PatOutdoors mines should be here by then bro

But they specifically said not to do this on their site 🤷🏾‍♂️ I just didn’t read it

@@PatOutdoors i knowwww i was actually the first one it happened to and after having to replace my bike they put in the warning on the site

Yeah, Pat's videos are the best. All the other guys do is ride out in the street and pop wheelies.

Yeah they just have to reinstall the software for the mantis x back to the controller. Too bad I’m across the country on the east coast 🙄

Wait what! I what controller are you using? The original 25A 48v controller?

@@PatOutdoors yes stock controller runs 67v no issue's I want to tey 84 next

@@bransonlariscy4660 it’s the 70H v3. I’m using a Votol 25kw controller from Electro & Co.. That’s gonna be beast power on an 85!

@@PatOutdoors I hope so, the motor was and controller was just delivered today. After I ordered it I learned of the qs180 with gear reduction, I kinda wish I would have went it now. But we'll see how it goes. I can always upgrade later and use the 138 for something else. BTW how long did it take for your battery to arrive after ordering? I just ordered mine yesterday. they said 20-30 days. Im really hoping it doesn't take that long lol.

I know.. it was my fault 🤦🏾‍♂️ But good way to test and find out how good their customer service is!

Shhh 🤫 Too many things going on right now. I still gotta announce a 10K giveaway a week or so late lol

With the stock 30AH battery on the X?! I can see how that’s possible on the larger Mantis

@@PatOutdoors there are people in the mantis fb group who say they already have the tune. When i spoke to rawrr on the phone they mentioned the tune also but quickly mentioned the top speed will still be 50mph. The top speed limit is definitely software based.

@@MrJroc04si Ah that's what I suspected. This is actually why I'm still looking at aftermarket controller options so we can touch at least 60 MPH eventually..

@@lentomlak well I saw your comment so I pulled the battery out to figure out for myself, but it appears I only had one 😂. I may have lost the other when this bike was getting shook at the rough trails I went through last weekend. Is it just the foam block? I’ll ask RAWRR to see if they can send me a pic of how it’s supposed to be oriented

@@PatOutdoorsthe rubber pad is for under the seat. it sits in the square under there. it rides over top of the battery handle. Mine was loose as well i super glued it on and now it’s fine.

@@caviproductions Thanks for the input! Do you happen to know where the second one goes that @lentomlak is asking about?

@@PatOutdoors my bike only had 1 as well. He may have just had an extra one in there. The adhesive on that part was pretty weak - it was hanging off every time i pulled the seat off. Super glue worked perfectly tho.

@@caviproductions Thanks for the info. I found 2 and at least one of them was in the very bottom of the battery box. One other thing I noticed is the bottom corner of the battery must have been rubbing against one of the orange wires at the bottom and rubbed part of it away. I reinforced it with some duct tape. So watch out for that you guys.

😂 you do for me

They actually have a disclaimer that states the app is not compatible with the mantis x and mini just yet

@@PatOutdoors yes i seen that just hope it eventually is compatible so i didn’t waist the money and i would like that app feature .

@@zaza_grows_only6689 me too!

@@zaza_grows_only6689 i got this issue and according to them its coming with app support by the end of agust

Hmm I thought about it but size wise seems like the ND72300 is the largest I can fit there, which wouldn’t be a huge enough of an upgrade

Yup it is

Same dimensions as surron?

@@omarreynold6782idk

@@omarreynold6782 not sure

What do you mean by “same treatment” exactly? I have both bikes and this handles off road much better than my Talaria XXX, but the xxx has more aftermarket support (hence why I already have an upgraded battery and controller on that bike.) I also had a Surron light bee X recently and just like how this bike performs better in stock form. This bike has its shortcomings such as the battery life everyone seems to be mentioning, but it’s only $3000 and goes 50 mph in stock form.. The talarias have better range, but is that the most important thing for you?

@@PatOutdoors By same treatment I meant the Surron and talaria have had much more abuse since the have been out longer and we know they can take a beating, but since the rawr has been out for a couple of months it hasn’t had the same abuse that the Ron and talaria have. Even though it’s faster stock there could be a lot of problems that we don’t know yet and the price might be cheap for a reason yk.

@@Short_Clipzv1 Very true, which is why it’s important for all of us who own it to share as much info as we can as problems come up

​@@Short_Clipzv1 the talaria sting has a gearbox far superior to the other bikes that all use jackshafts

@@Nobodyatall007 it didn’t fry the controller. It inputted the parameters for the larger Mantis. Per Cley at RAWRR, just needs to be reprogrammed. It’s already on the way there and should be shipped back to me next week

@@PatOutdoors They were warning it could fry the controller

Yeah I’m not too happy about what I did, but now I know 😞

@PatOutdoors Trial and error brother its how we learn

I don’t remember saying anything about helping the environment.. I just liked that it was quiet

@@paullangford8179 I answered this in the video. It’s not even 2 HP, but it scoots ok

Prop horsepower is defined by torque times RPM. The formula for HP is simply (Torque x RPM)/5252. If you have an engine that's rated for 5 horsepower but its torque drops off dramatically as the RPM increases it delivers less than 5 horsepower. Is there anything in the paperwork that would tell you the electric motor's torque and RPM?

Does it say what wattage the motor is rated for? It's good thing if you were sent the higher watt motor for the lower price.. gives you room to upgrade in the future. The controller is key - a 72V controller WILL NOT run on anything other than a 72V battery. Why don't you just return your kit to whoever you bought it from?

@@PatOutdoors motor rated at 3000W… and the controller says NOMINAL VOLTAGE RATED 3000w 48V-72V under voltage 42V I’d have to look into returning policy I think I have like 30 days to return …any 72 volt battery I recommend budge friendly since I already bought a brand new 48V battery 🔋 🤦🏻‍♂️ 😆….and thank you for the fast reply 🙏🏼