Despite watching dozens of UA-cam postings on shooting form, I had NEVER heard/seen the advice on relaxing the bow arm a bit to lower the shoulder and minimize (or eliminate) the string's hitting the forearm. I thought I was SUPPOSED to lock my bow arm! Thanks, as always, Steven. Chris (Maine, USA)
Thanks for sharing. We’ve all done it wrong at some time. It’s great to have passionate people in the industry to help beginners learn and enjoy the sport. 👌
Can we have the girl in the white top back as a regular please Steve?, maybe she could hold your arrows like a caddie maybe?, or give a weather report at the end of every clip, something, anything?.
There was a noob at the range who was trying out one of his buddies compounds. His "buddies" were laughing at him, as he came over to us, showed us the welt on his arm, and asked he he was going to be ok. It was scary looking. An inch or two high and blue. I wouldn't have thought you could even do that. It looked bad.
Haven’t been shooting for awhile. Picked up my bow and first shot wrist slap. Second and third the same. I used to shot a ton crazy to loose a muscle memory like that.
I'm sure if you shoot correctly there is never a need to wear an arm guard. i've never worn one for a recurve or a compound. I have though, when i was a beginner, whacked my arm but i soon learnt the right way to avoid such issues as i did not enjoy the "sting of the string".
I did it wrong once & yes I have double jointed elbows. But during that period I shot alot & won a couple of indoor winter target trophies. Shooting a recurve instinctively while haven't an open picture window with the bent elbow helped. By helped , I mean holding your bow with the right lifeline position with the bent elbow. Virtually impossible to hit your arm in this scenario. I also never shot a peep with a compound. I basically had the same anchor & my cables & strings were always lined up with my riser. If u can do that u just set your sight out to the left. With an open sight view it allows me to pick a very small mark on the target & if I miss it's usually by a small margin, like hitting a baseball when your mark is the size of a silver dollar. Everyone should learn to have a a shot progression when starting b4 releasing an arrow. Important to start with a clean slate. 🎉
Great advice Steven "although" (Sorry about this) maybe her draw length was to "long" which caused her bow arm to go Completely straight so she could pull back to the wall because the draw was to long. An shorter draw length tends to aid in an slight bend in bow arm, Just an thought 🤔.
1:11 Bow and Arrow Or Gun, This remains the same. Trigger discipline. 2:58 Too Many want to "lock it" or push out like you say. "Relaxed" may be a mixed bag as far as a term goes. You dont want it locked but not relaxed you want to find that happy medium that is Comfortable and Repeatable. Leaning back / drawing upward is usually an indicator of a bow having more weight than she should be pulling. Not physical weight but draw weight, Stabilizer bars/ weights and such is another story. Not only is it bad for the archer, but can be dangerous if you have bad trigger discipline like she clearly does... and launch an arrow at a 45 degree angle...
Can you please give me the specs on the Fivics Tital EX bow you are using? if you have a review on it done already guid me to it would you please? it looks interesting bow i like it i would like to find out more about it i am looking for a recurve bow
When you do hit your forearm assume you busted a vein and hold pressure over the area (at least 5 minutes, maybe longer). Apply a baggy of ice if available. Don't just sit there like a noob and watch a hematoma appear and get bigger.
Now those world champions who lean back. That is not because of the weight. It is because their draw length is way too long. And EVERYONE, no matter the style of release, wrist type of a finger release, FIND A SOLID ANCHOR. With a three finger release, I jam the knuckles of my hand behind my jaw bone. Bone on bone anchor is the best anchor you can have. I anchor in the Sam replace with a wrist release. The knuckle of my index finger is jammed into that same jaw bone while my thumb is running under my jaw and up against it as well leaving my trigger finger free to so it’s job. The hand floating on the side of the face, that is no anchor at all. Throw away kisser buttons and nose buttons. Find that solid anchor, and all you need to alignment is your peep and the pin you are staring at. So now you have bone in bone anchor #1, peep #2, and sight pin #3. Too many anchoring points and it’s just too much.
Draw length is definitely to short. I know this from experience. I started out with a 28.5" wacked the crap out of my arm for weeks. Thought I was going to have a purple forearm permanently. Shortened my draw length down to 27.5 and bought an arm guard. No help. My actual draw length is 29.5. It come down to how you are taught or in my case hours of UA-cam😂.
You lean back too much when you shoot. Look back at the video. You were NOT straight up and down. Those pictures you were showing of so called pros, they all leaned back. Poor form. Sorry, but we learned way better over here across the pond. You are giving and showing many bad habits yourself.
I am just a minute or so in and disagree with some of what you are trying to teach others. To be honest, I watch your videos all the time and I see how your shoot. In America, you would not even make a state champion, but in your country you are a national champion archer? Way different over here with many folks that know way more about it than you. That girls draw length is way too long. The way to know is she is leaning back. Or it is just really poor form. Maybe the bow is right but she leans back which locks the arm at full length and this is why she is hitting her arm. So many use a release wrong. The only time my finger is not on the trigger is while I am drawing it back. Once back the finger goes on the trigger, I get settled in and then I squeeze very slowly until it goes off. Doing it like you are suggesting will cause another bad habit of snap shooting, also known as target panic. I will be posting more when I know you are telling everyone something wrong. That now arm should not be locked, but should be bent. This is how you stop from hitting your arm. This also forces you to push forward towards your target and not locked in and floating all around it. Push and pull. Wear a sling and get those fingers off the front of the bow. Relax every muscle you can.
Despite watching dozens of UA-cam postings on shooting form, I had NEVER heard/seen the advice on relaxing the bow arm a bit to lower the shoulder and minimize (or eliminate) the string's hitting the forearm. I thought I was SUPPOSED to lock my bow arm! Thanks, as always, Steven. Chris (Maine, USA)
Thanks for sharing. We’ve all done it wrong at some time. It’s great to have passionate people in the industry to help beginners learn and enjoy the sport. 👌
Can we have the girl in the white top back as a regular please Steve?, maybe she could hold your arrows like a caddie maybe?, or give a weather report at the end of every clip, something, anything?.
I have that same elbow pain from shooting and you’re right I drive that arm straight out. I appreciate the tip!
The views on this video might create an internet black hole of density😂. Let’s give all the praise to the surgeon.
I have to admit the thumbnail made me watch this video but I'm glad I clicked on it. Awesome video and thank you for the valuable information. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
good info. would love to get lessons but it is not an option here so i have to pick up and sift thru tips as i can.
another great video. thank you.
There was a noob at the range who was trying out one of his buddies compounds.
His "buddies" were laughing at him, as he came over to us, showed us the welt on his arm, and asked he he was going to be ok. It was scary looking. An inch or two high and blue. I wouldn't have thought you could even do that. It looked bad.
I don't think this clip was intended to have anything to do with archery.
I totally agree
Why bees sometimes hive underground
Temp is more constant
Does your house have insulation
Haven’t been shooting for awhile. Picked up my bow and first shot wrist slap. Second and third the same. I used to shot a ton crazy to loose a muscle memory like that.
I'm sure if you shoot correctly there is never a need to wear an arm guard. i've never worn one for a recurve or a compound. I have though, when i was a beginner, whacked my arm but i soon learnt the right way to avoid such issues as i did not enjoy the "sting of the string".
I've watched a dozen times and still can't see what her problem is
Can we assume that the instructor was possibly distracted,? Maybe his attention was “elsewhere” so to speak.
I did it wrong once & yes I have double jointed elbows. But during that period I shot alot & won a couple of indoor winter target trophies. Shooting a recurve instinctively while haven't an open picture window with the bent elbow helped. By helped , I mean holding your bow with the right lifeline position with the bent elbow. Virtually impossible to hit your arm in this scenario. I also never shot a peep with a compound. I basically had the same anchor & my cables & strings were always lined up with my riser. If u can do that u just set your sight out to the left. With an open sight view it allows me to pick a very small mark on the target & if I miss it's usually by a small margin, like hitting a baseball when your mark is the size of a silver dollar. Everyone should learn to have a a shot progression when starting b4 releasing an arrow. Important to start with a clean slate. 🎉
Great advice Steven "although" (Sorry about this) maybe her draw length was to "long" which caused her bow arm to go Completely straight so she could pull back to the wall because the draw was to long. An shorter draw length tends to aid in an slight bend in bow arm, Just an thought 🤔.
1:11 Bow and Arrow Or Gun, This remains the same. Trigger discipline.
2:58 Too Many want to "lock it" or push out like you say. "Relaxed" may be a mixed bag as far as a term goes. You dont want it locked but not relaxed you want to find that happy medium that is Comfortable and Repeatable.
Leaning back / drawing upward is usually an indicator of a bow having more weight than she should be pulling. Not physical weight but draw weight, Stabilizer bars/ weights and such is another story. Not only is it bad for the archer, but can be dangerous if you have bad trigger discipline like she clearly does... and launch an arrow at a 45 degree angle...
Can you please give me the specs on the Fivics Tital EX bow you are using? if you have a review on it done already guid me to it would you please? it looks interesting bow i like it i would like to find out more about it i am looking for a recurve bow
Tuned to perfection.
I agree! Lets have another look at where her elbow's pointing ...
And lets also stress how hard it is.
Crickey, that is one Spunky Sheila!
Let me get this straight...are you saying there is something wrong with her form? I would have to disagree !!
So true mate.
She's holding a bow?
Is there a bow?
When you do hit your forearm assume you busted a vein and hold pressure over the area (at least 5 minutes, maybe longer). Apply a baggy of ice if available. Don't just sit there like a noob and watch a hematoma appear and
get bigger.
Why am I staring at something else ...
Looks like good form to me...
Id love to teach her Steve.
😊
I stopped wearing an arm guard 5 years ago - it’s all about alignment…
Who actually watched that shot 😂
lets be honest. our attention wasnt on her shooting
Was there an elbow must have missed that
I have an EVO NXT 35 , little heavy !
you picked the right subject to study, let me study...
Lmao it's gonna be the most viewed video in the channel in a month at this rate
Now those world champions who lean back. That is not because of the weight. It is because their draw length is way too long. And EVERYONE, no matter the style of release, wrist type of a finger release, FIND A SOLID ANCHOR. With a three finger release, I jam the knuckles of my hand behind my jaw bone. Bone on bone anchor is the best anchor you can have. I anchor in the Sam replace with a wrist release. The knuckle of my index finger is jammed into that same jaw bone while my thumb is running under my jaw and up against it as well leaving my trigger finger free to so it’s job. The hand floating on the side of the face, that is no anchor at all. Throw away kisser buttons and nose buttons. Find that solid anchor, and all you need to alignment is your peep and the pin you are staring at. So now you have bone in bone anchor #1, peep #2, and sight pin #3. Too many anchoring points and it’s just too much.
It's not all bad form
Draw length is definitely to short. I know this from experience. I started out with a 28.5" wacked the crap out of my arm for weeks. Thought I was going to have a purple forearm permanently. Shortened my draw length down to 27.5 and bought an arm guard. No help. My actual draw length is 29.5. It come down to how you are taught or in my case hours of UA-cam😂.
Oh boy the comments...
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*right hand side of the grip
(I'm left handed lol)
Sorry Steve.
Is she holding a bow?
What cant think all my blood has rushed into another part of my body.
She needs to be a regular on the channel :-)
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Is your broken lifeline comment relevant to your heart attack?
Man, it''s hard to concentrate on what you're saying, too much distraction from that fine lady with a bow.
What is your address …I would like to move next door ….😊
😄 2 things:
12) -glad my life line doesn't dictate my existence
2) she never intended for you to care about her shooting ability
😉
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Girls aren't supposed to be hunting anyways. They should be home waiting for the meat to show up so she can cook it. ;)
You lean back too much when you shoot. Look back at the video. You were NOT straight up and down. Those pictures you were showing of so called pros, they all leaned back. Poor form. Sorry, but we learned way better over here across the pond. You are giving and showing many bad habits yourself.
Cheeky click bait Steven :p
I am just a minute or so in and disagree with some of what you are trying to teach others. To be honest, I watch your videos all the time and I see how your shoot. In America, you would not even make a state champion, but in your country you are a national champion archer? Way different over here with many folks that know way more about it than you.
That girls draw length is way too long. The way to know is she is leaning back. Or it is just really poor form. Maybe the bow is right but she leans back which locks the arm at full length and this is why she is hitting her arm.
So many use a release wrong. The only time my finger is not on the trigger is while I am drawing it back. Once back the finger goes on the trigger, I get settled in and then I squeeze very slowly until it goes off. Doing it like you are suggesting will cause another bad habit of snap shooting, also known as target panic. I will be posting more when I know you are telling everyone something wrong. That now arm should not be locked, but should be bent. This is how you stop from hitting your arm. This also forces you to push forward towards your target and not locked in and floating all around it. Push and pull. Wear a sling and get those fingers off the front of the bow. Relax every muscle you can.
You sounded like you knew what you where talking about until the last paragraph….. unfortunate.