Thank yo, thank you, thank you!!!!! I was about to give up on trying to make kuksas because they all split or checked on me. I have been making them from half of the log. I will be trying the quarter log as you suggest. I'm sure that is what my problem has been. You've saved me from quitting.... Thanks!!!
Thank you for preventing me from making a couple of the mistakes I was about to make on my first kuksa. I appreciate the info and saving my time and eventual frustration. 👍
Cheers for sharing your experiments Tom. Just fineshed my first kuksa with wood I saved from the Spoon Hoolie. I'm going to oil the heck out of it now after watching this 👍🏻
Very useful data! Great to see scientific method put to use in wood carving! Would it be possible to show how the eventual kuksa is oriented in the quartered log? Would the rim be facing the cut side of a quarter or oriented toward the bark side, or toward the core?
I’m struggling to picture how the kuksa is oriented in the quartered log. Is it the same as the orientation in your other video “How to make a highlands kuksa cup?”
My main rule of tool use, which I got from a book on plane use, - 3 small cuts, especially impact, are better and safer than one big cut. First, you might take away too much material with a big cut. Also, apparently from this experiment, you can cause unseen structural damage to the wood. Another action that will damage the wood grain is using the side of the cup to leverage a tool while making a cup. Again, this levering is a function of trying to take too big of a cut. Using the side of the cup to guide the cutting edge is a good and necessary practice.
Great video, could you explain how to do oiling? I have two mugs that I bought from my last trip in Bali. But they are not maintained for hot coffee. I want them to be usable
What oil did you use to finish these so they don't weep when you pour liquid in them? I've used boiled linseed oil on my kuksa and it continues to weep/leak from the edge grain side which happens to be the front of the kuksa. It has several coats of BLO but I'm not close to the 30-45 day cure. Maybe that's the reason? Awesome video! Subbed. Edit: Now that I've read the comments, I'm seeing that BLO is NOT a good oil for this and will be moving on to Walnut Oil or regular Linseed Oil/Flax Oil.
This video made my day. But I'm still troubleshooting on the taste of the oil. It seems like the kuksa continues to taste of rancid oils. Do you have any solution to this.
Love the video thanks for all the information. Question... When do you know the oil is dried before re oiling if necessary, I've heard of you oil a second time and the first layer is not dry/polymerised it will never dry??
Thank you so much Wooden Tom for sharing your experience, I recieved my carving tools the other day, and I am planning to carve my own kuksa, thank you so much for this precious video/information saving me from unnecessary mistakes. Thank you so much.
So my understanding now is that: Make cups from quarter logs, be carefull when carving not to damage to much, and oil them as much the would need to be oiled.
I really liked your video, I have just looked at about five others that waffled on about Niff naff & failed to get to the point! All I wanted to know was what food safe "oil" can I use to waterproof the goblet I just turned & you have really helped. I turned it from a piece of Cherry wood, I can see that it may split as it was from a single piece & not a quarter section as you advise 😕, but still we'll see how it goes eh. It's a communion cup so we'll say how it goes with wine! Thanks again & God bless, Bill.
Hello Mr. Tom This is Osman from Greece. Thank you for your useful information about cucsa. Could you tell me about carving tools. Mark, dimensions etc. Thanks
Hi i just have the same problem right now...i have 2 kuksa and they both are leaking..one is Birch the other one is walnut wood...i poured oil inside the cup and left like this for hours to saturate with oil and even the oil comes out on the exterior the wall cup...how long should the oil cure before i can hot drinks? I tried to test it the next day and the oil just dissolves in the water or it comes out from the wood. Some advice would be nice...thank you and i realy love your work.
Thank you for the great video. I just had my kuska split by hot tea during my camping. That brings me to search the maintenance of Kuksa. Someone told me it should be boiling in salty water. Others said it should be in cognac. I have no idea of which it the correct one. By the way, what kind of oil you’re using?
In curious if oiling with food grade linseed-(I have a fair bit on hand) before the kuksa is dried still bit wet but few weeks carved/old from greenwood is a good idea at all to dissipate/force out the moisture replacing with the oil and stabilise the kuksa quicker or no
olive oil belongs in a salad, not on wood, It would just make your kuksa sticky and smelly over time, You need oils that polymerize as they dry, and so they harden the wood
Is Linseed oil food safe? I've been using olive oil, which I have on hand. Repeated oilings are really bringing out the beauty of the wood, more and more.
Boiled linseed oil is definitely not food safe. There is raw linseed oil which may be better but flaxseed oil (same thing just different name) is definitely edible.
I've read that you should not oil the inside of the kuksa because it will leach out into your drink. I only just carved my first one and don't know what oil to use or if I should oil the inside. I also don't really know the process. what do you suggest?
Making it from a full branch will leave the pith (the middle section of the wood) in the cup. This is a weak spot in the wood and you want to avoid that, so you need to split it through the pith first
@HaZe2k5 no, flawseed and linseed are EXACTLY the same. The difference is if it is "boiled" or not. Coz by "boiled" they don't mean actually heated, but it means some metallic component have been added to ease up the drying process. Raw flax/linseed oil is edible, "boiled" flax/linseed oil is not edible !
I make kuksa from half logs all the time they never split , the trick is to use a big enough log that you can eliminate the middle section of the log , that's the part that causes the split as it dries , it the same with spoon carving never use the centre section of the log
I'm just curious, what if I just surfacing only outside the cup with linseed oil, is it still works or you must saturated it full ? sorry for my bad english, btw.
@@paulhoulihan8711 boiled has added heavy metals = poisonous , raw cold processed linseed = food grade nutritionally known as possessing efa - essential fatty acids great for you
First of all.. unless it’s made from a properly dried birch burl it’s not a kuksa.. ( or Guksa in davvisámegiella) it’s just a wooden cup that resembles a kuksa. The reason they are made from dried birch burl is so they don't crack... mine is several years old and I pour hot coffee into it every morning.
You'e a brave man to make that many cups just to (potentially) destroy them. This was a really useful and informative video, so thank you
Adam Ashworth haha thanks Adam... perhaps I have too much time on my hands!
Wooden Tom nice craft dude great interesting videos thankies 💕👌🐺🐾
Hello! Awesome video btw :) and yeah, could you tell me how much I have to boil and how much do I need salt with making only one kuksa
Thank yo, thank you, thank you!!!!! I was about to give up on trying to make kuksas because they all split or checked on me. I have been making them from half of the log. I will be trying the quarter log as you suggest. I'm sure that is what my problem has been. You've saved me from quitting.... Thanks!!!
Thank you for preventing me from making a couple of the mistakes I was about to make on my first kuksa. I appreciate the info and saving my time and eventual frustration. 👍
Great video! how long du you submerge it in oil?
Greatings from Austria
Cheers for sharing your experiments Tom. Just fineshed my first kuksa with wood I saved from the Spoon Hoolie. I'm going to oil the heck out of it now after watching this 👍🏻
Very useful data! Great to see scientific method put to use in wood carving! Would it be possible to show how the eventual kuksa is oriented in the quartered log? Would the rim be facing the cut side of a quarter or oriented toward the bark side, or toward the core?
Thanks Brett. Yes, i have the rim facing the bark side.
I’m struggling to picture how the kuksa is oriented in the quartered log. Is it the same as the orientation in your other video “How to make a highlands kuksa cup?”
yeah it is the same as in highlands kuksa video Kfholler
My main rule of tool use, which I got from a book on plane use, - 3 small cuts, especially impact, are better and safer than one big cut. First, you might take away too much material with a big cut. Also, apparently from this experiment, you can cause unseen structural damage to the wood. Another action that will damage the wood grain is using the side of the cup to leverage a tool while making a cup. Again, this levering is a function of trying to take too big of a cut. Using the side of the cup to guide the cutting edge is a good and necessary practice.
Thank you! I just received a Kuksa cup and am glad I watched this before using it for hot tea!
Great video, could you explain how to do oiling? I have two mugs that I bought from my last trip in Bali. But they are not maintained for hot coffee. I want them to be usable
What oil did you use to finish these so they don't weep when you pour liquid in them? I've used boiled linseed oil on my kuksa and it continues to weep/leak from the edge grain side which happens to be the front of the kuksa. It has several coats of BLO but I'm not close to the 30-45 day cure. Maybe that's the reason? Awesome video! Subbed.
Edit: Now that I've read the comments, I'm seeing that BLO is NOT a good oil for this and will be moving on to Walnut Oil or regular Linseed Oil/Flax Oil.
This video made my day. But I'm still troubleshooting on the taste of the oil. It seems like the kuksa continues to taste of rancid oils. Do you have any solution to this.
Thank you for your time and effort in making this resource information available.
Great information, thank you. Does the hot beverage ever pick up the taste of the oil?
The first few drinks, a little yes then its fine. I think it is more just where your lips are in contact with the rim more than anything.
Love the video thanks for all the information. Question... When do you know the oil is dried before re oiling if necessary, I've heard of you oil a second time and the first layer is not dry/polymerised it will never dry??
it is not necessary to boil in water and salt to prevent it from breaking, if it is with dry wood? just oil?
Thank you so much Wooden Tom for sharing your experience, I recieved my carving tools the other day, and I am planning to carve my own kuksa, thank you so much for this precious video/information saving me from unnecessary mistakes. Thank you so much.
So my understanding now is that: Make cups from quarter logs, be carefull when carving not to damage to much, and oil them as much the would need to be oiled.
How can it be stopped that a wooden cup splits when filling boiled water in for the first time? Thanks for the very informational video!
I really liked your video, I have just looked at about five others that waffled on about Niff naff & failed to get to the point! All I wanted to know was what food safe "oil" can I use to waterproof the goblet I just turned & you have really helped. I turned it from a piece of Cherry wood, I can see that it may split as it was from a single piece & not a quarter section as you advise 😕, but still we'll see how it goes eh. It's a communion cup so we'll say how it goes with wine! Thanks again & God bless, Bill.
Enjoyed the video.. can you drink coffee from one without a problem? Thank you
Hello Mr. Tom
This is Osman from Greece.
Thank you for your useful information about cucsa.
Could you tell me about carving tools. Mark, dimensions etc.
Thanks
Thank you so much for your video, Tom ... now I understand!!! They are not really as easy as they look!!!
Hi i just have the same problem right now...i have 2 kuksa and they both are leaking..one is Birch the other one is walnut wood...i poured oil inside the cup and left like this for hours to saturate with oil and even the oil comes out on the exterior the wall cup...how long should the oil cure before i can hot drinks? I tried to test it the next day and the oil just dissolves in the water or it comes out from the wood. Some advice would be nice...thank you and i realy love your work.
Thank you for the great video. I just had my kuska split by hot tea during my camping. That brings me to search the maintenance of Kuksa. Someone told me it should be boiling in salty water. Others said it should be in cognac. I have no idea of which it the correct one. By the way, what kind of oil you’re using?
Jack Zhang I am using lots of Danish oil. Usually 4 coats
@@woodentom1 In my opinion, Danish oil is not suitable for dishes. Or what the a special there is for tableware?
Nice Fisherman's Kep ,Tom!
In curious if oiling with food grade linseed-(I have a fair bit on hand) before the kuksa is dried still bit wet but few weeks carved/old from greenwood is a good idea at all to dissipate/force out the moisture replacing with the oil and stabilise the kuksa quicker or no
Good information, thanks for showing us. Take care.
bit unclear to me. should I boil them or not?
Hi Tom, Have you heard of anyone using coconut oil on the kuksas? Your opinion?
That is what I just used on my first mug I carved. Results are as yet unknown.
Thanks for this heads up!
I was wondering if oil would help prevent cracking as it dries. Would olive
or almond oil work? What do you think? Thank you!
Those oils arent hardening oils, they'll eventually go rancid. Walnut oil, hemp seed oil etc are far better choices.
olive oil belongs in a salad, not on wood,
It would just make your kuksa sticky and smelly over time,
You need oils that polymerize as they dry, and so they harden the wood
Some real usefull advice. Thank You
I soak all mine in an FDA approved, no VOC, food safe epoxy called CLR. I can even run them thru the dishwasher
Is Linseed oil food safe? I've been using olive oil, which I have on hand. Repeated oilings are really bringing out the beauty of the wood, more and more.
You can buy flax oil in health food store that is in fact edible linseed oil or raw linseed oil. The boiled linseed oil may contain drying chemicals.
Boiled linseed oil is definitely not food safe. There is raw linseed oil which may be better but flaxseed oil (same thing just different name) is definitely edible.
Olive oil isnt a hardening oil, use something like hemp seed oil :)
@@CryptoRoast_0 Thanks for your tips. I think I'll try raw linseed oil or flax oil.
@@billastell3753 Boiled Linseed oil will contain other chemicals.
I've read that you should not oil the inside of the kuksa because it will leach out into your drink. I only just carved my first one and don't know what oil to use or if I should oil the inside. I also don't really know the process. what do you suggest?
Oh, and do you need to continue to oil your kuksa over the years?
How do you get the bottoms of the cups to be so flat inside?
What about making a cup from a branch the size your cup will be and power carving instead of impact tools like gauges and such?
Making it from a full branch will leave the pith (the middle section of the wood) in the cup. This is a weak spot in the wood and you want to avoid that, so you need to split it through the pith first
Why did you boil it and whatever did you boil it in
thanks mate for these valuable informations,
should i boil it in salty water before or after i oiled them up?
Amir NZ I found boiling in salty water made no real difference so no need to do it. Just give it plenty coats of oil
@HaZe2k5 Flaxseed and Linseed are the exact same thing :P
@HaZe2k5 no, flawseed and linseed are EXACTLY the same. The difference is if it is "boiled" or not. Coz by "boiled" they don't mean actually heated, but it means some metallic component have been added to ease up the drying process. Raw flax/linseed oil is edible, "boiled" flax/linseed oil is not edible !
If you want edible, go for raw, clod-pressed :)
@HaZe2k5 the one you have, doesn't mean it's all the same.
emergency question wood eucalyptus wood be an ok wood to use for a kuska??
I tried one. Thw wood is too hard to carv. So u can make cracks with mechanical mistakes. Try abedul, raulí roble (im from chile)
It wood knot.
great video.... thank you!
Thank you for this.
That is very helpful, thanks.
I was gidted a kuksa. It has this weird rancid smell. How do get rid off it?
great vid, thanks!
I make kuksa from half logs all the time they never split , the trick is to use a big enough log that you can eliminate the middle section of the log , that's the part that causes the split as it dries , it the same with spoon carving never use the centre section of the log
Would walnut oil work for oiling the cup?
Yes..but no one seem to know if or if not nut allergy can be triggered by it.
Thank you.
I'm just curious, what if I just surfacing only outside the cup with linseed oil, is it still works or you must saturated it full ? sorry for my bad english, btw.
I was just about to ask the same question
Thanks for sharing, just subbed. You have really beautiful Kuksa. Take care, Nikki.
Just hit the subscribe great vid thanks
how does one make a kuska from a quarter log
Good job
Great advice except for the linseed oil. Linseed is not a food safe oil. Might I suggest walnut oil in stead.
Boiled Linseed oil is not food safe but regular linseed oil can be found in the food section of the supermarket.
@@paulhoulihan8711 boiled has added heavy metals = poisonous , raw cold processed linseed = food grade nutritionally known as possessing efa - essential fatty acids great for you
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First of all.. unless it’s made from a properly dried birch burl it’s not a kuksa.. ( or Guksa in davvisámegiella) it’s just a wooden cup that resembles a kuksa. The reason they are made from dried birch burl is so they don't crack... mine is several years old and I pour hot coffee into it every morning.
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Good info. But please man, project your voice so we don't have to strain to hear you..