First Time Killing A Queen

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  • @vinofarm
    @vinofarm  6 років тому +2387

    🐝WHY KILL THE QUEEN? WHY NOT JUST LET HER GO? This is why...
    The queen has only one job in the hive: She is there to lay eggs. That's it. This queen had a suitable hive and colony for 5 weeks and did not lay a single egg as far as I could see. If the queen does not lay eggs, the colony will not have new brood to replenish the dying workers and eventually (within months) the whole colony will be dead. So... the queen needs to be replaced with a NEW mated queen.
    BUT, you can't just put a new queen in the box because 1 of 3 things will happen...
    1. The workers will see the new queen as an intruder and murder her.
    2. The old queen and new queen will fight each other to the death.
    3. The new queen will see a colony that already has a queen and nope right out of there and fly off.
    The way to have the best chance of successfully introducing a NEW queen is to first make sure the hive is queenless, let the colony realize they are queenless (after at least 4-6 hours) and then slowly introduce the NEW queen. The queenless colony should then accept her with open arms.
    So, why kill the old queen? You can't just let her go. Bees are very attached to their hives. You could take her across the field and let her go and she'll fly right back into the hive. (Then she'll try to kill the new queen.) So why not just drive her 5 miles away and let her go into the woods? Because a queen without a hive is a dead queen. She won't know what to do with herself. When a queen is in the hive, she's literally cleaned and fed by attendants. If she was lost in the woods, she'd be eaten by a bird or have slow lonely death. But what if she flew and found another hive?!? Well, then that hive would be right back where this hive was... It would be a hive with a non-laying queen and it would be dead in months.
    So she was a useless bee and the only option was to squash her. It's for the good of the hive and it's a quick painless death. RIP queen.

    • @bluuman1
      @bluuman1 6 років тому +161

      Wow that is sad! Beekeeping is definitely not for me, because there is no way I would be able to make a decision like that. RIP old queen.
      also: why isn't she laying any eggs?

    • @kadygriffith7929
      @kadygriffith7929 6 років тому +10

      Vino Farm u are not right

    • @vinofarm
      @vinofarm  6 років тому +292

      She was killed to save the 20,000 other bees. The hive is still alive and thriving. I don't know the exact reason for her inability to lay eggs, but there was nothing I could have done about it. The goal is to save the hive. Every worker bee in the hive would give their life to save the hive.

    • @lazariswan1572
      @lazariswan1572 6 років тому +53

      Well the queen lays the eggs...So the queens job is very important so she can make more bees to pollinate flowers =D

    • @Drangel-dg1xn
      @Drangel-dg1xn 6 років тому +58

      Life happens you know. Things live and die

  • @kizzy3563
    @kizzy3563 7 років тому +2515

    "I'm going to take her out... and then I'm going to take her out." lol

    • @TwoFreeTakos
      @TwoFreeTakos 7 років тому +38

      Kiz zie just saw your comment as he said that lol

    • @olehofmann5953
      @olehofmann5953 6 років тому +25

      he means he will take her out of the hive and then take her out (kill her)

    • @aleeshaaleeshaaleesha
      @aleeshaaleeshaaleesha 6 років тому +52

      Ole Hofmann yes, which is why it's funny

    • @SkairimIzWin
      @SkairimIzWin 6 років тому +62

      Ole Hofmann When people have to explain the joke, thereby ruining it. 🤦‍♂️

    • @xv-itachi-vx7846
      @xv-itachi-vx7846 6 років тому +1

      kizzy i liked that part too

  • @numbertwelve8627
    @numbertwelve8627 7 років тому +1223

    I've been told by some people to keep the old (dead) queen and put her to the cage with the new queen, so the bees think the new queen has defeated the old one, which will make them more accepting. Bee justice.

    • @cieloww
      @cieloww 7 років тому +32

      numbertwelve LOL

    • @laxcatthesleepycat2688
      @laxcatthesleepycat2688 7 років тому +44

      really? i thought that that happened only with ants

    • @dakingataleedo
      @dakingataleedo 7 років тому +454

      until they realize the deception and a civil war errupts

    • @koghs
      @koghs 7 років тому +93

      Queen is dead. Long live the Queen!

    • @katrinacatrell6319
      @katrinacatrell6319 7 років тому +7

      Andrés Der Sleepy It might be a similar Hive mentality in general

  • @alexcrocker7111
    @alexcrocker7111 7 років тому +960

    Talk about a buzz kill

  • @mftripz8445
    @mftripz8445 7 років тому +282

    Take the queen hostage and hold a ransom demanding that all honey goes to you. ocasionally give them photos of the queen bee to make sure she is ok and that the ransom is still in effect

  • @basedokadaizo
    @basedokadaizo 7 років тому +572

    me, watching this video at 6:45AM: i don't even know a damn thing about bees but this fella can teach me

  • @RicksRoads
    @RicksRoads 7 років тому +1613

    Good to see Littlefinger find a hobby that suits him.

  • @pablomoreno1206
    @pablomoreno1206 7 років тому +674

    "I'm gonna take her out, and them i'm gonna take her out." holy shit i laughed

  • @GeneticAlgorithm
    @GeneticAlgorithm 7 років тому +1143

    So, you french revolution the hive and call up for a more productive parliamentary monarchy.

    • @henzyperez5487
      @henzyperez5487 6 років тому +19

      GeneticAlgorithm11111001000 omg this made my day

    • @wt04s12
      @wt04s12 6 років тому +6

      bruhh

    • @GungaGingster1215
      @GungaGingster1215 6 років тому +13

      r/historymemes

    • @TALKINGtac0
      @TALKINGtac0 6 років тому +47

      Its a russian hive. It was the Russian revolution, and it was for the good of the working class.

    • @ph9ntm
      @ph9ntm 6 років тому +3

      NERD ALERT!!

  • @MidnightToker24
    @MidnightToker24 7 років тому +53

    I'm allergic to bee stings, never been into bee hives in any way but this video is pretty fucking cool. It's very packed with knowledge and love seeing the whole process go down. Trial and error and then seeing results is what I love seeing. Keep up the uploads if you can.

  • @OldHatIdeas
    @OldHatIdeas 7 років тому +723

    You did the right thing! I hope they take to the new queen well. The queen is dead, long live the queen!

    • @growingthingswithmark7470
      @growingthingswithmark7470 7 років тому +11

      Long live the queen!

    • @kyousey
      @kyousey 7 років тому +2

      We have to talk about your loyalty. Please come with us peacefully, sir!

    • @Shobs1
      @Shobs1 7 років тому

      WHERE IS DE QWEEN

    • @LemonRats
      @LemonRats 7 років тому

      Harper Wall
      Did you read The Bees too ?
      Because that was a line from laline paul's The Bees

    • @Cara-jo6yu
      @Cara-jo6yu 6 років тому

      GTA STUNTS AND VIDEOS she did not kno de wae

  • @Alexf14
    @Alexf14 6 років тому +95

    WHY AM I STUCK WATCHING BEE VIDEOS FOR 1 HOUR

    • @KGNYC112
      @KGNYC112 5 років тому +3

      Alex Rasidakis
      Make it two!

    • @theneo2008
      @theneo2008 5 років тому

      Cuz u have no life.

    • @Noellecoleman86
      @Noellecoleman86 4 роки тому

      I've been watching bee videos for 3 days!

    • @WhalesWilly
      @WhalesWilly 4 роки тому

      Dude wait til you find Hornet King and his chickens.

  • @PaulOtis
    @PaulOtis 7 років тому +1791

    You sacrificed a queen to save thousands of bees. Sounds like a good plan to me. Nice job! Jim, did you have any luck at all with your swarm trap at all?

    • @phyreacid
      @phyreacid 7 років тому +8

      ^^^ What they said!

    • @vinofarm
      @vinofarm  7 років тому +42

      Nothing in the swarm trap! Still waiting.

    • @zeke135
      @zeke135 7 років тому +2

      She was laying, just a bad pattern, there was capped brood at 5 weeks on those frames

    • @danielblair4413
      @danielblair4413 7 років тому +6

      You could've just released the queen miles away from the hive and let nature take its course.
      REPLY

    • @HoangPham-cn1hy
      @HoangPham-cn1hy 7 років тому

      Paul Otis ii

  • @wolfieyt
    @wolfieyt 7 років тому +91

    The Queen is dead. Long live the Queen.

  • @alf3488
    @alf3488 6 років тому +73

    10:09 “the queen is dead” sound like a good movie or novel.

    • @curdledstraw227
      @curdledstraw227 6 років тому +1

      Isnt that a music album

    • @QnJhbQ
      @QnJhbQ 5 років тому

      That's actually an album from The Smiths lol

  • @exotic_logic
    @exotic_logic 5 років тому +41

    LMAO THE WAY HE AWKWARDLY SCRAPED HER TO DEATH WITH THE TOOL OFF CAMERA AND PROCEEDED TO BURY HER 😂😂 then he was like um so that was not how I wanted the burial to go

    • @apveening
      @apveening 2 роки тому

      To top it off, he put her in an unmarked grave ;)

  • @icantbelieveitsnotbutter8851
    @icantbelieveitsnotbutter8851 6 років тому +91

    I saw the killer in his eyes when he said i'm going to take her out.

    • @ishi__kun9516
      @ishi__kun9516 6 років тому +1

      Isn’t that normal if you’re about to kill someone who is useless for you’re business

    • @matilda6851
      @matilda6851 6 років тому +2

      My whole family is laughing over this comment

    • @DontarrestmePLZ
      @DontarrestmePLZ 5 років тому +1

      Calm down, Professor Chaos.

    • @theneo2008
      @theneo2008 5 років тому +1

      He is a serial killer

    • @arthurmorgan9116
      @arthurmorgan9116 4 роки тому

      The queen wasnt laying eggs he had to

  • @canisfamiliaris4
    @canisfamiliaris4 7 років тому +237

    "I'm gonna take her out... and then I'm gonna take her out." lol, I see what you did there.

    • @SimonPinchbeck
      @SimonPinchbeck 6 років тому +7

      canisfamiliaris4 imagine stealing comments

    • @property3959
      @property3959 5 років тому

      Simon It’s quoted, and i haven’t seen anyone say what he just said.

  • @chrono5108
    @chrono5108 7 років тому +241

    I'm suddenly really interested in beekeeping!

    • @Sachin1197
      @Sachin1197 7 років тому +5

      Evan Brisson me too but then some experience from retrospect came in mind and plan failed

  • @aznericxD
    @aznericxD 6 років тому +33

    I can’t believe I watched 20 minutes of this and subscribed

  • @shelvacu
    @shelvacu 5 років тому +32

    8:40 "I've never picked up a queen, I'mna try to pick 'er up"
    Me: Oh hey, I wonder what kinda tool he's gonna use to pickup the queen, I saw the other guy had like a hairclip-cage thingy but will that work on a hive...
    *hand appears in picture*
    Me: OMG WHAT ARE YOU DOING

    • @ladyburnside1201
      @ladyburnside1201 5 років тому

      shelvacu yes!! I reacted the same way! 😳😳😳😳😳

    • @nightmarekhazix4419
      @nightmarekhazix4419 4 роки тому +1

      the queen doesn't sting. Completely harmless

    • @shelvacu
      @shelvacu 4 роки тому +1

      @@nightmarekhazix4419 the whole video is uncomfortable for me (in an enthralling way), I'm used to treating bees as unpredictable stinging machines to be avoided at all costs, so seeing someone put their bare hand near a bunch of bees is surprising to say the least. Even if I knew the queen didn't sting (I didn't! guess that makes sense tho), I'd be worried about all the other bees trying to protect her.

    • @nightmarekhazix4419
      @nightmarekhazix4419 4 роки тому +1

      @@shelvacu They do consider protecting them but as a beekepeper myself the european honeybees (In Greece) are quite friendly. Anything that can result in a sting? Usually fast movements from your part. or if you hit a bee or try and run,and annoy the hive a lot. Then they will feel threatened . But otherwise they don't attack for no reason. The stinging machines you're refering to are supposed to be wasps/hornets since they are predators and their entire purpose is to be agressive at all times.
      Overall the male bee(Called Drone) also doesn't sting. the rest of the bees in the hive are female and are considered *workers* and they sting only if they feel like you're a threat. Using smoke will calm them down and even not Literally but *make them high* which increases the amount of time it takes for them to get agressive

    • @nightmarekhazix4419
      @nightmarekhazix4419 4 роки тому +1

      *thus letting you keep the hive open for a longer period of time*. Also don't annoy hives if it's windy or it's about the rain. Ofcourse it sounds common sense but some people still do that . lol

  • @SirCamsmorethanalot
    @SirCamsmorethanalot 5 років тому +2

    When you moved the brood over from the larger colony to the weak one, I'd suggest making it all capped brood with no young larvae. The queenless for several hours colony you moved the all stages brood comb into may start making emergency queen cells over the young larvae, then you put your caged queen in which adds another couple hours until candy plug is chewed through. If they do start cells, will make them less accepting of your mated queen. All capped brood gives them a secure feeling but also makes them more inclined to accept your mated queen (since no larvae young enough for emergency queens).

  • @MutepusMinecraft
    @MutepusMinecraft 7 років тому +97

    Hey! In future when killing queens, it is often quite useful to save them and keep them in rubbing alcohol or similar. This will eventually pick up her pheromones and you can then use it as a swarm lure, obviously adding more queens as they die!
    Another great video!
    Thanks!

    • @vinofarm
      @vinofarm  7 років тому +24

      Mutepu Games Yup. I know this. That was the plan, but she got away from me and I didn't want to risk grabbing her again and her flying away. So I just crushed her quickly as possible. It was stressful.

    • @MutepusMinecraft
      @MutepusMinecraft 7 років тому +8

      Ah! Fair enough, better to make sure she's dead than to have her get back in and kill the new one! At least you can rest assured that the hive will be better off with the new queen!

    • @danameable
      @danameable 7 років тому

      This is false

    • @Elsureel
      @Elsureel 7 років тому +2

      Why? please explain

    • @danameable
      @danameable 7 років тому +1

      Its thinking like a hunter think like a swarm they have a queen why would they look for other queen?

  • @chachadodds5860
    @chachadodds5860 6 років тому +4

    I love your sense of affection & reverence for these bees. I've always loved bees, & never understood the aversion people have for them. Bees are the very foundation for our food supply, and a benefactor of humankind.
    I mean, sure, they will sting you if provoked, but so will a dog with their bite, or a cat, or basically any living creature.
    I get that some people are allergic to the sting, so in those cases, it makes sense. But, I don't think most people take the time to learn about, and appreciate bees. They just see them as a nuisance.
    I'm living in the city right now, renting a room, but when I had a home in the country, and a garden, I would daily stand among the lavender patch I planted, as thousands of bees busily gathered nectar. It was not only a daily routine, since my herb garden was adjacent, but it was a time of meditation. I always felt a sense of calm, and relief of stress amongst the beauty of their activity. It was my happy place. My family thought I was nuts, but I never got stung.
    I realize, in watching just a few of your videos on beekeeping, that it's vastly different than simply walking into a field of lavender. It's a lot work & dedication, but I shared my experience to lay a foundation for my comment.
    Thank you for your love & dedication to these amazing creatures, and their promotion.

  • @gapey
    @gapey 7 років тому +140

    Good job! I haven't had to pinch/kill a queen yet but I'm sure it is a matter of time. Both of my hives are doing really well. I have already done one harvest from the flow hive and will probably do another one this weekend. We are in the middle of our biggest honey flow of the year so they are bringing it in fast.

    • @Sunflower-Vendor
      @Sunflower-Vendor 6 років тому +2

      Gapeys Grub I find things like this so fascinating!

    • @bartacomuskidd775
      @bartacomuskidd775 6 років тому +2

      Gapey.. how are yours going a year later? Im wanting to start.. ive watched so many videos im confused so bad

    • @TheBelrick
      @TheBelrick 6 років тому +3

      I had to kill a drone layer. She had given me 2 years of productivity... :(

  • @kahealanis4398
    @kahealanis4398 7 років тому

    you deserve a lot more subscribers than you have, you’re so enthusiastic and lively, it’s refreshing

  • @Nadesican
    @Nadesican 7 років тому +82

    Pulling the queen by hand seems like something of a clunky process. It might be easier to do in the future with a set of tweezers.

    • @vinofarm
      @vinofarm  7 років тому +70

      Nadesican It's something I'd like to learn to do. I figured it was worth it to give it a shot on a queen that was about to die. The feeling was not what I expected. It was like a buzzer or a shock. I got startled and dropped her and she jumped off the frame. Also, grabbing a bee barehanded goes against all human instincts. I need to get over the apprehension.

    • @MrBaltdave
      @MrBaltdave 7 років тому +2

      I've seen "queen catchers" on some beekeeping supply websites..kind of looks like a metal turtle clip that women use in their hair....might be worth looking into...great video !!

    • @DreamofaHive
      @DreamofaHive 7 років тому +8

      best to grab them by the wings :) not as much "buzz" ...you can practice picking up drones that way - at least you know you will not get stung while you practice and get used to the sensation :) Good job ...deed done!

    • @angelagjylhasani9431
      @angelagjylhasani9431 6 років тому

      I have not dared to touch whatever bee with my bare hands. Even get uncomfortable if they walk over my hands while handling a frame. At the very first time I did it, I nearly dropped the frame to run away, but I managed to control myself and stay calm... I really do use those queen catchers, which also come in handy for removing insects and spiders from the house... ;)

  • @bwana4711
    @bwana4711 4 роки тому +1

    Just revisiting as I think this is the first video I watched of Vino farm. I then binge watched all the rest, and became a beekeeper the next year because of this channel. That was last year, now in my second year and have 9 colonies.

  • @anipancake9490
    @anipancake9490 4 роки тому +9

    Vino Farm: "I'm sorry queen!"
    One Republic: "It's too late to apologize."

  • @annalee9752
    @annalee9752 6 років тому +119

    idk why im watching im scared of bees but it s just interesting for me

  • @iamtheCircus
    @iamtheCircus 7 років тому +29

    At least she got a proper burial

  • @kbfilms8287
    @kbfilms8287 6 років тому

    I dont know why i keep on watching videos like this, I find it satisfying and interesting.

  • @blakehall6591
    @blakehall6591 5 років тому +10

    The hardest decisions require the strongest wills...

  • @MarkCarter1111
    @MarkCarter1111 4 роки тому +1

    Just wondering where did you get your vented jacket, I really like the hat and veil, thanks

  • @EveGrey
    @EveGrey 6 років тому +4

    "There's nothing graphic in this video,..." Thanks for that, i was a little afraid.
    Thanks for all the explanation, you have very interesting Videos - Keep it up!

  • @FLBill
    @FLBill 7 років тому

    I've was following you from the start but kind of lost track around spring when you lost a lot of stock...if I remember correctly. I see you have gotten comfortable enough to ditch the gloves! Cool. In the spring I had swarm issues and ended up with over 20 capped queens. I thought I was doing good staying on it. Long story short, I had to scrape over a dozen queen cells out and they all were ready to hatch. So I had a jar with a lot of queens that were all alive. As I was scraping them, they were hatching! It was so hard killing them! I know how you felt. But now my hives are all doing very well. I now have 3 that were all splits from original. I'm going to try and get caught up with you, but work has been crazy and so has life. BTW I've been keeping for just under a year. Thanks for the effort you have put in to your videos. FL BIll

  • @larrytornetta9764
    @larrytornetta9764 7 років тому +16

    I would stop feeding the strong hive and put a box of drawn comb on top then a queen excluder then your flow hive. This will give the bees time to make a super or 2 of honey for them and with luck fill your flow frames. I like the bees to have 3 brood boxes so there is no worry about having enough stores for the winter. I'm in PA and I've seen all types of winters and how they affect bees.

    • @vinofarm
      @vinofarm  7 років тому +4

      larry tornetta I'm all out of drawn comb. I have lots of frames. I'm trying to get the bees to draw some frames for me so that's why I'm feeding. I thought about a third brood box, but I'm not sure Russians would go for that. I've been reading that they are more conservative with their resources and expansion. If they have two solid brood boxes before July, I'm thinking they're going to be OK for the fall. I'm still experimenting. This is my first time with Russians and just the start of my second season. I'm curious to see what the requeened hive will do with an actual laying queen. If they explode like the other hive, maybe I can try a third brood box over there. I don't know anyone with three brood boxes in this area. Two is most common. Thanks for watching.

    • @j_aviationOfficial
      @j_aviationOfficial 7 років тому

      larry tornetta yaIm new bee keeper I do it in uk at my home and I do it at turkey on holiday :)

    • @j_aviationOfficial
      @j_aviationOfficial 7 років тому

      Vino Farm can you try A Turkish bee hive there bees are massive

    • @ousamadearudesuwa
      @ousamadearudesuwa 7 років тому +1

      larry tornetta flow hives are not that easy to do.

  • @kprz2024
    @kprz2024 7 років тому

    i stumbled onto this video randomly. I've never had any interest in bee keeping but this video was very entertaining and actually really interesting. the whole queen killing was funny. i hope your business is going strong!

  • @msmccormick5744
    @msmccormick5744 5 років тому +15

    I love how he unceremoniously buries her 😂😂🤣

  • @luckylunaloops
    @luckylunaloops 5 років тому +1

    Because she didn't feel safe. Ms. Bee, I hope to sit with you in the next life. You deserved better.

  • @MrJpm1989
    @MrJpm1989 7 років тому +33

    Good stuff ,Killer Queen . Amazing song and from now on this shall be you. He he . Bee joke

    • @LanovedadAlmomento
      @LanovedadAlmomento 7 років тому +9

      bite za dusto

    • @Mehhhhhhhh
      @Mehhhhhhhh 6 років тому +3

      She had a sheer heart attack!! And yes, She bit the dust but don't stop them now!

  • @danni3951
    @danni3951 6 років тому +1

    Why are all these bee videos suddenly appearing in everyone's recommended after a year like???

  • @secretking6460
    @secretking6460 7 років тому +9

    I wish every queen ant, bee (you like jazz) wore a little crown how awesome would that be

  • @Gafusaf
    @Gafusaf 4 роки тому

    Thank you for covering this subject. It is obvious that you care about your business and the well-being of your bees.

  • @jerry6778
    @jerry6778 7 років тому +35

    I smoked about an hour ago and now I'm here... pls help

  • @lupinedreamexpress
    @lupinedreamexpress 7 років тому

    You did the right thing. Sad to see the old queen go, but this saved a lot of bee lives. A thriving hive is a happy one.

  • @mistein837
    @mistein837 7 років тому +29

    That man made coup d'etat

  • @axinsanex97
    @axinsanex97 6 років тому

    I like how much remorse you show for the old queen Honestly it shows alot about you I will be subscribing for sure Hope to see more Bee videos!

    • @axinsanex97
      @axinsanex97 6 років тому

      I hit the bell I want notifications!!!

    • @vinofarm
      @vinofarm  6 років тому +1

      There's 100 other bee videos already up here. Thanks for watching.

    • @axinsanex97
      @axinsanex97 6 років тому

      Lol I didnt even notice this was a old video I have some liking to do!!!

  • @chellyw63
    @chellyw63 6 років тому

    I must be honest I know virtually nothing about bee keeping, but for some reason, I was totally engrossed in watching this vlog and learning about the Queen and the reason that the kindest thing to do was to kill her. I would love to learn so much more about keeping bees, as I think they are simply amazing, so thank you for this great vlog

  • @fezgaming2711
    @fezgaming2711 6 років тому +591

    Why kill the queen

    • @vinofarm
      @vinofarm  6 років тому +895

      This has been answered several times below, but I'll try once more and pin this!
      The queen has only one job in the hive: She is there to lay eggs. That's it. This queen had a suitable hive and colony for 5 weeks and did not lay a single egg as far as I could see. If the queen does not lay eggs, the colony will not have new brood to replenish the dying workers and eventually (within months) the whole colony will be dead. So... the queen needs to be replaced with a NEW mated queen.
      BUT, you can't just put a new queen in the box because 1 of 3 things will happen... 1. The workers will see the new queen as an intruder and murder her. 2. The old queen and new queen will fight each other to the death. 3. The new queen will see a colony that already has a queen and nope right out of there and fly off.
      The way to have the best chance of successfully introducing a NEW queen is to first make sure the hive is queenless, let the colony realize they are queenless (after at least 4-6 hours) and then slowly introduce the NEW queen. The queenless colony should then accept her with open arms.
      So, why kill the old queen? You can't just let her go. Bees are very attached to their hives. You could take her across the field and let her go and she'll fly right back into the hive. (Then she'll try to kill the new queen.) So why not just drive her 5 miles away and let her go into the woods? Because a queen without a hive is a dead queen. She won't know what to do with herself. When a queen is in the hive, she's literally cleaned and fed by attendants. If she was lost in the woods, she'd be eaten by a bird or have slow lonely death. But what if she flew and found another hive?!? Well, then that hive would be right back where this hive was... It would be a hive with a non-laying queen and it would be dead in months.
      So she was a useless bee and the only option was to squash her. It's for the good of the hive and it's a quick painless death. RIP queen.

    • @CrystalWingDesigns
      @CrystalWingDesigns 6 років тому +263

      May I also add. If she was released and found another hive, or found in the wild by other bee's, the workers (if they saw her as an intruder) would then try and kill her by balling. This is where the bee's will all group up and form a ball with her in the middle, trapping her and then vibrate to make heat. This cooks her alive, a slow and painful death that may also kill other workers near the center of the ball from the queen fighting back or from heat as well.
      This happens in the wild all the time and even when hives like shown here reject a new queen. That's why with Beekeeping queens are kept in small cages, to keep her safe in case the hive rejects her. If they do reject her she'll be safe in the cage, she can then be removed and placed back later for another attempt, and if that still fails she can be used in another hive or to start a fresh new one.
      In my eyes, however, a fast quick death of being squished is more humane than what nature does, balling, or just dying a slow death alone, and it doesn't put other hives at risk of an infertile queen getting into a healthy hive and dooming it if she does manage to kill the hives existing queen.

    • @linuxlover6505
      @linuxlover6505 6 років тому +3

      If leave the queen alive it will go back to the hive and a war will probably happen.

    • @CrystalWingDesigns
      @CrystalWingDesigns 6 років тому +28

      She would starve and die. The workers tend to her every need, cleaning her, feeding her. She's one pampered bee and with none of that she just dies.

    • @boooster101
      @boooster101 6 років тому +20

      Even if the Queen wouldn't die in isolation, they are absolute hive insects. Isolation would put her in the most stressful and devastating situation.
      What would you prefer? Living all your life in an isolation cell 24/7 or dying quickly? And now add the hive mentality to that and you know why keeping a single bee as a pet is nothing but torture to it.

  • @cuculis1
    @cuculis1 7 років тому

    Bee keeping seems peaceful work. I like it. Peaceful and terrifying at the same time. Love the videos man thanks for making them!

    • @vinofarm
      @vinofarm  7 років тому

      +cory cuculis The scary part is the feeling of responsibility toward the hive... the constant fear that I'm going to do something stupid and destroy the colony. The bees aren't scary. They have jobs to do and will only mess with you if you mess with them. Be gentle and they ignore you.

  • @Night-Mayor
    @Night-Mayor 5 років тому +3

    This is fascinating. 🙂 How do you keep from getting stung in the hands?

    • @vinofarm
      @vinofarm  5 років тому +3

      I do get stung... Once in a while. As long as you're calm and move slowly and carefully, the bees don't bother you. They will attack if you are clumsy and start squishing or crushing bees, though.

  • @sarahbrockk
    @sarahbrockk 5 років тому

    I have stumbled upon the most wholesome corner of UA-cam! I love watching bee keeping!

  • @mosti72
    @mosti72 5 років тому +3

    I don't know but I feel like the part at 10:19 is very cool/badass.

  • @DaveGeelen88
    @DaveGeelen88 7 років тому

    These bee videos are amazing!
    Now i have so many questions that never entered my mind before....
    Like, why should there be a queen ?
    Can"t there be a queenless hive?
    Queen lay eggs ? and baby-bees come out ? Is that the task of the queen ?
    Also what are you giving them? Sirup? What are they doing with it?
    What is that smokey bottle ?
    What are the bees making on those "nets" and how do you take it off ?
    One day I might want to start a beehive of my own and make it the biggest one of the city!

  • @sybilsinclair5614
    @sybilsinclair5614 7 років тому +4

    Hey neighbor. Ashburnham here again. We had to requeen last night. It was a split second decision, and you wouldn't believe the story if I told it to you. Now comes the waiting to see if they accept her. I swear I haven't slept since May. Nothing easy about it, but you did the right thing.

    • @vinofarm
      @vinofarm  7 років тому +5

      Sybil Sinclair I just opened mine up after a week. She's out and alive. But now there's a capped queen cell in the hive. Oh boy.

    • @ponyvet77
      @ponyvet77 7 років тому

      You can always put a queen cage/protector over it to preserve it.

    • @sybilsinclair5614
      @sybilsinclair5614 7 років тому +1

      Wow! We have similar luck. Is the queen cell on the brood frame you added?
      We got 2 nucs, 1st of May. Joy and Jasmine. Joy drew out her frames in a little over a week (faster than we were expecting). We added a 2nd brood box. Two weeks later, they had drawn out 2 frames up top, with some supersedure cells in the centers, including a fully capped one. Joy had a beautiful brood pattern. She swarmed 4 days after we found the cells, June 8th. 100' up into a pine tree. She left 5 frames of brood, a frame of capped honey, and 6 queen cells at various stages. Since we found a capped queen on the 3rd, we were assuming she'd hatch somewhere around the 11th. 5 days for shell to harden. Mating flights somewhere around the 16th (it rained for a few days). On the 21st, we found a queen, dead, outside of our weak hive-Jasmine. Huge, beautiful queen.
      Jasmine had the spotty brood pattern. Never saw any eggs. And over the next few weeks, DWV, chewed through brood, workers pulling out larvae and pupae daily, bees crawling on the ground in front of the hive. We are treating for all of it, but the brood pattern remained spotty. Requested a State inspection.
      We find the dead queen. Inspect Jasmine, and see her almost immediately. Inspect Joy: no eggs, no larvae, can't see a queen. Videoed every frame and watched it in slo-mo for hours - did not see a queen. Ordered a new one. Installed her last Saturday. She's in a plastic cage w/o attendants, and had marshmallows capping her in. She was still in there on Thursday - not a good sign.
      KW from the State came on Friday. Says Joy must be queenright. Sure enough, open up the hive and there's one frame, 1/3 full of freshly laid eggs. He says she must have started laying in the past day or two. The queen we bought was still in her cage.
      Open up Jasmine, he says "heavy mite damage and you have a queen who isn't laying." My husband pulled out Jasmine, smushed her, we duct-taped the end of new queens cage (per the inspector's instructions and installed her immediately). Yesterday, we removed the duct tape, added fondant, and put her back in there, bu they were balling her. I sprayed the bees and frames w/sugar water, and a mix of lemongrass/spearmint. And now, we wait..... My husband picked up some hardware cloth this morning, and we may try the cage thing.

    • @vinofarm
      @vinofarm  7 років тому

      Sybil Sinclair Holy crap. Sounds like you're getting an education. That is one hell of a story. Are you making videos of this???

    • @sybilsinclair5614
      @sybilsinclair5614 7 років тому +1

      I took a class at Monty Tech prior to starting this, but this has been our Crash Course! Recording everything, but on our IPhones. I plan to edit it someday. The swarm was amazing. Our hives are 200' from our house, and I could hear them from inside! Not what we wanted to happen, but incredible none-the-less. Caught the virgin piping. She may or may not still be alive....
      Love your videos, though. They make this all less surreal. We're sorry you have to solve this one, but am looking forward to seeing the results! We're rooting for you all!

  • @mashiroikaze
    @mashiroikaze 6 років тому

    I kept looking at the thumbnail and title for this video in the recommended videos list and going, "Why kill a queen?" Thank you for the explanation as to the reasoning behind the decision (infertile queen...or just crazy queen). The burial of the old queen was a nice touch (possibly necessary to avoid the bees panicking - I don't know, not a beekeeper).
    Shame she couldn't have been dispatched in a more elegant fashion - not a criticism of you or your technique, just sad that it came down to that. Somehow, I imagined a sharp knife and a witty rejoinder...

  • @winged_cat_4571
    @winged_cat_4571 7 років тому +42

    Sometimes you need to help the colony

  • @rxtf
    @rxtf 5 років тому +1

    The social structure of bees is fascinating. Thanks for the video.

  • @pisti7252
    @pisti7252 6 років тому +9

    It's sad, but it had to happen :/

  • @summerofshargiyah5920
    @summerofshargiyah5920 6 років тому

    I had no clue what bee keeping is, and may i say how this video was very interesting, informative i learned so many new things! And I actually enjoyed ! Good job 👏🏼

  • @danushkayuohan7634
    @danushkayuohan7634 7 років тому +4

    6:05 "I'm gonna take her out, and then I'm gonna take her out" - Vino Farm 2018

  • @DrClementShimizu
    @DrClementShimizu 7 років тому

    Interesting video. Love hearing your commentary. It was very sad, but its exciting to see all action and activity.

  • @AtlasInTheWest
    @AtlasInTheWest 6 років тому +7

    I think if I got a chance to being a beekeeper would be kinda awesome

  • @redsummergarden2600
    @redsummergarden2600 5 років тому

    That was fascinating. It's rather sad that the queen had to be killed, but I see now why it was necessary. Thanks for the detailed explanation.

  • @SplashJ
    @SplashJ 6 років тому +5

    How does a queen become a queen?

    • @vinofarm
      @vinofarm  6 років тому +4

      SamiraXox If you put that question in the UA-cam search box, there are good videos about it.

    • @xiaohuli96
      @xiaohuli96 4 роки тому +1

      Maybe she was born with it.. Or maybe it was maybelline😳

  • @pcdubya
    @pcdubya 5 років тому +1

    That's interesting , you looked rather conflicted about getting rid of her. One of my hives from a swarm is aggressive and a guy that helps me with my bees wanted to re queen it to tame it down some. We just went in there a week ago and it was busting at the seams with bees so we ended up splitting it instead since she's so productive. I see your reasoning though, good luck.

  • @DrAskildsen
    @DrAskildsen 7 років тому +48

    I think some dislike was from showing the kill. This is natural to do, maybe they wasn't ready for it hahaha

    • @DrAskildsen
      @DrAskildsen 7 років тому +9

      Oh, spare me, you hypocrite. Take your self together.

    • @KimonoSuki
      @KimonoSuki 6 років тому +1

      But he didn't?

    • @Bri-gq3lx
      @Bri-gq3lx 5 років тому +2

      @er asdef she was going to die anyway, and kill off the colony as well. If he didn't take her far enough away she would come back and kill the other queen or die while TRYING to kill the new queen. If he took her far enough away she would either die because she wouldn't know what to do with herself and die slowly and lonely or by being eaten. If she found a new hive in the wild, she would fight that hive's old queen and have a similar outcome to if she came back to her hive. If she won, that wild colony would die off. Bees are emotionally attached to their hives so even if she found a new hive there is no guarantee that she would even want to take it over. So yes, while it was a human who ended her life...it was the most humane thing to do for the queen while trying to help the colony survive and it was natural. If you would actually read the info that the uploader posts you might have understood that. 💁 You could have at least looked or skimmed to see IF he gave additional info, which he did.

    • @MercuryMlbbOfficial
      @MercuryMlbbOfficial 4 роки тому +1

      @@DrAskildsen take your self together ??
      Learn proper grammar

  • @welcome2thesimulation820
    @welcome2thesimulation820 6 років тому

    Even tho she’s dead with you burying her she will replenish the ground then the circle of life begins.. awesome video.. you seem like a real gentleman and take care of your bees...

  • @mayo9690
    @mayo9690 4 роки тому +4

    wtf when did i get interested about bees?

  • @vizz3x30
    @vizz3x30 5 років тому

    I didn't knew you need to do all of this before you resale new bee mum.
    When I've got my first 2 nukes , I spoted one is performing so terribly I decided to just randomly buy new queen of different breed, and then I just throw queen in cage on top of the hive, they first fought her, then after 2h formed carpet like shape directed at cage, and after another 4h simply accept her, just like that.
    I guess bees liked better mother more than their old one. I still haven't found original mother, corpse or alive, she's still missing, and I am still searching....

  • @kcnham292
    @kcnham292 7 років тому +6

    What if it's not the Queen's fault, and there is a varroa mite infestation?

    • @vinofarm
      @vinofarm  7 років тому +22

      There was no egg laying or new brood for 5 weeks. This queen had a problem. If there was some kind of external factor preventing her from laying, then why did the new queen fill the hive with eggs within a week of being introduced? If there was some kind of varroa problem, it didn't stop the new queen. All evidence points to a problem queen. When she was changed, the hive took off.

  • @betowolfstarheart8636
    @betowolfstarheart8636 6 років тому

    Also sorry you had to kill the queen there. I remember hearing instances when you have to destroy the queen when I was taking courses. It's definitely a painful thing to do.

  • @bip_bip_lechuga
    @bip_bip_lechuga 7 років тому +37

    Ah see now I must be the sadistic son of a b*tch cause I really wanted to watch you end her reign... But no, did it off camera, barely even seen a body. If this was a t.v. show I wouldn't even be convinced she was dead.

    • @jaylew8408
      @jaylew8408 7 років тому +6

      Ronald Huffington yep, totally pulled an Osama , the bitch is probably sharing a cabana with him sippin Mia tais, both complaining how they used to have hundreds of servants and now they have to wait 2 min for a refill

    • @TheRealNeck0
      @TheRealNeck0 6 років тому

      Equabolt why did i had a feeling that thats what you was going to say before reading it

    • @TheRealNeck0
      @TheRealNeck0 6 років тому

      Equabolt true Xd

  • @briandodds
    @briandodds 7 років тому +2

    I'm feeling very sad... :'( I do understand why, and I'm sorry you had to do that.

  • @eddyxv4802
    @eddyxv4802 7 років тому +4

    Bro it's okay I'm with you #NewQueenFTW

  • @user-lx8ir1zl9l
    @user-lx8ir1zl9l 5 років тому

    This guy is so brave. I can’t even be near a bee without internally freaking out.

  • @DongusMcBongus
    @DongusMcBongus 5 років тому +3

    This guy pulled a reverse Cersei.

  • @wilmafeuerstein434
    @wilmafeuerstein434 5 років тому

    Great video, just noted you are working the same procedure "checkerboard" as I do with with all my hives and best results. Great work, good luck.

  • @jakeweston8616
    @jakeweston8616 6 років тому +3

    C'mon people. Most of you who watched this video eat meat and therefore support the slaughter of animals, so one little queen bee isn't too much death and carnage.

  • @MrCloscutz
    @MrCloscutz 4 роки тому

    I have noticed some mistakes: the biggest that you introduced a frame whit larvaes and eggs because the queenlees bees started to feed larvaes to raise a new queen, this may cause rejection to new matted quuen. 2) You have frame with dark comb( these must be melted).

  • @King-ny5jm
    @King-ny5jm 5 років тому +3

    Pfft people saying he's good with bees , just wait untill i get my belt xD

  • @mephistopheles1666
    @mephistopheles1666 7 років тому +1

    Just a stupid question. Why not releasing the old Queen far away in the wild? Isn't she supposed to found a colony on her own?

    • @scotthibbs
      @scotthibbs 7 років тому

      Not a stupid question. This is exactly what the old queen did. Queens live about 5 years. She swarmed for the last time to form this colony to die. Since she is out of eggs this colony was dead. Once the workers were too old to gather pollen, they nurse (make nectar, wax and honey and feed larvae and queen). No new larvae so end of the life cycle and dead hive. The new queen was grabbed after her mating flight (before her first swarm) so she could be introduced to a new hive. This will be considered her first hive.
      If you watch the video again you will see the "left hive" making queen cells (with drone cells) and lots of brood. There can only be one Queen. Once the new queens hatch (probably not at the same time), mates with the drones (who die after mating) and comes back, the established (old) queen will take a portion of the workers and swarm away, she will try to keep doing this every year. (Thus pro-creating hives) In some cases, with multiple queen confusion (and other reasons), all the queens leave. This is called absconding.

  • @Haseeebo
    @Haseeebo 7 років тому +163

    Why not graphic? I came here for bloooooooood! Lol

    • @simondepauw5
      @simondepauw5 7 років тому +2

      i lolled

    • @TheRealNeck0
      @TheRealNeck0 6 років тому +6

      SAME Xd (im violent af lol)

    • @ddlcweeb3216
      @ddlcweeb3216 6 років тому +5

      Bees don’t have visible blood. Have you ever killed an ant?

    • @TheRealNeck0
      @TheRealNeck0 6 років тому +1

      tired of me yet? Yes and i did kill a bee before and well your right also i can see ant blood it looks like bogers and for some reason a fly have red blood

    • @Hannah-zj1yi
      @Hannah-zj1yi 6 років тому

      Lol samee

  • @maryst8481
    @maryst8481 6 років тому +1

    So what if she didnt lay eggs. When my queens dont lay eggs i let them go then put the new queen it

    • @vinofarm
      @vinofarm  6 років тому

      kaylee watson That doesn't sound like something a beekeeper would say.

  • @PhilipStruthers
    @PhilipStruthers 6 років тому +11

    The Queen is Dead...Long Live the Queen!

  • @herbertjacobs8422
    @herbertjacobs8422 6 років тому

    I hated that you had to kill the queen and I see in your eyes that it hurt. I am in the same situation and I have been putting it off for weeks now. But the hive need to get ready for winter and they will not make it unless they build up more. So I have decided to do it this week. She is a beautiful queen and the 1st Nuc that I purchased. But I did not ask how old the queen was. I am new to beekeeping. But I am interested to know how things worked out with this hive. I will look for more videos from you to find out.

  • @TheJurgen783
    @TheJurgen783 7 років тому +6

    you had to do what needs to be done, so you did a good thing!

  • @dtt129
    @dtt129 6 років тому +1

    How come there are so many capped brood if she hasn't been laying for 5 weeks?

  • @habbit4724
    @habbit4724 7 років тому +6

    I'm gonna take her out then I'm gonna take her out. Somehow this sounds so funny to me.

  • @michaeljricke611
    @michaeljricke611 6 років тому

    what kind of wedding ring are you wearing? I always take mine off. Afraid of my hand swelling up and having to get the ring cut off.

    • @vinofarm
      @vinofarm  6 років тому

      MichaelJRicke Silicone. I made a couple videos about it. ua-cam.com/video/kwvRqWaFxbM/v-deo.html

  • @kevinkaycee8584
    @kevinkaycee8584 7 років тому +23

    is it just me who wanted to see the queen bee brutally murdered?

  • @anthony8406
    @anthony8406 6 років тому

    Very interesting video! I never had the clue that queen bees were only responsible for simply laying eggs.

  • @popcornfilms1
    @popcornfilms1 6 років тому +3

    So you killed my wife?

  • @dathrilla4shizzle
    @dathrilla4shizzle 6 років тому

    2 probably really basic questions, but I am curious.
    1) With all those separate hives so close-by, do the bees ever go hive to hive helping in different areas....either on purpose or accidentally? Seems like it would be greatly difficult for bees to find their way home. If they are able to differentiate, then I am seriously impressed.
    2). What happens/ed to the bag of bees that came with your new queen? Are they freely accepted into their new hive? Are there generally any conflicts with outsiders (non-queen) joining a hive? Either from the already homed bees or the newcomers?
    Good video. Thanks!

  • @imperatorsteve
    @imperatorsteve 7 років тому +3

    The Queen is dead! Long live the Queen!!

  • @stinacorbett2375
    @stinacorbett2375 6 років тому

    aw the little "cut" at the end sooo cute

  • @hook5966
    @hook5966 7 років тому +4

    The queen is dead. Long live the queen! Nice burial.

  • @Platoon3090
    @Platoon3090 3 роки тому

    I had to pinch a queen yesterday. The first time I had to do that. But same thing. No new brood no eggs for for weeks. It’s tough you don’t want to do it, but it need to be done.

  • @MKarto
    @MKarto 7 років тому +4

    what a miss opportunity , why not try to make the first bee-democracy? xDD

    • @ikathiggs13
      @ikathiggs13 6 років тому

      Maloq Kartho I mean technically it is because the bees will kill a queen it doesn't like.