This is quite funny; the posts have a euro-style Mennekes level 2 connector, because over there the charging system operates on the assumption that the car _comes with_ a cable already and all the stations are designed with receptacles and no loose cables. You plug your _own_ cable into the station and bring it with you when you're done, which means you're invested in keeping the cable in good condition and never have to worry about pulling up to a station with a broken/missing/stolen/frayed cable. For whatever reason, in North America we instead expect the cable to be attached to the charger rather than coming along with the vehicle, which makes deploying curbside charging a lot more complicated because you need to deal with the bulk and maintenance of a cable. This company has simply imported the euro charging posts and provides the customers with a cable that adapts the euro-style connector to our North American level 2 plug (J1772). This works fine and totally solves the problem, and just highlights the absurdity of the normal North American design.
The EU “bring your own cable” style for level 1 and 2 EV charging is what we should be implementing in North America. It is more efficient and cost effective as there is no cable to need changed due to damage.
New York has kind of pathetic ev incentives that don't even cover the vehicle sales tax and fees for vehicles most people want, not chevy bolt fire hazards. This solution is going to make people even more angry about parking.
Teslas are the largest ev fire hazards. Documented facts show that. The taxes should be higher for EV to help offset the loss of gas tax that go to help with road repair. As crappy as the roads are they'd be a lot worse without the tax, and you know ev drivers will bitch about he road conditions.
Since it only uses the 220/240V, I’d assume it can only do slow charge. It is probably good enough for residents, but I bet uber drivers definitely don’t want to wait on it.
Because North American designs/standards call for a captive cable permanently attached to the station, which is basically a non-starter for curb-side deployment for a bunch of reasons. Simpler to just import ready-made european posts and provide a cable that adapts between the two plug types to the customers, rather than design custom posts just for this deployment.
@@siberx4 You really only need a 240V 50A NEMA 14-50 receptacle, as many EVs have mobile chargers for home charging. That's the same thing that RVs use at camp sites, too. Car owners would still bring their own cable, so the decision to use the EU plug still seems odd.
Cables will be stolen by the millions. People will trip on the cords that aren't stolen. Pedestrian space is at a minimum in large cities, these take up more space. Maybe someone should make a curb level charge device that mounds in ground and attaches to the bottom of the car when signaled to for recharging it ? Pull up, tap your app, and a connector rises up next to the curb and connects to the lower rocker panel of your car and charges away. Now, someone go make it and claim it was your idea.
Power grid can't handle EV adoption. They're an expensive toy for people that want to feel they are 'helping' or are 'in on the ground floor'. Not to mention if the battery catches fire, there's no way to put it out feasibly.
Are you living in 2010? EVs are more mainstream now than ever before. Millions of Americans own them, and the grid can certainly handle them, there's data on that.
Ask any firefighter how an EV fire goes. Do any basic research into what goes into running the electrical grid. This is without mentioning how anti-consumer these cars are built: parts that could be made separately for ease of repair aren't and cost a fortune to acquire. Only rich people can afford to wait months to get repairs done on a car.
This is quite funny; the posts have a euro-style Mennekes level 2 connector, because over there the charging system operates on the assumption that the car _comes with_ a cable already and all the stations are designed with receptacles and no loose cables. You plug your _own_ cable into the station and bring it with you when you're done, which means you're invested in keeping the cable in good condition and never have to worry about pulling up to a station with a broken/missing/stolen/frayed cable.
For whatever reason, in North America we instead expect the cable to be attached to the charger rather than coming along with the vehicle, which makes deploying curbside charging a lot more complicated because you need to deal with the bulk and maintenance of a cable.
This company has simply imported the euro charging posts and provides the customers with a cable that adapts the euro-style connector to our North American level 2 plug (J1772). This works fine and totally solves the problem, and just highlights the absurdity of the normal North American design.
The EU “bring your own cable” style for level 1 and 2 EV charging is what we should be implementing in North America.
It is more efficient and cost effective as there is no cable to need changed due to damage.
We are talking about a city that discovered wheelie bins only recently.
More charging ports is always a good idea. Especially in big cities.
Lower power but more outlets... that's the best solution. Great!!
@@jfjoubertquebec no, no, not at all
@@akaroth7542 haha
its better than nothing
Awesome 👏👏 I expect your company and plan grows nationwide, that be nice to see that EV infrastructure installed in Central Florida soon 👍👍😎😎
New York has kind of pathetic ev incentives that don't even cover the vehicle sales tax and fees for vehicles most people want, not chevy bolt fire hazards.
This solution is going to make people even more angry about parking.
Teslas are the largest ev fire hazards. Documented facts show that.
The taxes should be higher for EV to help offset the loss of gas tax that go to help with road repair. As crappy as the roads are they'd be a lot worse without the tax, and you know ev drivers will bitch about he road conditions.
@@damham5689 you add that tax AFTER EV is the main kind of transport, or at least is as cheap or cheaper than gas.
Since it only uses the 220/240V, I’d assume it can only do slow charge. It is probably good enough for residents, but I bet uber drivers definitely don’t want to wait on it.
Great idea..
Electric car market is dead, this company will be bankrupt in a year
Just make vacant lots parking spots
What about all the gangs, punks, and haters that will mess with the charging ports or cables while you sleep?🤷🏼♂️
You can use this excuse to not do anything new ever.
locking plugs, alarms, etc.. People will come up with solutions once problems are widespread enough to make fixing it profitable.
Sorry, Boy! is THIS important right now 🙄 After the Election!!!!
Why do the posts have the European plug
Because North American designs/standards call for a captive cable permanently attached to the station, which is basically a non-starter for curb-side deployment for a bunch of reasons. Simpler to just import ready-made european posts and provide a cable that adapts between the two plug types to the customers, rather than design custom posts just for this deployment.
@@siberx4 You really only need a 240V 50A NEMA 14-50 receptacle, as many EVs have mobile chargers for home charging. That's the same thing that RVs use at camp sites, too. Car owners would still bring their own cable, so the decision to use the EU plug still seems odd.
Cables will be stolen by the millions. People will trip on the cords that aren't stolen. Pedestrian space is at a minimum in large cities, these take up more space. Maybe someone should make a curb level charge device that mounds in ground and attaches to the bottom of the car when signaled to for recharging it ? Pull up, tap your app, and a connector rises up next to the curb and connects to the lower rocker panel of your car and charges away. Now, someone go make it and claim it was your idea.
Tesla is adding inductive charging and automatic positioning, so future vehicles could certainly do that.
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Street parking in cities will charge wirelessly not by plug.
Power grid can't handle EV adoption. They're an expensive toy for people that want to feel they are 'helping' or are 'in on the ground floor'. Not to mention if the battery catches fire, there's no way to put it out feasibly.
Actually no, not at all.
Are you living in 2010? EVs are more mainstream now than ever before. Millions of Americans own them, and the grid can certainly handle them, there's data on that.
Yes, you are exactly right. Except not in any way.
*this comment has been paid for by the gasoline industry.
Ask any firefighter how an EV fire goes. Do any basic research into what goes into running the electrical grid.
This is without mentioning how anti-consumer these cars are built: parts that could be made separately for ease of repair aren't and cost a fortune to acquire.
Only rich people can afford to wait months to get repairs done on a car.
Tulsi Gabbard?
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