You're right, but for my opinion, it is not enough space to load plates. You have soon to load 10kg/22lbs plates when you like to go heavier and this sucks, when you like to do dumbell presses for example.
@@dr.radloffschannel5854 as Coop suggested the slop would be minimized by tighter tollarence plates. In terms of loading and unloading it makes more sense from a timing perspective and where the weights are in relation to your body a safety perspective. You have twice the amount of sleeves to load and unload compared to a barbell so it would save time. With regards to safety dumbbell weights are closer to your body if there was a collar sliding off the weight would have a greater likelihood of making impact with the user compared to a barbell weight.
the best solution i can come up with to solve the slop is buy or cut yourself a few different thicknesses of rubber o-rings and use those between plate and collar. the company should consider including some out of the box, too, seems like an easy way to fix the only real problem with their product.
Yeah, rubber O ring would solve the issue. Because rubber is tough but also a bit spongy. Also helps to take diameter measurement of your plates, and the clip spacing so you know where the clip locks in
First day impressions:It arrived in a waist high box. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxP26Tir6n60vUkdtn4mbwhRO8cwuJQNy2 Each dumbbell was in its own foam box within the shipping box. Everything was secure and in good shape. No weird smells. The weight changing mechanism is really smooth and straight forward. Changing weight is really fast and easy. Though the handle is plastic, I don't think it will be breaking anytime soon. So far pretty impressed after my first session with them. I was afraid they were going to be too wide at first, but I didn't have any issues with them while doing upright rows.
I love it, and I'm getting it. This bad boy will last the rest of your life, so its worth it. People will spend $1000 every year on a new phone without thinking twice about it...I don't get it. These dumbbells are a no brainer.
Was the Dumbler designed with any particular plate brand in mind? I'll be in the market for new change plates within the next year and would like to buy specifically for the pair I pre-ordered.
@@connermorris2224 We have not targeted any specific plates, but The Dumbler benefits most if paired with compact weight plates, in order to to reach high loads! We consider thin steel plates to be a good match with our dumbell, if high load is preferred 💪 We are looking into designing our own plates, but it will be a while before these hit the market 🧐
@@ringperm for øyeblikket tillater vi bare betaling for The Dumbler i USD. Vi jobber med å få implementert betaling i NOK også 😄 når det er sagt, vil betaling i USD vil ikke være utslagsgivende for sluttpris!
If you're at all familiar with the added machining processes required to achieve that built-in collar, on top of the fact that both titanium and magnets aren't cheap in production, you won't think this price is out of line. If I'm looking at these versus something like a chan bar (which I really want), I can understand the $400 price tag of these a lot easier.
Love your work coop..my gym is coming together thanks to you. I am very happy with every piece of equipment you have recommended. With my asskissing said, 400$ normally 500 is way too much for adjustable dumbells. They will need to come down in price to really see market control.
Of all the equipment that I have tried or tried to get during this time, dumbbells been one of my struggles since I did not want to spend the money or space on a lot of regular dumbbells. If the Ironmaster adjustable dumbbells were not only available through a lottery system I would almost certainly prefer those to either the Rogue or Gungnir adjustable handles. However I did pre-order these dumbbell handles when I saw them in this and the other video. 1) The price? The Rogue stainless steel DB-15 plus collar is $185 so about $30 for a total price difference for two. I do not find this too big of a price difference given some of the features I like. I do agree though that $499 would be excessive. 2) The shorter length than the DB-15? That is a feature in my opinion. I own 2 of the stainless steel DB-15 and they are just too darn long. In two of the key movements I like Dumbbells for, double curls, and double overhead press, the 20.5" total length of the DB-15 means that the dumbbells are always hitting each other. The Gungnir are 18.42" in length which should help a lot in using these bars for me. Go with the DB-10 you say? The loadable length on those 3.65" sleeves is only 2.15", is crazy short. I have no idea why they are so short. Especially given there is another product, the DB25-10 with a decent 2.5" loadable length. Here is the problem, the DB25-10 has a 25mm handle. I have fairly average hand size and I find these uncomfortably small diameter. Especially if I have been beating my hands up on other lifts that session. I just do not understand why Rogue does not combine the DB25-10 sleeve and the DB10 handle to make a usable adjustable dumbbell in the 15-70lb range (assuming .75" 10LB iron plates like those from REP Fitness). 3) You can fit less plates? This is not as big an issue for me. I am happy with lighter weights for chest press, and I have other options, like landmines and barbells for rows if I want to go above 125lbs since I can still fit 122lbs per dumbbell. It will be a while for me before a 244lb bench press for one rep would not be an amazing day, let alone a dumbbell press at a combined 244lb. 4) Now I do have a concern about the loose fit. However the REP Fitness iron plates are much tighter fit so I expect a lot less slop overall than those CAP plates in the review. Anyway I am taking a chance that these will be the loadable dumbbells for me when they ship hopefully in June.
@@Natural.Crusader I posted this 2 years ago, at the time I was making my purchases, probably a year prior to this post, there was nothing simple about getting Ironmaster products, like their adjustable dumbbell. I specifically mention this in my comment. "If the Ironmaster adjustable dumbbells were _not_ only available through a lottery system I would almost certainly prefer those to either the Rogue or Gungnir adjustable handles." I purchased my first DB-10 and DB-25 adjustable dumbbells from Rogue. This was due to them being available, barely. The IronMaster was suffering apparently much worse from supply and production issues related to the pandemic. Since I had not been successful in winning a chance to purchase their product I had to go another direction. I also did not want to pay extremely inflated prices that resellers were asking for other adjustable dumbbells. Once I already had the DB15 and DB25s I also purchased additional compatible plates to go along with them. I then sold the DB-10s, for a bit of a profit, and pre-ordered the Gungnir to get access to the significant discount. 2+ years on and I still am very happy with them and they serve me well. Overall today my dumbbell problem is pretty much solved with the combination of the adjustable ones I own, and a few select urethane coated professional fixed dumbbells. The great thing is, if you take care of them, this equipment basically lasts forever. Now, if I was to start from scratch today I would almost certainly go other directions, but then this is nearly 2024, not mid 2020 to end of 2021.
For the knee problem i solved it using power hooks.... and there is the advantage to start in the good position without rolling back with the heavy dumbells
I might be crazy but $400 for a pair of DBs is in line with rogue at $350 with collars... I'll spend the extra 50 bucks for peace of mind I know the shipping is going to be outrageously different.
Agreed. Price point needs to include collars you’d buy for other handles. They’re priced as premium product but not too far out of line with Rogue or Eleiko
@@lukea2806 agree depending on what segment of the market you’re in. Same arguments can be made for other things like cars, homes, etc. if you’re looking for just base model handle that’ll likely work just fine then Titan or any other no name brand would probably work without issue and be super cheap
@@BrandonSchwartz1 but in my opinion (which, to be fair, is an opinion) loadable dumbbell handles are already inferior because they’re clunky and awkward, so I don’t see why you would pay a premium price for them unless you were filthy rich and doing it because you can. I personally think this product appeals to a tiny fraction of home gym owners. Cool, but not practical to me
Thanks for the review, Coop! I've purchased a LOT based on your videos, including pre-ordering this item. FYI to all - Gungnir will sell these individually if you contact them. I have Powerblocks and only wanted one of these for >90lb loading for some single dumbbell exercises, and think this is a very worthy purchase.
Loved your 1st video on the Olympic Bar and when I saw the Dumbbell, I HAD TO ORDER it! And because of this video I did.. My logic: I have all the plates (Over 700lbs of plates), and this would essentially replace a FULL rack of Dummbells which could be in the price range of $5K+ for a good set like IronGrip with Rack. So $438 W/ Tax.. to me, it's worth it.. but I agree if I had to do place on my knee for bench and putting them back on the ground maybe a task.. but I'm thinking I could just have the weight hit my lap then place it on the ground
If Coop used better plates there would be a lot less slop. Rubber/urethane change plates would be the best. Those Gungnir handles with Eleiko Vulcano change plates would be excellent.
When u said to quiet myself i thought, ‘what the hell for’, then i found myself so satisfied by that damn sliding and clicking sound. About to go order a pair now and oh yeah, new sub. Keep ot up bro.
bellsofsteel has plates in stock right now! Don’t sleep. I ordered a bunch today to go along with my PRX home gym setup. Got extra 10’s and 5’s for the dumbler!
@@iBamboozler I live in an area where people stole my mother's cancer medicine from my mail box. Do you think weights have a chance? My mother passed away from cancer.
@@YoKnow make signature required a condition of delivery when you order plates. Be kind of hard to steal something that needs to be delivered on a pallet. Best of luck to you man.
I just bought the Marcy dumbbell kit off Amazon. It's the cheapest set listed. My entire homestead gym is made up of the cheapest stuff that should get the job done. I'm looking forward to giving them a try today. I definitely agree that being able to use the same weights for my bench, lat pull down, easy bar and barbells is ideal for the home gym.
Just as a comparison, the iron master upgrade package from 75 lb to 120lb is $349. That’s after dropping $500 on the original set. I love my iron masters but as I outgrow them options like the ones Coop showed today start to make a lot more sense to me.
The price is good for what you get the roque with the collars is about the same. But I would prefer a good one inch loadable dumbbell which makes much more sense for doing heavy presses and rows. And it does not have enough length on the sleeves.
I thought the built-in collar was a little extra on a barbell but, yeah, I could see that being nice on a dumbbell. Dumbbells get vertical way more often and the knurl is less of a big deal too.
I’m glad I stumbled onto your videos. Thank you for your honest opinion and testing on products. The only problem I now have is my shopping list is just getting longer.
I have adjustable dumbbells up to 50lbs but for anything heavier an easy alternative is to loop a luggage tie down strap through weight plates and a steel cable handle, for each side, that works fine for things like incline bench, farmer's walks and military presses.
I was so excited for these since I need to get some home gym equipment and waited for the pre-order page to launch. That was an ordeal in and of itself because the page didn't launch when expected. I loved the idea of them for all of the same reasons Coop does. But after really thinking about it, my apartment living self would just be better off buying a set of bands, so that's exactly what I did. I hate to cancel orders, but Gugnir was really great about it.
These are expensive for what they are, but less expensive than many adjustable dumbbells, plus they will last forever, so I wouldn't call them unaffordable.
@@plmn93 400 dollars for a pair of LOADABLE, not adjustable, dumbbells. You can get the same thing effectively for 100 or less. You’re just paying 4x that for the built-in collar
price wise its.pretty.close to a pair of db15+oso collars with tax shipping etc which is what I did last year. Of course you need plates but those are relatively cheap, and it replaces an entire rack of regular dbs which are a lot more these days. Particularly with shipping, storage and the add on sets to reach the weights something like this will handle.
You had me thinking that the loading part of the could extend longer for more space to load more plates lol dang it that would have been a really cool option
The issue with dumbbell bench press and resting the dumbbells on the thigh is to rest the plate on the thigh and not the end of the dumbbell. If your dumbbells have collars with a tension bar then that needs to be on the outside when you pick up the dumbbells so that the weight doesn't come down and rest on the bar/thigh.
Hey Coop, you should review the loadable dumbbells from The Strength Co. I think they give Rouge Fitness a run for their money, their collars are pretty good too. However, you are the expert. I'd love to see a video on it.
Could you please share the end-to-end length of this dumbell bar? The mechanism is fantastic though has a list of negatives. It was very well explained too.
Funny, the ordinary spin lock has one advantage over these. Its easier to rest them on the legs for bench. With the spinlock, you can put a few washers or spacers on there so that the collar sits flush on the handle. Then you rest the collar on your legs. The "side of the plates on the knees" thing works as a substitute but it a bit awkward.
Gungnir, if your watching please add a piece of rubber on to the inside end of the collar, the compression of the rubber can make up for the "slop" as garage gym reviews puts it, and it will dampen the noise so i wont wake up my kids. You can also make it thinner since its not holding nearly enough weight, and even possibly thinner groves to have a tighter fitment. have you thought about a one groove design? with half the weight being able to be put on the bar two notches going into two grooves is a bit overkill. i know this can affect manufacturing processes but if you dont do it someone else will
These look very good, the only reason I haven't bought loadable dumbbells for my home gym yet, is that I'm trying to be as space efficient as possible, so I was looking for an option that would allow me to do skullcrushers with them, this is definitely that! The price is a bit steep (370 EUR with shipping to Germany), but once I've renovated the basement, I'll definitely take another look at these. I'm pouring my own plates, so also that'll allow me to make plates at the exact thickness I need, and avoid the slop, although, with 108mm for concrete, I'll probably (obviously depending on what diameter I choose to go with) top out around 40kg on the handle, which is probably ok, but not great.
I was looking at these, and I see they sell their own plates. I hope the gap between the collars and plates are smaller, as the plates use din this video, would abs be a no go in terms of gap!
Coop, could you try and test Rogue DB25-10 loadable dumbbells and with the US OSU Aluminium collars? I'd very much like to see that combo and how well the collars does there.
Awesome DB handles !! (Costy) Never understood 2 Things: 1) why doesnt 50 mm screwable handles exist ? 2) you should not put the bar on your leg ! Instead put 1/2 side of the plate on your leg! Way more comfortable. And not worse then a normal dB...
Damn I was getting real hyped for these til I saw the price. The biggest downsides in seeing is sleeve length, mild knurling, and the fact we’d all have to look for smaller plates.
It’s a lot easier on the wrists when the plates rotate also. On my fixed dbs at home I purposely loosen the bolts at the end to allow for rotation. Which is why Watson dbs are also the best.
At the end of the video, it would have been good to actually measure up the maximum loadable sleeve length against the Rogue (+collar). Hard to see, but the Gungnir might come out as a smaller loadable length?
Quantity has a quality all its own. Dumblers cost $400($399) for a pair, Rogues cost $250 a pair. These are both incredibly nice loadable dumbbells that should exceed anyone's needs and not significantly break down over time, I consider both handles equally perfect. So you're paying $150 for the built in clips on the Dumblers. Rogue OSO collars cost $40 a pair, so they make the Rogue set total $330. Assuming neither break are the Dumbler's worth $70 more than the Rogues+OSO collars? If you are ok without Rogue's collars (and/or value money more) it's a much harder question. Metal clips are $5 a piece on Amazon so $400 Dumblers vs $270 Rogues+metal clips. Would you pay $130 more for the Dumblers? Metal clips aren't perfect, although they're good enough for dumbell weights and exercises in my opinion, but you could buy 26 more of them before you equal the Dumblers for price. Dang, doing the math makes me wish I could've gotten the Dumblers instead of Rogue's+collars 3 years ago. Especially since I don't like the Rogue OSO collars and the Dumblers look so convenient. My #1 concern was longevity, but the amount of abuse shown in this review (and my low weights) puts that to rest. If Garage Gym Reviews could hook us up with a discount, and a corresponding affiliate bonus for himself, I would be extremely tempted to make the effort to sell my Rogue's and upgrade. Or more realistically just buy the Dumblers, keep saying I intend to sell the Rogue's, and do all the insane 4 loadable dumbell super sets I can imagine.
@@harmanrandhawa3191 .... The key to the Gungnir dumbbell handles has to do with the built in collar. The majority of collars will slip off. Unless the "Fat Chubby Dumbbell Handles" (that UA-cam link) has non-slip collars, then you can’t really compare the two. The only other real comparison to the Gungnir are the Muscle Motion Spinlocks: gymdirect.com.au/products/spin-lock-olympic-dumbbell-han
If you put a 1/4" foam rubber washer on the inside of the handle in front of the plates, it would compress when you put the collar on and take up all of that slack.
I usually make fun of most adjustable dumbbells, but damn that thing is cool. As for the clunking of the iron, I actually like the sound, which is saying something, as I'm rather compulsive about noise. But that sound is just quintessential weightlifting to me.
They have a one inch bar. Would prefer to see a standard weight plate adjustable dumbbell. I was really excited when coop said dumbbells were in the works. Wish they’d have started with the smaller bars vs. Olympic. The plates are easier to use around your head. I’m not even that strong yet so a big fat dumbbell is kinda overkill. Also I would LOVE to see how easy and fast Ironmaster plates could be interchanged on a standard size gungnir bar.
Just got the Fringe Sport loadable DB pair, and they’re solid. This looks like a premium product, but I wonder how much of the price is Gungnar knowing the gym equipment market is crazy right now?
I love these, wish they would've made the lock slightly smaller though, so that the overall length of the dumbbells could just be a couple of centimeters smaller, but overall it's great.
Please do a review of NordicTrack. It's special. It has macro weight adjustment and micro weight adjustment with four smaller plates (two on each side) that add 2.5 or 5 pounds.
Personally I started with standard weight plates, so when I do upgrade to Olympic, unless I need to trade or sell my standards to buy olympics, I’m keeping the standards for dumbbells and curl bars (up to 200 lbs should be plenty for all my lifts short of large compound lifts) realistically, it feels like unless you already have a good Olympic weight plate set, Olympic loadable dumbbells seem clunky and awkward, plus with standard bars, threaded collars are very common and fantastic. That said, I’m also looking to add some non adjustable dumbbells for quality of life only... I can do 95% of anything I think of with mine and loadable dumbbells are always my suggestion for what to start with... with standard plates, a straight bar, curl bar, 4 dumbbells, adjustable bench, a few bands, a plate loaded lat pull down machine, and a jump rope, you literally have a full gym you can do anything short of heavy compound lifts, which while nice, are NOT required to get in shape or build your body!! Also, loading the dumbbell with more smaller plates, helps you feel better when you put it on your leg...
Dang man, I go 200lb and loadable dumbbells for $130. Keep in mind it was pre COVID. I don’t know if I could spend that much on one piece of equipment when I could by a reverse hyper for that amount. But they are really cool.
I think the built in collar makes a lot more sense on adjustable dumbbells then a barbell. Very cool! Thanks Coop!
I think cheeseburgers are delicious
I have built in collars on my shirts. Now that's where it makes sense.
You're right, but for my opinion, it is not enough space to load plates. You have soon to load 10kg/22lbs plates when you like to go heavier and this sucks, when you like to do dumbell presses for example.
Disagree. The slop is exponentially annoying on various DB movements unlike a BB that is only going horizontal and plate slop is less pronounced
@@dr.radloffschannel5854 as Coop suggested the slop would be minimized by tighter tollarence plates. In terms of loading and unloading it makes more sense from a timing perspective and where the weights are in relation to your body a safety perspective. You have twice the amount of sleeves to load and unload compared to a barbell so it would save time. With regards to safety dumbbell weights are closer to your body if there was a collar sliding off the weight would have a greater likelihood of making impact with the user compared to a barbell weight.
"They probably don't warranty for this, but someone has to do this for science"
I love this dude!
the best solution i can come up with to solve the slop is buy or cut yourself a few different thicknesses of rubber o-rings and use those between plate and collar. the company should consider including some out of the box, too, seems like an easy way to fix the only real problem with their product.
you could probably print spacers with a 3d printer super cheap also.
Yeah, rubber O ring would solve the issue. Because rubber is tough but also a bit spongy. Also helps to take diameter measurement of your plates, and the clip spacing so you know where the clip locks in
Reason I came here was to see if someone suggested this. Be nice to see a test if that. 🙂
First day impressions:It arrived in a waist high box. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxP26Tir6n60vUkdtn4mbwhRO8cwuJQNy2 Each dumbbell was in its own foam box within the shipping box. Everything was secure and in good shape. No weird smells. The weight changing mechanism is really smooth and straight forward. Changing weight is really fast and easy. Though the handle is plastic, I don't think it will be breaking anytime soon. So far pretty impressed after my first session with them. I was afraid they were going to be too wide at first, but I didn't have any issues with them while doing upright rows.
Man, that intro was not only completely unnecessary but also completely necessary
This makes more sense then not making sense.
It’s not the intro we deserve. It’s the intro we need. 😉
Every intro comes with an outro.
When you bench with loadable dumbbells, rest the sides of the plates on your knees instead of the sleeves. I always thought it was pretty intuitive.
💯👏😃
I actually invested in a Versa spot dumbbell holder when using loadable dumbbells to bench press. Works well, and much safer. Hit PR's using it.
Only reason I can think of not to do this, is if your plates are so wide as to hit your forearms in the starting position.
Yeah, that's the obvious thing to do.
Or rest them on the FLOOR. It should be on your lap momentarily before lying down. It doesnt bother me
Biggest surprise to me is that Coop has some Cap plates in his gym.
He must be poor like Kenny.
Plot twist, all of his weights are CAP with other brand names printed on them.
Whatever gets the job done I say...
I love how excited Coop gets about equipment. It's infectious and makes me more excited to work out.
I put my order in for these when the pre-order dropped. Really looking forward to getting these
I just put a pre-order in on your meem.
Same, was $438 total including shipping for me
Yep, me too can’t wait to get them in.
@@ericcartmansstrengthandpow5960 did you get your dumblers yet?
@@loganfulk3131 did you get your dumbbells?
I love it, and I'm getting it. This bad boy will last the rest of your life, so its worth it.
People will spend $1000 every year on a new phone without thinking twice about it...I don't get it. These dumbbells are a no brainer.
Thanks alot for the review, Coop! 💪 If anyone has any questions, please send us an email or comment here! 👍
Was the Dumbler designed with any particular plate brand in mind? I'll be in the market for new change plates within the next year and would like to buy specifically for the pair I pre-ordered.
Litt dyrt, men jeg vil ha. Hvor lenge varer forhåndssalget?
Og har dere side med priser i NOK?
@@connermorris2224
We have not targeted any specific plates, but The Dumbler benefits most if paired with compact weight plates, in order to to reach high loads! We consider thin steel plates to be a good match with our dumbell, if high load is preferred 💪 We are looking into designing our own plates, but it will be a while before these hit the market 🧐
@@ringperm for øyeblikket tillater vi bare betaling for The Dumbler i USD. Vi jobber med å få implementert betaling i NOK også 😄 når det er sagt, vil betaling i USD vil ikke være utslagsgivende for sluttpris!
I pre-ordered these the first day they were available. Seriously love the design and can’t wait until they come it.
I ordered them after watching the review. Ship date is june
Did you get your dumbbells? I’m still waiting for mine.
If you're at all familiar with the added machining processes required to achieve that built-in collar, on top of the fact that both titanium and magnets aren't cheap in production, you won't think this price is out of line. If I'm looking at these versus something like a chan bar (which I really want), I can understand the $400 price tag of these a lot easier.
Not out of line but out of market imho,
Love your work coop..my gym is coming together thanks to you. I am very happy with every piece of equipment you have recommended. With my asskissing said, 400$ normally 500 is way too much for adjustable dumbells. They will need to come down in price to really see market control.
I'm beginning to think that the steering wheel in Coop's car is knurled.
Lol 😂
His wife and kids are knurled.
I would like that
Ask his chauffeur is it is knurled.
Of all the equipment that I have tried or tried to get during this time, dumbbells been one of my struggles since I did not want to spend the money or space on a lot of regular dumbbells.
If the Ironmaster adjustable dumbbells were not only available through a lottery system I would almost certainly prefer those to either the Rogue or Gungnir adjustable handles.
However I did pre-order these dumbbell handles when I saw them in this and the other video.
1) The price? The Rogue stainless steel DB-15 plus collar is $185 so about $30 for a total price difference for two. I do not find this too big of a price difference given some of the features I like. I do agree though that $499 would be excessive.
2) The shorter length than the DB-15? That is a feature in my opinion. I own 2 of the stainless steel DB-15 and they are just too darn long. In two of the key movements I like Dumbbells for, double curls, and double overhead press, the 20.5" total length of the DB-15 means that the dumbbells are always hitting each other. The Gungnir are 18.42" in length which should help a lot in using these bars for me.
Go with the DB-10 you say? The loadable length on those 3.65" sleeves is only 2.15", is crazy short. I have no idea why they are so short. Especially given there is another product, the DB25-10 with a decent 2.5" loadable length. Here is the problem, the DB25-10 has a 25mm handle. I have fairly average hand size and I find these uncomfortably small diameter. Especially if I have been beating my hands up on other lifts that session. I just do not understand why Rogue does not combine the DB25-10 sleeve and the DB10 handle to make a usable adjustable dumbbell in the 15-70lb range (assuming .75" 10LB iron plates like those from REP Fitness).
3) You can fit less plates? This is not as big an issue for me. I am happy with lighter weights for chest press, and I have other options, like landmines and barbells for rows if I want to go above 125lbs since I can still fit 122lbs per dumbbell. It will be a while for me before a 244lb bench press for one rep would not be an amazing day, let alone a dumbbell press at a combined 244lb.
4) Now I do have a concern about the loose fit. However the REP Fitness iron plates are much tighter fit so I expect a lot less slop overall than those CAP plates in the review.
Anyway I am taking a chance that these will be the loadable dumbbells for me when they ship hopefully in June.
I simpy got the ironmasters and didnt need to pay for the db15 and the gungnir which is completely unnecessary
@@Natural.Crusader I posted this 2 years ago, at the time I was making my purchases, probably a year prior to this post, there was nothing simple about getting Ironmaster products, like their adjustable dumbbell. I specifically mention this in my comment.
"If the Ironmaster adjustable dumbbells were _not_ only available through a lottery system I would almost certainly prefer those to either the Rogue or Gungnir adjustable handles."
I purchased my first DB-10 and DB-25 adjustable dumbbells from Rogue. This was due to them being available, barely. The IronMaster was suffering apparently much worse from supply and production issues related to the pandemic. Since I had not been successful in winning a chance to purchase their product I had to go another direction. I also did not want to pay extremely inflated prices that resellers were asking for other adjustable dumbbells.
Once I already had the DB15 and DB25s I also purchased additional compatible plates to go along with them. I then sold the DB-10s, for a bit of a profit, and pre-ordered the Gungnir to get access to the significant discount. 2+ years on and I still am very happy with them and they serve me well.
Overall today my dumbbell problem is pretty much solved with the combination of the adjustable ones I own, and a few select urethane coated professional fixed dumbbells.
The great thing is, if you take care of them, this equipment basically lasts forever. Now, if I was to start from scratch today I would almost certainly go other directions, but then this is nearly 2024, not mid 2020 to end of 2021.
The only man I've ever seen in 25 years of my life.. ride a dumbbell. You, sir just earned my respect. I will def sub.
Alright, I’m 40 seconds in lol I predict it’s too expensive 😂
Though it's a hundred off for the intro price.
it's almost 3x the price of a "normal" handle
@@satinderjit4 a normal handle is $5CAD, these aren't $15 a pop
@@satinderjit4 the Rogue ones - and the two pairs of collars you'd need - is pretty comparable in price
@@stephennolan219 I would definitely go with these at that price
11:46 I just put the plate part on my leg works just fine
Coop, the INTRO was FUNNY as hell! You da man brahdah!
For the knee problem i solved it using power hooks.... and there is the advantage to start in the good position without rolling back with the heavy dumbells
Mine are on the way...actually not scheduled here until June, unfortunately.
I don't have a home gym. I never will. But I love your videos. Just going through them all is awesome.
Your killing it with the Dumbbell Reviews! So many great choices! I walk in my garage and look at my sad adjustable bow flex dumbbells from 2007.
these are good but found these dumbbells that are way cheaper
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I might be crazy but $400 for a pair of DBs is in line with rogue at $350 with collars... I'll spend the extra 50 bucks for peace of mind I know the shipping is going to be outrageously different.
Shipping is only $39 😊👍
Agreed. Price point needs to include collars you’d buy for other handles. They’re priced as premium product but not too far out of line with Rogue or Eleiko
350 for a pair of loadable dumbbell handles is still absolutely insane
@@lukea2806 agree depending on what segment of the market you’re in. Same arguments can be made for other things like cars, homes, etc. if you’re looking for just base model handle that’ll likely work just fine then Titan or any other no name brand would probably work without issue and be super cheap
@@BrandonSchwartz1 but in my opinion (which, to be fair, is an opinion) loadable dumbbell handles are already inferior because they’re clunky and awkward, so I don’t see why you would pay a premium price for them unless you were filthy rich and doing it because you can. I personally think this product appeals to a tiny fraction of home gym owners. Cool, but not practical to me
health is wealth and investing in stuff to improve mental and physical is worth it
Thanks for the review, Coop! I've purchased a LOT based on your videos, including pre-ordering this item. FYI to all - Gungnir will sell these individually if you contact them. I have Powerblocks and only wanted one of these for >90lb loading for some single dumbbell exercises, and think this is a very worthy purchase.
Your video production value outstanding
Loved your 1st video on the Olympic Bar and when I saw the Dumbbell, I HAD TO ORDER it! And because of this video I did.. My logic: I have all the plates (Over 700lbs of plates), and this would essentially replace a FULL rack of Dummbells which could be in the price range of $5K+ for a good set like IronGrip with Rack. So $438 W/ Tax.. to me, it's worth it.. but I agree if I had to do place on my knee for bench and putting them back on the ground maybe a task.. but I'm thinking I could just have the weight hit my lap then place it on the ground
If Coop used better plates there would be a lot less slop. Rubber/urethane change plates would be the best. Those Gungnir handles with Eleiko Vulcano change plates would be excellent.
Price seems fair to me, considering the collars are included - and also safer and more secure than collars.
When u said to quiet myself i thought, ‘what the hell for’, then i found myself so satisfied by that damn sliding and clicking sound. About to go order a pair now and oh yeah, new sub. Keep ot up bro.
There should be a second channel called “I love it, but...” so we know when something is unaffordable without watching
these are pretty affordable though comparing to stuff like the rogue dumbells
Simply assume the worst of everything
I have seriously been considering these. The only thing is trying to find weights period let alone the right ones!
bellsofsteel has plates in stock right now! Don’t sleep. I ordered a bunch today to go along with my PRX home gym setup. Got extra 10’s and 5’s for the dumbler!
@@iBamboozler I live in an area where people stole my mother's cancer medicine from my mail box. Do you think weights have a chance? My mother passed away from cancer.
@@YoKnow make signature required a condition of delivery when you order plates. Be kind of hard to steal something that needs to be delivered on a pallet. Best of luck to you man.
@@iBamboozler I eat once a day. I sleep on the floor. That pallet will be stolen just as fast. They will leave your car on milk crates asap!
That’s wicked! Ordering now!
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I just bought the Marcy dumbbell kit off Amazon. It's the cheapest set listed. My entire homestead gym is made up of the cheapest stuff that should get the job done. I'm looking forward to giving them a try today. I definitely agree that being able to use the same weights for my bench, lat pull down, easy bar and barbells is ideal for the home gym.
Buy once cry once
honestly, after watching the torq rope vid, I was expecting these to be more money lmao. pricey but not obscene tbh
I was thinking $200 for the pair.
@@craigman7262 At $200/pair, I'd jump at them, as is, I'm salivating, but hesitant to pull the trigger.
Just as a comparison, the iron master upgrade package from 75 lb to 120lb is $349. That’s after dropping $500 on the original set.
I love my iron masters but as I outgrow them options like the ones Coop showed today start to make a lot more sense to me.
The price is good for what you get the roque with the collars is about the same. But I would prefer a good one inch loadable dumbbell which makes much more sense for doing heavy presses and rows. And it does not have enough length on the sleeves.
I thought the built-in collar was a little extra on a barbell but, yeah, I could see that being nice on a dumbbell. Dumbbells get vertical way more often and the knurl is less of a big deal too.
Very satisfying "snick" sound. Great design IMO.
I’m glad I stumbled onto your videos. Thank you for your honest opinion and testing on products. The only problem I now have is my shopping list is just getting longer.
I have adjustable dumbbells up to 50lbs but for anything heavier an easy alternative is to loop a luggage tie down strap through weight plates and a steel cable handle, for each side, that works fine for things like incline bench, farmer's walks and military presses.
4:58 ''...let me have a try....''
would be heard randomly many times in the crowd if this review was live with us in your garage
I was so excited for these since I need to get some home gym equipment and waited for the pre-order page to launch. That was an ordeal in and of itself because the page didn't launch when expected. I loved the idea of them for all of the same reasons Coop does.
But after really thinking about it, my apartment living self would just be better off buying a set of bands, so that's exactly what I did.
I hate to cancel orders, but Gugnir was really great about it.
soon as you said i usually do this with a tricep kickback I had to give a thumbs-up. another great video coop! ;-D
Check out Bells of Steel db handles! Very nice and good price, couldnt wait for Titan's to come in and pre ordered BOS instead. Couldnt be happier
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These are expensive for what they are, but less expensive than many adjustable dumbbells, plus they will last forever, so I wouldn't call them unaffordable.
@@plmn93 400 dollars for a pair of LOADABLE, not adjustable, dumbbells. You can get the same thing effectively for 100 or less. You’re just paying 4x that for the built-in collar
Let’s fire up those algorithms 🚀
Good point about the weight being concentrated on your knee in some positions. It wouldn't have occurred to me.
I would think you could cut a disc out of paneling, cardboard, some type of rubber to put between your first and second plates to reduce the slop.
The sound of iron clanking is like music to my ears
price wise its.pretty.close to a pair of db15+oso collars with tax shipping etc which is what I did last year. Of course you need plates but those are relatively cheap, and it replaces an entire rack of regular dbs which are a lot more these days. Particularly with shipping, storage and the add on sets to reach the weights something like this will handle.
I would have like to see the fit on the gungnir with the rogue dumbell weight plates ,Coop.
You had me thinking that the loading part of the could extend longer for more space to load more plates lol dang it that would have been a really cool option
Gorgeous and thank you for the review Coop. I love that every piece of gear I think is cool you review.
The issue with dumbbell bench press and resting the dumbbells on the thigh is to rest the plate on the thigh and not the end of the dumbbell. If your dumbbells have collars with a tension bar then that needs to be on the outside when you pick up the dumbbells so that the weight doesn't come down and rest on the bar/thigh.
I need this in my life
Do a review on the BAADASS ADJUSTABLE DUMBBELLS
Price isn't an issue. Well engineered. You can use construction type knee pads for benching or a homemade velcro strap with a thick floor rubber pad.
Just added a (couple of washers) to possibly prevent the wiggle play of the plates.
It will with high use, hopefully you can slide a regular collar over the bar when that built in one disintegrates.
Hey Coop, you should review the loadable dumbbells from The Strength Co. I think they give Rouge Fitness a run for their money, their collars are pretty good too. However, you are the expert. I'd love to see a video on it.
Could you please share the end-to-end length of this dumbell bar? The mechanism is fantastic though has a list of negatives. It was very well explained too.
Funny, the ordinary spin lock has one advantage over these. Its easier to rest them on the legs for bench. With the spinlock, you can put a few washers or spacers on there so that the collar sits flush on the handle. Then you rest the collar on your legs.
The "side of the plates on the knees" thing works as a substitute but it a bit awkward.
I get it they cost a lot for loadable dumbells but it still is cheaper than getting a dumbell set. I’d definitely consider this option
Agreed
I'vr been waiting for this since the review of the their last product.
They should add a threaded collar to the inside of the dumbbell handle that can be used to take up slack in the plates and keep them from rattling.
Gungnir, if your watching please add a piece of rubber on to the inside end of the collar, the compression of the rubber can make up for the "slop" as garage gym reviews puts it, and it will dampen the noise so i wont wake up my kids. You can also make it thinner since its not holding nearly enough weight, and even possibly thinner groves to have a tighter fitment. have you thought about a one groove design? with half the weight being able to be put on the bar two notches going into two grooves is a bit overkill. i know this can affect manufacturing processes but if you dont do it someone else will
These look very good, the only reason I haven't bought loadable dumbbells for my home gym yet, is that I'm trying to be as space efficient as possible, so I was looking for an option that would allow me to do skullcrushers with them, this is definitely that!
The price is a bit steep (370 EUR with shipping to Germany), but once I've renovated the basement, I'll definitely take another look at these.
I'm pouring my own plates, so also that'll allow me to make plates at the exact thickness I need, and avoid the slop, although, with 108mm for concrete, I'll probably (obviously depending on what diameter I choose to go with) top out around 40kg on the handle, which is probably ok, but not great.
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Agree, it is pricey but unique and useful.
I was looking at these, and I see they sell their own plates. I hope the gap between the collars and plates are smaller, as the plates use din this video, would abs be a no go in terms of gap!
Cool. Maybe the company can provide metal spacers between the clip and plates to stop the wobble.
Coop, could you try and test Rogue DB25-10 loadable dumbbells and with the US OSU Aluminium collars? I'd very much like to see that combo and how well the collars does there.
Awesome DB handles !! (Costy)
Never understood 2 Things:
1) why doesnt 50 mm screwable handles exist ?
2) you should not put the bar on your leg ! Instead put 1/2 side of the plate on your leg! Way more comfortable. And not worse then a normal dB...
They do exist! Hard to find though. I've only seen them from an image search
@@matthewklan already searched ! But never found 50 mm versions of screwable handles, only the 30mm ones. ...
Damn I was getting real hyped for these til I saw the price. The biggest downsides in seeing is sleeve length, mild knurling, and the fact we’d all have to look for smaller plates.
It’s a lot easier on the wrists when the plates rotate also. On my fixed dbs at home I purposely loosen the bolts at the end to allow for rotation. Which is why Watson dbs are also the best.
I hate rotating handles on dumbbells, feels much less stable for pressing movements.
At the end of the video, it would have been good to actually measure up the maximum loadable sleeve length against the Rogue (+collar). Hard to see, but the Gungnir might come out as a smaller loadable length?
It is. Dumbler is 4.25” loadable length while Rogue DB-15 is 5.25” loadable if using a 1.5” collar like the Rogue aluminum ones
I just dropped 3K on dumbbells and I still might order these. Coop does a normal collar actually still clamp on these handles.
Hi - Yes, they do 😊
I agree with you Coop but then again.. Most things are outragously expensive in Norway..
Those are better than powerblocks...one of my nuo flexbells broke...so its now useless. Thank you very much Coop
How did it break?
Love your channel! Thanks!
Quantity has a quality all its own. Dumblers cost $400($399) for a pair, Rogues cost $250 a pair. These are both incredibly nice loadable dumbbells that should exceed anyone's needs and not significantly break down over time, I consider both handles equally perfect. So you're paying $150 for the built in clips on the Dumblers. Rogue OSO collars cost $40 a pair, so they make the Rogue set total $330. Assuming neither break are the Dumbler's worth $70 more than the Rogues+OSO collars?
If you are ok without Rogue's collars (and/or value money more) it's a much harder question. Metal clips are $5 a piece on Amazon so $400 Dumblers vs $270 Rogues+metal clips. Would you pay $130 more for the Dumblers? Metal clips aren't perfect, although they're good enough for dumbell weights and exercises in my opinion, but you could buy 26 more of them before you equal the Dumblers for price.
Dang, doing the math makes me wish I could've gotten the Dumblers instead of Rogue's+collars 3 years ago. Especially since I don't like the Rogue OSO collars and the Dumblers look so convenient. My #1 concern was longevity, but the amount of abuse shown in this review (and my low weights) puts that to rest.
If Garage Gym Reviews could hook us up with a discount, and a corresponding affiliate bonus for himself, I would be extremely tempted to make the effort to sell my Rogue's and upgrade. Or more realistically just buy the Dumblers, keep saying I intend to sell the Rogue's, and do all the insane 4 loadable dumbell super sets I can imagine.
I’m already ready to be disappointed when he says the price. Haha.
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@@harmanrandhawa3191 .... The key to the Gungnir dumbbell handles has to do with the built in collar. The majority of collars will slip off. Unless the "Fat Chubby Dumbbell Handles" (that UA-cam link) has non-slip collars, then you can’t really compare the two. The only other real comparison to the Gungnir are the Muscle Motion Spinlocks: gymdirect.com.au/products/spin-lock-olympic-dumbbell-han
$399.99
If you put a 1/4" foam rubber washer on the inside of the handle in front of the plates, it would compress when you put the collar on and take up all of that slack.
I usually make fun of most adjustable dumbbells, but damn that thing is cool.
As for the clunking of the iron, I actually like the sound, which is saying something, as I'm rather compulsive about noise. But that sound is just quintessential weightlifting to me.
Intro was very nice!
I'm heading to Norway soon, but even if these were out it would probably still be cheaper to ship them due to the VAT.
They have a one inch bar. Would prefer to see a standard weight plate adjustable dumbbell. I was really excited when coop said dumbbells were in the works. Wish they’d have started with the smaller bars vs. Olympic. The plates are easier to use around your head. I’m not even that strong yet so a big fat dumbbell is kinda overkill. Also I would LOVE to see how easy and fast Ironmaster plates could be interchanged on a standard size gungnir bar.
Can’t wait for Titan to copy this so I can buy it
Have the my done it yet
Just got the Fringe Sport loadable DB pair, and they’re solid. This looks like a premium product, but I wonder how much of the price is Gungnar knowing the gym equipment market is crazy right now?
That intro 😂 What are you doing Step-Garage Gym Reviewer?!
Got these for my Rogue office gym. Ooolalah
I love these, wish they would've made the lock slightly smaller though, so that the overall length of the dumbbells could just be a couple of centimeters smaller, but overall it's great.
Please do a review of NordicTrack. It's special. It has macro weight adjustment and micro weight adjustment with four smaller plates (two on each side) that add 2.5 or 5 pounds.
Honestly, if I would not be a student... I'd buy that in a heartbeat
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Why would you set the ends on your knees? I always set the plate edges on my knees; way more comfortable.
Personally I started with standard weight plates, so when I do upgrade to Olympic, unless I need to trade or sell my standards to buy olympics, I’m keeping the standards for dumbbells and curl bars (up to 200 lbs should be plenty for all my lifts short of large compound lifts) realistically, it feels like unless you already have a good Olympic weight plate set, Olympic loadable dumbbells seem clunky and awkward, plus with standard bars, threaded collars are very common and fantastic. That said, I’m also looking to add some non adjustable dumbbells for quality of life only... I can do 95% of anything I think of with mine and loadable dumbbells are always my suggestion for what to start with... with standard plates, a straight bar, curl bar, 4 dumbbells, adjustable bench, a few bands, a plate loaded lat pull down machine, and a jump rope, you literally have a full gym you can do anything short of heavy compound lifts, which while nice, are NOT required to get in shape or build your body!!
Also, loading the dumbbell with more smaller plates, helps you feel better when you put it on your leg...
This is a funky mechanism. It moves and with heavy weight it can get you off balance so it is not safe at all !!!!
Dang man, I go 200lb and loadable dumbbells for $130. Keep in mind it was pre COVID. I don’t know if I could spend that much on one piece of equipment when I could by a reverse hyper for that amount. But they are really cool.
To take the slop out try using rubber o-rings.