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Collecting dust at your router table can be a nightmare, but in this video I'll show you how to eliminate dust caused by your router at my DIY router table setup! This is a simple router table dust collection system that is sure to keep your shop clean and free of dust!
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02:50 - Assembly of the Router Table Dust Collection Box
05:00 - Connecting a Dust Collection Hose to the Router Table Box
07:50 - Creating a Door for the Router Table Dust Collection Box
10:50 - Finishing the Collection Box with a Handle
11:50 - Testing the Router Table Dust Collection System
13:00 - Improving the Dust Collection Even More
15:00 - Testing the Improved Dust Managment System
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Shrimp. "60% of the time, it works every time." Ha. Name that movie...
Shrimp. Could you put the vacuum hose connector centered on the bottom of the dust collection box rather than the side so it captures all of the dust? Maybe angle the bottom of the dust box down or even have a rounded funnel like bottom with the vacuum connector in the center of the funnel bottom?
Shrimp. Consider placing a hole with a shutter in the door in line with the speed control. This does 3 things. 1 the additional airflow will keep the speed control area clean from accumulating chips & dust. 2 you can tune the amount of airflow passing thru the cutter bit opening to be as strong as you wish. 3 by increasing airflow the dust collection motor will not have to work harder than necessary (producing a high negative pressure) causing unnecessary wear & power consumption.
And if I am wrong - just close the shutter. Best wishes for success. Rod.
drill small holes at the bottom of the door, so dust will be just blown by incoming air
drill little vent holes where the dust piles up
Shrimple fix for increasing air flow and keeping dust out the corners. Drill small holes in the corners so you can get air flowing across the the bottom of the box. You have more than enough air volume that it won’t make a difference up top. Just needs some intake holes to get it flowing toward the dc port
Thanks for the tip!
Adding to a good idea - Best way to identify where to drill the holes is to note where you have some build up. By drilling the holes at that point you ensure that there is air travelling from that point to the air outlet. This method is particularly effective if your dust extraction system is based on high air volume rather than high air pressure. Based on the size of your outlet I’d say it’s a high air volume flow system ( the best in my view)
YES
I was gonna say the same, lol o shrimp
Was going to comment the same 👍
I think a bigger concern, rather than collecting every bit of the sawdust, you have to take into account cooling your router. It needs air flow around and through the motor. This is particularily important if you're doing a lot of routing. Your vacuum already directs the air flow. so if you cut a 1/2' to 3/4" slot the length of the side opposite your dust port, the evacuation would not suffer. It's not going to depend on the amount of negative air pressure (vacuum) you develop, but rather on the speed and volume of air flow through the box.
Agreed with this. could solve the router cooling, and residual dust collection at the bottom of the box easily, by putting intake vents at the bottom of the door, nearly flush with the bottom of the box. Air will move across the router to help keep it cool, and also sweep across the bottom of the box, helping to keep it clean and minimize dust build up. But ideally the dust port should be flush with the bottom of the box as well so that dust can flow unobstructed into the port.
I bought a really strong computer fan that is mounted directly under my router motor. It turns on with the router.
I was thinking of the same thing, and also we need to consider chances of dust accumulating inside the router because the box sits so close to the router itself. I think that 1) the box can be deeper so dust won't be riding so close to the router when riding along the bottom of the box and 2) have some diverting skirt to encourage dust to flow outside of the router when they fall through the hole. Having intake holes at he right place will also encourage fresh air to flow through the router minimizing dust build up.
I was about to point this flaw out, but it’s good that others noted it.
I don’t know whether the sawdust affects the internals of the router, or how much, but it is an inevitable eventuality that they will be affected, especially the commutator bars and brushes, not to mention the bearings if they are the open type. So perhaps an open port for the router cooling intake at the botttom, coupled with a rubber boot that fits snugly around the router and makes a solid seal for the bottom of the dust collection enclosure would be best, though the router intake may affect the suction power somewhat.
@@cindyhammack68 Is the motor on the computer fan totally enclosed? I wonder if there is any concern with fire on a fan motor that is not meant to be in outrageously dusty environment like a dust collection box beneath a router
Shrimp-ing and saving by designing your own custom upgrades is VERY helpful to teach the rest of us how to invent designs. Thank you!
shrimp - theres 2 things i want to suggest...
1) change the angle suction hole to make a cyclone inside the box...
2) put another hole which connect with the router grill to separate with the dust inside the box so your router will get the clean air from the outside of the box...
Shrimp are by far the best at collecting fine particles so you should call this the shrimp box, also you should put the door on top if the fixed panel so any reminisce dust stays inside the box , and a stronger vacuum might help rather than a second hose, because all the air is concentrated into one place, but overall a very cool build
Shrimp, this is an excellent companion video to the router table/table saw extension video (which I just watched). I know what I'll be working on during my winter break. Thanks for the great content.
Tongue out and at 6:29 unconsciously flip the bird while intently concentrating. Enjoyed the video, thanks for your time
SHRIMP, I just found your channel and love what you are doing. I have been a residential remodeling contractor for over 30 years and am now starting to become a more dedicated woodworker. I have throughly enjoyed the few videos I have seen so far. You have great instincts and look forward to watching more. I also took the time to read comments and found many to be insightful when I construct my router dust collection box. Thank you for your efforts and all the time others spent adding ideas to the project.
Hey Shrimp...I would think a bottom mounted dust hose would capture almost 100% of the dust but in your case it doesn't work because of the cabinet you have there. Either way, it seems a much better solution that letting the sawdust (router dust?) hit the floor.
Lobster. I have another idea for your dust problem that mightve been a little simpler. Those hinges should have a few mm of adjustment in both direction. So if you spaced the door off of the box a little bit it would allow air to be sucked in around the entire perimeter of the door. Might eliminate the whistle, and should help to grab any dust that gets stuck on the bottom and corners of the box. Kind of moot now that you fixed it but who knows someone might see this comment and find it useful
Great suggestion zac! Thanks man
Save it for the aftershow
Agree. Door gap should help a lot. Suck the shrimp right out of there.
Shrimping around and definitely digging the set up and at first I thought the less area inside the box was a bad idea but after thinking it makes it more like the rest of the dust collection system, good work!!!
I love these DIY Workshops Maschines, especially this " Table saw" type and this "router table" model!! To make some stuff at home, and to craft some stuff.
In Germany, we use this kind of Maschines only at the building sites, but the Festtool version. For the smaller circular table saw, or the table for the Festo router with all kinds of rail systems.
But, in our " real" carpentery business work shop, where I worked as employee, we had a totally different Maschinery!!!!
Altendorf or Martin : Table Saw, Kölle or Martin : Stationary table router, and the other big Maschines you need to produce with profit. Edge Gluer, Horizontal CNC circular plate saw, CNC work center, cylindrical sanding Maschine, bla bla🙈🙈🙈🙈😁😁😁‼️
Shrimp... preferably Pad Thai Shrimp.
Awesome video.
My only recommendation would be to place the dust hole at bottom of box or from the inside have placed it at 45 degrees between back panel and bottom panel. You would end up with a significant amount of air movement and therefore dust going downwards instead of sideways. Gravity helps, but it's also the way air / dust moves when getting into the box and the turbulence caused by the air already inside the box.
To have your router enclosed in that msnner will definitely restrict the necessary air flow to age motor of your router, as saw dust itself can clog the ports if the motor. A better position would be to have the bottom of the box to surround the upper guide of the plunge router frame. Use some flexible foam between the router frame and box bottom will protect the router frame from the bottom of the new pan. With a smaller volume the lower motor vents( now upwards), should easily be kept from clogging. If the suction noise is a problem, install an adjustable gate on hose port of the dust collection system you can decrease the amount of suction to tune the air flow to an acceptable noise level. Since you seem to be using the dust collection for your table saw, you should consider using a Y connection with hoses for each tool to save time changing between them. This alone may help with the noise level as it can still be pulling air from the table saw.
He is a VERY uneducated amateur. With very limited woodworking skills
There is an immense amount of fresh air being pulled past that router that I doubt there are any concerns with heat degredation by being left inside of a tiny box.
I like your idea of the port for the vacuum on the bottom of the box where the dust naturally collects but that eliminates room for the drawers below.
@@rickkern5785 even in this video, the enclosure limits the height of possible drawers underneath. My suggestion could also be accomplished with “ cant” boards inside the enclosure directed ti a side opening at the bottom. The basic premise it rpto draw dust from the motor air inlets, which if clogged causes the motor to overheat and fail.
"SHRIMP" Yep, not only did I watch the whole presentation, I saved it in my "projects" folder too!
Yhis is a definite MUST DO for my shop. Thanks for sharing.... 👍
Shrimp, the collection port on the bottom would have been a excellent location with a straight pass thru to hose.. excellent build once again.
Shrimp are icky but I love this and the table upgrade videos! I am grateful that you included the challenges in the corners of the box so now I have ideas on how I want to build mine. Great job!
Much appreciated!
Shrimp the box is a great addition you are the best of the wood working dude on you tube that's my opinion
@@SpencleyDesignCoshrimp. So, if you want to have the box cleaner without dust collecting on the corners and under the motor, I suggest you drill some small holes in the bottom of the door near the floor of the box. Maybe even drill them on a downward 45 degree angle. It will pull air through those holes and essentially sweep the bottom of the box clean as it runs. It will increase the air speed from front to back along the bottom of the box and not just from the central hole to the back.
Looking at how close the bottom of the box is to the router, I do have concerns about adequate router cooling. Also, all that dust at the bottom will have a tendency to get inside of a motor, causing potential problems. TBH, I'd relocate the dust collection intake to the bottom of the box, rather then having it on the side. This way you will have the air flowing around the router, helping to cool it. And the the dust won't build up in the bottom as much
Won’t the vacuum also help with cooling??
Shrimp It is not just the air flow for cooling but also the dust in the air will get into the router and reduce the life of the router. It is better to have an outside source of cooling air for the router.
This is "Shrimply" the best idea. I need to build some "catch boxes" in my shop.
Shrimp -ly brilliant!! Great use of the tight space that you have under the router!!
Nice idea. I think I would have opted to make it a drawer so any left over dust can easily be cleaned by just pulling out the drawer and empty it over a dustbin.
Franklin, (from the previous video on router table wing build). This is EXACTLY the project I was looking to do. Thanks for doing this second video to help with dust mitigation. Keep the vids coming!
Thanks for watching, Jeffrey! I’ve got tons of videos lined up in the future 👍
Shrimp
I’m schrimply happy that i found this video! Just saw it in my feed and decided to watch it! Way more interesting than trying to sleep!
Shrimp Happy New Year’s Eve. Thanks. Wishing you a healthy and prosperous 2024!
Shrimp. As far as the air flow. Think of a fireplace. Area of the inlet needs to equal the exit flue to have maximum flow. Nice job, I need make this build now
Good luck with the build!
Shrimp Absolutely loved this, the music, camera *work, and voice over just makes the perfect video to throw on and relax to. You are now definitely on list of woodworking youtubers I throw on for a bit of free mental space. Love the work and look forward to the future vids! Much love ❤️
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Shrimp. With all of the advice on how to say "caulk" I forgot what I wanted to say. I have been thinking about getting rid of my router table for years. Adding an extension to my table saw is a fantastic resolution to the problem. Thank you very much for the help. Wolf in Kingston.
Shrimp code word is absolutely hilarious!! Love your content!
Shrimp: should we have any concerns about the router motor itself getting clogged up through its vent ports now that the entire thing is encased in a box.
I'm also thinking about fire hazard from the motor brushes igniting fine dust particles that are then sucked out into the extraction bin.
Any thoughts?
I do enjoy the homemade tool adaptions for the workshop videos. Good job. 👍
I really think if that were a major concern then companies like Rockler and Sawstop wouldn't make the metal boxes and router manufacturers would recommend not using their routers with router tables. Even without a dust box the router will pull in some of the fine dust. I usually use compressed air and blow out the motor after heavy use.
Nice video, I hope you didn't fill your router up with dust while checking the vac. I might have the router running during the test next time. The air running through the router helps keep it clear of dust. Hopefully
Shrimp. I had the same issue after building my custom enclosure. My fix... since you probably need/want a hose to your fence to collect dust as well, pipe it to a 2.5" port 90 degrees from the back main 4" hose connection. It provides the extra airflow and it helps "spin" the air in the box to keep it more cleared... and you get the benefit of dust collection on the fence at the bit location.
Shrimp!!! Ive been trying to decide how to do something like this for ages and not being a 'proficient' diy'er, the ideas I had were complex and not ideal.
This is so simple, thanks for simplifying life for me!!
Shrimp... Great solution , well presented and articulated . I enjoyed it . Keep up the great work. Thank you.
I built my router lift into an old wood teacher's desk. I also have a router fence system on it. I modified the desk file drawer as a dust collection box with an extesible 4" dust port for my shop dust collector. I also use router lift plate inserts that allow suction down draft around the router bit.
Shrimp Collection success!! Thanks for the videos. much appreciated.
router motor is gonna love its new feeder and the yammy dust in it.
Shrimply liked watching you troubleshoot something that we all get a bit nuts over in the woodshop. Thanks for keeping it simple
Shrimp-ossibly cool! I love dust reducing hacks like that. Since i was a kid, whenver my dad cuts or drills things, he made me vacuum right at the source so we had less cleaning afterwards.
Shrimp, this is cool. Can't wait to do something like this one day!
I was impressed that you picked up how the SHRIMPy hole in the throat plate would restrict airflow, and would have done the exact same thing with chamfer plates myself under my "cheating table saw made from an old circular saw" that I used to have, but instead of a rear entry for the extractor hose, just made the floor of the box where i put the fitting, and made that removable for accessing the saw for adjustments / blade changes. Dust accumulation problems were pretty much eliminated.
Shrimp - Great idea for the dust box! Loved how you were able to show us some cool tricks with the Kreg!!!
Shrimp.
Like you I did something simliar on my tablesaw for my router table. I ended up adding a few holes near the bottom far edge from my dust collection intake. Massive improvement in the router box for dust in the corners.
Shrimp. I like your router dust collection box except for one concern. The router motor obviously draws air for cooling ventilation. The motor is a universal ac/dc motor, so it has a commutator with carbon brushes. Carbon brushes require clean cooling air to provide the best performance and longevity. I am also puzzled as the air which is vented from the motor clashes with the air being drawn down through the table via the insert ring. Appreciate your comments as I, like you, wish to improve my router table dust collection without damaging my router motor.
Shrimp - Just starting my fine woodworking adventure. I'm collecting great ideas and this one is now on the list. Of course, I'll have to get a dust collection system first. Thanks!
Shrimp, found your channel a few weeks ago, can’t wait to do this and find all the plans. Glad to see you’re doing well
A shrimple, yet effective solution. I'm shrimpifically appreciative of the relocated switch. As a tall guy, it sucks when all the switches are under the shrimping bench.
Hi Shrimp.
To help of the bottom of the box and also give more air to your saw dust collection unit. I would’ve drilled about three or four three-quarter inch holes at the base where your door is so that it sweeps across the bottom and to the dust collection hose rather than gapping it. Anyway. That was just an idea. Cheers
I made a boxed router fence and connected the dust collector hose to it. I really haven't had the need for adjustable wings on the fence. It collects a majority of the dust, but would consider a box underneath also. A sloped bottom on the box with the port near the bottom of the slope would be best, but probably unnecessary.
After I built mine, I modified it. I put a separate hole in the box with a pipe coming from the back of the 'router cooling air intake' to feed it clean cold air.. this does make the vacuum less effective. But the dust extractor pulls enough th make up for the air been pulled in by the router. I also have a Y split to the fence extraction point, which can be turned off when not in use
Shrimple solution to dust collection. Absolutely love it! I'm looking to build a router table as an extension to my table saw at some point and this might be factored into the design.
Shrimp! I saw a great pro-tip on another channel. I cut a 4" hole in the bottom of the router box and installed hose from the router's intake to fresh air outside the box. Like you, I don't have data to back this up but it makes sense to have the router breathing in fresh air. Thanks for your videos.
Shrimp was the main ingredient of dinner tonight.
Fantastic job making do with what you had and tackling problems as they came up!
Shrimp...Great video, I have a craftsman benchtop router table and would like to build a box similar to this around the bottom for dust consolidation! Great idea!
Shrimp .. great build that whole project table and dust collection will work for me. thank you for a great idea.
Thanks again for all to great advise and plans for this collector. And don't forget to order the shrimp
Shrimp, This is actually a really cool idea, I’m actually just getting into woodwork & slowly getting my workshop filled with gear & I think I’ll be adding something like this on my router table, thanks for sharing,
Ps,I just subscribed to your channel & I look forward to to watching more of your videos
Hobbyist woodworker builds plywood box and drills some holes in it. True craftsmanship.
But it is PRECISELY square which the dust particle really appreciate.
Shrimp--Thanks for this! It gave me an idea about my router table!!
Shrimp, thanks this is wat I needed to enhance the flow in my small Proxxon sawtable. My dust collection removes excess dust but it builds up in the corners, this could be it to lead it to the exhaust hole.
Shrimp'in boat with Bubba Gump Shrimpin! Gotta love me a nice guide on tool upgrades!
In my shop I have a cyclone vac top on a 55 gal drum. I can turn it on and I have ball valves set up to open suction to different tools around the shop. It works well to cover my row of miter saws, band saw, table saw, and router table. I haven't figured out how I want to do a lathe vac system, but I figure a large channel will work.
Shrimp was part of my dinner actually. my wife made an awesome soup. and i bet the dust collection would have enjoyed it too!
Shrimp, now I have something ELSE to build!
Great video
Shrimp has become a staple for me lately -- Loved your approach and level of detail in your video. Thanks for giving me inspiration
Shrimp, I added a ~3" hose (shop Vac size) from the side of the box up to a fitting in the fence at the cutter (traditional place for collection). So there are 2 potential paths for the air - down the router hole into the box, and from the fence into the box. Much higher air flow, which also helped clear the box.
Shrimp for tea! Thanks for your video, was great. Love that hinge tool!
Shrimp. Your videos are great. Thank you very much.
As someone who has devised and built a few air intake and exhaust systems for automotive applications,generally these being far more critical than dust extraction but the same rules apply. It's worth remembering that any surface perpendicular to the air travel will create turbulence, hollows,dead air etc. hence the dust in the corners and the swirling to create it. This is especially so with box shapes and even more so at the wall that the extraction pipe is fitted too,square and corners are not things that lend well to air movement and the relatively small hole on a large flat surface in a box under vacuum conditions creates a bottleneck,the majority of the air movement will be a core centre column of air,the outside of which will be slowed, dispersed by and then replace some of the 'stale' turbulent air in the box's extremities, all of which removes energy from the air and reduces its ability to remove the particles.The better solution would be to make the box narrower at the extraction end to create a far superior air flow,reduce turbulent areas and increase extraction markedly,ideally the wall that the extraction pipe is on should be as near dimensionally as a possible to the diameter of the extraction pipe,like a funnel,it will probably be quieter too. The small amount of dust that will build in the corners where the square becomes round at the pipe will actually aid air flow by removing some of the corners harshness.A slow gradual interjection is manageable at that sort of velocity but when air is deflected by right angles etc. even at relatively low velocity,pressure variations,poor efficiency, turbulence, swirling and deposits is the only outcome.
Shrimp. Love your ideas, friend. Thanks!
Shrimp.... I will start looking into making a router table like how you have done. Great idea.
Shrimptastic video! I don't yet have a router, but hope that will be remedied soon. Next I need to watch your video on making your router table. I think that not only will it save me money but also space, which as you well understand is a pretty hot commodity in a garage workshop. Thanks for all your hard work on these videos!
I did a router box 6 years ago. Before you could buy one and made it out of 1/4"
Plywood gluing and nailing it then sealing the edges with calk, its under a router lift
But I didnt put a door on it yet. Becuse I use a multi speed router ive got to pick it up out of the table to set the speed.
Its permently turned on, but ive added a remote switch and an outlet inside the box as well a dust collection port.
It works very good. With just a dust deputy and vacume.
To keep your router box clear of chips, just cut a 1/2 inch strip off of the bottom of your door. That will create a channel of air that sweeps the bottom of the box.
Shrimparama!
Nice build. I like the design.
Thank you!
Shrimple idea for a messy problem, the gap on mine was put on the bottom of the box to promote the airflow across the bed of the box. This stopped that little pile of dust building up under the router.
7:49 "No-one's ever gonna see this".
I think it's one of the most viewed wooden dust collection boxes on youtube 😁
Shrimp. I like the dust collection box very much. The only thing I would have made differently is, instead of a slot along the door for air, I would have made a series of inline holes at the bottom where the dust was collecting to wisp away the dust from that area.
Shrimply awesome build!
Shrimp cocktail is my favorite! Great video!
you don’t need to make the box airtight if you use a dust collector. Dust collectors have high CFM but low pressure, so you want to ensure there is enough paths for air volume, otherwise static pressure will build up and the dust collecting will be inefficient
I bet you could drill 2 holes in the bottom left and right of the door and it would blow all the dust into the dust collection system😁
Shrimp Thanks again for more ideas. I have a similar project I'm planning and this gave me some ideas.
Shrimp, like your dust collection box, can be done many different ways. I highly recommend horseradish cocktail sauce over caulk though...for the shrimp. Thanks again for sharing your process and skills!
Shrimp, This is honestly so simple and nice, I enjoy woodworking videos
Put vents on the bottom of the door to make a carpet of air along the bottom
Shrimp - I want to add a router table to my table saw as well, so thanks for your helpful videos. I don't currently have anything below where I'd put the router and box so I'm thinking having the vacuum exit be on the bottom might work, or even have it come out the side and connect to the fence dust port with a tee connector. Also, I need to find your video for that overhead dust collection arm. That thing looks awesome and is just what I need in my shop.
Shrimp...cool idea and a couple of thoughts. First is how you're testing - it's not real world because youre not considering that the router bit will be running (above) the table plane and spewing dust everywhere. You should retest with that in mind. Second thought: punching holes in the throat plate for more air flow which'll have the benefit of more dust capturing and router cooling.
Now, question: my router table is cast iron so i cant drill a box into it. What would you suggest, embedding high strength magnets along the top edge of the wooden box?
shrimp, this is great idea and engineered on the fly. happy to see the success you achieved
SHRIMP - I have a BBQ Grill/Smoker Damper attached to the side of my Dust Box (Commercial, I was lazy) and I can close it off or open it up to adjust the airflow. I also have a dust port/brush mounted to the side of the saw, that picks up dust from, say a dado, where the dust would normally shoot across the shop floor. I've also seen it done with a hole in the router plate. 😀
Love shrimp video. I have idea to add to it. Set the hose at the gotten of the dust collector box. That what I plan to do. When I decided to build mine. Thank you for the idea.
Bottom not gotten I missed spelled that. My auto correct and phone thinking for me. And some time choose the next word for me. Can really confuse ppl at time. plus my phone enjoys making me look and sound dumb at times, 😂😂😂😂😂😂 have to love technology
Shrimp Scampi is good, just like every video of yours that I have watched, I take insperation from many of yourt videos and use what I have learned toward my own "shop". Thank you!
This is an amazing fix, and it looks like it works very well! Too bad I don't shrimping have many power tools tho.
Shrimp ..... erm throw another one on the barby! Great little video.
"I had some scrap plywood lying around" Ah, the good old days....
Shrimp. You are the overkill king but I like it because I’m the same way. Love your videos and presentation!
you can add a 2 hose from the router box to a fence dust port. Probably help with the static pressure you described
SHRIMP Great job, love it. Keep it going.
Shrimp. I need to make one for my router table. It got you a new subscription.
Shrimp. Nice build. Would have liked to see how the dust collection performs while you are routing something.