Selling paqueta is fine as that was part of the plan/expected. But kudos is a must keep this year! New manager and new look, we have to keep our best players for next season just so we can see what the new manager can do. If we fail next season then i understand our best players wanting to leave
I feel most were already reserved to Paqueta leaving this summer anyway so I'd be fine getting money in for him now, especially given the charges thing. Kudus though can't be allowed to go. We're at the level where we are attractive to good prospects that bigger clubs don't want to commit to just yet - so they let us have these types of players, see how they get on and then decide to poach them or not. So I understand we're in a difficult spot trying to keep our best players but to grow as a club, we need to hold on to them for at least a few seasons to improve our results and continue to be attractive to further prospects and then the cycle continues...
Agree , We have to have a strong foundation to build the squad on - Areola , Mavropanos , Alvarez , Kudus and Bowen . Personally I don't have an issue selling Paqueta , just not a fan of diving footballers who drop like they have been shot.
I lost my faith in Paqueta the day he went to hug Pep before the man city game. To me that was worse than the Payet transfer who was levels above as a player.
Stick by Paqueta and show him that he is loved by our club and if he is found innocent say to him we stuck by you so stick with us and help build our team.
Lovely sentiment but he’s already shown himself as a “want away” player, he basically downed tools this season for us, he’ll think only of himself no matter what happens
Man City should buy Paqueta for the £85m. After all, nothing would action against Paqueta by the FA, and, presumably, it would just become Man City charge 116 "complication", yet to be determined, and eventually likely conveniently set aside, due to costs of perusing. FA time spent probably better spent against lower Premier league easier targets. Or is this just me being sinical ?
@HammersChat Cor well thats a good question... I think I would probably would you know 😅 would back scarf man to use that 30 million to get someone else to fill the paqueta role.
Were always so close to putting together a top quality 11. This is the season you should be just adding quality to the 11. RB, LW, CF... CM at a push. With a season with no European football, this is not the season you rebuild the side. Its not really the season to be spending 25 million on a youngster who has no guarantee on starting, let alone selling your best players. The strategy this season should have been small squad, all resources pumped into improving the starting 11, gain subs through demotion, attack the league. We never get it right!
Yep.. let's get used to this. We have fantastic players at our club and these 'top' teams and Saudis are always oing to be sniffing around. Buckle up, it's going to be an interesting summer.
I love Lucas. But I do wonder sometimes whether he hurts us more when he’s not playing well versus helps us when he is playing well. And unfortunately, he plays poorly more often than he should. Understandable given the circumstances. I wouldn’t be that upset if the Saudi took them off her hands for a good price.
Kudus going is a none starter, ain't happening so as you said move on. Paqueta is interesting...i think we have to get his answe tbh and act quickly because it could really get in the way of our summer. However if it's something he'd be open to and doesn't wish to stay at West Ham, then I'd like to hope the deal could be at least 50/60 million (or push for the 85 because well they're crazy and desperate for big names) but if it's a lower fee then a sell on clause which would protect a % of any potential loss of fee if sold in the future.
60-70m of our budget is going on Kilman and an unknown Brazilian teenager. Do we really have enough money to buy a good striker, a good midfielder, another CB etc?
I thought Paqueta was poor in the second half of last season. And I've already written him off, can't see how is getting off the hook on those charges. Cash in and move on. But I doubt the rumour is true.
Not a place I think top players want to go unless at end of the career to take one last huge pay cheque!!! Paqueta may want to go for 6 months or so and get as much money as he can if and a big if he knows something to this betting stuff and knows a ban is coming……although I like to believe him and that he is innocent
I find it exasperating Geo, and it gets more so the further we get into the transfer window, If we were linked to 20 players and signed 6 of them I would find it exciting. But the domestic window has been open for a week and Russ on WHN has already listed 130 odd players we've been linked to. And the international window is still not open. One out of 130 is insane. I'm not saying no-one else should be enjoying it, that's none of my business, but I find it exhausting mate.
@@MakeWestHamGreatAgain That's a daft response fella. Hammers Chat is the best WHU fan site and I'm not going to stop watching it just to satisfy you. They're doing their job, my exasperation is with the click bait sites who produce the fake rumours. HC aren't able to determine which are real, but they do give health warnings when they doubt them. Grow up.
I get that but you’re a smart person, you can generally work out which are true and which are made up. Rule of thumb would be to believe not of it but be willing to discuss it hypothetically and only believe it once it happens. Fwiw I believe we bid for Fabricio Bruno, Samu (striker for Atletico) and Max Kilman. Probably held some discussions over Wesley. I also believe we will sign Wes Foderingham and we’re trying to sell Nayef Aguerd and that Johnson and Downes will leave the club. Apart from that, can’t think of any other rumour I believe.
@@philmcdonald7956 you're the one exasperated about the silly season when 99.9% of us know it's the silly season and don't take it to seriously. But you keep being exasperated about click bait sites instead of staying away from them, if that suits you.
Off the top of my head, there was an investigation into Xhaka for similar offences but they never went anywhere although I don’t recall them charging him. I’d have to research a bit into it mate
Can they not put a clause in the sale of 30m but 30m add-ons should he be found not guilty Or say 15m a year over 5 years but payments end should he be found guilty
Will I have explained many times to you, this is our job Yet you still constantly appear, on videos which you know you will dislike, to slag us off If anyone has too much time on their hands, I don’t think it’s us……
I’m ok with Paqueta going but kudus, no way, he’s my fav player
Selling paqueta is fine as that was part of the plan/expected. But kudos is a must keep this year! New manager and new look, we have to keep our best players for next season just so we can see what the new manager can do. If we fail next season then i understand our best players wanting to leave
Kudus*
Agree with all of this! Are you confident we keep Kudus?
@@TopherWeston we know what he meant, if typing on a phone then it has a tendency to change it to ‘kudos’ for you.
He knew what he meant just at to put him right which they do on kumb aswell .
Kudus is worth 200 million. He is that good.
I feel most were already reserved to Paqueta leaving this summer anyway so I'd be fine getting money in for him now, especially given the charges thing.
Kudus though can't be allowed to go. We're at the level where we are attractive to good prospects that bigger clubs don't want to commit to just yet - so they let us have these types of players, see how they get on and then decide to poach them or not. So I understand we're in a difficult spot trying to keep our best players but to grow as a club, we need to hold on to them for at least a few seasons to improve our results and continue to be attractive to further prospects and then the cycle continues...
We must keep kudus for another season he is brilliant for us
There is no point building a team if we sell our best players. Alverz, Bowen, Kudus and Paqueta. No point at all.
Agree , We have to have a strong foundation to build the squad on - Areola , Mavropanos , Alvarez , Kudus and Bowen . Personally I don't have an issue selling Paqueta , just not a fan of diving footballers who drop like they have been shot.
Agree,I dont understand how a lot of fans are ok with it,wtf did we leave the boleyn?
I lost my faith in Paqueta the day he went to hug Pep before the man city game. To me that was worse than the Payet transfer who was levels above as a player.
Sell Paqueta if we’ve got a replacement lined up. Don’t sell Kudus until we get £85m next season.
Stick by Paqueta and show him that he is loved by our club and if he is found innocent say to him we stuck by you so stick with us and help build our team.
Lovely sentiment but he’s already shown himself as a “want away” player, he basically downed tools this season for us, he’ll think only of himself no matter what happens
I think the Saudi clubs have enough money to buy FIFA's "no world wide ban vote."
Man City should buy Paqueta for the £85m. After all, nothing would action against Paqueta by the FA, and, presumably, it would just become Man City charge 116 "complication", yet to be determined, and eventually likely conveniently set aside, due to costs of perusing. FA time spent probably better spent against lower Premier league easier targets. Or is this just me being sinical ?
Can't see either player wanting to go to Saudi unless Paqman gets long suspention 😮😮😮
I hope to god this paqueta rumour is true and i hope he goes so we can get our 80 million and reinvest!
Would you accept £30m?
@HammersChat Cor well thats a good question... I think I would probably would you know 😅 would back scarf man to use that 30 million to get someone else to fill the paqueta role.
Me too, just out of fear he’s found guilty and/or it really impacts him next season whilst it drags on.
£30m is a lot for a good DOF
Were building a team, Keep them both
I'd do a deal for 60%.
There's more than the risk of ban.
There's also the fact that his judgement is a liability.
Were always so close to putting together a top quality 11. This is the season you should be just adding quality to the 11. RB, LW, CF... CM at a push. With a season with no European football, this is not the season you rebuild the side. Its not really the season to be spending 25 million on a youngster who has no guarantee on starting, let alone selling your best players. The strategy this season should have been small squad, all resources pumped into improving the starting 11, gain subs through demotion, attack the league. We never get it right!
I always take these rumours with a pinch of salt anyway, like... why wouldn't you want these players in your team?
Yep.. let's get used to this. We have fantastic players at our club and these 'top' teams and Saudis are always oing to be sniffing around. Buckle up, it's going to be an interesting summer.
Do you think either or both will actually leave though?
Surely Kudus will give us at least one more season!
I think I would cash in as he doesn’t really want to be here he wants a move to a
“bigger” club if there’s such a thing 😉😂
I love Lucas. But I do wonder sometimes whether he hurts us more when he’s not playing well versus helps us when he is playing well. And unfortunately, he plays poorly more often than he should. Understandable given the circumstances. I wouldn’t be that upset if the Saudi took them off her hands for a good price.
I think Kudus has more about him than just wanting to play football just for the pay packet
What do you mean?🤔
@@melissayeboah1210 I mean that I do not think Kudus is motivated by howmuch money he earns!
@@paulmcginty6530 True, i don't think he'll make that Saudi move no matter how much they offer.
The Paqueta rumor is such bs he’s not going anywhere till the charges are dealt with
Geo can he appeal against the 3 man ban thought there decision was final mate ?
He can via CAS Rob.
Pac man is a match winner a great player and he has magic i think these are the players wanna keep
If we got serious money for both i would sell and reinvest again in another 4-5 players
£300 million for the pair if they really want them 🤷🏻
Paqueta should put a bet on the date he's going to sign for a Saudi Club.
I literally just read on X from West Ham Central that Souček is a possible replacement for Kroos at Real Madrid 😱
😂
Kudus going is a none starter, ain't happening so as you said move on. Paqueta is interesting...i think we have to get his answe tbh and act quickly because it could really get in the way of our summer. However if it's something he'd be open to and doesn't wish to stay at West Ham, then I'd like to hope the deal could be at least 50/60 million (or push for the 85 because well they're crazy and desperate for big names) but if it's a lower fee then a sell on clause which would protect a % of any potential loss of fee if sold in the future.
60-70m of our budget is going on Kilman and an unknown Brazilian teenager. Do we really have enough money to buy a good striker, a good midfielder, another CB etc?
I think it could be dependant on sales, particularly Aguerd and ideally Benrahma (surely this needs sorted asap)
I would say to Wolves £30 million take it or leave it, no way he is worth more.
I thought Paqueta was poor in the second half of last season. And I've already written him off, can't see how is getting off the hook on those charges. Cash in and move on. But I doubt the rumour is true.
How is Paqueta going to play for us with this hanging over his head. If he is going to play to his ability for us is a question
I am intrigued as to how he gets on in Copa America for this reason but I also appreciate that’s a difference environment and away from England/the FA
Iv played football its hard not to play ur best and his pro its his life sure he wants to shine so he will play well
Not a place I think top players want to go unless at end of the career to take one last huge pay cheque!!!
Paqueta may want to go for 6 months or so and get as much money as he can if and a big if he knows something to this betting stuff and knows a ban is coming……although I like to believe him and that he is innocent
I dunno, there’s a few of decent age that’s gone out there, I used to have the same opinion before Ruben Neves went over there.
I find it exasperating Geo, and it gets more so the further we get into the transfer window, If we were linked to 20 players and signed 6 of them I would find it exciting. But the domestic window has been open for a week and Russ on WHN has already listed 130 odd players we've been linked to. And the international window is still not open. One out of 130 is insane. I'm not saying no-one else should be enjoying it, that's none of my business, but I find it exhausting mate.
Don't watch it then.
@@MakeWestHamGreatAgain That's a daft response fella. Hammers Chat is the best WHU fan site and I'm not going to stop watching it just to satisfy you. They're doing their job, my exasperation is with the click bait sites who produce the fake rumours. HC aren't able to determine which are real, but they do give health warnings when they doubt them. Grow up.
I get that but you’re a smart person, you can generally work out which are true and which are made up.
Rule of thumb would be to believe not of it but be willing to discuss it hypothetically and only believe it once it happens.
Fwiw I believe we bid for Fabricio Bruno, Samu (striker for Atletico) and Max Kilman. Probably held some discussions over Wesley. I also believe we will sign Wes Foderingham and we’re trying to sell Nayef Aguerd and that Johnson and Downes will leave the club.
Apart from that, can’t think of any other rumour I believe.
@@philmcdonald7956 you're the one exasperated about the silly season when 99.9% of us know it's the silly season and don't take it to seriously. But you keep being exasperated about click bait sites instead of staying away from them, if that suits you.
@@HammersChat Can't disagree with any of that mate (apart from maybe the smart bit :) I was just giving my perspective on it.
Geo how can we firm up that bet please 😂
😂😂😂
Nobody is spending money on Paqueta at this stage.
Unlikely but I discuss this anyway.
Has anybody “beat the FA” when it comes to betting allegations and found not guilty???
Off the top of my head, there was an investigation into Xhaka for similar offences but they never went anywhere although I don’t recall them charging him.
I’d have to research a bit into it mate
Fashanu? Le Tizz?
Ok. Was jw to be honest I’m not as hopeful since they called the FA’s bluff
300mil
Each.
Milligrams. 🙂
Thumbnail is wrong mate, which is unlike you. Too much Irn-Bru yesterday morning? 😉
Oh ffs 😂 why’s nobody else given me the heads up 😂😂
Can they please please please take Antonio
I'd take 50mill for Paq. He was shite back the of the season. He didn't care anymore.
Can they not put a clause in the sale of 30m but 30m add-ons should he be found not guilty
Or say 15m a year over 5 years but payments end should he be found guilty
I’ll pass your details onto David Sullivan, I like it.
"let's discuss stuff I think is made up"!
Silly season. 😊😊
I would argue anyone that clicks on a video like this, has a similar mindset.
Or am unsure why you’d click on a video like this tbh.
Sell pacqueta for close to £50m, buy emille Smith Rowe for 30m
pacqueta yes ..... anyone elsen no
“We are here to discuss transfer rumours that l believe are made up”. Worth listening too then 😂😂😂No
Did you see the title and think ‘yeah I believe this’?
Or did you click on a video about transfer rumours you didn’t believe?
Non story you guys obviously have too much time on your hands
Will I have explained many times to you, this is our job
Yet you still constantly appear, on videos which you know you will dislike, to slag us off
If anyone has too much time on their hands, I don’t think it’s us……