The problem with these forms is the desync between how they are described and how they are executed in the various yt videos. Almost all those forms are meant to be employed against a spear/pike. They tend to consist of three elements: provoke, deflect, attack. The Chinese sources stress how absolutely rapid and brutal the attack was. It wasn't a fluid dance, but a very energetic jump. The treatises describe the Japanese pirates covering 5m of ground almost in an instant. To do this you can't rely on a fluid, leisurely flow, it has to be executed as two separate parts. You adopt a stance of provocation, often meant to convey helplesness. You brutally bat the incoming spear attack aside. Before the attacker can recover, you jump in, as fast as you can, and deliver a powerful, braced, two handed cut that will instantly incapacitate the opponent
If you want to move fast you must learn to move corectly first I don't think anyone believes this to be the proper speed for real life application but we also have guns so ya.
@@justdoinmything They actually had guns too - early ones, the muskets. This was the backup weapon for the musketeers and crossbowmen; when the enemy got too close to reload in time.
Where do you think Japanese copied their weapons from? The Japanese military force were still equipped with Chinese Han style ring-head blades in the Battle of Baekgang (663CE), and this type of two-hand blade were already a common thing in China at that time...
It is kind of a parallel development. You should see Scholagladiatoria's review to see the details of construction and get a bit of the historical context of this beautiful blade
@@Vostadues bro, I am also Chinese, but im not insecure enough in my ethnicity to blatantly put down another culture just to feel better about myself. The Japanese copied the Chinese designs from the Tang dynasty, and the resulting blades were improved upon and modified. Later on, the Chinese had several run-ins with this type of blade wielded by Japanese adversaries and were impressed with the design. China started importing many of these blades from Japan to fill their armories. Eventually, they started producing changdao like the one in this video domestically with better steel. People from the period call these "Japanese style swords," and several of the treatises on this weapon mention a few Japanese techniques. These swords are the result of development in both china and japan and have a Chinese-inspired Japanese-style blade profile and Chinese-style construction.
@@efafe4972 Learn your history, everything I said were based on excavtion of ancient battle site, if you don't like the historical fact, you need to find a time machine and go change it yourself. Your "import weapon" event happens after Chinese dynasty ditched the older generation weapon designs (you do still remember that each new dynasty ditches the weapon and armor designs from the previous dynasty, right?), especially when there are nomadic lead dynasties stuck in between the lines, that is when the model of weapons becomes imported good.
@@Vostadues you need to learn how to read English because you don't seem to understand what we are even arguing about. Let me summarize for you. Use google translate or something so you understand what is being said. You claim that this changdao was already a thing during the tang so that you could feel better about yourself as a Chinese person. The original commentator said that this sword resembles the nodachi. this is true because this sword design was influenced by encounters with swords like the nodachi. You replied that the Chinese already had this sword during the Tang, and the Japanese copied this. I was correcting you with historical facts corroborated by textual and archeological evidence in both japan and china in official import records and written accounts from the Ming. As I said in my original comment, the tang style dao was copied and improved upon by the Japanese to create swords like the tachi and nodachi which were encountered by the Chinese during the Ming. These swords have a different blade profile and construction from the tang dao. the Chinese were impressed by these swords and started domestically producing them with their own sandwiched differentially hardened steel. They also imported some tachi and nodachi blades from japan to be assembled in the Chinese style. These swords, like the one in this video, produced in Japan or China are often referred to as Japanese-style swords in China during that period, and the dandao faxuan even mentions specific techniques using this weapon that are Japanese techniques. Several masters in china trained with Japanese dandao or tachi masters as well.. All of this points to the fact that the tang dao was copied by the Japanese, improved upon for a few centuries before coming back to influence Chinese dao design during the ming. Tang dao are straight edged and use the hundred steel technique of layered steel. Ming chang dao are curved often made with sand witched differentially hardened steel which gives the ming swords a harder edge and better cutting performance. Both swords are great, but there is no need to act like Japanese swords had 0 influence on Chinese swords during the Ming and were just a direct copy of an old design so that you can feel good about your ethnicity.
@@camrendavis6650i’m talking about this specific sword they literally took nodachi from pirates they killed and re purposed them. obviously they’ve been making swords longer and have a massive variety just THIS specific sword was a variant from a nodachi. that’s all
The problem with these forms is the desync between how they are described and how they are executed in the various yt videos. Almost all those forms are meant to be employed against a spear/pike. They tend to consist of three elements: provoke, deflect, attack. The Chinese sources stress how absolutely rapid and brutal the attack was. It wasn't a fluid dance, but a very energetic jump. The treatises describe the Japanese pirates covering 5m of ground almost in an instant. To do this you can't rely on a fluid, leisurely flow, it has to be executed as two separate parts. You adopt a stance of provocation, often meant to convey helplesness. You brutally bat the incoming spear attack aside. Before the attacker can recover, you jump in, as fast as you can, and deliver a powerful, braced, two handed cut that will instantly incapacitate the opponent
A man of culture, I see
If you want to move fast you must learn to move corectly first
I don't think anyone believes this to be the proper speed for real life application but we also have guns so ya.
@@justdoinmything They actually had guns too - early ones, the muskets. This was the backup weapon for the musketeers and crossbowmen; when the enemy got too close to reload in time.
Stuff
Huzaaah!
Excellent showcase with the treatise illustrations! This is how it should be done!
这是正宗的中国双手长刀刀法，这位大叔的功夫真的是太棒了。
Hmm the motions are similar to how nodachi and greatswords were used.
Awesome. Chang dao is big stuff. Big stuff daikatana.
can't wait to see more! Will there be a full length review video?
Excellent 👍🏻
phenomenal
He looks like European descendant
Very great!
Is it comparable to Odachi?
How does this feel compared to the miao dao?
Why does this feel like the tutorial of a fighting game?
I want this sword
amazing
Wow 💯💯very nice💯👍
🔥🔥🔥👊😠👊🔥🔥🔥
Chinese Odachi
Looks like the Japanese nodachi
Where do you think Japanese copied their weapons from?
The Japanese military force were still equipped with Chinese Han style ring-head blades in the Battle of Baekgang (663CE), and this type of two-hand blade were already a common thing in China at that time...
It is kind of a parallel development. You should see Scholagladiatoria's review to see the details of construction and get a bit of the historical context of this beautiful blade
@@Vostadues bro, I am also Chinese, but im not insecure enough in my ethnicity to blatantly put down another culture just to feel better about myself. The Japanese copied the Chinese designs from the Tang dynasty, and the resulting blades were improved upon and modified. Later on, the Chinese had several run-ins with this type of blade wielded by Japanese adversaries and were impressed with the design. China started importing many of these blades from Japan to fill their armories. Eventually, they started producing changdao like the one in this video domestically with better steel. People from the period call these "Japanese style swords," and several of the treatises on this weapon mention a few Japanese techniques. These swords are the result of development in both china and japan and have a Chinese-inspired Japanese-style blade profile and Chinese-style construction.
@@efafe4972 Learn your history, everything I said were based on excavtion of ancient battle site, if you don't like the historical fact, you need to find a time machine and go change it yourself.
Your "import weapon" event happens after Chinese dynasty ditched the older generation weapon designs (you do still remember that each new dynasty ditches the weapon and armor designs from the previous dynasty, right?), especially when there are nomadic lead dynasties stuck in between the lines, that is when the model of weapons becomes imported good.
@@Vostadues you need to learn how to read English because you don't seem to understand what we are even arguing about. Let me summarize for you. Use google translate or something so you understand what is being said. You claim that this changdao was already a thing during the tang so that you could feel better about yourself as a Chinese person. The original commentator said that this sword resembles the nodachi. this is true because this sword design was influenced by encounters with swords like the nodachi. You replied that the Chinese already had this sword during the Tang, and the Japanese copied this. I was correcting you with historical facts corroborated by textual and archeological evidence in both japan and china in official import records and written accounts from the Ming. As I said in my original comment, the tang style dao was copied and improved upon by the Japanese to create swords like the tachi and nodachi which were encountered by the Chinese during the Ming. These swords have a different blade profile and construction from the tang dao. the Chinese were impressed by these swords and started domestically producing them with their own sandwiched differentially hardened steel. They also imported some tachi and nodachi blades from japan to be assembled in the Chinese style. These swords, like the one in this video, produced in Japan or China are often referred to as Japanese-style swords in China during that period, and the dandao faxuan even mentions specific techniques using this weapon that are Japanese techniques. Several masters in china trained with Japanese dandao or tachi masters as well.. All of this points to the fact that the tang dao was copied by the Japanese, improved upon for a few centuries before coming back to influence Chinese dao design during the ming. Tang dao are straight edged and use the hundred steel technique of layered steel. Ming chang dao are curved often made with sand witched differentially hardened steel which gives the ming swords a harder edge and better cutting performance. Both swords are great, but there is no need to act like Japanese swords had 0 influence on Chinese swords during the Ming and were just a direct copy of an old design so that you can feel good about your ethnicity.
Chinese were the ones who invented anime swords 😂 Look at the size of that thang. They must've used them longswords to cleave horses or smth.
they got the idea from japanese pirates who used odachi haha
@@TONEDEAFSOUNDthis is not true. The Chinese were making giant swords since the iron age, LK Chen even sells them.
This is a changdao used against spears but there was a zhanmadao that came earlier that was indeed used for horses.
@@camrendavis6650i’m talking about this specific sword they literally took nodachi from pirates they killed and re purposed them. obviously they’ve been making swords longer and have a massive variety
just THIS specific sword was a variant from a nodachi. that’s all
how do you wear the sword around the belt without it falling?
Too many tacos.
You don’t