Finally, somebody does a video on the 6800. literally no one at CEDIA with a big UA-cam channel is talking about the AVR X6800H. I feel like all I heard about was the MarVR gen 2, it’s like all of these other home theater channels have turned into Shane Lee and don’t talk about products that I might actually buy.
There was no Information, that the 6800 was shown in a separate room outside the Show. Also our german masimo Team didn't know this. Bad communication by masimo.
When the 6700 came out in 2020 it was listed for $2500.USD,as more people was staying home Denon raised the price to $2900.USD.Thankfully you nowcan get the 6700 for $2000. The 6800 is listed for $3500.USD why has Denon raised the price on a 11.4 AVR and why itis that we can't get the Silver finish of these Denon AVRs here in the USA.
Once/if ART is available, I’ll likely get this over the Marantz AV10 based on price. I’ve had Dirac and Audyssey MQX. I like MQX vs Dirac Live but ART is another level
kinda dissapointed you didn't ask for the specifications on the DAC chip. Hopefully it had a Sabre DAC like his big brother. but it probably has the same TI dac found in the lower models
Are you seeing any issues with eARC audio dropouts or the video out just stopping until a power cycle? I already tried a good quality HDMI 2.1 cable at half the length and no change. Mine has been worse since the factory reset. It was only doing it when changing inputs like three times but a few times (like every evening) now just watching a show on the Apple TV and the video will just cut out. I have to power the AVR off and then it is good for a time. The eARC audio dropout is easy to check but with the dead video out put, it could be days with no issue. They want to point to the cables and then the TV but come on, I can re-connect the X6500H and both issues that I never had before are gone. Seems like their new all HDMI 2.1 board has issues but I thought it was the same board used in some of the other Denon AVRs from the last year. They are now wanting me to send it in for service. :( Adding to the frustration, I've got the Dirac license that needs to be returned by February 11th. I still can't get them to tell me if I can use it before getting a refund or not. I got the license, mic and the stand and do not want to be stuck with them.
Glad you asked about Dirac ART/Bass Control potential upgrades. Im on the fence with the AV10 and wanted confirmation its coming...sadly it doesnt seem like its a done deal that it will be added.
I did read somewhere that it was leaked. Denon has been beta testing dirac art firmware upgrade. They can't say anything concrete until October when Storm Audio's exclusive use of art has ended.
@@michaeloconnor9465 oooh that’s nice and spicy! Would be great to see older models get a boost. Would inspire allot of confidence in the brand, and reduce Fomo anxiety around waiting for the next feature.
I've been waiting for this and will buy this. one complaint: I like to listen to music over HDMI while watching football. currently there are workarounds to do this, but why can't we select audio from one HDMI source and video from another?
I am glad to see the X6800H will get Dirac art. My only grip is when you move into this price category, shouldn't we have upgraded Dac chips over and above the cheaper models. Sony 360 audio, to use you have to plug a different device in like Apple TV or Chrome. Why won't it work from your blu ray player or sat tv box. That part seemed a bit confusing.
The supposed lack of upgraded DAC's for the increased price, if true, is disappointing. Denon/Marantz REALLY downgraded the DAC's in these things to practically bargain basement models when they moved away from AKM chips. Even though AKM is out with improved DAC's.
@@dan_hitchman007 I always notice Audioholics are very silent on these posts and seem to be in love with anything Denon and Marantz do. No little Audioholics love icon on any critical posts.
It's Finally Here ( 6800!) I was Really Wondering If They Was Going Make A 6800 @ All For A Minute! Hey Gene, Is It Ideal To Connect All My Devices To My Avr Or TV These Days??? I'm Talking Avr's Like This 1 And The Latest TV's 📺 , Like The Samsung S95C The Sony A95L And Or LG G3 Ect.Ect???
I bought the 6700h in Jan this year returned it it had a heating problem and can cook and egg.. Purchased the 6800H on 2/6 from Bestbuy..it works great with my 9.2 Klipsch speaker system and my Sony 85 950G.. Hope it last.. 😊😊😊
Ok so is the Sony 360 reality audio (which is I’m assuming is just for music) not the same as 360 spatial sound mapping (which creates an immersive sound field for movies) in the Sony 7000es receiver? Shane Lee has a video demo of it for that receiver. That’s also the thing that Andrew Robinson loves about the Sony. Just trying to clarify. Sony doesn’t have Auro 3d so that’s why I am holding out for this. Also I would love to know if this receiver has a newer DAC than the the x3800/4800. Ess sabre maybe? Thanks
Sony is making a big play for format dominance. They own a huge catalogue of movies with Sony pictures, their own studios, and they have been developing a higher resolution streaming protocol to get blueray like streaming into people’s homes. Like a mass market Kaleidescape. The audio is just a piece of this jigantic puzzle. And lets not forget that SPDiF stands for Sony-Philips… so Sony we’ll remembers their past success with setting standards in the CD era.
Don't hold your breath on better dacs with Denon. The same dacs in a £1000 unit and a £3500 unit. Denon let themselves down on that. When I am spending over £3000 I expect upgraded dacs over the lower models. This year the all models get the same sound processor chip. There is no upgraded chip for more expensive models. Another disappointment.
Thank you Gene, great and informative video. When will the HDMI Diagnostic video come out? Love to learn more about that feature, please advise!! Thanks in advance!
Hi Gene and Everyone... question, What receiver should I buy? The Denon AVR-X8500HA OR Denon AVR-X6800H??? The reason I ask is because it looks like the x8500HA just got a 25% off promo on several big box websites. I planned on the x6800h, but it seems like a deal to just get the 'better' receiver with the discount. Thanks for any feedback!!!
Gene, why is it whenever I’m looking for information, your videos always pop up. Been watching you for years, the Star Trek cutout days. Keep making informative content. Thanks
It would be cool if DAC names had a bit more individual character. I have several things with ESS Sabre 90##, when I really want them to be called the ESS Sabre DragonZord and ESS Sabre Muffin.
Thank you for this informative interview 👍 Will Dirac Live licence be included like with the Onkyo RZ50? Or does it have to be purchased additionally/separately like it is with the X4800H? Thanks.
No news as of 11/29/23... I'm waiting for this as well with all the 6800 upgrades + (hopefully) better Dac's AND the awesome backlit remote.. somehow the white button/black letter backlit remotes (Denon) are harder to read than the black button/white letter remotes (Marantz & Premium Sony TV's ) for me anyway.
When will Denon address the insufficient maximum speaker distance difference in their AVRs? Any one speaker cannot be more than 6 meters away from the closest speaker, and this often prevents proper subwoofer integration. Denon should focus on fixing issues like this that actually affect the sound.
I've been lusting after a new Denon receiver but the 6800H and even the 2800H are way out of my price ballpark. Can the average person really hear a difference between the 2800H and the AVR-970H? I would love to see a blind test.
Not always clear which features are specific to the 6800 and which are new for the x800 series. I might be better off with the 4800, but a little hard to tell without a direct comparison. FWIW, I prefer Denon's form factor, though like the Sony their front-end is looking a little dated. Good on them for spending time on the OSD -- I agree that's higher priority. I also appreciate the willingness to incorporate as many sound and video formats as they can -- it's important to be agnostic when the product is a fancy switch. Inclusion of Dirac was a pretty important move this gen for them, even if pricey. I think I'm giving more points for SSM than four subs as a standout feature, though choice is great in the market. Seems like the first company to crack both room correction and speaker placement correction at a consumer price point is going to rule a generation, bwtfdik.
@BornIn82 I have the 6700, but the new 6800 seems to have a couple of features that are not on the 4800 and lower. Will the features be added via firmware update. You have sony 360 audio. Is that via software? Will the 4800 down have it. It wasn't very clear in the video. That is why is why I said it is confusing.
When Audyssey give up or there 6m/20ms goal between speakers and Subwoofer distances ? Gene and Phil is time to change that. Dirac have 50ms distance calculation. Some living rooms are bigger over the time. Will be great opportunity for Denon/ Marantz Av-products go to 50ms / 60ms distance Calculation at Audyssey there. Nice Video.
Love to see that it has Auro 3D. I have only ever used the upmixer on my Marantz 7015 and does so much for 5.1 tracks (most movies). Waiting to see the companion Marantz model to replace the 8015.
A big question I was wondering is, with the GUI redesign, are format-specific settings still hidden unless source material in that format is being processed by the AVR?
When I bought my Denon 8500 HA, I was shocked that I couldn't play my movies with my "Thumb Drive" plugged into the 8500HA. Wow !!!!! I hope there is a update for that !!!!
Here here, it would be great if usb ports were fully featured computer like experiences. It is kind of asking allot to have it be a computer too, I think avr’s are like asics not designed to run user software or 3rd party peripherals. Maybe the answer is to get another little media center PC there’s lots of mini PC’s for enthusiast tinkerers that would probably scratch the itch of wanting more from the USB ports.
Folks If audyssey is zero db on referente levels and Dirac is 6db louder, How can I know when be in reference volume? 😮😮😮 -6db of Dirac is 0db on audyssey? Dont get it
Why no fast media switching or whatever the heck it's called? They really need to start marking these like HDMI 2.1-. If there's a dash on the end, it means you need to check and see what chunks of the HDMI 2.1 spec does your HDMI 2.1 device not support? This is getting old. Like the first 4K AVRs that didn't support 4K 120. It's just crazy that these very expensive HDMI switches always seem to be bad at HDMI switching. The solution? Plug your device directly into your TV and don't use the AVR.
I don't spend a cent anymore, streaming is shitting on the sound of movies and the only real sound we had were the DVDs. I wanted to rent transformers in the red box machine and it turns out that only Paramount + has it
Bluray still offering the best audio available, outside of a kaleidescape. But don’t worry, streaming will catch up soon. It’s inevitable, and thanks to competitive profit incentives, we get to experience innovation!
Ah , this still is midrange class and why Denon didn't release 8500HA upgrade with yet decent price , couse A1H is f...... expensive and not everyone need those 15 channels amplif.
Hello, I dont know what upgrade from x2600 should I do, I have issue with underpowered music stereo listening. X4800 or X6700 for 5.1 setup? They have similar prices now and X6800 isnt available so far… thx a lot
Wow. Shut up and take my money. I own a denon 4806ci and was looking for a new receiver for the past 5 years and now I may settle with this one. Based on what I have read through out the forums, they seem to have read all customers complaints and desires and squeezed those inside this machine.
Hi Audioholics, when will AV receivers get a proper high res screens with touch control. all the cameras these days got them. my thinking is that its the next big step in function and ease of use. imagine an 8 inch nice FHD screen in the front! swipe swipe swipe...
Why would you need that many HDMI inputs? I could see needing 2.. one for your video source and one for a gaming console.. maybe a third . But why would you need so many ?
I use 4 and that's only because my pc is straight to the TV. I also use two hdmi outs, for the two Tv's in the room. Don't compare your setup to others.
It's frustrating that Amazon's Chromecast app doesn't support 360 reality audio and neither does the Heos board. Half of Amazon's spatial tracks are 360 and you can't play them in surround sound.
And here i was worried that my Avr 6700h was going to look like a dinosaur. Will there be updates possible to the 6700h for those of us that already paid over 3000 dollars for our units?
@demonreturns4336 adding the Sony surround and possibly Dirac. The menu options they said that improved weren't even an issue for set up on the 6700h, so that is a non-issue for me.
@@kstofkos it’s kind of an irrational preference, but for me I absolutely love that they changed it from speakers “large” to “full range”. Even though it’s functionally the same, it brings me so much satisfaction that it’s named correctly. All the little Gui optimizations really mean allot to me. Especially putting the crossover options there with full range on the same page, mmmm mmmmmmmmm! That’s good!
At this point most AVRs are completely overloaded with superfluous and/or poorly implemented features that is quickly forgotten, never used or simply turned off because they add no value, degrade sound quality and clutter up the user interface.
I felt these revisions and optimizations showed allot of care and consideration in that department. So very refreshing to see generational uplift on those typically stale iteratively identical things. It really shows that the team at Denon is flowing and has the agility to deliver on the software side. I suspect the receiver industry has more going on than we see, and it will be exciting to see the competition wake up to this much needed pace of innovation and user experience optimization. Just the other day I left an old box of triscuits next to my receiver, and the two just blended in so well I didn’t even notice. :P
So denon, Sony, marantz all Have new amps but nothing from Yamaha at all. But yet I cannot find any of there yamaha amps in the uk. Poor show from them.
My amplifier was a Marantz SR 7013 it blew up banging all the speakers one night when I was watching a video I tried for places to get it repaired and the last place I went to you he told me I cannot get the parts for this anymore my amplifier was four years old it's NOW GONE TO THE JUNK YARD IN THE SKY A warning to you all out there if anything goes wrong you cannot get the parts for these amplifiers impossible and you can't trust secondhand parts I am no without an amplifier and the prices are too high colossal beyond my pocket that's the way life is now you'd expect a number for the last 10 years no it doesn't that's it
The sound of the X6700 was so much worse than a Yamaha RX-A6A or A8A that I don't think the X6800 can now come close to the Yamahas. The Denons remain the poorly manufactured feature AVRs and the Yamaha remain the good-sounding massively processed AVRs
This receiver is totally over kill for basically 99% of the people!!! Buy the receiver that really fits you and what you really use your receiver for!!!
It could have had 8 hdmi inputs instead from the sound of it 😂 Some fully balanced xlr outputs would be great too. Not overkill. 24 XLRs might be overkill for most.
I just ordered a X4800H today, since I don't need 11 channels of amplification. Got an external amp for LCR. The rest doesn't need that much juice. Got a great deal on it for €1329 (about 1420 USD). Saves me a lot of money not waiting for the X6800H.
Finally, somebody does a video on the 6800. literally no one at CEDIA with a big UA-cam channel is talking about the AVR X6800H. I feel like all I heard about was the MarVR gen 2, it’s like all of these other home theater channels have turned into Shane Lee and don’t talk about products that I might actually buy.
There was no Information, that the 6800 was shown in a separate room outside the Show. Also our german masimo Team didn't know this. Bad communication by masimo.
Who is Shane Lee?
@@matthewr3986lol good one
Gene, It's GREAT to see Phil back on your channel. I was worried he left the company. He's such a knowledgeable gentleman.
Thank you Gene. This was a great interview. I appreciate your intelligence and passion for audio. This seems like a dream amplifier.
When the 6700 came out in 2020 it was listed for $2500.USD,as more people was staying home Denon raised the price to $2900.USD.Thankfully you nowcan get the 6700 for $2000. The 6800 is listed for $3500.USD why has Denon raised the price on a 11.4 AVR and why itis that we can't get the Silver finish of these Denon AVRs here in the USA.
What DACs are used in the X6800H and will AKM DACs make a return to Denon AVRs? Thanks.
Once/if ART is available, I’ll likely get this over the Marantz AV10 based on price. I’ve had Dirac and Audyssey MQX. I like MQX vs Dirac Live but ART is another level
So the obvious question is why doesn't HEOS support ATMOS / 360 audio directly?
Denon always do it the best.
Yeah I’m starting to notice that too. Ha ha Maybe Phil will tell us the secret sauce.
haha yeah.@@SwirlingDragonMist
kinda dissapointed you didn't ask for the specifications on the DAC chip. Hopefully it had a Sabre DAC like his big brother. but it probably has the same TI dac found in the lower models
Are you seeing any issues with eARC audio dropouts or the video out just stopping until a power cycle?
I already tried a good quality HDMI 2.1 cable at half the length and no change. Mine has been worse since the factory reset. It was only doing it when changing inputs like three times but a few times (like every evening) now just watching a show on the Apple TV and the video will just cut out. I have to power the AVR off and then it is good for a time.
The eARC audio dropout is easy to check but with the dead video out put, it could be days with no issue.
They want to point to the cables and then the TV but come on, I can re-connect the X6500H and both issues that I never had before are gone.
Seems like their new all HDMI 2.1 board has issues but I thought it was the same board used in some of the other Denon AVRs from the last year. They are now wanting me to send it in for service. :(
Adding to the frustration, I've got the Dirac license that needs to be returned by February 11th. I still can't get them to tell me if I can use it before getting a refund or not. I got the license, mic and the stand and do not want to be stuck with them.
Glad you asked about Dirac ART/Bass Control potential upgrades. Im on the fence with the AV10 and wanted confirmation its coming...sadly it doesnt seem like its a done deal that it will be added.
I did read somewhere that it was leaked. Denon has been beta testing dirac art firmware upgrade. They can't say anything concrete until October when Storm Audio's exclusive use of art has ended.
@@michaeloconnor9465 oooh that’s nice and spicy! Would be great to see older models get a boost. Would inspire allot of confidence in the brand, and reduce Fomo anxiety around waiting for the next feature.
At 12.40 Phil mixes up Dynamic Volume for what he actually means Dynamic EQ
I've been waiting for this and will buy this. one complaint: I like to listen to music over HDMI while watching football. currently there are workarounds to do this, but why can't we select audio from one HDMI source and video from another?
Anthem allows you to do this
pretty sure many receivers do. denon themselves USED to do this.
i think is because of the hdmi copy protection
one would think, but I think other avr's allow this?
On my yamaha rx-a3080 i cant use 2 hdmi a the same time
I am glad to see the X6800H will get Dirac art. My only grip is when you move into this price category, shouldn't we have upgraded Dac chips over and above the cheaper models. Sony 360 audio, to use you have to plug a different device in like Apple TV or Chrome. Why won't it work from your blu ray player or sat tv box. That part seemed a bit confusing.
The supposed lack of upgraded DAC's for the increased price, if true, is disappointing. Denon/Marantz REALLY downgraded the DAC's in these things to practically bargain basement models when they moved away from AKM chips. Even though AKM is out with improved DAC's.
@@dan_hitchman007 I always notice Audioholics are very silent on these posts and seem to be in love with anything Denon and Marantz do. No little Audioholics love icon on any critical posts.
It's Finally Here ( 6800!) I was Really Wondering If They Was Going Make A 6800 @ All For A Minute! Hey Gene, Is It Ideal To Connect All My Devices To My Avr Or TV These Days??? I'm Talking Avr's Like This 1 And The Latest TV's 📺 , Like The Samsung S95C The Sony A95L And Or LG G3 Ect.Ect???
Do all of the new models that have pre out mode have the same options to only do selected channels instead of all or nothing?
I bought the 6700h in Jan this year returned it it had a heating problem and can cook and egg.. Purchased the 6800H on 2/6 from Bestbuy..it works great with my 9.2 Klipsch speaker system and my Sony 85 950G.. Hope it last.. 😊😊😊
Ok so is the Sony 360 reality audio (which is I’m assuming is just for music) not the same as 360 spatial sound mapping (which creates an immersive sound field for movies) in the Sony 7000es receiver? Shane Lee has a video demo of it for that receiver. That’s also the thing that Andrew Robinson loves about the Sony. Just trying to clarify. Sony doesn’t have Auro 3d so that’s why I am holding out for this. Also I would love to know if this receiver has a newer DAC than the the x3800/4800. Ess sabre maybe? Thanks
I dont think Denon is using a a sabre dac. The Akm dac in mine sounds good. I am waiting for ART.
Sony is making a big play for format dominance. They own a huge catalogue of movies with Sony pictures, their own studios, and they have been developing a higher resolution streaming protocol to get blueray like streaming into people’s homes. Like a mass market Kaleidescape. The audio is just a piece of this jigantic puzzle. And lets not forget that SPDiF stands for Sony-Philips… so Sony we’ll remembers their past success with setting standards in the CD era.
Don't hold your breath on better dacs with Denon. The same dacs in a £1000 unit and a £3500 unit. Denon let themselves down on that. When I am spending over £3000 I expect upgraded dacs over the lower models. This year the all models get the same sound processor chip. There is no upgraded chip for more expensive models. Another disappointment.
Thank you Gene, great and informative video. When will the HDMI Diagnostic video come out? Love to learn more about that feature, please advise!! Thanks in advance!
Hi Gene and Everyone... question, What receiver should I buy? The Denon AVR-X8500HA OR Denon AVR-X6800H??? The reason I ask is because it looks like the x8500HA just got a 25% off promo on several big box websites. I planned on the x6800h, but it seems like a deal to just get the 'better' receiver with the discount. Thanks for any feedback!!!
And I thought my 660 was pretty good. Still love it. ❤️ Denon.
Gene, why is it whenever I’m looking for information, your videos always pop up. Been watching you for years, the Star Trek cutout days. Keep making informative content. Thanks
Very good informative video but one important part is missing I hope regarding DAC in the unit howmany chips used and howmuch chanel in each
More than likely it’s using two of the same AKM I’m DAC’s that are used in the 4800.
Nothing is likely because you write nonsense. The 4800 uses TI DACs, specifically the PCM5102.
It would be cool if DAC names had a bit more individual character. I have several things with ESS Sabre 90##, when I really want them to be called the ESS Sabre DragonZord and ESS Sabre Muffin.
Thank you for this informative interview 👍
Will Dirac Live licence be included like with the Onkyo RZ50? Or does it have to be purchased additionally/separately like it is with the X4800H?
Thanks.
@@we8463 That's what I think too.
I am not a fan of D&M, but I really do appreciate their efforts in the avr game. Get rid of TI DACs lower down the range and I'm in...
Denon offer a 3xHDMI 8K input (mains power operated) adaptor in the UK for those of you with the previous model, the AVR and AVC6700H.
Any guess, when a Marantz Cinema 30 will come out?
No news as of 11/29/23... I'm waiting for this as well with all the 6800 upgrades + (hopefully) better Dac's AND the awesome backlit remote.. somehow the white button/black letter backlit remotes (Denon) are harder to read than the black button/white letter remotes (Marantz & Premium Sony TV's ) for me anyway.
Is the Dirac Live included? Or do we still need to purchase the licensing?
I'm assuming DLBC and ART will require extra licensing (when available).
Same question here.
With the Onkyo RZ50 Dirac Live is included.
It's at least 10% on top regarding the X4800H. So it's something worth considering.
Great video, thanks! In the papers HDMI board looks the same as for 4800. Or am I missing something?
When will Denon address the insufficient maximum speaker distance difference in their AVRs? Any one speaker cannot be more than 6 meters away from the closest speaker, and this often prevents proper subwoofer integration. Denon should focus on fixing issues like this that actually affect the sound.
Thanks for the video
The secondary camera you're using is easier on the eyes, it's sharper too.
I've been lusting after a new Denon receiver but the 6800H and even the 2800H are way out of my price ballpark. Can the average person really hear a difference between the 2800H and the AVR-970H? I would love to see a blind test.
Best option to maximize Auro3D 13.1
Gene it would be great if they masimo showed how there new AVr and processors Eq transducers.
You can assign 1 sub out as LFE only for that purpose.
what happened to DTS-X pro? I just purchased the X6800H and when received noticed that there's no mention of DTS-X Pro anywhere. WTH??
Might as well have an even number of HDMI ports then.
Gene, have you measured this? When do you get one in your shop?
No the unit isn't even shipping yet. 😅
Not always clear which features are specific to the 6800 and which are new for the x800 series. I might be better off with the 4800, but a little hard to tell without a direct comparison.
FWIW, I prefer Denon's form factor, though like the Sony their front-end is looking a little dated. Good on them for spending time on the OSD -- I agree that's higher priority. I also appreciate the willingness to incorporate as many sound and video formats as they can -- it's important to be agnostic when the product is a fancy switch. Inclusion of Dirac was a pretty important move this gen for them, even if pricey. I think I'm giving more points for SSM than four subs as a standout feature, though choice is great in the market. Seems like the first company to crack both room correction and speaker placement correction at a consumer price point is going to rule a generation, bwtfdik.
I think it is confusing as well.
basically, you get two additional channels with the 6800 to get 13.1, but you would require external amplification.
@@BornIn82but that’s no different than the 6700 it’s replacing tho
@BornIn82 I have the 6700, but the new 6800 seems to have a couple of features that are not on the 4800 and lower. Will the features be added via firmware update. You have sony 360 audio. Is that via software? Will the 4800 down have it. It wasn't very clear in the video. That is why is why I said it is confusing.
@@demonreturns4336 my differentiation was with the 4800 as per the original post above.
Nice but will they ever up date that out dated look???
I want a polished chrome teardrop.
So when is this thing even supposed to actually be hitting retail shelves for purchase 🤷♂️
Still the looks of the Cinema series is much better then the Denons
Hey is there a receiver that has a display port?
When Audyssey give up or there 6m/20ms goal between speakers and Subwoofer distances ? Gene and Phil is time to change that. Dirac have 50ms distance calculation. Some living rooms are bigger over the time. Will be great opportunity for Denon/ Marantz Av-products go to 50ms / 60ms distance Calculation at Audyssey there. Nice Video.
Worth an Upgrade from the x6700H 2.1 ?
Still waiting & hoping for some good class D AVR’s to hit the market 😞
Or hopefully a newer version of Marantz 7706 with Dirac
Love to see that it has Auro 3D. I have only ever used the upmixer on my Marantz 7015 and does so much for 5.1 tracks (most movies). Waiting to see the companion Marantz model to replace the 8015.
A big question I was wondering is, with the GUI redesign, are format-specific settings still hidden unless source material in that format is being processed by the AVR?
When I bought my Denon 8500 HA, I was shocked that I couldn't play my movies with my "Thumb Drive" plugged into the 8500HA. Wow !!!!! I hope there is a update for that !!!!
Here here, it would be great if usb ports were fully featured computer like experiences. It is kind of asking allot to have it be a computer too, I think avr’s are like asics not designed to run user software or 3rd party peripherals. Maybe the answer is to get another little media center PC there’s lots of mini PC’s for enthusiast tinkerers that would probably scratch the itch of wanting more from the USB ports.
Hi what about dts x pro on that model? It's not been mentioned at all. Even on the box.
Interesting. I will find out.
Only things missing is Roon Ready , hope they work for it !
What’s the difference between Sony reality 360 and MPEG-H? Thought the SR8015 and X6700 could support MPEG-H?
www.marantz.com/-/media/files/documentmaster/marantzna/uk/marantz_sr8015_product_info_sheet_eu_2022.pdf
Yamaha, I need you to come out with something soon 😩
They had an episode last week with the Yamaha rep. Really made Ypao look pretty cool.
@@SwirlingDragonMistwhat video as I can not Find it thanks
@@meridiusuk8567 best of luck finding it.
I have Yamaha x A2A receiver 7.2 I want to know is this have DAC built-in ?
Folks If audyssey is zero db on referente levels and Dirac is 6db louder, How can I know when be in reference volume? 😮😮😮 -6db of Dirac is 0db on audyssey? Dont get it
Other than 4 subs what's the different between this one and yamaha rxa8a
13 channels of processing, DIRAC live support, Sony 360 really audio support.
Video starts at 00:55
The mention of Audyssey "Dynamic Volume" is actually the feature Audyssey "Dynamic EQ". Dynamic Volume is a 3-step dynamic-range compression circuit.
Why no fast media switching or whatever the heck it's called? They really need to start marking these like HDMI 2.1-. If there's a dash on the end, it means you need to check and see what chunks of the HDMI 2.1 spec does your HDMI 2.1 device not support? This is getting old. Like the first 4K AVRs that didn't support 4K 120. It's just crazy that these very expensive HDMI switches always seem to be bad at HDMI switching. The solution? Plug your device directly into your TV and don't use the AVR.
Wait a minute here, why would you need a separate streamer to listen to Tidal? Are saying that you got rid of the built in HEOS app??
Heos remains. You misunderstood.
mind answering my question regarding the DAC chip? i don't know is also an answer ofcourse.@@Audioholics
I don't spend a cent anymore, streaming is shitting on the sound of movies and the only real sound we had were the DVDs. I wanted to rent transformers in the red box machine and it turns out that only Paramount + has it
Get the 4k disc set. Done.
Bluray still offering the best audio available, outside of a kaleidescape. But don’t worry, streaming will catch up soon. It’s inevitable, and thanks to competitive profit incentives, we get to experience innovation!
is any avr confirmed for Dirac ART?
Will this model be available in the EU?
Why would you leave the amps on????
Ah , this still is midrange class and why Denon didn't release 8500HA upgrade with yet decent price , couse A1H is f...... expensive and not everyone need those 15 channels amplif.
Hello, I dont know what upgrade from x2600 should I do, I have issue with underpowered music stereo listening. X4800 or X6700 for 5.1 setup? They have similar prices now and X6800 isnt available so far… thx a lot
Buy other Speaker with higher sensitivity or X4800 in combination with external 3-7CH Amp will be the best for you to get enough Power.
@@modixmodnox7083i bought 6700 meanwhile and my speakers have sensitivity 89 db… i dont hear much of a difference:(
Thanks (Very Good)
Suggestion for Masimo. A fifth sub output would be the cheese. Four subs for the room, a fifth for the seat actuators.
Awesome video, thanks!
You can assign 1 of 4 subs as LFE for an actuator. Then, pair 2 subs of equal path lengths to MLP for 1 sub out.
That’s a great idea!
Wow. Shut up and take my money. I own a denon 4806ci and was looking for a new receiver for the past 5 years and now I may settle with this one. Based on what I have read through out the forums, they seem to have read all customers complaints and desires and squeezed those inside this machine.
Great
Hi Audioholics, when will AV receivers get a proper high res screens with touch control. all the cameras these days got them. my thinking is that its the next big step in function and ease of use. imagine an 8 inch nice FHD screen in the front! swipe swipe swipe...
The question is how much will this room turn on 6800 H cost I would say €4000 dollars whatever
Why would you need that many HDMI inputs? I could see needing 2.. one for your video source and one for a gaming console.. maybe a third .
But why would you need so many ?
I use 4 and that's only because my pc is straight to the TV. I also use two hdmi outs, for the two Tv's in the room. Don't compare your setup to others.
Cable Box, Fire tv Stick, gaming Console, media olayer, blu ray Player apple TV and one HDMI Cable to connect a notebook
Watching football 😅 check this out later though. Love Denon, just... budget😢
Boomer!
Denon or Yam ?
What a mother of an av...
It's frustrating that Amazon's Chromecast app doesn't support 360 reality audio and neither does the Heos board. Half of Amazon's spatial tracks are 360 and you can't play them in surround sound.
That’s a bummer, I’m sure a new model is just around the corner.
And here i was worried that my Avr 6700h was going to look like a dinosaur.
Will there be updates possible to the 6700h for those of us that already paid over 3000 dollars for our units?
Updates for what exactly?
Ya know if the $3000 range could be the $2000 range, on sale for $1,500… that would be great!
@demonreturns4336 adding the Sony surround and possibly Dirac.
The menu options they said that improved weren't even an issue for set up on the 6700h, so that is a non-issue for me.
@@kstofkos it’s kind of an irrational preference, but for me I absolutely love that they changed it from speakers “large” to “full range”. Even though it’s functionally the same, it brings me so much satisfaction that it’s named correctly. All the little Gui optimizations really mean allot to me. Especially putting the crossover options there with full range on the same page, mmmm mmmmmmmmm! That’s good!
3,500 hundred bucks and no balanced ins or outs...It's a shame to see balanced being phased out. Nice Receiver though
Most balanced connections in consumer gear at this level are fake balanced with little benefit.
At this point most AVRs are completely overloaded with superfluous and/or poorly implemented features that is quickly forgotten, never used or simply turned off because they add no value, degrade sound quality and clutter up the user interface.
Agreed
I felt these revisions and optimizations showed allot of care and consideration in that department. So very refreshing to see generational uplift on those typically stale iteratively identical things.
It really shows that the team at Denon is flowing and has the agility to deliver on the software side.
I suspect the receiver industry has more going on than we see, and it will be exciting to see the competition wake up to this much needed pace of innovation and user experience optimization.
Just the other day I left an old box of triscuits next to my receiver, and the two just blended in so well I didn’t even notice. :P
What want or need “normal” featured AVR or preamp ?
So denon, Sony, marantz all
Have new amps but nothing from Yamaha at all. But yet I cannot find any of there yamaha amps in the uk. Poor show from them.
We have arms, and we shall wave them.
Gotta keep em moving to avoid atrophy :)
@@Audioholics my mistake, I thought you were researching standing waves!
My amplifier was a Marantz SR 7013 it blew up banging all the speakers one night when I was watching a video I tried for places to get it repaired and the last place I went to you he told me I cannot get the parts for this anymore my amplifier was four years old it's NOW GONE TO THE JUNK YARD IN THE SKY A warning to you all out there if anything goes wrong you cannot get the parts for these amplifiers impossible and you can't trust secondhand parts I am no without an amplifier and the prices are too high colossal beyond my pocket that's the way life is now you'd expect a number for the last 10 years no it doesn't that's it
The sound of the X6700 was so much worse than a Yamaha RX-A6A or A8A that I don't think the X6800 can now come close to the Yamahas.
The Denons remain the poorly manufactured feature AVRs and the Yamaha remain the good-sounding massively processed AVRs
u had both ? I'm confused due to Dirac
@@ranakirti I don't understand your sentence!
I had the Yamaha then the Denon much prefer the Denon sound
This receiver is totally over kill for basically 99% of the people!!! Buy the receiver that really fits you and what you really use your receiver for!!!
It could have had 8 hdmi inputs instead from the sound of it 😂
Some fully balanced xlr outputs would be great too.
Not overkill. 24 XLRs might be overkill for most.
I just ordered a X4800H today, since I don't need 11 channels of amplification. Got an external amp for LCR.
The rest doesn't need that much juice. Got a great deal on it for €1329 (about 1420 USD).
Saves me a lot of money not waiting for the X6800H.
And you think just 2 speaker presets is overkill? 8-12 would be great to cover more scenarios.
Solo vs group of people, diff EQs, etc
@boterhammetpindakaashagels384 which retailer?
The viewership of this channel is the other 1%!