Library Chat #14: On the Najdī Dawah (and the Issue of Istighātha) | Shaykh Dr. Yasir Qadhi
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Note: This video consists of four parts all related to the same topic!
Part One: My Journey
Part Two: The Paganism of the Quraysh
Part Three: Aspects of Najdī History
Part Four: Non-Najdī Views & Conclusion
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Thank you. This is the longest lecture i have ever listened on theology. This lecture is a big enlightenment. We just need to be open minded.
00:00 Intro
00:38 Who this video is for and who not
01:57 Why the video is lengthy
02:25 Polemics
03:50 Nature of Video; not a refutation or defence, rather an explanation of trajectory
04:23 YQ's trajectory
05:16 Feelings moving on
06:09 Context behind video; the recent fatwa about calling the dead
06:56 Aftermath of fatwa
07:30 Overview of sections of this video
08:40 YQ’s history of affiliation to Najdi movement
09:33 YQ's time at Madinah University
10:20 Credentials in Aqeedah Studies
11:25 Activism in Najdi Dawah in ‘90s
12:01 YQ's pro-najdi books
12:48 Humble request to critics
13:29 2005: PhD vs returning to America
13:58 Style of preaching after graduation
14:54 How YQ moved away from the Najdi movements. The doubts
15:12 Learning through teaching
16:46 What began to bother YQ
18:00 Majority vs Minority on this issue
19:17 Seems clear, so why...?
19:47 The appealing notion; Najdis on Shirk
20:49 Apparent parallels between theory and reality;point of Kashf alShubuhaat
21:50 Mainstream spectrum of opinions
22:57 Confrontations about Shirk
23:57 Bin Bayyah's response
25:17 How the response struck YQ
26:00 Final Catalyst and last straw to moving away from the movement
27:08 with the Mainstream, incl Ibn Aabideen & San'aani
27:31 Advocating Barelwism/extreme sufism?
28:10 Similarity between ISIS and 1st wave Najdi Dawah
29:03 Not teaching Light of Guidance anymore
30:00 Refutation Culture biases
31:20 Listening objectively
32:13 Delinking himself from the Dawah psychologically; letting go of biases
33:21 Leaving AlMaghrib
34:20 Academia did not shape this view
34:50 Reasons for change of view
35:19 This view was not influenced by Shaykh Hatim Awni
35:33 Who introduced YQ to Shaykh Hatim's writings on this issue?
37:37 Students have right to know why i left movement
37:50 Introducing Najdi ideas to English speakers
38:37 awareness of counterarguments. Do not rehash
39:03 Certainty about people of Shahadatayn
39:47 Who is upon misguidance?
39:10 anymosity towards...?
41:08 Complexities in dealing with theological models
43:10 Summary of Points of Discussion: MiAW's Misunderstandings, Repercussions of this , Pre-najdi norms
43:51 Not endorsing the mistakes
46:49 Najdi view is atypical
47:34 “MiAW misunderstood the Paganism of Quraysh”
48:19 Shirk worse now?
49:00 A reference to Sultan Umayree vs Hatim Awnee
49:29 The Najdi notion of Shirk of Quraysh
50:35 Separating Ruboobiyyah from Uluhiyyah. Concept of Supreme God and semi independent minigods.
53:44 Reality of Quraysh's belief
54:24 Textual evidences for their deficiencies in Tawheed Ruboobiyyah
Ayah of Fussilat, Hadeeth of Ibn Masood, Ayah of Israa, Ayah of Yaaseen, Ayah of Anbiyaa, Ayah of Ankaboot, Ayah of Zumar, Story of Dimaam, Ayah of Anaam, Ayah of Baqarah, another Ayah of Anbiyah
54:49 Thinking God is aloof
56:36 Understanding the Pagan's Talbiyah and partnership
58:04 Quraysh affirming dominions for other than Allah (Ayah of Israa)
59:15 phrasing of the Quran shows nature of shirk
01:00:11 Independent help
01:01:56 miAW took some verses of affirmation and ignored others of negation.
01:03:10 Pagan's threatening with their 'minigods'
01:05:30 how Shirk of love occurs. Najdis struggling with a definition
01:08:18 Notion of "minigods challenging the supreme god"
01:09:20 Conclusion: Claim of their perfection of Ruboobiyyah is false
01:10:37 reading all texts through one lens
01:11:30 Ayah of Muminoon shows reality of their paganism. Concept of demigods
Incorrect derivation : affirmation of supreme rububiyyah negates all forms of ruboobiyyah from others
01:15:49 Book recommendation about nature of paganism. Adi ibn Hatim's belief
01:18:20 miAW's false construction allowed him to compare the Quraysh's shirk to the mistakes found at graves
01:19:25 Ayah of Fatir
01:21:18 clarification of main evidences Najdis use. Ayah of Yunus and Zumar.
01:22:17 Allowed, Disallowed and Shirki forms of intermediaries
01:22:57 Not merely intermediaries
01:23:39 Usage of term Ibadah and its relevance
01:24:20 spectrum of rulings for asking someone for something
Examples and scenarios showing decisive factor in what counts as Shirk and not shirk in actions: Sahaba’s Charity, Isa giving life to dead
01:40:19 Mistake but may not be shirk. What makes the mistake shirk
01:42:20 Irony about intention
01:44:10 Benefit from Hadith of Sahabi asking companionship in Jannah
01:45:10 Why its still a mistake and haram
01:46:44 How do we understand which Duas are Shirk?
01:48:42 Pointing out the faults of the movement. Why?
01:49:10 Democratisation of knowledge
01:50:40 Romanticised idea about the movement
01:51:37 Accessing opposing books
01:52:10 YQ in Egypt: Books and Fundamentals of Faith Show
01:52:50 MiAW’s brother’s book refuting him. Reading it critically then objectively
01:53:31 Groupthink
01:54:00 Dispelling stereotypes about MiAW critics
01:55:02 link with fanaticism.
Problem with view is their position with those who differ with their view
01:57:06 MiAW's unprecedented view
01:58:00 reading an extract from the book; criticising the takfeer
02:00:24 Corollary
02:00:54 Some scholars (incl Hanbali) who said MiAW misunderstood
02:01:17 Misunderstanding Ibn Taymiyyah’s statement
02:03:10 extract from Durar Saniyyah; no one knew this theology
02:05:39 Takfeer without Uzr bilJahl. Theory vs Practice
Forced Confessions of Scholars
02:15:00 Takfeer of Ottoman Empire
02:16:35 Assassination of Ibn Mu’ammar after Jumuah in the Masjid
02:19:33 Assassination by fatwa
02:20:25 Dangerous repercussions of this theology
02:22:00 Backlash to fatwa
Threats and requests of execution
02:24:11 Muhammad ibn Alawi alMaaliki
02:25:03 What delayed YQ's departure from the movement
02:26:49 Inevitable result of Fanaticism is Prioritising refutations
02:30:00 "Modern Salafism=Madkhalism"
Reputation of movement.
Issue isn't the akhlaq or lack of wisdom.
02:31:57 Harshness results from...
02:34:27 Message to critics
02:34:51 Speaking directly with opponents as opposed to public attacks
02:35:48 Dua for critics
02:36:45 Pre-Najdi Scholarship differing with Najdi views
02:37:59 YQ on Al-Azhar's fatwa
02:39:21 Different waves of Najdism (demarcated in YQ's upcoming book)
02:39:55 Issue with Uzr bil Jahl position
02:41:00 Issues not as they're made to seem by Najdis
02:41:51 Najdi Responses to some of Ibn AlQaayim’s positions
02:42:14 Differences between Najdism and Hanabila
Qadi Abu Yala, Mar'i alKarmi, Ibn Badran
02:45:20 Ibn Taymiyyah's isn't pro-najdi on this issue
Story with his adversaries. A nuanced quote from him.
02:46:27 Reading Ibn Taymiyyah's works holistically
02:48:15 Ibn Taymiyyah quote on Istighathah
02:50:00 Ibn Taymiyyah with alBakri. How he dealt with him.
02:52:01 Contrast between Ibn Taymiyyah and MiAW
02:53:00 EYE-OPENING extract from Ibn Taymiyyah's Iqtidaa alSiraat alMustaqeem.
03:03:03 Studying history to know context
03:05:00 Summary of the issues
03:06:35 Issue with 3rd Wave (toned down) Najdism
03:07:18 Effect of Najdism on communities
03:08:19 Preaching Tawheed and Shirk with Najdi definitions
03:09:36 Ibn Taymiyyah's Ijmaa?
03:11:20 Appreciation of adab between Umayree and Awnee in their discussion on this issue . Umayree has good (but undecisive) points, requiring a response
03:12:06 More videos from YQ on this topic?
03:12:52 Avoiding polemics, so why this video?
03:14:07 YQ not bad-mouthing his senior scholars or Madinah University
03:14:50 Praising Madeenah University
YQ with Ibn Baz, Uthaymeen, Jibreen
Difficulties in moving on
03:17:02 Ibn Uthaymeen's reference for YQ
03:18:47 Respecting teachers doesnt necessitate agreement
03:19:44 Understanding people's disappointment, but rejecting theories about cause of change
03:20:58 what YQ now believes about sects
03:21:25 what YQ ascribes to
03:22:41 Message to critics
03:23:30 Who are upon khayr
03:25:28 Humble suggestion to refuters
You are a lifesaver!! Everyone like this brother’s comment and make it top comment!🙏🏽
I think you always try to benefit people.
May Allah immensely reward you.
Ameen.
Nice
JazakAllah khayr...I can now stop trying to make my own notes
jazakallahu khayran
Alhamdulillah! Ya Allah, protect my brother Yasir Qadhi, and always protect him from nifaq and taqabbur and Ya Allah bless him with good health and make me and him to meet in Jannah. Ameen
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I would say one thing. I am having a peaceful sleep from the day I watched this. Alhamdulillah . Jazakallahu khayr for your works.
Brother I can feel you 🫂 loll
It is amazing how learned and insightful this scholar is - MashaAllah! May Allah remove the divisions in the hearts of the ummah, and unite us all soon. Aameen
It is very easy to recognise the Wahhabis, takfiris, and the khawarij followers from the comments made on Sheikh Yasir. They have the knack for riling up his rallies with rhetorics that demeans and vilifies Sheikh Yassir without even listening to the latter's lecture.
What do you mean
@@jeep7612 It is self explanatory
Alhamdullilah, I guess those on the methodology of the salaf safe 😂👍
i am not salafi/wahabi but i dont trust yasir either
Yeah yasir qadhi was like their mentor and suddenly he himself is against his own creed and every1 get mad
Masha'Allah, Shaykh Yasir Qadhi has really good manners when talking about such a delicate topic. We should't look to fight and argue with other people online on these issues. May Allah guide us.
This is a very balanced academic response to Sheykh Yasir ua-cam.com/video/TfzRv8zvQqI/v-deo.html
Thank you so much Dr. Yasir Qadi, I feel obliged to say this. Although I am not an advanced student much less a student of knowledge, I found this lecture very very informative and it opened my eyes to an area that I was completely unaware of. I think I understood the gist of your this very informative lecture. Of All your lectures that I have had the pleasure of listening to, I found this lecture the most interesting and eye opening. Once again thank you. May Allah bless you and keeps you steadfast in spreading the good. I am sure those to come of our ummah will greatly benefit from this work and others that you are doing. May Allah increase our understanding of Islam and May make us neighbours in Jannath with other fellow muslims of our ummah. We are a nation without borders, without a race and without the evil that splits us apart. Aameen. Once again I cannot thank you enough for this lecture. I will continue to seek this knowledge and I pray to Allah to give me more understing towards sirat al mustaqim. Sallahlaah Alaa Mohammed, Sallahlaah Alaihi Wassalaam. Aameen Aameen Ya rabbi zul jalali wal ikram.
A humble request to brother Yassir. Please, please and for the sake of Allah write a book about this issue. People need to read it at schools. Jazaakallahu khairan
Agreed
@@MegaMahsood This is explained in the video lol, as for the rabbis and the pope, its shirk because they made the rabbis and pope the Shari' (lawgiver) ya3ni they changed the scriptures entirely, this is the shirk they did in the quran itself, rest is explained in the video.
@@rayanjalaluddinallibnani3154 So according to Yasir, when Christians and Jews call upon saints and rabbis its only haram but not shirk - since they don't believe the saints and rabbis are "Allah".
Abu Huraira reported:
The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: Let there be curse of Allah upon the Jews and the Christians for they have taken the graves of their apostles as places of worship.
وَحَدَّثَنِي قُتَيْبَةُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا الْفَزَارِيُّ، عَنْ عُبَيْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ الأَصَمِّ، حَدَّثَنَا يَزِيدُ بْنُ الأَصَمِّ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ " لَعَنَ اللَّهُ الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصَارَى اتَّخَذُوا قُبُورَ أَنْبِيَائِهِمْ مَسَاجِدَ " .
Reference : Sahih Muslim 530b
may Allah's curse be upon the liars!
@@MiloBoz This hadith is often misquoted, it says worshipped their saints, in Christian and some jewish theologies, they believe their saints have self independent powers (basically making them Arbaab min doonillah), not Istighatha, but rather they did shirk in rububiya and asma wal sifaat in that regard.
@@rayanjalaluddinallibnani3154 no they don't! I used to be Christian and also studied Judaism. They believe the exact same thing as you ya mushrik. Not one of them says the saints or rabbis are Allah.
Thank you shaykh Yasir Qadhi.
May Allah (swt) preserve you and elevate your knowledge and rank. Amin
All I can say is alhamdulillah that I came across this video. The comfort that I felt after all the years of frustration and trauma from what I've seen of this ideology, not to mention the people I've hurt in the process, this was a tremendous relief. Finally something that makes sense and not feeling alone anymore. I always knew in my heart that the true Islam couldn't have been that way of thinking. Though the journey towards reaching the ultimate truth doesn't end at this video, alhamdulillah that I'm finally beginning to see the light that I couldn't see whilst under the dark grip of the Najdi Da'wah movement.
Alhamdulilah thats why we should always stydy orthodox sunnism and leave this najdi dawah
@@Nox-02 Yes, but this is not to say that deviancy doesn't exist in other sunni schools and methodologies. We just have to have an open mind, not get boxed in and seriously purify our intentions. When anyone calls to any form of ism or ideology, it's a big red flag.
Alhamdulillah brother ...I've travelled extensively around the world and especially eastern Europe ...like Macedonia and Slovakia etc...there are people that are Muslims by name but very far from Deen...yet there are people who follow this ideology and all they can care about is refutation and argumentation....it's such a sickness. Some masjids there are no people for Salah ..especially fajar. Yet these people keep talking about things far advanced than what the people are in need of .
Ma sha Allah, watched from start to finish in one sitting. This finished perfectly at iftar time and I wasn't even hungry for food. I wanted more; I wish you'd gone into them tangents you denied us, ma sha Allah.
Really nicely done. All we can do is ask Allah to guide us all. No matter what we say, it is truly Allah who guides.
Personal advice; if you've had these extremists threaten you, then get yourself equipped in order to protect yourself and your family. It only takes one sicko to do the damage and you my friend are to important to lose. May Allah grant you a long healthy life so you may serve His deen, may Allah protect you from the evil of man and jinn, ameen.
Jazzakallah kheyran sheikh
You really make sense to positive and open minded Muslims who really cared to live humbly with other souls on this earth. May Allah guide us all. Truth will prevail
I can compare you to Giants of the past like Ibn Taymiyya, Al Ghazzali etc
You are gifted and very knowledgeable
Allah increase you, l have learnt a lot from you this past few years
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With all respect to Sheikh, those Ulama experienced great trials and tribulations, I don't see in our day and age. Wa llahu aalam
Not even close to those giants who were willing to sacrifice everything for the sake of Islam
Relax Africa. Don't go overboard with your assessment.
🤣🤣 funny guy
Alhamdulillah! I've gotten great benefit from this brother. Personally, I've never viewed him as Salafia based on my experience with many who have embraced this label. I accept his rationale and his position. May Allah SWT accept him and all of the good he has and will do. Aameen!
Got to the end and I feel a deep sense of melancholy. There is so much vitriol and hatred of fellow sincere Muslims when we're being persecuted all over the world.
Ya Shaykh, you're a dearly beloved teacher of mine and I've benefited from you so much. I've come closer to the deen and feel pride in my Islam. And I've come to know and love my beloved Rasūl SAW through your works in conveying this 'ilm to us. I sincerely pray that Allah SWT make your scales heavy with all the khayr that you've brought to us all and long may it continue. This was really enlightening from the discussion on paganism, to the history of the Saudi state and your personal journey. I noticed how you were constantly sighing throughout but I just want to add it doesn't go unnoticed your reluctance to take cheap shots at other Muslims regardless of what you face. May Allah always aid you from His Divine Aid.
Your br. Salah, UK
Ameen!!
There is nothing worthy of worship except Allah and those you Call upon other than Him, cannot benefit or harm you and on the Day of Judgment, they will reject your worship of them, so taste the burning Fire for what you disbelieved.
A thought provoking and merciful listen. May Allah (swt) make our hearts unite on the good, and overlook our weaknesses, and show us light when we encounter patches of darkness in our journey back to Allah (swt). Ameen.
Dearest Brother, May Allah SWT protect you, your intentions, your loved ones and your progeny. Thank you so much for this video. Because 90 and early 2000 " Islam " was Najdi Islam. And that one did so so so much damage in taking people away from Islam. Alhamdulillah we 're coming back bit by bit.
Alhamdulillah thumma Alhamdulillah
This is my First time I've watched more than 3 hours video here on youtube. And I don't regret it 😁
Me too. I love it😄
There is nothing worthy of worship except Allah and those you Call upon other than Him, cannot benefit or harm you and on the Day of Judgment, they will reject your worship of them, so taste the burning Fire for what you disbelieved.
@@millatiibrahim2416 jazakallah for the reminder brother 😇
This is a very balanced academic response to Sheykh Yasir ua-cam.com/video/TfzRv8zvQqI/v-deo.html
@@millatiibrahim2416 the concern is that the minority of Nadji,Salafi, Wahabi movement is declaring the 90% of ummah as Kafir, if they declared it only haram, then it is different thing, but they declare them Kafir. This msg of Yasir Qadhi must be spread, and Save the Ummah
Brother Yasir Qadhi I have learned a lot from you. Nowadays I see many western based English speaking Sheikhs (whom I also like) starting to criticise you in a way that is meant to discourage listening to you as if you were the biggest fitna facing the Muslim ummah. This type of character assassination can be dangerous and can be taken too far if you don't somehow protect yourself. Don't take these lightly may Allah protect you and all the innocent ummah.
"Many western based English speaking Sheikhs" Loool other than social media personalities that grew a Muslim audience and one mainstream Sheikh like Assim Al Hakeem(who doesn't live in the west), I don't know any other western based Sheikhs that spoke out against him.
@@eriKhaled Many have. Please do more research. More importantly compare what YQ has said with the Quran and hadeeth as understood by the Salaf as-Salih. YQ is pushing Islamic liberalism and Soofi way.
This is a very balanced academic response to Sheykh Yasir ua-cam.com/video/TfzRv8zvQqI/v-deo.html
Yes sometimes I read the comments of these videos, where a preacher speaks against him. A lot of people are just provoking and provoking. They can't imagine what this way of speaking can lead to. There are always psychopaths who take some issues too serious and ...
Most important is to argue in a positive way and to be careful about what we say 👌
Thanks Dr. Yasir. I believe it was a must not a choice for you to come and give your views not only to the students of knowledge but for all Muslims and it should have been done a lot earlier than that. Jazak Allah khair and please keep your good work for the benefit of all Muslims.
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❤️ this is absolutely beautiful, everything makes sense. May Allah protect your knowledge and understand🌹
Dr. Yassir Qadhi discusses a very important topic. He elaborates on the wahhabi or Najdi movement. He was one of the leading figures of this movement in the west. He now became more tolerant and rejected extremism in that movement.
Every student and every brother and sister who is influenced by the Salafi movement should listen to this talk. Very inspiring. MaashaaAllah
Too bad the Salafis/Wahhabis are way too stubborn, probably the most obstinate and ignorant/arrogant people of this Ummah...
May Allah SWT bestow you with more knowledge for the benefit of ummah.
The dear Sheikh has really put his neck on the line, but is not afraid to speak the truth. His explanation of Pagans believing their gods can harm/benefit and Ibn Abdul Wahhab's mistakes is BRILLIANTLY explained.
Agreed!! 👍
While simultaneously admitting he changed from this belief which is not an easy thing to publicly declare
out of all scholars, i think u bring out a lot of info critical analysis in a very acedemic way.
comment forma person who studied in deobandi darool uloom, also Islamic studies in university.
we tend to stick to the the ways we have been taught and only think we are correct, but it takes guts to sometimes look at point of view deeply from he other sides and agree and look at mistakes from your own side.
may allah give u hayaatun tayibah.
This is a very balanced academic response to Sheykh Yasir ua-cam.com/video/TfzRv8zvQqI/v-deo.html
This is something I've seen with the majority of the scholars. It comes across a sort of self-censure-ship. It frankly takes some getting used to and I can honestly say, I do not like it. It is definitely one of the reasons I stayed away from religions for such a long period of time. The cynicism and arrogance involved in claiming right is rather bothersome and so unnecessary. So, to me YQ is that rare diamond in the rough. Not many with his inquiring mind exist in any current religions, not just "American" Islam.
YQ: Wahhabis will justify this saying XYZ.
Wahhabis: Makes videos saying XYZ anyway.
@@avoidingdeviance1153 did you watch the video of YQ?
He's a blessing to the ummah
This saying of yours was completely on point:
"The reputation of the najdi salafi movement, in many communites, is that it just causes havoc ..."
This is precicely what they did in my community. For generations, my forefathrs, my late father and mother, all of us, tried to simply be humble muslims. We believed, we prayed, we fastd, we tried to do good. Then, in the late nineties, all of a sudden a few of these "salafies" came freshly from having studied in Medina and literally started causing havoc - conflicts, curses, accusing all of us of being kafir, beating imams, proclaiming everything haram and kufr - while we, the community, were what you would classify as sunni / hanafi. Thank Allah that did not last long, because in a few years their "movement" started to fizzle just as fast as it had come - and many of them left the faith completely and today you can find them in bars, drinking alcohol and what not. Which shows that their iman is always SUPERFICIAL and they concern themselves with the most minute things like the length of ones beard or trousers, while their hearts are void of any faith or empathy.
I really really needed a lecture on this topic from someone like Dr.Yasir Qazi. This is first time Ive seen a non-Sufi to actually understand what sufis believe in. And I believe that this is going to change the lives of many people. Jazak-Allah.
Your words are too magical and it freaks me out . According to me there is no religious preacher is as well spoken as Dr Yasir Qadhi.Anyway I am following you it's been a while and I am benefited a lot. And I am also aware of your critics. I feel really sorry for them.
May Allah give you long life with good health and protect you from any harm. May Allah also Allow you to serve His religion. Love you Shaykh.❤
@@MegaMahsood
From what i got from this video and comments is that he's saying it is haram to call upon dead. So how come is he a caller towards shirk?
@@talibeilm21c Exactly!
When someone has hated or doesn't like someone literally there is barrier between them. They will never get his points and only thing they will see his flaws. I know someone who doesn't like YQ and he doesn't have any reason. Lol
@@MegaMahsood
Why misrepresent his view? He still said it's haram? If someone has a taweel which saves him from Shirk he's still doing a haram act according to YQ.
If by default Takfeer is done on these people then how come Shaykh Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab said we first establish Hujjah. Does he need to establish hujjah on Mushrikoon? As long as they have a shield of taweel they are saved from takfeer.
@@MegaMahsood
He never said you can call them. He said even if they hear it's still haram. Shaykhul Islam ibn Taymiyyah's Iqtida's reference was given.
jazak Allahu khayran Shaykh Yasir for your research and information, may Allah protect you and your Da'wah
A book is much needed for this brief lecture. Jazakhallah.
Theres a practical problem najdism causes for the youth etc, like in my past as a salafi, I wanted to marry a religious person but there was only a handful, then having to reject them because you disagreed on minor issues of handplacement in salah or you did not like what headcovering he is wearing or which mosque he prays or his parents are apart of different movements. This was a minefield for me as being not married was becoming fitnah for me and a struggle as I was coming from a very troubled home and difficulty.
Imagine having to oust a potential religious spouse as kafir???
Having a refuting mentality will cause practical day to day problems in interacting with muslim ummah.
Like another example imagine a muslim sister or brother come to you for help because they have financial difficulty or poor and they are from another sunni movement, if you pass them money, does this count as zakat because you think their movement is kafir? Seriously its not practical.
practical/not practical, who cares? we have evidence for this being haram and not shirk
I've been through the exact same thing as you brother. Navigating a mine field to get married to a type of woman who is also rare. I just needed to relax myself
Alhamdulillah. A detailed and proper explaination abt Wahabism....This threat is entering and spreading rapidly amongst the ummah. In my country its getting worst how they critic and misdirect ppl from ulama...
I love the sheikh for the sake of Allah. The smartest thing the Najdi daees can do is to ignore this and not bring any attention to this. Yasir Qadhi has tried to help them by making this in to an almost 4 hour session that few will watch. If he had split it up it would go absolutely viral. One can see his sincerity in this. Alhumdulillah he is back with the majority of the ummah - he is too brilliant. May Allah guide him to continue to benefit the ummah.
May Allah bless you Shaykh and increase you and protect you. Do not ever be put down by the detractors and keep giving your efforts for the sake of Allah. I know who my role-models are and who Allah has helped to help me in my journey.
Hats off for taking a stand and clearing the doubts, Sheikh. You stood bravely for thr truth though it's so difficult.
Allah bless him.
The time he took to quote books with the respective translations from Arabic, was so much a sign of his credibility. We cherish and value his precious time.
May Allah keep you safe and strong from the enemies, who may want you out (of their Deeni empire).
Dear Imam Yasir. Assalaam Alaykum. Please, please try to benefit the ummah with this remarkable video by putting subtitles in other languages. You showed courage to tackle this subject. Please have sabr from the ignorant among us. This talk is long overdue. This movement has created a lot of damage in our community. May Allah reward you.
Dear I use to tell all these information, to my sisters but they believe me.
But today الحمدللہ they believed me, after listening you.
Allah Bless you.
May they never listen to you and may Allah guide them
Even they don't listen me..
But may Allah they always listen Yasir Qazi. ❤️
l left this nejjdi wehabist ideology 2 years ago.hope our sisters and brothers wake up and understand the toxicity of this theology.
@Nishad Alam it made arrogant even ruined the relationship with my family.how i was blind and deaf then.
May Allah guide us all to the straight path, the path of the righteous people
And Preserves our Iman..from falling prey to so call celebrity scholars (Alim e soo)
That's happen...when someone choose to please ppl leaving ALLAH swt...
ua-cam.com/video/kap3Vvl50yY/v-deo.html
When I heard the statement of cheikh the first time I was intrigued. How someone who has been at the core of this creed could held this new position with no arguments ? It's impossible.
I'm from a salafi background, and nothing to say but cheikh is balanced and honest.
May our hearts be unify on the hadith Jibreel.
Allah be with you Cheikh
nope, he said that the mu'tazila creed was indeed incorrect but all the things we hear on them are sometimes exaggerated.
By the way, for someone who seems to disagree for the most part with YQ why are you following his speechs ? 🤔 I don't get what
Umar didn't know the 6 pillars of imam ?!! Never heard this before. He was among the witnesses of the Hadith Jibreel
I am not saying listening to people we disagree with is bad, but don't say your "opponent" is dishonest when you don't share his views. Remember, the man has written explanations of books lot of us have read
Note : when I say "you", I don't mean you especially
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 Nothing about hadith Jibreel. In your link, cheikh's statement is to underline, like other before him, the companions did not spent their time arguing on Allah's names and attributes. True.
Look, I don't want to argue more about YQ's honesty, at the end of the day, only Allah knows. We have to believe his honesty, it's a right for each muslim (i.e husnu dhan).
I hope no one among the viewers has already made up his mind when listening to cheikh's talks.
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 we dnt hv to call ourselves salafis. Its nt a password to jannah. Any1 cn be a salafi but thier heart is black thn whats the point
@9-11 a mossad van bomber plot? Aipac cover up?
but since the death of Muhammad and the apostate war you have been fighting each other .. so from the beginning ..
I am from Najd, yes you are right, I just discover the same issue recently. However, no one can deny that ibn Abdulwahhab woke up the Ummah at that time from the negativities of Shia, Sufis and the rest from their obsession with graves, shrines and Awlia', it was negative times and the ummah needed a shock at the heart. When the enemy conquered the Muslim world, the Muslims used to go to graves of Awlia' in Egypt and Tunisia and ask for help, I think it was a wake up call. I also dont like to call it Najdi, but Wahhabi, some towns in Najed considered also Kafers by the movement.
ain't nobody was callin for grave worship in ibn abdul dollar's time.
@@Ryan-lf6ds but they make Tawasol and ask help from dead people. Love it or hate it, the Muslim world needed ibn abdulwahhab.
Grave worshipers
Faith is conviction in heart, speech by tongue, and works by the body
Increase by worshiping and decrease by sinning @@Ryan-lf6ds
This was beautiful and perfectly logical
Yes, problem with many Muslims is that they’ll apply logic and common sense to every day issues however when it comes to the deen it all goes out the window.
That's the problem...
It's purely logical
Now he thinks he is the Ibn taymiyyah of our time.
@@MJ_Almajirr How?
@@MJ_Almajirr what? 🤣
Thank you thank you thank you. May Allah reward you. When Allah bless you with knowledge and wisdom that’s what happens. May Allah protect you and elevate you.
This is a very balanced academic response to Sheykh Yasir ua-cam.com/video/TfzRv8zvQqI/v-deo.html
SubhanAllah. This is the most eye opening and deep lecture you have given thus far on this subject. JazakAllah Khair for taking so much time to address this. If anyone has an open mind and an open heart, and they listen to this, they will not deem you as being anything out of mainstream Sunnism or calling to misguidance. The numerous facts and historical information that you present back up everything you are saying.
I thoroughly enjoyed this whole talk. May Allah SWT reward you in this world and the akhirah, ameen.
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Go re read that ayah and it's tafsir brother. You missed the whole point of this lecture or you didn't pay enough attention. The verse you quoted is merely Allah swt condemning for the shirk for which they already had I.e. they already ascribed Lordship to these other gods then they hoped these Gods would intercede on their behalf to Allah.
Meaning you cannot worship something without believing in it as so.e sort of lord.
A Muslim doesn't ascribe Lordship to any of the saints or Prophets or whoever they ask for help.
If they do with the belief that these saints and Prophets are independent of Allah swt and are the ones who can give and take then that is shirk.
So while undoubtedly there may have been haram practices as such in the time of ibn abdul wahhab they in no way warranted mass takfir like ibn abdul wahhab did.
Scholars wouldn't have sat around watching people commit shirk and said nothing and its also why ulema were angry at ibn abdul wahhab because he created a huge misconception and notion and used it to justify rebellion and takfir.
JazakumAllahuKhair for this courageous , honest, and sincere video. These clarification are very important. I personally completed a sharia degree in Saudi Arabia and I have come to the same conclusions as sheikh YQ. May Allah continue to give him Tawfiq and sincerity and protect him and protect the ummah.
@@MM-mc8hs it depends on lot of things intention and if they are assigning attributes/power of Allah to the dead then it becomes shirk, if they are not assigning attributes of Allah to dead it is still "Munkar" "Evil bidah" and stepping stone to shirk according to the majority of the scholars as YQ stated.
So in some cases it can become shirk and other cases it is stepping stone to shirk and still wrong (Munkar).
I hope that makes sense.
Knowledge is the best antidote to extremism.
Loved every second of this video
it's painful as usually people with our frame of mind stay quiet and the refuters are always so loud thinking they Allah is on their side and rewarding them for refuting every single person
sheikh yasir qadhi has always been a person of ambiguity for many years in my eyes except in this lecture
i dont belong to the salafiyah school of thought but i'm too much critical of the positions taken by sheikh but the position explained by him in this lecture clarifies much of his ambiguious statements made so far
i respect sheikh qadhi's deep down reading and research in the search of HAQ
allah is enough to guide us all and may he grant us the path to success in this life and hereafter
Thank you for finally addressing it. Lot of your critics are emotionally attached to the teaching of Abdul Wahhab so for them you leaving their saved sect is almost like apostasy and therefore some of them label you with terms like "zindeeq". They believe their understanding is The Truth and rest of the unmah are misguided. They have never studied the aqeedah of the majority of the scholars.
It's sad the people will be literally searching for few sentences to refute from this lecture and completely ignore everything.
Subhanallah.. Roman centurion's example was shocking and was gist of the matter. Thank you Ustadh.
Everytime I listen to syaikh yassir qadhi, I wish I can be around him and continue learning. Salam from indonesia.
May Allah reward Yasir Qadhi for his efforts and may Allah protect him against the slander of the people who slander Ulama!
Amazing lecture, I could have listened to it for hours more. May Allah almighty bless you and your loved ones and unite us with our beloved Messenger (s) in the world to come.
There is nothing worthy of worship except Allah and those you Call upon other than Him, cannot benefit or harm you and on the Day of Judgment, they will reject your worship of them, so taste the burning Fire for what you disbelieved.
I saw "Najdi dawah" in the title and I knew the shayk was going to be DROPPIN BOMBS in this vid.
Ya shayk this kind of video is what we call "STR8 FIIIRE 🔥🔥🔥"
The best 3 Hours...🔥🔥🔥
Do your work Ya Sheikh !
Let them say whatever they say.
Assalaam Alaykum. Jazaakallahu khairan for this blunt, honest and critical analysis. This movement has created a lot of havoc in the Muslim world. I’m talking from experience. Jazaakallahu khairan million times for discussing it. Every student of knowledge must and should listen to it with open mind. We need this talk. It is long overdue. This movement has done a lot of damage. Saudi billions and trillions have helped the spread of this movement. Jazaakallahu khairan once again.
I agree with you brother. Well said!
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 Subhan'Allah, you are just proving Yasir Qadhi's points by saying this. Allah shows the truth, bro.
If you've listened to the full lecture, do you have an answer to the excerpt from the book of Ibn Taymiyya Rh.A. he just read? Or you'll do takfir of Ibn Taymiyyah Rh.A also, based on the najdi theology?
Stop this hatred, brother. Open your mind and work on getting closer to Allah SWT. Work on your relationship with Him. Focus on your a'amaal. And if you want to do dawah, like really want to do, go focus on the non-muslims (and I don't mean the non-salafies), and give dawah to them.
May Allah help you. Aameen.
@@Abdullah.......... im sure they will argue al haq is not with ibn taymiya and we decide what haq based on what we understand of our tawhid version 😅
Wow what an intellectual and profound discussion that has been changed my paradigm in 180
There is nothing worthy of worship except Allah and those you Call upon other than Him, cannot benefit or harm you and on the Day of Judgment, they will reject your worship of them, so taste the burning Fire for what you disbelieved.
Same
@@millatiibrahim2416 well thats quite an accusation, you got any proof that the brother calls upon other than Allah?
Sheikh, I am not sure if you do read the comments section but I absolutely love and eagerly look forward to every episode of this Library Chat series. Such a fascinating array of topics you cover with a great depth of knowledge and explain it in a simple way so layman like myself can understand. May Allah reward you abundantly. Aameen.
Words cannot describe how much I loved this episode. Barakallahu feek
@9-11 a mossad van bomber plot? Aipac cover up?
And words cannot express how many braincells I lost from your comment
@Yasir Qadhi, assalaamu alaikum everyone, brother Yasir, thank you for uploading this video, with no offence intended whatsoever, please make more of this public, not just to your students but also to the general muslims who watch your stuff on youtube, please. i can imagine that no doubt you will get alot of backlash for doing this because you are questioning and clarifying the status quo, but the truth seems that in fact you are bringing back an understanding that by far pre dates the modern idea of islaam today, and that can only be a good thing. i feel like the religion that i accepted has been hijacked, that i have been duped, mislead and lied to. im a revert/convert, most of the material available to me when i first too shahadah was in english, scared of not following blindly opinions of men, insearch of 'truth' at first i always thought the 'salafi' understanding of islaam as i understood it was the only one based totally on evidence and sound understanding of our texts. Now when i question things i am labelled either as a kaafir, or mubtadi? and told, 'you dont know more than the sahaabah, and we (salafi) follow that understanding. this has given me so much turbulence and shaken my emaan to the core if im honest, and makes me feel like a closet munafiq for having questions and not agreeing with the pack mentality. i have seen families divided, fathers disowning their children, people happy to partake in 'helping' the oppressed in other countries leaving behind elderly parents, children and a wife..... i can go on but i know you understand.... My point and request is that you try to help so many like me by uploading more videos that take a deep dive into this.
A question for you my brother, after understanding what you have mentioned in this video, where do i go from here? where do i get a proper balanced understanding from? should i look into salafi videos and texts? or hanafi? maaliki? etc...
we're in a crisis bro, some of us are losing our faith....
thank you once again, sorry for making this such a long comment guys.....
May Allah cause good to reach you wherever you are and to us all, ameen..
lol btw, subbed and subscribed, keep them coming inshallah. respect for breaking from the pack mentality and coming out online, helps more people than you realise, let the hater hate and the blamer blame, Allah preserve you.
salaamz
Brother please get in touch and I will provide some solutions as options for you. All I ask is that you hear me out . Always keep an open mind and hear everyone out. You can always say no .
بارك الله فيك وجزاك الله خير الجزاء
It is this caliber of scholarship that inspires one to seek knowledge in improving ourselves before pointing out the fault of others and laying blame to everything else, that encourages the attitude of gratitude and humility to a sapling student. Thank you, may you earn reward upon reward for the millions that you have benefitted and your scales weigh heavy for the psychological mindset change that you are imparting.
Salaam from Nottingham Uk
People shouldn’t take everything literally when scholars say anything or present their opinion we should use our brains what Allah SWT has blessed us with and take what is good and leave what we don’t agree with and don’t jump on the bandwagon of refuters who don’t have anything positive to teach themselves and all they do is make videos of refutations. I don’t waste my time listening to them I rather learn something about Islam and think about implementing it in my own life. May Allah SWT guide us all and forgive everyone who makes mistakes Ameen
Walaykum assalaam from Nottingham Uk also
Salaams from across the Trent bridge. ;)
@@saracentiano Wa alaykumi ssalam frm Philippines...
Thank you Dear Dr Yasir Qadhi to debunk the narrow and false interpretation of najdi theology in understanding the concept of tawheed and shirk! May Allah help you Ameen!
SubhanAllah,he takes so much time to explain why this video,the humility ma sha Allah
May Allah grant you all you desire sheikh
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 no trees in najd aka Arabia deserta
stop deluding yourself &justifying the unjustifiable the wahhabi move is khawarij a heresy &a cancer in the body of Islam
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 miaw was from al yamamah just like musaylimah al kadhab funny how history repeats itself
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 defending himself from¿?&yet he was the antagonist
Thank you brother, wisdom comes with time, when we are young, as well as positives, there are also negatives.
I didn’t follow this ideology but I felt like was drowning in it. Seeing so many people follow it, it was tempting to believe it was authentic. When they criticized you I believed them without watching your videos in context. I’m sorry
Edit: I feel like a weight has been lifted alhamdullilah
This guy has knowledge but low iq remember this. I know who this guy is, following him a long time, when it comes to study deeply a topic he will give ideas from only one angle not from all possible angles this is his problem. So beware when you follow him.
@@kntz8234 What? 😂 Yasir Qadhi always tries to give many opinions (angles)
@@kntz8234 maybe but it’s seems like he puts the love of his religion first not his hatred for other people or groups. It feels like a breath of fresh air
@@kntz8234 Allah yahdik
@@s-a6202May Allah guide you
I feel better after knowing that the muslims of the subcontinent will be in Jannah.
Alhamdulillah ❤️.
Insha'Allah. Always say Insha'Allah my brother.
This is the most enlighting lecture i have heard in many years.may allah preserve this type of scholars and keep away young people from the internet from making dwah about such matters
Very detailed and academic explanation! Jazakallah khayr! May Allah Bless Shaykh Yasir, keep him steadfast on the Deen, increase him in knowledge, understanding of the Deen and in worship of Allah, grant him sincerity of intention and grant him and his family and teachers Jannathul Firdaus. And may Allah allow us to continue benefiting from his knowledge and wisdom.
There is nothing worthy of worship except Allah and those you Call upon other than Him, cannot benefit or harm you and on the Day of Judgment, they will reject your worship of them, so taste the burning Fire for what you disbelieved.
@@millatiibrahim2416 Mashallah brother. May Allah SWT preserve the Sheikh and allow him to continue to spread the truth.
@@millatiibrahim2416 May Allah guide you to the truth to which you are confused over. Inshallah.
I thoroughly enjoyed the talk what an eye opening knowledge and words of wisdom Mashallah May Allah SWT reward you abundantly and bless you and everyone of us with the right knowledge and understanding of Islam and unite us all and Allah SWT is the only Judge of who is right and wrong.
There is nothing worthy of worship except Allah and those you Call upon other than Him, cannot benefit or harm you and on the Day of Judgment, they will reject your worship of them, so taste the burning Fire for what you disbelieved.
May Allah bless Dr Yasir Qadhi
May Allaah reward you with the very best for your best efforts, deeds, etc. May He rectify you and us all. About 13-15 years ago, I attempted this kind of overhauling and was too scared to proceed. I then slowed down on it as I see it heading your way and conclusion. Our scholars are dear, yet the Truth should be dearer! This video and the one on the reality of bid'ah really resonate. Your concluding words and remarks really deserve a special place in the annals of responses to Neo-Salafism and many other sectarian conflicts in our Ummah. It reminds me of some words I read attributed Sheikh Muhammad Ilyaas Al-Kandahlawi-rahimahullaah-the great daa'ee popular with Jamaa'tud-Da'wah Wat-Tableegh that he was asked about the "saved group" and he answered,"The one working on saving the rest!" Though I disagree with some of your "re-readings and new views and practices on Islamic issues",yet I wish you the very best and Allaah's guidance and Ikhlaas,all the way till we all meet in Jannah!
(Shaikh Dr Yasir Qadhi )
Love from Afghanistan
wallahi your THE GOAT(great of all time) shaykh Yasir ! may allah reward you
LOL!
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By far the best lecture I have ever heard. Very condensed, yet very valuable and eye opening. Sectarianism can breed fanaticism and blind faith. Remove the blinders, insha'Allah the knowledge will overflow and enhance us spiritually. May Allah reward you immensely ya Shaykh, in Dunya and especially in Akhirah. Salaam from Indonesia.
Hopefully this wakes up those that are adamant on the najdee movement especially students from jamiyah islamiyyah of madinah munawwarah
We should call towards taqleed of salaf and not of someone who came in the 18th century
This is a very balanced academic response to Sheykh Yasir ua-cam.com/video/TfzRv8zvQqI/v-deo.html
Jzk Sh Yasir for sharing your perspective and studies. The salafi dawah had good and bad. However, its exaggerated and sometimes slanderous attacks of other muslim groups and scholars caused much division and fanaticism of its youth. An observer would clealry see that its spread was fueled by the Saudi petro dollar which has dried up alhamdulillah. So just as we are coming up on peak oil, we have already crossed peak salafism. InshaAllah in 10 years itll be history. The danger now is the other strand of state sponsored liberal and passivist movements gaining much momentum. May Allah guide the ummah to the straight and middle path.
May Allah preserve you dear brother. You are now like our past orthodox and traditional ulema. Inclusive with muslims, loving your fellow human beings, and guarding the religion from evil innovations and practice against both extremes, like progressives and takfiri-ideologies.
Ameen!
@9-11 a mossad van bomber plot? Aipac cover up? miaw was a munafiq dog of hell
I wish and hope and appeal to Dr. Qadhi to go one step further in his analysis of Najd movement. It would be interesting to know the role of the foreign powers such as British colonialism towards supporting the grow of this movement. I came across some ugly pictures of what went on including shedding blood of fellow Muslims, expelling them from that region with the help of British power.
Here watch this video in regards to that
ua-cam.com/video/6p_Ek2pDGRU/v-deo.html
This is a very balanced academic response to Sheykh Yasir ua-cam.com/video/TfzRv8zvQqI/v-deo.html
MIAW was clearly a spy and stooge of British colonialism
It's nice to see a well known Najdi scholar to relate history as it is.
To speak about Ibn Abdul Wahab and his atrocities to salafi brothers is normally a very difficult task as they have a pristine view of him that doesn't exist..
The vast do not even know the very first people who were against his ideas are his father and brother who is mentioned in this lecture.
The book "notions that must be corrected" by Muhammed ibn
alawi al maliki al Makki, is a must read for salafi / najdi brothers.
There was a reason why Abdul Wahabs brother called for his execution.
Tq Sheikh YQ.. our ummah needs you to fight fanatism. Luv from Malaysia.
If billion and trillions of Saudi government wasn’t spent to spread this message of extremism, the movement would have died down
"A Believer" using "ifs" and "would haves"..? Hmm..
@Trolling-The-Truth Sharh-Us-Sunnah was not written by Imam Al-Barbahari. It should be very clear by now.
@Ali Muhammad Fight back obviously
@@encikharith Allah Himself used such words in the Quran. This isn't a denial of Qadr unless you persist in thinking such thoughts of what if
@@aismail8321May Allah guide you
How is this even possible! I slept reading books and listening to videos about the History of Formation of Saudi Arabia and the movement....!! And here you come!
Last week I was studying Mu'tazila's history and you came up with Jahmiyya!
SunhanAllah!
May Allah bless Shaykh Yasir Qadhi for his efforts!
YQ has a very remarkable ability to cut through a lot of the fluff and get into the really juicey, authentic and interesting bits of history.
I don't mean to sound too disparaging to preachers that intend their lectures for a less academic audience, but for me - they're a bit like a buffet while YQ is a five course meal.
(I realize some will take offense to me treating ilm as if it's a fun hobby)
@@arshaanfur I take it you are a connoisseur of knowledge... ;) May Allah subhana ta'ala bless you....
Wow ... great thinking.
I start to think again. May Allah increase your knowledge.
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543
Keep remember الشريعة للحياة
This is a very balanced academic response to Sheykh Yasir ua-cam.com/video/TfzRv8zvQqI/v-deo.html
3. 5 hrs speech YQ politely disagree with old Position but he never say anything bad about critics rather praising them.. But look
The way opponents refute him it show us how honest he is..👍
If u don't follow their path they will call u kafir, munafiq...etc
Prophetﷺ Said “If a man addresses his brother as, ‘O’ Disbeliever,’ it returns to one of them; either it is as he said or it returns to him" (Bukhari)
@Nishad Alam Forget about them. Their example is of an idiot who spits at the stars. Only to find his spit falling back on his face.
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 Bro. Come on. Don't tell me you do not even understand sarcasm now. Ofcourse Omar would fail the test that you guys would give him. He's criticizing the excessive literary and harsh strictness of Salafis. Omar r.a. was a walking, talking representative of imaan. He was not infallible or had imaan al ghaib like the Shias say about their imams. He wouldn't have had your 'MAN MADE' ideas of Aqeeda and imaan. He would not have even thought about that.
Have you heard Shaikh YQ's lecture on him? The adab, the izzah that he gives him... SubhanAllah...
@@MM-mc8hs Why you jumping in here you ahmaq?
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 Sarcasm escapes you brother. Are all Salafis this daft? How can sarcasm be misleading? He is sarcastic against the excessive obsession on technicalities and wordings and the very reaction proved that the point is in the pudding.
@@saracentiano Your speech is rude and reflective of your beliefs. You've called one person ahmaq and another daft.
Just finished three and half hours lectures. All I can say is Wao!!! May Allah bless you with more knowledge . You are indeed a blessing for English speaking Muslims. Can you please make series on development of Hanafi Aqidah or Fiqh.
Dr. Yasir Qadhi, jzk for the lecture. I heard all of it and I agree that we should look at issues from the other's perspective and without any sort of emotional attachments so that we do not read things into it in order to be objective. I follow this model now as well and whenever I hear those within the Sunni paradigm who disagree with me, I try my best to hear them out and be charitable as possible to their position and will even consider them being right and me wrong when hearing their position. I think this is the best way to be objective and really listen. I now only listen for consistency in thought and how they developed their position.
Having said that, I would really like your take on something you mentioned in the talk. When it comes to things which are EXCLUSIVE for Allah (forgiving sins, granting a child, healing, providing rain, etc.), would it be shirk for someone to believe that a wali or prophet could DO this at will BECAUSE Allah has granted this wali or prophet the power to do it? If no, then can we have some examples of reputable sunni scholars who have EXPLICITLY said that it is NOT shirk? Most arguments that deal with istighatha from even among Sufis relate to shafa'ah and request for supplications. Even Tahirul Qadri in one of his lectures argues from the position that calling out directly to the Prophet (pbuh) for a need is just majazi and it is Allah who does it. You gave the example of Eesa but I have trouble accepting that as a basis for its possibility because Eesa was restricted and did not have open license to resurrect/heal whomever he wanted whenever he wanted. It was just for restricted instances from what I understand to prove a point that he is indeed Allah's messenger. Wasn't the whole point of such a miracle to show the people that ONLY ALLAH can do such things so this guy HAS to be a true prophet. I don't see this as sufficient evidence to say 'well if we can believe it can happen with eesa, then one can believe it can happen with any saint without us considering it shirk'. Yes, I understand that you consider the practice a bid'ah but just trying to understand your negation of shirk in this instance.
Also, how much can we stretch this? What if an ignorant Muslim believes that there is a cow that Allah has granted power to heal at will and so he begins to call out to this cow to heal him when he is sick. Would it not be shirk as long as the caller believes that it is Allah who has granted this cow such a power? What about if someone believes Allah has given a particular entity all divine powers to do as it please at will, can the caller come out of shirk as long as he believes it is Allah who has given such an entity such powers? What I mean is that is there any limit to this concept or no?
Everything you said makes sense in the context of shaf'ah and request for supplications but I'm finding it difficult to reconcile it with the case of actions considered exclusive to Allah mentioned above.
I'm genuinely curious and open to correcting any misunderstandings on the subject from my side.
Jzk.
I had the exact same doubt while listening to this lecture... To what extent... Even if the supplication is done believing that Allah is the one who has bestowed the entity the power, what is that boundary or the red line which would make the act shirk?
agree 100%. how far do you stretch this. the cow example is spot on. do we in our love for ummah and not judging anyone, not even question that, and say as long as intention is correct, its not shirk?
Okay, wanted to ask you. What do you mean to what extent we limit this?
You mean when it stops becoming haraam and begins to be shirk? Shaikh YQ has told that it is based on niyyah, on intention. When the person believes that the deceased actually has powers independent of Allah.
Most Brelwis do not believe that. Most believe that the deceased are not independent of Allah. They believe they are close to Allah.
But even then Shaikh YQ says this is haraam. So why would you call it shirk? Wouldn't shirk be associating partners with Allah? Like actual smaller Gods or deities?
@@saracentiano There are some holes in the theory that it is ONLY shirk when the called entity is thought to have some power independent of Allah. Here is an article that argues against this position. It is a summary of Sh. Umayri's book. This is the same Umayri that Dr. YQ said in this video has some points that need to be responded to. I'd advise everyone to read it. BTW Sh. Umayri does NOT like Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab either:
bassamzawadi.medium.com/defining-ibadah-6682e7abaf87
@@rameezabid356 Okay. Did you ever ask help from someone? Ever? Like an alive person. Like did you ask him, brother help me I need help in studies, money, moving house etc etc.
Why wouldn't that be shirk?
Allahu Akbar Allahu Akbar... (Emotional)😢😢😢😢 One of the best lecture I have... May Allah give all of us Iman and taqwa... Thank you Yasir qadhi.. from Malaysia..
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Make complete sense. One must be quite arrogant to think that Allah guided only him and the ones that think like him.
These are legitimate differences. The Dhanni text keeps room for multiple interpretation.
Indeed!
Me being Bareilwi right from my childhood I know how much shirk goes on and no book but quran is the one which opposes this yes considering everyone with rigidness is not the right attitude but keeping the basic principles intact is the true essence of Islam and every accommodation for further things comes after that
Theses library chat really beneficial ,really humbled me and I learnt How much i dont know thinking I knew about things,Thanks Yq ,this help to appreciate deep knowledge instead of just surface ilm.
We need more library chat.
Enough love and respect for you sheikh ..... from Bangladesh
@@MM-mc8hs I bet you have not even heard the lecture but just commented, he mentions that he believed it to be haram not shirk, he is not promoting Shirk.
@@MM-mc8hs Dude, I am sorry but my intention is not to belittle you, he just explained it that they are not giving the idol an independent rububiyat, so when a sahabi asked prophet S.W.T to be his companion on jannat, does that make him a Kafer, if you have not listened to watched the watch it and Quran says “To be just” he is not giving fatwa that Istigatha to grave is halal he is simply saying that it is haram and open doors for shirk but not shirk. I believe you are either lying that you have watched the video or you did not understand, I still personally consider this to be shirk to be on the safe side but just be just and listen to what he has to say!
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Usefull! Berakallah! I have read some of comments and got happy seeing listeners understanding 🌹
Subhanallah what profound one needs to have open mind to understand, I guess this beyond understanding much of new salafi students
Assalamoualaikum ya sheikh. I just want you to know although you are not free from mistakes like the rest of us, I love you for the sake of Allah despite the hate that is thrown towards you because of your efforts in speaking the truth and being unbiased in light of the way of the salaf, scholars, and the sunnah of the prophet peace and blessings be upon him. I ask Allah to guide me and you to that which is correct and to be pleased with us in this life and the next.
A very heartfelt, honest reflection followed by genuine request. May Allah, Al Hadi-guide us all. Ameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen
Basically stated:
Those that do such things & are Muslim, they have carried out actions that are Haram. Unless, they actually believe that these 'idols' have the power/divinity to grant. In which case this would be shirk.
Najdi view point: Any that approach other than Allah seeking assistance, have committed shirk & as such have left Islam.
So fundamentally the argurement is over whether this is shirk or haram. What is the difference between a Muslim that states this is haram & one that states this is shirk?
One that has committed shirk according to some can never be forgiven.
Someone who has committed a haram action still has the hope of Allah's Mercy, access to Allah's Mercy is still there.
If, 90% of all Muslims do such things then in accordance to those that assert that this is shirk: that 90% cannot be forgiven. If that is the case then how should one live out the rest oh his or her days & years of life if one committed shirk?
Allah knows best!
Wisdom is the appropriate application of knowledge.
May Allah guide us all. Ameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen
Wisdom
Thank you very much, you have helped me a lot in many things. I am learning from you for years, Mashallah, Zazakallah Kairan. May Allah gift you Jannattul Ferdaus. What we hear on UA-cam right now, without an explanation, we will get scared and possibly think badly of you. Of course, each of us knows what is right and what is wrong. Allah put that in us. But to be a true Muslim we have to be able judge from all sides.
When I got into Islam, I was very strict with myself and with others. May Allah gift us peace and bring us all together in Jannat. Zazakallah Kairan, Assalamuailakum.
May Allah bless you Sh Yasir and guide you to that which He ﷻ loves
MashaAllah. Tabarakallahu fik ya sheikh. May Allah swt bless you! Lots of love and respect from Poland! We have huge problem with Najdis here.
how many polish muslims are there brother?
i think all the believers in the world have problem with najdis and it a test from ALLAH FOR THE BELIEVERS
@@zakbey3883 its hard to estimate bcs overwhelming majority of them are foreigners so they are not included in the statistics regarding polish citizens. But the common estimation is between 40-60 thousands. What I mean about najdis is that unfortunately we dont have a big traditional scholars here speaking fluent polish. And converts who pursued any formal studies are mainly influenced/centered by Saudis/Yemeni wahhabies.
@@szymonfandrejewski7984 i see, but if you speak english we have great english speaking scholars
may allah bless you and strengthen your imaan all Muslims in poland
Yeah I am tired of them. And I see them everywhere for some reason, trying to superimpose their OPINION as if it's a consensus. Also they're very intolerant and self-righteous, it makes me sick (not all of them of course)