It was mentioned briefly in one of the movies but apparently jack sparrow was branded a pirate by the east india trading company when he freed a ship full of slaves. As punishment, they burnt his ship, which at the time was called the Wicked Wench. To aviod death and save his ship Jack made that deal with Davy Jones and the Wicked Wench became the black pearl. This would be the perfect movie. Why on earth did they do the fountain of youth when they could do a prequal showing Jack's backstory. That movie would be great.
+SugarVelvet Can you be more specific? I really don't remember much being said about Jack's backstory. Are there any deleted scenes or such? Because all I remember is the story about how he was betrayed by his crew and then escaped from the island with "sea turtles". And that was in the first movie.
+Panthera Only the logo of East India Trading Company burnt on Jack's arm is shown at some point. The rest of that backstory was told elsewhere. I believe there's a book called "The Price of Freedom", which tells the full extent of that origin story.
+melo13melo As +Kristjan Kangro mentioned I think that was in a book, not hinted in the 2nd or 3rd sequel. I pretty much understand most of the PotC story, movie perspective that is, but i don't remember hearing that at all.
+Panthera In the scene where the East India Company guy (they can't possibly expect me to remember everyone's name) takes Jack on board his ship to convince him to rat out the other pirates, they cut some dialogue. EIC guy says that Jack still owes him because he had hired Jack years ago do deliver a shipment of cargo to Jamaica, and Jack "liberated the shipment." Jack replies, nonchalantly, "People aren't cargo." Why the hell did they cut that? It was too dark? They hanged a kid at the beginning! It's one line and it gives this incredible new dimension to Jack's character. All his drunken rambling about freedom actually means something now! But no, we need cut that and add scenes Jack talks to an entire ship of Jacks!
@@RED-RAMBLING No probably about it! The first two were good, 3 was very, VERY flawed but at least was memorable and epic and was a fitting finale. 4 and 5 were completely pointless!
I like it as a trilogy. I enjoy the light hearted first one, the universe building second one, and the dark epic of the third one. But the fourth one is just a ripoff of a book called Stranger Tides which has nothing to do with Pirates of the Caribbean characters.
I never thought any of the sequels were that complicated. I understood them clearly and enjoyed them from beginning to end, especially At World's End. But I will agree that Curse of the Black Pearl is the best out of the four movies.
+Jack Stevenson Yeah. "Curse of the Black Pearl" was a big game-changer for me. It's the only movie where I saw it once in the afternoon with just my brother, and then told my Dad when he got home from work "this-movie-is-so-awesome-we-have-to-go-see-it-again-tonight!!!" And it was still amazing the second time. Just amazing fun. It was inspired for me. Though I am willing to admit that I may have the nostalgia working overtime for these movies. For all its flaws (I agree with 90% of what Doug said), I still enjoy all the films. Definitely imperfect, but I have so much fun. \(^v^)/
+Jack Stevenson for me since i watch the movies as a kid i did have trouble following the story and i felt since this movie was marketed for kids it should of been tone down with some of the side plots.
What people seems to forget is that Jack Sparrow was never the center of the story. Elisabeth and Will was. The problem with the 4 and 5 (besides being awful by nature) is that Jack Sparrow is too much center stage, and is overstating his welcome really quickly. I love 2 and 3 alone because of Davy Jones.. such a brilliant and unique villain.
I like Pirates of the Caribbean The Curse of the Black Pearl, Pirates of the Caribbean Dead Man’s Chest and Pirates of the Caribbean At World’s End more than Pirates of the Caribbean On Stranger Tides and Pirates of the Caribbean Salazar’s Revenge.
...Is Doug just unable to comprehend complex plots? He also said the same thing about the Star Wars prequels, saying he couldn't follow those political aspects. And personally, I could follow both of them just fine. Is it just me then? It's fine if he can't or something, but...I dunno, that's just a rather strange argument to make imo.
Cosmas Dexie Sure thing: Long story short: Senator Palpatine wanted the position of Chancellor so that he could put his plan of creating a galactic empire into motion. The entirety of the invasion of Naboo was merely to serve the purpose of embarrassing Chancellor Valorum and taking over his seat. Palpatine had the Trade Federation invade Naboo since that's the planet he was a Senator of. He then pressures the viceroy, Nute Gunray, into forcing Queen Amidala to sign a treaty that would make the invasion seem legal but very obviously questionable and suspicious. By doing this, he put himself into a win-win situation. If the Trade Federation fails and the Queen escapes, as she did, then he can call for a "no-confidence" vote in the Senate. If he does that, he knows that he is a powerful contender for the seat of Chancellor. However, if the Trade Federation succeeds, Palpatine is able to use that treaty to weaken Chancellor Valorum's position and help build a platform for himself, since he would be fighting against such an injustice while Valorum is letting it slide.
There's going to be another sequel in 2017 called Dead Men Tell No Tales and, apparently, Orlando Bloom is returning. They gave us some detail about it at the D23 Expo. I'm actually kind of looking forward to it.
+Garry Courtney Well, he can only set foot on land every 10 years. However, since a good portion of the films take place in the open ocean, then I think him appearing at any time would still be fair game. :P
+BCkhaos My biggest problem with number 3 is how it throws all these shifting alliances and sort of betrayals at you that don't really matter in the end considering how in the end everyone is pretty much back to where they started in terms of sides.
I like Dead Man's Chest and At World's End as much, if not more, than Curse of the Black Pearl. I never got why critics don't like them. They are visualy stunning, the action is great, the sets, costumes, make-up and cgi are spectacular, they're so epic, fun and creative, the soundtrack is one of the best of the 21st century and even though the jokes aren't as good as in the 1st one, they're funnier than the 4th or the 5th one . I can't understand not liking them because they are too complex, epic,dramatic, have too many characters and too many betrayals, like, the same thing applies for masterpieces like reservoir dogs, 12 angry men, the h8ful 8, inglorious basterds, lord of the rings, game of thrones etc. I'm not saying Pirates 2 and 3 are as good as these movies/ tv shows, they're not even close. But I just can't get why people don't like them. If you stop comparing them to the original and actualy be subjective then you will love them. The 4th one did suck though, and the 5th one, while an improvement over 4, wasn't realy good.
I couldn't agree more! I always as a kid would want to watch the second and the third movie I always found the first one to be kind of boring I probably watched the second in the third movies a thousand times no joke I loved them that much! Great comment!
+ChristianMetalFan100 yeah it was awful ..except the last fight with the amazing visuals.. imo even stranger tides was a better movie ,,look at rotten tomatoes ,,all the sequels were bad ,,im not alone
man if you really like the sequels ,there is no problem with me at all,,i also love cars even though the second sucked,,and i know the majority hate those movies..
+ChristianMetalFan100 Right here. That movie was so fucking long. An hour and a half of plot stretched to three hours. Hell the second movie does the same thing, but not as much.
@@shelobthegreat4374 He started his acting career 2000, but he is actually younger than Orlando Bloom, so he wouldn't have been a good choice for Bootstrap.
I love how weird Worlds End is. All the bizarre stuff with the crabs and the other Jacks inside Jacks mind. Admittedly the film feels a bit too long but I don’t get why it’s considered bad, I’ve always liked it.
My opinions on each: Dead Man’s Chest shines with the Kraken and Davy Jones. At World’s End is only good in that battle of the maelstrom Calypso causes. On Stranger Tides is only saved by Blackbeard. ………Salazar’s intro was cool.
To me, there's something good in each of the films, no matter how bad they can get. The first one is a classic. The 2nd one has a pretty cool villain. The 3rd one has a great climax. The 4th is just ok to me. The 5th one seems kind of like a decent closure to the series. It's a series that, no matter how stupid it can get, I'll always enjoy looking back at them. Also, I felt like the pirates meant that Will looked like his father when his dad was younger.
Here’s the problem I have with you Doug, you expect a lot of movies that look simple to stay simple, the third movie is my favorite and my second favorite is the 4th, because at the end of each plot point, there was something new to pay attention to. Also the argument that finding the fountain of youth is as simple as a skip and a hop falls right on its face when you consider that it would make sense that something as sacred as the fountain of youth can’t just be used by any glass or metal cups you find.
NaomiBlackCovers no I love them too but on different degrees. Personally, I love both Deadman's Chest and On Stranger Tides well At Worlds End was my least favorite.
The problem was people wanted to be nothing but swashbuckling action for 90 minutes, when it tries to show character development. This guy took it further hating the opening scene where a little boy gets hanged, saying "It's Pirates of the Caribbean not Schindler's List!", how is that a criticism?
Dead man's chest was my favourite because it had the best jokes and it rounded up Jack's character. But yeah, all the Keira and Orlando bullshit was unnecessary. "Can't Jack Sparrow just go look for some treasure?" was the best line, ever. :)
Pirates 2: Just as good as the first one, i would say even better. Pirates 3: The first 2 hours are BORING AS FUCK but everything you have to sit through it kinda pays off once you get to the climax, THAT FINAL BATTLE WAS ABSOLUTY FUCKING AWESOME, PERFECT MIX OF COMEDY AND DRAMA. Pirates 4: Honestly i don't remember a lot of this one, is the most forgettable. The only thing remember is that i laught A LOT when i saw it, i would say is the funniest of the franchise, it had really good jokes in it. I enjoyed all of them (the first two more than the last two) and i'm looking forward to the fifth one
What you call "complicated plotline" is the magic of these films. I understand they don't work for everyone but they definitely DID WORK for me and many other people. The second one was more dramatic, epic, funny and had a better villain than the first one. A clear improvement. I understand why you would call the third one complicated, but I think it's a beautiful movie. It's still one of my favorites of all time. And all thanks to that specific mysterious magic that these movies have. They know how to be both dark and funny.
No one likes the sequels for their plot, they just like seeing Jack and the action and jokes, also while Davy Joans is a cool villain, Barbossa is better.
@@thelastcrow5660 Better plot??? lol you haven’t paid that close attention to the plots, if you did you’d know the plot inconsistencies and goofy additions that are in Dead Mans Chest, Curse Of The Black Pearl is very focused while being very entertaining, it’s also the funnier movie, also Barbossa is the better villain, both of them are good but Barbossa is more entertaining and more memorable.
@@Bob-qq7bt More memorable than Davy Jones? Yeah, right! Davy Jones is the soul reason the movie won it's Oscar. He is more complex in terms of appearance and personality. By far the best villain of the franchise. DMC has better action scenes, the music is better utilized and the crew of the Flying Dutchman is far more interesting than the cutthroats from the Pearl. I don't really know what plot inconsistencies you're talking about. In terms of plot structure, COTBP is all over the place. The characters are acted well but there is no greater emphasis on the curse or the plot. It's just a bunch of running around. In DMC the plot focuses on one goal, the heart, which ties it all together. Every character has the same goal but for different reasons. Potc 1 is a good movie, but not that great of an adventure movie. Potc 2 beats it down with barely any effort.
Two things, Douggie boy: A) At the time the films were set (viz. the eighteenth century) it was perfectly acceptable and commonplace to hang underage people. B) The “pirate song or some crap like that” is based on the urban legend that Blackbeard used the nursery rhyme “Sing a Song of Sixpence” in order to recruit crew members.
My dad loved these movies. He listened to the soundtrack in his pickup and even got the skull with crossed swords and head scarf tattooed on his chest.
The last act/action sequence of the third film is a fucking masterpiece of "action set piece" at its best! The effects, the score, the stakes - this was endgame before endgame lol
Will and Elizabeth are the main characters!!! Of course their in the movie!!! Jack is the side character/comedic relief. That's what make the first movie work, unfortunately the sequel kind of forgot that and tried to make Jack the main character.
@@Legend-vm9uv Yes you are right about that, but I just feel like the first 3 movies are more Will and Elizabeth's story, the plot tends to revolve around them rescuing each other. From a quick Google search about Jack, I came across the this result (which I'll link at the bottom of the comment), and I think they put it quite nicely: "To be short, he's a protagonist but his screen time is less than the other characters. And also, in every Pirates of the Caribbean movie, it's like there is a whole different "arc" for each movie, and it doesn't revolve around "main Jack Sparrow arc" or something like that. I feel like Jack Sparrow is more of a side character but his presence has a huge impact on each movie arc. And the audience is always waiting for Jack Sparrow to come, even though there is an ongoing story parallel to whatever Jack is doing" writing.stackexchange.com/questions/38986/what-kind-of-protagonist-or-writing-style-is-jack-sparrow#:~:text=To%20be%20short%2C%20he's%20a,arc%22%20or%20something%20like%20that.
I feel like I'm the only one who likes On Stranger Tides. I like it mostly because they got rid of Orlando Bloom and Keira Knightly and kept the focus on Jack Sparrow. Sure it's not as good as The Curs of the Black Pearl but I still enjoyed it more than the 2nd and 3rd movie.
Yeah, I thought _On Stranger Tides_ was an OK film. I kinda enjoyed it. Personally, I think none of the sequels were anywhere near as good as the 1st film. _Curse of The Black Pearl_ was a legitimately great film, but...maybe it was a one-off thing that can't be repeated..? I dunno. I just hope the upcoming movie won't be as _bloated_ as the other sequels were....
Paradox Acres I agree 100% with everything you just said. I really hope the 5th movie will at least be a fun time at the theater. Just give me pirates doing what pirates do best.
Jonathan Tefft I know what you mean. Almost nobody wants a dark, "complex" _Pirates_ movie so I really hope the upcoming 5th movie knows that and just sincerely try to entertain the audience.
+Jonathan Tefft I agree there was some good moments in Stranger Tides particularly the actual finding of the Fountain of youth scene. However the majority of the film was pretty mediocre and underwhelming. The mermaid attack scene was cool and (Ian Mcshane?) as Blackbeard was not bad. its all opinion though.
Actually, I have my own theory as to why the sequels are the way they are. They're not trying to cash in on Star Wars or Lord of the Rings' length (though there's no denying that such a possibility is equally as real), but instead cash in on the *actual* pirate epic from Japan: One Piece. Now I mainly speak of the Japanese version since the third film debuted I think before Funimation came along and made up for 4Kids' sins, and to an extent it makes sense. Both series try to be as big as possible when it comes to their stories and their characters can be so deliciously over-the-top (though in both cases that's to varying degrees of effect). But there's one big difference that makes one better than the other: With One Piece, it makes sense that it'd be built up into something epic, the entire series revolves around one straw hat wearing kid's quest to find a legendary treasure while fighting insurmountable odds along the way; and it built up its conflicts accordingly through world building of just how the franchise is supposed to function. Does the anime sometimes take longer than it should? Yes, but it also makes sure that you're given unique ideas for said world-building in doing so. Not so much with Pirates.
I'm glad to see not everyone is sucking up to dougs thoughts. It's great to see people express how they feel about the sequels. Dead man's chest is my favorite, and as much as I respect dougs thoughts, I feel he didn't get into the lore. Personally I think that's actually what makes up these great movies! Anyway that's all, thanks for reading :)
And the guy who directed Pirates of Caribbean 1-3 Worked on The Ring ,A cure for wellness , Rango and so many more good flicks just give him some credit for trying
That scene fairly early on in the second film when that one guy in the cage gets his eyes pecked out by crows on screen. WHAT THE ACTUAL UNLIVNG HELL DISNEY?!?!
The movies are not that complicated if you pay attention, and I personally love them. Except the fourth one. The fourth one was boring and I remember nothing about it other than the romance between that dude and the mermaid. I really hope Will and Elizabeth make an appearance in the next sequel because if you ask me they were the ones driving the story. Even if their story is over, they're still pirates. Or their son could run into Jack or something.
Also am I the only one who thinks these movies would have made great novels? That's part of why I liked them. And a complicated plot probably would have worked better in written form anyway.
00ammy00 The problem with 4th is that they didn't brought back Gore Verbinski, and you can easily tell that it has a hell of a different vibe compared to the first three that you don't need to know that a director was changed
I've never seen the first movie as just a comedy. It felt much more interesting than that, and the sequels expanded it (the 4th doesn't really connect, but the 5th is pretty fine). I liked how they were realist about the atmosphere, with the betrayls, power games, the misery, the laws... that's why I loved that openning scene with the hanging boy. It broke my heart but also set the mood for the film...which, though filled with magic, is still close to History books. I like when they go one step beyond and I feel there's improvement from the first movie to the last in what concerns the plot and the characters.
I was 10 when i watched all the pirates of the Caribbean sequels and i got all of it eather I'm a weird kid or nostalgia critic cant follow that many plots
Dead Man's Chest was a great sequel,my all-time favorite Pirates movie. At World's End was flawed,but it has it's fair epic moments,The Final Battle was awesome though. On Stranger Tides was meh. And i bet Dead Men Tell No Tales kinda sucks (That's the only Pirates movie i haven't seen).
Personally, I love the first three movies. I think they all make for a good trilogy. I love the complex plotlines, I love the themes, and I love the characters (and the music is great, of course). I wasn't too keen on the fourth, but that's because I thought it was a bit empty and the writing didn't strike me as being all that strong.
"Can't Jack Sparrow just go looking for some treasure?" I love that bit. The simplicity and honesty of that statement just wraps up the whole review in one sentence.
I will never like dead man’s chest as much as I liked At world’s end Just The moment where they are getting married By a pirate captain While swordfighting Fish people commanded by Davy Jones In a whirlpool In the middle of a massive naval battle between a collection of pirates and the east India trading company It just all clicked It was the supernatural Macro pirate world wish fulfillment I wanted. Yeah the first will always be better for having the micro level And I’d say the second is okay (I still cringe pretty hard at the natives, but the action scenes were pretty inventive, But I don’t get why AWE gets so much hate
the internet continues to surprise me about the way many films are received by critics and "most" people. i'm typing it as such because most of people I personally know in real life usually have different reactions than the ones I come across online. then again it's my circle so i guess it's logically more common to have the same taste. anyways point is I loved and was beyond fascinated with the sequels! they are still close to masterpieces of fun-action and comedy to me. also I was in high school when i first saw them and the complexity was something I actually really enjoyed. how everything tied up in the end was wonderful and not at all confusing. really...so weird to hear people have such issues with these films.
I love the first 3 movies, but I barely even remember 4 and 5. Also did he really say that he just wanted pirate action without much story? Is he really incapable of following simple plot points?
It's beyond amazing to see so much support for the third film in the comments after living under a belief me to be the only person on this planet who likes it more than any of the movies.
I think the first one is the greatest of all the POTC saga. That being said... At World's End is my favorite. Far from perfection, too long and leaving a few things in doubt (like the story between Sparrow and Beckett, and what is the nature of the mark Beckett has), but it just has so many good moments (the dialogue between Tia Dalma and Davy Jones, the intro, the Singapour scene, and especially the 20 minutes long climax), that I can't help but excuse all its flaws.
The thing with the movies was that it was originally about Keira Knightly's character's story, but after realizing that Jack Sparrow was a breakthrough, they came at a problem: Keep on with Knightly's character, or move on to Jack?
I don't have enough problem following 3 to love it. And even if the first hour really was complete garbage, it would all be worth it for the final battle. Jack Sparrow and Davy Jones standing on top of the mast sword fighting while the camera circles around them is a shot that's engraved in my memory like no other movie has ever done
The Curse Of The Black Pearl created the best main character in cinema, that being Captain Jack Sparrow. A genius tactician disguised as a blundering drunk fool.The definition of motive someone who always has a reason as to why he does something. Dead Mans Chest had the perfect plot, with each party having their own unique motive as to why they wanted Davy Jones heart. Jack wanted it to bargain with Jones and remove his debt. Will wanted it to kill Jones and release his father. Jones wanted it in order to avoid his death Beckett/Norrington wanted it to rule the seas. These motivations are good because they naturally conflict. Jacks motive requires Jones be alive in order to call the Kraken off his hunt. But Wills motive requires Jones to die. Beckett needs Jones to remain captain as to rule the seas through him. This is the perfect example of stakes, a deadline, each action will affect the film, therefore there isnt a sense of relaxation, its rooted in urgency. At Worlds End created the perfect climactic action sequence, the final battle being one rooted in stakes. Each action had weight. Rather than being a normal battle. It uses a Maelstrom setting. It allows for amazing visuals. It is completely unique, the audience doesnt forget it because it has the glaring uniqueness of a Maelstrom . The second thing it does is keep the audience invested. Everyone has something to do and it means we are invested in their meaningful actions. Sadly, On Stranger Tides creates no sense of urgency, if our hero doesnt get to the Fountain Of Youth, then nothing is shown to happen. Jack is built on motive, but he has forced motive in this film, he is blackmailed which makes no sense because Jack isnt the type to allow a forced motive. And Dead Man Tells No Tales is the worst film, particularly because of Jacks character. We know that Jack Sparrow is a mastermind, a trickster, a genius disguised as an imbecile. But in this film, jack never wins by being smart. His wins are accidental, poeple liked Jack because he could escape inescapable situations because he was that clever. However this film presents him as a drunken oaf that Mr Magoos his way out of every danger, turning the most clever pirate in the Caribbean into a lucky alcoholic. Sad
I really liked Pirates of the Caribbean as a whole. I might be biased because I grew up loving these films but I really love them all (except for the last two)
How would making Jack Sparrow the lead make anything better? He's a side character. Will and Elizabeth were the leads, so bringing them back made complete sense.
While I was aware of the huge faults that the sequels had, I still like them all and I always have fun watching them. But I think the best thing about the sequels is that, if you remember how no one ever really sees how Jack gets out of his predicaments, Barbossa, and old friend/rival of Jack, finally got to watch Jack work his magic in the fourth movie. That was awesome!
I'm completely ignoring the fourth movie here but when talking about the second and the third movie I actually like the fact that they took the time to include more characters and that they bothered to give them back stories, I like that there is some depth to the characters, otherwise I wouldn't be as invested. Although, I do agree that there are too many plots and sometimes the movies would seem to be going nowhere. They are long and sometimes they are hard to follow but once you watch them plenty of times you know what's going to happen so you don't actually have to concentrate so much on understanding the story and you enjoy the character's interactions a lot more. At least that's been my experience with these sequels haha the first was obviously a lot simpler and fun.
Orlando Bloom was a little annoying but Keira Knightly was SOOOOO annoying and way over-used. She was the weakest link in 2 & 3. I thought Pirates 4 was pretty good overall and Penelope Cruz was so much better.
I actually find that despite the problems of Dead Man's Chest and At World's End, both movies did expand on the world of the first film and provided a lot of creativity and fun. Yes the first movie is still the best but those sequels aren't bad movies at all. It was when we got to On Stranger Tides (when Gore Verbinki left the director's chair), that the franchise started to got downhill. Then Dead Men Tell No Tales came out and it officially affirmed that the franchise was dead.
Tbh I think dead mans chest is great but the third one feels like there’s two movies in it that we’re crammed together, it would of been best to split them in to two and have the third movie be about finding jack sparrow (so that when he comes back it doesn’t feel so soon) and about how Davy Jones is doing the east india trading company’s bidding while also have some build up for calypso and who she is and her backstory with Davy Jones, and the ending could be a cliff hanger to the call for the brethren court, then the forth movie can start off with the everyone waking up in Davy Jones locker looking for Jack sparrow, and the whole movie after that can be about the brethren court vs the east india trading company and the Flying Dutchman
Dead Man's Chest is the best sequel, in my opinion. The kraken was awesome.
I take it over Dead Men Tell No Tales any friggin day.
And At World's End wasn't really that bad,atleast the Final Battle was awesome.
@@t.m.83 I think anything was better than Pirates of the Caribbean On Stranger Tides and Pirates of the Caribbean Salazar’s Revenge.
It was mentioned briefly in one of the movies but apparently jack sparrow was branded a pirate by the east india trading company when he freed a ship full of slaves. As punishment, they burnt his ship, which at the time was called the Wicked Wench. To aviod death and save his ship Jack made that deal with Davy Jones and the Wicked Wench became the black pearl. This would be the perfect movie. Why on earth did they do the fountain of youth when they could do a prequal showing Jack's backstory. That movie would be great.
Where the fuck was this mentioned?
+SugarVelvet Can you be more specific? I really don't remember much being said about Jack's backstory. Are there any deleted scenes or such? Because all I remember is the story about how he was betrayed by his crew and then escaped from the island with "sea turtles". And that was in the first movie.
+Panthera Only the logo of East India Trading Company burnt on Jack's arm is shown at some point. The rest of that backstory was told elsewhere. I believe there's a book called "The Price of Freedom", which tells the full extent of that origin story.
+melo13melo As +Kristjan Kangro mentioned I think that was in a book, not hinted in the 2nd or 3rd sequel. I pretty much understand most of the PotC story, movie perspective that is, but i don't remember hearing that at all.
+Panthera In the scene where the East India Company guy (they can't possibly expect me to remember everyone's name) takes Jack on board his ship to convince him to rat out the other pirates, they cut some dialogue. EIC guy says that Jack still owes him because he had hired Jack years ago do deliver a shipment of cargo to Jamaica, and Jack "liberated the shipment." Jack replies, nonchalantly, "People aren't cargo."
Why the hell did they cut that? It was too dark? They hanged a kid at the beginning! It's one line and it gives this incredible new dimension to Jack's character. All his drunken rambling about freedom actually means something now! But no, we need cut that and add scenes Jack talks to an entire ship of Jacks!
I really like Pirates of the Caribbean 3. I haven't seen it in a while, but I always thought it was fun
Danox94 the soundtrack is cool too. I’m a sucker for sea shanties
@@RED-RAMBLING No probably about it! The first two were good, 3 was very, VERY flawed but at least was memorable and epic and was a fitting finale. 4 and 5 were completely pointless!
It's a great movie.
@@cockerpoodles1238 Nah
3 is honestly my favorite. 1 is still awesome, 2 is pretty darn good, but not my favorite, and 4 and 5 can be forgotten
I like it as a trilogy. I enjoy the light hearted first one, the universe building second one, and the dark epic of the third one. But the fourth one is just a ripoff of a book called Stranger Tides which has nothing to do with Pirates of the Caribbean characters.
Rip-off? It's inspired by the book, it's even mentioned in the credits.
@@57yearoldjamesbond Sometimes when people rip-off things, they'll say they were inspired by that thing just to defend themselves.
That’s completely irrelevant, if they bought the rights to make a movie loosely based on the book.
@@WreckingCritter so by that logic, the Harry Potter movies are ripping off the Harry Potter books, right?
I never thought any of the sequels were that complicated. I understood them clearly and enjoyed them from beginning to end, especially At World's End. But I will agree that Curse of the Black Pearl is the best out of the four movies.
+Jack Stevenson Yeah. "Curse of the Black Pearl" was a big game-changer for me. It's the only movie where I saw it once in the afternoon with just my brother, and then told my Dad when he got home from work "this-movie-is-so-awesome-we-have-to-go-see-it-again-tonight!!!" And it was still amazing the second time. Just amazing fun. It was inspired for me. Though I am willing to admit that I may have the nostalgia working overtime for these movies. For all its flaws (I agree with 90% of what Doug said), I still enjoy all the films. Definitely imperfect, but I have so much fun. \(^v^)/
+Jack Stevenson for me since i watch the movies as a kid i did have trouble following the story and i felt since this movie was marketed for kids it should of been tone down with some of the side plots.
+Jack Stevenson Doug seems to think every movie plot is complicated.
+Jack Stevenson i agree with you
+Jack Stevenson Doug doesn't seem to ever understand plots. If you can't sum up the plot in a sentence, his brain can't handle it.
What people seems to forget is that Jack Sparrow was never the center of the story. Elisabeth and Will was.
The problem with the 4 and 5 (besides being awful by nature) is that Jack Sparrow is too much center stage, and is overstating his welcome really quickly.
I love 2 and 3 alone because of Davy Jones.. such a brilliant and unique villain.
Jack became the center of the story once the sequels happened & it’s gotten so tiresome
@@LucyLioness100 2 and 3 were though
I prefer it being focused on Jack Sparrow. He’s charming and funny.
I like Pirates of the Caribbean The Curse of the Black Pearl, Pirates of the Caribbean Dead Man’s Chest and Pirates of the Caribbean At World’s End more than Pirates of the Caribbean On Stranger Tides and Pirates of the Caribbean Salazar’s Revenge.
I personally loved the 3rd one, the 4th.... errrrrrrrrr
+Garry Courtney Same.
Same here
+Garry Courtney the 4th was the most tagged on, money grabbing movie sequel ive seen in my life.
I liked it, but it is very long.
+Garry Courtney
The third movie is my favorite too.
But I can't help but feel like the second movie is the one that dragged on for too long.
...Is Doug just unable to comprehend complex plots? He also said the same thing about the Star Wars prequels, saying he couldn't follow those political aspects. And personally, I could follow both of them just fine. Is it just me then? It's fine if he can't or something, but...I dunno, that's just a rather strange argument to make imo.
Doug can barely comprehend anything let alone politics..He always has to throw in liberal jokes in his reviews they aren't funny and just shameless
If you understood them why don't you explain to me Palpatine's plan in the first prequel and why he wanted that treaty signed.
+NSA Commander Not sure if you're trolling...
Cosmas Dexie I could try but my memory is foggy, What treaty are you talking about?
Cosmas Dexie Sure thing:
Long story short: Senator Palpatine wanted the position of Chancellor so that he could put his plan of creating a galactic empire into motion. The entirety of the invasion of Naboo was merely to serve the purpose of embarrassing Chancellor Valorum and taking over his seat.
Palpatine had the Trade Federation invade Naboo since that's the planet he was a Senator of. He then pressures the viceroy, Nute Gunray, into forcing Queen Amidala to sign a treaty that would make the invasion seem legal but very obviously questionable and suspicious. By doing this, he put himself into a win-win situation.
If the Trade Federation fails and the Queen escapes, as she did, then he can call for a "no-confidence" vote in the Senate. If he does that, he knows that he is a powerful contender for the seat of Chancellor. However, if the Trade Federation succeeds, Palpatine is able to use that treaty to weaken Chancellor Valorum's position and help build a platform for himself, since he would be fighting against such an injustice while Valorum is letting it slide.
I think that Doug just want a short film.
With just sword fight.
doug have trouble understanding anything and he wants to be spoonfed, he constantly complain that movies are not spoonfeeding him
@@TheFalseDragon yea he sucks
There's going to be another sequel in 2017 called Dead Men Tell No Tales and, apparently, Orlando Bloom is returning. They gave us some detail about it at the D23 Expo. I'm actually kind of looking forward to it.
+MegaSoulhero meaning that the film will take place 10 years after the 3rd one then., if they keep to the lore of the series
+Garry Courtney thats true the end credit scene of the 3rd would be the perfect start for the 5th
I hear it's the final movie as well
+Kevin the Cow It was already announced that Bloom is returning.
+Garry Courtney Well, he can only set foot on land every 10 years. However, since a good portion of the films take place in the open ocean, then I think him appearing at any time would still be fair game. :P
I like the 3rd one, but it's so LONG.
I remember in the cinema there was actually an intermission
+scotcheggable Lol are you serious??? wow
+scotcheggable I also saw it in the cinema, twice in two different cinemas, and neither had an intermission. They could have used one though.
+BCkhaos My biggest problem with number 3 is how it throws all these shifting alliances and sort of betrayals at you that don't really matter in the end considering how in the end everyone is pretty much back to where they started in terms of sides.
It was long, but the climax really made up for the rest in my opinion.
I personally think Dead Man's Chest is a masterpiece.
I like Dead Man's Chest and At World's End as much, if not more, than Curse of the Black Pearl. I never got why critics don't like them. They are visualy stunning, the action is great, the sets, costumes, make-up and cgi are spectacular, they're so epic, fun and creative, the soundtrack is one of the best of the 21st century and even though the jokes aren't as good as in the 1st one, they're funnier than the 4th or the 5th one . I can't understand not liking them because they are too complex, epic,dramatic, have too many characters and too many betrayals, like, the same thing applies for masterpieces like reservoir dogs, 12 angry men, the h8ful 8, inglorious basterds, lord of the rings, game of thrones etc. I'm not saying Pirates 2 and 3 are as good as these movies/ tv shows, they're not even close. But I just can't get why people don't like them. If you stop comparing them to the original and actualy be subjective then you will love them.
The 4th one did suck though, and the 5th one, while an improvement over 4, wasn't realy good.
If anything I’d say dead man’s chest has the best plot
I couldn't agree more! I always as a kid would want to watch the second and the third movie I always found the first one to be kind of boring I probably watched the second in the third movies a thousand times no joke I loved them that much! Great comment!
I somehow enjoyed the third sequel.
It's not a matter of somehow you enjoyed it because it's a really good movie!
Don't worry, these guys really overvalue their own opinions.
People said At World's End was awful..... where are these people?
+ChristianMetalFan100 I thought it broke some kind of box office record...
+ChristianMetalFan100 yeah it was awful ..except the last fight with the amazing visuals..
imo even stranger tides was a better movie ,,look at rotten tomatoes ,,all the sequels were bad ,,im not alone
Manos Pattak :) Haha thank you for answering my question.
To each his own. I personally thought it was really good.
man if you really like the sequels ,there is no problem with me at all,,i also love cars even though the second sucked,,and i know the majority hate those movies..
+ChristianMetalFan100 Right here. That movie was so fucking long. An hour and a half of plot stretched to three hours. Hell the second movie does the same thing, but not as much.
They should of had Luke Evans play Bootstap Bill
i think he started acting a few years later
@@shelobthegreat4374 He started his acting career 2000, but he is actually younger than Orlando Bloom, so he wouldn't have been a good choice for Bootstrap.
I love how weird Worlds End is. All the bizarre stuff with the crabs and the other Jacks inside Jacks mind.
Admittedly the film feels a bit too long but I don’t get why it’s considered bad, I’ve always liked it.
My opinions on each:
Dead Man’s Chest shines with the Kraken and Davy Jones.
At World’s End is only good in that battle of the maelstrom Calypso causes.
On Stranger Tides is only saved by Blackbeard.
………Salazar’s intro was cool.
His voice was cool though.
Up is down scene? Brethren court?
To me, there's something good in each of the films, no matter how bad they can get.
The first one is a classic.
The 2nd one has a pretty cool villain.
The 3rd one has a great climax.
The 4th is just ok to me.
The 5th one seems kind of like a decent closure to the series.
It's a series that, no matter how stupid it can get, I'll always enjoy looking back at them.
Also, I felt like the pirates meant that Will looked like his father when his dad was younger.
Critic doesn’t understand how age works lol
Here’s the problem I have with you Doug, you expect a lot of movies that look simple to stay simple, the third movie is my favorite and my second favorite is the 4th, because at the end of each plot point, there was something new to pay attention to. Also the argument that finding the fountain of youth is as simple as a skip and a hop falls right on its face when you consider that it would make sense that something as sacred as the fountain of youth can’t just be used by any glass or metal cups you find.
Yeah, anything more complicated than Snow White he can’t comprehend
Pirates 1 - 3: Awesome.
Pirates 4: Boring.
Pirates 5: I haven't seen it, but my mom has and she says it's not good.
Your mom is a better critic than Doug.
am i the only one you Loves ALL of the movies!?
nah, i love em all, too. :)
I love the first three and only just like the fourth.
NaomiBlackCovers no I love them too but on different degrees. Personally, I love both Deadman's Chest and On Stranger Tides well At Worlds End was my least favorite.
I love them
I LOVE 'EM ALL!!!
Pirates 2 has my favorite movie ending of all time. I get goosebumps when Barbossa walks down the stairs!!!
2:09 i thought the same thing when rewatching these films. It reminded me a lot of star wars for those two reasons
Just the fact that Dead Mans Chest gave us Davy Jones Theme is worth it all. I fucking love that soundtrack.
Doug actually used that theme in his "Top 11 Scariest Performances" video.
3:47 Bruh, it’s a pirates movie. Pirates aren’t known to have nice and happy stories to them.
Am I the only one who can follow EVERYTHING that happened in 3? I was 10 when I first saw it, and I followed everything flawlessly.
The problem was people wanted to be nothing but swashbuckling action for 90 minutes, when it tries to show character development. This guy took it further hating the opening scene where a little boy gets hanged, saying "It's Pirates of the Caribbean not Schindler's List!", how is that a criticism?
At World's End was the first Pirates I'd ever seen so I loved it since I didn't have anything to compare it to.
Dead man's chest was my favourite because it had the best jokes and it rounded up Jack's character. But yeah, all the Keira and Orlando bullshit was unnecessary.
"Can't Jack Sparrow just go look for some treasure?" was the best line, ever. :)
"Not all treasure is silver and gold mate." ~ Jack Sparrow
I love the first three and can tolerate the following two okay enough. Lol
Dead Man's Chest had 0 flaws... hate me all you want because I have an opinion
@@thedinosaurdiscovery couldn't jack and will make some sort of compensation? And then take of norringhton later?
@@thomaspanditfan2435 yeah no, maybe you need to watch the movie again lmao
Pirates 2: Just as good as the first one, i would say even better.
Pirates 3: The first 2 hours are BORING AS FUCK but everything you have to sit through it kinda pays off once you get to the climax, THAT FINAL BATTLE WAS ABSOLUTY FUCKING AWESOME, PERFECT MIX OF COMEDY AND DRAMA.
Pirates 4: Honestly i don't remember a lot of this one, is the most forgettable. The only thing remember is that i laught A LOT when i saw it, i would say is the funniest of the franchise, it had really good jokes in it.
I enjoyed all of them (the first two more than the last two) and i'm looking forward to the fifth one
What you call "complicated plotline" is the magic of these films. I understand they don't work for everyone but they definitely DID WORK for me and many other people. The second one was more dramatic, epic, funny and had a better villain than the first one. A clear improvement. I understand why you would call the third one complicated, but I think it's a beautiful movie. It's still one of my favorites of all time. And all thanks to that specific mysterious magic that these movies have. They know how to be both dark and funny.
AYE
No one likes the sequels for their plot, they just like seeing Jack and the action and jokes, also while Davy Joans is a cool villain, Barbossa is better.
@@Bob-qq7bt Davy Jones was better than Barbossa. Also, Dead Man's Chest had a better plot than Curse of the Black Pearl.
@@thelastcrow5660 Better plot??? lol you haven’t paid that close attention to the plots, if you did you’d know the plot inconsistencies and goofy additions that are in Dead Mans Chest, Curse Of The Black Pearl is very focused while being very entertaining, it’s also the funnier movie, also Barbossa is the better villain, both of them are good but Barbossa is more entertaining and more memorable.
@@Bob-qq7bt More memorable than Davy Jones? Yeah, right! Davy Jones is the soul reason the movie won it's Oscar. He is more complex in terms of appearance and personality. By far the best villain of the franchise.
DMC has better action scenes, the music is better utilized and the crew of the Flying Dutchman is far more interesting than the cutthroats from the Pearl.
I don't really know what plot inconsistencies you're talking about.
In terms of plot structure, COTBP is all over the place. The characters are acted well but there is no greater emphasis on the curse or the plot. It's just a bunch of running around. In DMC the plot focuses on one goal, the heart, which ties it all together. Every character has the same goal but for different reasons.
Potc 1 is a good movie, but not that great of an adventure movie. Potc 2 beats it down with barely any effort.
0:44
You forgot The Captain part
It’s Captain Jack Sparrow.
5:44
If you're patient enough and willing to sit through a lot of complicated story, you'll get your moments.
Me: *laughs in Kingdom Hearts*
Two things, Douggie boy:
A) At the time the films were set (viz. the eighteenth century) it was perfectly acceptable and commonplace to hang underage people.
B) The “pirate song or some crap like that” is based on the urban legend that Blackbeard used the nursery rhyme “Sing a Song of Sixpence” in order to recruit crew members.
My dad loved these movies. He listened to the soundtrack in his pickup and even got the skull with crossed swords and head scarf tattooed on his chest.
I love the first 3 Pirates movies and the 4th one is pretty decent
The last act/action sequence of the third film is a fucking masterpiece of "action set piece" at its best! The effects, the score, the stakes - this was endgame before endgame lol
Will and Elizabeth are the main characters!!! Of course their in the movie!!! Jack is the side character/comedic relief. That's what make the first movie work, unfortunately the sequel kind of forgot that and tried to make Jack the main character.
Well Jack is technically a main character as well, he’s in front of the movie poster in Curse Of The Black Pearl
@@Legend-vm9uv Yes you are right about that, but I just feel like the first 3 movies are more Will and Elizabeth's story, the plot tends to revolve around them rescuing each other.
From a quick Google search about Jack, I came across the this result (which I'll link at the bottom of the comment), and I think they put it quite nicely:
"To be short, he's a protagonist but his screen time is less than the other characters. And also, in every Pirates of the Caribbean movie, it's like there is a whole different "arc" for each movie, and it doesn't revolve around "main Jack Sparrow arc" or something like that.
I feel like Jack Sparrow is more of a side character but his presence has a huge impact on each movie arc. And the audience is always waiting for Jack Sparrow to come, even though there is an ongoing story parallel to whatever Jack is doing"
writing.stackexchange.com/questions/38986/what-kind-of-protagonist-or-writing-style-is-jack-sparrow#:~:text=To%20be%20short%2C%20he's%20a,arc%22%20or%20something%20like%20that.
A 5th was just announced........yay?
I feel like I'm the only one who likes On Stranger Tides. I like it mostly because they got rid of Orlando Bloom and Keira Knightly and kept the focus on Jack Sparrow. Sure it's not as good as The Curs of the Black Pearl but I still enjoyed it more than the 2nd and 3rd movie.
Yeah, I thought _On Stranger Tides_ was an OK film. I kinda enjoyed it.
Personally, I think none of the sequels were anywhere near as good as the 1st film. _Curse of The Black Pearl_ was a legitimately great film, but...maybe it was a one-off thing that can't be repeated..?
I dunno. I just hope the upcoming movie won't be as _bloated_ as the other sequels were....
Paradox Acres I agree 100% with everything you just said. I really hope the 5th movie will at least be a fun time at the theater. Just give me pirates doing what pirates do best.
Jonathan Tefft I know what you mean. Almost nobody wants a dark, "complex" _Pirates_ movie so I really hope the upcoming 5th movie knows that and just sincerely try to entertain the audience.
+Paradox Acres So how bout that Hunipop
+Jonathan Tefft I agree there was some good moments in Stranger Tides particularly the actual finding of the Fountain of youth scene. However the majority of the film was pretty mediocre and underwhelming. The mermaid attack scene was cool and (Ian Mcshane?) as Blackbeard was not bad. its all opinion though.
I like the whole franchise I grew up with pirates of the Caribbean I love it they brought me joy and happiness
Actually, I have my own theory as to why the sequels are the way they are. They're not trying to cash in on Star Wars or Lord of the Rings' length (though there's no denying that such a possibility is equally as real), but instead cash in on the *actual* pirate epic from Japan: One Piece. Now I mainly speak of the Japanese version since the third film debuted I think before Funimation came along and made up for 4Kids' sins, and to an extent it makes sense. Both series try to be as big as possible when it comes to their stories and their characters can be so deliciously over-the-top (though in both cases that's to varying degrees of effect).
But there's one big difference that makes one better than the other: With One Piece, it makes sense that it'd be built up into something epic, the entire series revolves around one straw hat wearing kid's quest to find a legendary treasure while fighting insurmountable odds along the way; and it built up its conflicts accordingly through world building of just how the franchise is supposed to function. Does the anime sometimes take longer than it should? Yes, but it also makes sure that you're given unique ideas for said world-building in doing so. Not so much with Pirates.
See, I don't like the sequels because, to me, they’re fantasy movies with pirate elements. The first one was a pirate movie with fantasy elements.
I'm glad to see not everyone is sucking up to dougs thoughts. It's great to see people express how they feel about the sequels. Dead man's chest is my favorite, and as much as I respect dougs thoughts, I feel he didn't get into the lore. Personally I think that's actually what makes up these great movies!
Anyway that's all, thanks for reading :)
And the guy who directed Pirates of Caribbean 1-3 Worked on The Ring ,A cure for wellness , Rango and so many more good flicks just give him some credit for trying
That scene fairly early on in the second film when that one guy in the cage gets his eyes pecked out by crows on screen.
WHAT THE ACTUAL UNLIVNG HELL DISNEY?!?!
The movies are not that complicated if you pay attention, and I personally love them. Except the fourth one. The fourth one was boring and I remember nothing about it other than the romance between that dude and the mermaid.
I really hope Will and Elizabeth make an appearance in the next sequel because if you ask me they were the ones driving the story. Even if their story is over, they're still pirates. Or their son could run into Jack or something.
Also am I the only one who thinks these movies would have made great novels? That's part of why I liked them. And a complicated plot probably would have worked better in written form anyway.
You're totally right!!!!!
Well you called it on the son thing
00ammy00 The problem with 4th is that they didn't brought back Gore Verbinski, and you can easily tell that it has a hell of a different vibe compared to the first three that you don't need to know that a director was changed
I’ll spoil it, they do, but for like 5 seconds
I love the pirate of the Caribbean movies so much.
Me too! I love all of them. They have so much action and are really funny and have great characters.
I've never seen the first movie as just a comedy. It felt much more interesting than that, and the sequels expanded it (the 4th doesn't really connect, but the 5th is pretty fine). I liked how they were realist about the atmosphere, with the betrayls, power games, the misery, the laws... that's why I loved that openning scene with the hanging boy. It broke my heart but also set the mood for the film...which, though filled with magic, is still close to History books. I like when they go one step beyond and I feel there's improvement from the first movie to the last in what concerns the plot and the characters.
At World's End remains my favorite Pirates film
I was 10 when i watched all the pirates of the Caribbean sequels and i got all of it eather I'm a weird kid or nostalgia critic cant follow that many plots
The soundtracks are still really good as well.
Dead Man's Chest was a great sequel,my all-time favorite Pirates movie.
At World's End was flawed,but it has it's fair epic moments,The Final Battle was awesome though.
On Stranger Tides was meh.
And i bet Dead Men Tell No Tales kinda sucks (That's the only Pirates movie i haven't seen).
Personally, I love the first three movies. I think they all make for a good trilogy. I love the complex plotlines, I love the themes, and I love the characters (and the music is great, of course). I wasn't too keen on the fourth, but that's because I thought it was a bit empty and the writing didn't strike me as being all that strong.
"Can't Jack Sparrow just go looking for some treasure?"
I love that bit. The simplicity and honesty of that statement just wraps up the whole review in one sentence.
As I’ve said, too much fantasy, not enough piratey.
At world's end is a great film
I love the second and third films, the fourth had the slow stuff from the first film without the heart of any of them.
First one: Masterpiece
Second and Third one: Good
Fourth and Fifth one: They made those?
I will never like dead man’s chest as much as I liked At world’s end
Just
The moment where they are getting married
By a pirate captain
While swordfighting
Fish people commanded by Davy Jones
In a whirlpool
In the middle of a massive naval battle between a collection of pirates and the east India trading company
It just all clicked
It was the supernatural Macro pirate world wish fulfillment I wanted.
Yeah the first will always be better for having the micro level
And I’d say the second is okay (I still cringe pretty hard at the natives, but the action scenes were pretty inventive,
But I don’t get why AWE gets so much hate
I like all four movies, because almost all of them bring something new to the world
the internet continues to surprise me about the way many films are received by critics and "most" people. i'm typing it as such because most of people I personally know in real life usually have different reactions than the ones I come across online.
then again it's my circle so i guess it's logically more common to have the same taste. anyways point is I loved and was beyond fascinated with the sequels! they are still close to masterpieces of fun-action and comedy to me. also I was in high school when i first saw them and the complexity was something I actually really enjoyed. how everything tied up in the end was wonderful and not at all confusing.
really...so weird to hear people have such issues with these films.
dude the climax of the third though
I think the jar of dirt line is one of my favorite lines ina by movie
Pirates Of The Caribbean:
Curse Of The Black Pearl > Dead Man's Chest > At World's End > On Stranger Tides
I love the first 3 movies, but I barely even remember 4 and 5. Also did he really say that he just wanted pirate action without much story? Is he really incapable of following simple plot points?
1:22 they should've casted Luke Evans to play Will's father...
But Luke is younger than Orlando.
@@MegaSoulHero with some makeup, they could've made it happen.
It's beyond amazing to see so much support for the third film in the comments after living under a belief me to be the only person on this planet who likes it more than any of the movies.
My favorite part of the sequels was Dead Man's Chest's soundtrack. Davy Jones had some epic themes.
As hard as I try to think about 1-3 from a neutral standpoint, I just can't. I love them.
The only guy I missed in the 1st sequel was Geoffrey Rush. That's an actor I was glad to observe every Pirates movie.
I think the first one is the greatest of all the POTC saga.
That being said... At World's End is my favorite. Far from perfection, too long and leaving a few things in doubt (like the story between Sparrow and Beckett, and what is the nature of the mark Beckett has), but it just has so many good moments (the dialogue between Tia Dalma and Davy Jones, the intro, the Singapour scene, and especially the 20 minutes long climax), that I can't help but excuse all its flaws.
The thing with the movies was that it was originally about Keira Knightly's character's story, but after realizing that Jack Sparrow was a breakthrough, they came at a problem: Keep on with Knightly's character, or move on to Jack?
I don't have enough problem following 3 to love it. And even if the first hour really was complete garbage, it would all be worth it for the final battle. Jack Sparrow and Davy Jones standing on top of the mast sword fighting while the camera circles around them is a shot that's engraved in my memory like no other movie has ever done
I loved the fourth one, it was entertaining, and the spanish osundtrack was amazing. Don't know why people hated it so much
I think that the Kraken scenes in DMC were the best parts of that film!
Davy Jones is one of the greatest villains in cinematic history
"This is pirates of the caribbean not shidler's list
Honeslty i like it as a grand epic and this is nothing like shindler's list whatever that is
The only reason to see any of these sequels is that epic music!!!
The Curse Of The Black Pearl created the best main character in cinema, that being Captain Jack Sparrow. A genius tactician disguised as a blundering drunk fool.The definition of motive someone who always has a reason as to why he does something.
Dead Mans Chest had the perfect plot, with each party having their own unique motive as to why they wanted Davy Jones heart.
Jack wanted it to bargain with Jones and remove his debt.
Will wanted it to kill Jones and release his father.
Jones wanted it in order to avoid his death
Beckett/Norrington wanted it to rule the seas.
These motivations are good because they naturally conflict. Jacks motive requires Jones be alive in order to call the Kraken off his hunt. But Wills motive requires Jones to die. Beckett needs Jones to remain captain as to rule the seas through him.
This is the perfect example of stakes, a deadline, each action will affect the film, therefore there isnt a sense of relaxation, its rooted in urgency.
At Worlds End created the perfect climactic action sequence, the final battle being one rooted in stakes. Each action had weight. Rather than being a normal battle. It uses a Maelstrom setting. It allows for amazing visuals. It is completely unique, the audience doesnt forget it because it has the glaring uniqueness of a Maelstrom . The second thing it does is keep the audience invested. Everyone has something to do and it means we are invested in their meaningful actions.
Sadly, On Stranger Tides creates no sense of urgency, if our hero doesnt get to the Fountain Of Youth, then nothing is shown to happen. Jack is built on motive, but he has forced motive in this film, he is blackmailed which makes no sense because Jack isnt the type to allow a forced motive.
And Dead Man Tells No Tales is the worst film, particularly because of Jacks character. We know that Jack Sparrow is a mastermind, a trickster, a genius disguised as an imbecile. But in this film, jack never wins by being smart. His wins are accidental, poeple liked Jack because he could escape inescapable situations because he was that clever. However this film presents him as a drunken oaf that Mr Magoos his way out of every danger, turning the most clever pirate in the Caribbean into a lucky alcoholic. Sad
Admittedly the films had 3 main characters but the sequels should’ve just continued with Jack.
Wait you couldn't follow the plot? I followed the plot just fine and I was twelve when the third one came out.
Disneycember: when Doug can make the most half-assed review of a movie and people will still defend it
i really loved the third one
At World's end was my favorite out of the original trilogy and the new ones.
I really liked Pirates of the Caribbean as a whole. I might be biased because I grew up loving these films but I really love them all (except for the last two)
How would making Jack Sparrow the lead make anything better? He's a side character. Will and Elizabeth were the leads, so bringing them back made complete sense.
While I was aware of the huge faults that the sequels had, I still like them all and I always have fun watching them. But I think the best thing about the sequels is that, if you remember how no one ever really sees how Jack gets out of his predicaments, Barbossa, and old friend/rival of Jack, finally got to watch Jack work his magic in the fourth movie. That was awesome!
Both the Jaba scene from return of the jedi and the cannibal island from dead mans chest we’re probably the best parts of each movie
I'm completely ignoring the fourth movie here but when talking about the second and the third movie I actually like the fact that they took the time to include more characters and that they bothered to give them back stories, I like that there is some depth to the characters, otherwise I wouldn't be as invested. Although, I do agree that there are too many plots and sometimes the movies would seem to be going nowhere. They are long and sometimes they are hard to follow but once you watch them plenty of times you know what's going to happen so you don't actually have to concentrate so much on understanding the story and you enjoy the character's interactions a lot more. At least that's been my experience with these sequels haha the first was obviously a lot simpler and fun.
Orlando Bloom was a little annoying but Keira Knightly was SOOOOO annoying and way over-used. She was the weakest link in 2 & 3. I thought Pirates 4 was pretty good overall and Penelope Cruz was so much better.
I love all of them to be honest. the 4th one is the best sequel until may be the 5th movie does come out which I'm extremely excited for
And now there's ANOTHER one. Why do we need MORE?
I saw At World’s End with my Dad, and we both enjoyed it, but there were definitely some moments where it felt dragged out.
I actually find that despite the problems of Dead Man's Chest and At World's End, both movies did expand on the world of the first film and provided a lot of creativity and fun. Yes the first movie is still the best but those sequels aren't bad movies at all. It was when we got to On Stranger Tides (when Gore Verbinki left the director's chair), that the franchise started to got downhill. Then Dead Men Tell No Tales came out and it officially affirmed that the franchise was dead.
I used to hate the third one, but I appreciate so much more after watching the fifth one.
Gotta love how he ends all of the disneycember reviews with a pun
Tbh I think dead mans chest is great but the third one feels like there’s two movies in it that we’re crammed together, it would of been best to split them in to two and have the third movie be about finding jack sparrow (so that when he comes back it doesn’t feel so soon) and about how Davy Jones is doing the east india trading company’s bidding while also have some build up for calypso and who she is and her backstory with Davy Jones, and the ending could be a cliff hanger to the call for the brethren court, then the forth movie can start off with the everyone waking up in Davy Jones locker looking for Jack sparrow, and the whole movie after that can be about the brethren court vs the east india trading company and the Flying Dutchman
Finally I understand why the heck my brain sends me '404 memory not found' when I try to think about the plot of these movies.
There were 3 Pirates of the Caribbean movies,they all were fun to watch and no other PotC were never made
YOU UNDERSTAND,NEEEEVVVVEERRR
The 2nd one is still my favourite because I think it has the best mixture of everything
Yeah, Will and Elizabeth’s story was not done in the first movie. Of course there would be consequences to what they did!
The charges were dropped by the officials.