How police manipulate facial recognition

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  • Опубліковано 25 лип 2019
  • Police across the country are using facial recognition to check IDs and find suspects -- but are they using it the right way? A new study from Georgetown Law’s Center on Privacy & Technology suggests even good algorithms can be put to bad uses, particularly once police start getting creative with the images.
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  • @TheVerge
    @TheVerge  5 років тому +30

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  • @PixelSheep
    @PixelSheep 5 років тому +225

    So it is like it always is - The technology is not the problem - the humans are ...

  • @Faramadefrancescaoladapo
    @Faramadefrancescaoladapo 5 років тому +232

    😂 The Machine said it was you😳

    • @shahman1
      @shahman1 5 років тому +5

      i mean, i can't imagine it to be any other way and that's like deadass scary

    • @binoymathew246
      @binoymathew246 5 років тому +1

      The Rise of the Machines!

  • @Vladislaffable
    @Vladislaffable 5 років тому +96

    Oh those buttons.....

    • @cmair77
      @cmair77 5 років тому +1

      Vladislav Kerechanin 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @binoymathew246
    @binoymathew246 5 років тому +2

    Great content Russell! Keep up the good work.

  • @MarkGast
    @MarkGast 5 років тому +35

    I hear that Juggalo makeup works to break face recognition. Anyone want to clown around?

  • @samushunter0048
    @samushunter0048 5 років тому +32

    Minority Report is officially here.

    • @cmooreHD
      @cmooreHD 5 років тому

      Yes!!

    • @binoymathew246
      @binoymathew246 5 років тому +1

      It had started way back... We just didn't realise it. The Rise of the Machines is upon us!

  • @RyanStewartUSA
    @RyanStewartUSA 5 років тому +30

    So this is nothing new. I dont know how many times as a teen we were stopped or approached because our group "fit the description" were driving a "similar vehicle" to something/someone supposedly involved in a crime. It was really just an excuse to search.

    • @PHlophe
      @PHlophe 5 років тому +3

      ryan you survived to tell the story. you've got the right skin color

    • @morstyrannis1951
      @morstyrannis1951 5 років тому

      "It was really just an excuse to search." Supposition on your part. How do you know you didn't fit the description of a person or vehicle? You could have followed up a the time to find out the facts. But instead you're just complaining later.

  • @ThizYoutuber
    @ThizYoutuber 5 років тому +105

    It is 2019! Why do you have a notch?

  • @daviddoughty4516
    @daviddoughty4516 5 років тому +6

    No mention about how China is using it ...

  • @maiyenish8552
    @maiyenish8552 5 років тому +5

    IF you want to understand the problems..... LOOK AT CHINA's usage!

  • @actualnotanewbie
    @actualnotanewbie 5 років тому +6

    Funniest opening 20 seconds I've heard in a while!

  • @kali2593
    @kali2593 5 років тому +16

    Also, it possibly police can use this tech to just arrest ppl they feel annoyed with. Example, people doing a protest they used FR to see if the person did a crime like running a red light or forget to pay a ticket they just arrest for that. Maybe the police didn't like your face. So they just take a picture and search in the database to just arrest you for something because they didn't like you.

    • @masseiy
      @masseiy 5 років тому +2

      a lot of people are about to be in jail for nothing... again

  • @BlakeHelms
    @BlakeHelms 5 років тому +14

    I don't think an outright ban is correct solution for something like this. The problems as described in the video seem to be more a lack of accountability on the side of the user and a lack of data integrity on the side of the manufacturer. A more constructive use of legislative oversight would be to require manufactures to close the gap on racial recognition disparity and until that gap is closed and certified by an independent third party they can't use it for law enforcement.
    By the same token, there should be regular audits of how the system is being used by officers and what information is being used to conduct a stop. If an officer is dialing the accuracy settings to fit a narrative then corrective action should be taken, whether that be further training or disciplinary.
    We as a society should be wary of tech like this and should work to make sure it is being properly used and monitored before wide scale adoption but outright banning of tech should not be the answer.

    • @kenbaeza
      @kenbaeza 5 років тому

      🙌🏼🙌🏼

    • @binoymathew246
      @binoymathew246 5 років тому +1

      @Blake Helms You, sir, seem to be a sane individual.

  • @deeb3272
    @deeb3272 5 років тому +2

    *gets shot and killed*
    "The machine said it was you .."

  • @Tricumulairdesigns
    @Tricumulairdesigns 5 років тому +3

    The title should rather be: The moral problem of the police and tech

  • @noellemattison8220
    @noellemattison8220 5 років тому

    Love vids with this guy!

  • @dipayanaquatics878
    @dipayanaquatics878 Рік тому

    Do wearing spectacles create iny differences in recognizing face if the original photo uplaoaded is without spectacles

  • @fooo2241
    @fooo2241 5 років тому +4

    Another very good reason not to support Amazon.

  • @soudweepbanerjee4754
    @soudweepbanerjee4754 5 років тому +6

    Then there may be a carnage

  • @Atomic361
    @Atomic361 5 років тому

    Great Video

  • @StellarAudyssey
    @StellarAudyssey 5 років тому

    Very nicely presented Verge, not overly politicised. Keep this high standard pls. Cheers.

  • @bpgarcia1
    @bpgarcia1 5 років тому +8

    This video needs the input of folks in the industry. A good video overall but dated in how the neural networks work

  • @HandheldAddict
    @HandheldAddict 5 років тому +1

    3:04 I see an orange line not red.... Is this another white and blue dress??

  • @AlexMercadoGo
    @AlexMercadoGo 5 років тому +3

    This is the best video I’ve seen by Russel Brandom so far.

  • @irfanspace
    @irfanspace 5 років тому

    talked about algorithm and to be honest to make one algorithm you have to do so much work... algorithms are not easy to make as you just said ..

  • @coconutoil2412
    @coconutoil2412 5 років тому +4

    The machine from Person Of Interest is REAL!!😥

    • @umersalman1
      @umersalman1 5 років тому +1

      I see you are a person of good taste.

  • @lavarmarsh3016
    @lavarmarsh3016 11 днів тому

    Crazy I got pulled and car wasn’t in my name but they acted like it was a sting.1 pulled me over and the other one cut in front of me going to work.Came to window said my name and all and said I’m associated with the owner of the car .

  • @danibl5490
    @danibl5490 5 років тому +38

    So all people will know the secret identity of 🕷 spiderman !!!! 😢😭

    • @JoaoRaiden
      @JoaoRaiden 5 років тому +3

      lol this comment is funnier cuz you have a venom picture

  • @victorlazo238
    @victorlazo238 5 років тому

    I kept waiting for him to say "we have to look at the Big Picture" but it never happened.

  • @mirsadm
    @mirsadm 5 років тому +1

    This is a great video! Nice job.

  • @painexotic3757
    @painexotic3757 5 років тому +2

    1984

  • @exMuteKid
    @exMuteKid 5 років тому +4

    Hol up did he just say all black people are at risk? Lmao

    • @Silverfirefly1
      @Silverfirefly1 5 років тому +2

      I believe he meant a community at risk [of being misidentified by the algorithms].
      The risk to individuals in other contexts would not amount to a community at risk. A community at risk would have to be shrinking or disappearing, but that still wouldn't make sense to his point.

    • @Silverfirefly1
      @Silverfirefly1 5 років тому

      @SassyBasilisk65 It's literally a story about how all black people look the same to this technology. It would be very difficult to discuss this without falling into that hole, because language isn't always perfect, but I really don't think that this reporter on this particular story is unaware of the trope.

  • @honeypie2555
    @honeypie2555 5 років тому +1

    Your right to privacy is gone, yet none of you even noticed. Ignorance is bliss, or not.

  • @angryITGuy
    @angryITGuy 5 років тому +1

    Corporations violate your privacy far more than any government can. The difference is that your government can put you in jail.

    • @haydencase7886
      @haydencase7886 5 років тому

      @Giulio Campobassi. I guess that's kinda true but what about the NSA?

    • @angryITGuy
      @angryITGuy 5 років тому

      @@haydencase7886 NSA is a special case, but there is usually judicial oversight, ie application of law, to determine what govt can do.corporations can be more opaque.. until they're caught like the Cambridge analytical scandal

  • @EmanuelCaesar
    @EmanuelCaesar 5 років тому +2

    Wait. So movies about police are lies?

  • @bilybastrd
    @bilybastrd 5 років тому

    I'm all for it as a person that doesn't break the law
    If we knew who did what and where they were, crime would drop dramatically
    we are already on camera when we shop for food,clothing,furniture,electronics etc
    if the option to know if a dangerous person was near you, your spouse or your kids we'd take it

  • @gurveensidhu5319
    @gurveensidhu5319 2 роки тому

    i love you great vid deserves 1000000000000000000 subs yes i love you

  • @hasz.7492
    @hasz.7492 5 років тому

    Oneth!

  • @suryachivukula
    @suryachivukula 5 років тому +2

    Surveillance is mainly monitor to stop any crime not to make it happen It cant be used in your personnel rooms but in a open area where large people move around its not easy to monitor by human

  • @infinitequest0424
    @infinitequest0424 2 роки тому

    Government and science algorithms ?

  • @Lucas-zd9yn
    @Lucas-zd9yn 5 років тому

    I really dont get the scandal!

  • @ameerali.ouarda
    @ameerali.ouarda 5 років тому

    What about Apples depth-sensing Face ID?

    • @Nishith8
      @Nishith8 5 років тому +2

      It's data is stored on iPhone only, and only the user can access it no one else, so it's safe :-)

    • @jacksanato521
      @jacksanato521 4 роки тому

      Nishith Joshi lets hope

  • @chloetangpongprush3519
    @chloetangpongprush3519 5 років тому +1

    Seems pretty black mirrory to me

  • @TheNael92
    @TheNael92 5 років тому +1

    and there i was thinking china is the only one doing this stuff to its citizens. What can you do this is the future, anything that make your life easier is the future.

  • @prasad2897
    @prasad2897 5 років тому

    I thought it was about phone unlocking

  • @tommywong3147
    @tommywong3147 5 років тому +1

    China has been using it for ages

  • @Dan-zk2hb
    @Dan-zk2hb 5 років тому +6

    I love this argument. Good job. Don't ever write about Plex and spin it as a privacy netflix.

  • @maple_fields
    @maple_fields 5 років тому +10

    "Should the police"
    Well, probably not.

  • @Tempo1337
    @Tempo1337 5 років тому +9

    If you have to ask "Should the police..." then the answer is "No".

  • @cmooreHD
    @cmooreHD 5 років тому

    Once I got an iPhone XS and a HomePod a month later I knew I was giving my life away. I am now... forever being watched and listened to.

  • @ydn289
    @ydn289 5 років тому

    Hmmmmmm..... 🤔

  • @TarlanT
    @TarlanT 5 років тому +4

    What’s wrong with stopping a suspect ?
    It doesn’t mean your human rights are violated.

  • @rtr_dnd
    @rtr_dnd 5 років тому +3

    HEY BUT DON'T WE HAVE TO LOOK AT A BIG PICTURE!?!?

  • @Stargate2077
    @Stargate2077 5 років тому

    To better understand this we are going to have to look at...The Big Picture...

  • @freddierobinson9587
    @freddierobinson9587 5 років тому

    Why shouldn’t they have this tech?

  • @tm4tare
    @tm4tare 5 років тому +3

    George Orwell predicted this long ago!Soon we can all be convicted of face crime!

    • @mxmus08
      @mxmus08 5 років тому

      And end up room 101.

  • @millerfour2071
    @millerfour2071 5 років тому

    3:08

  • @abhishekmandge9590
    @abhishekmandge9590 5 років тому

    @3:01 just waiting when color was about to be dragged in 😂

  • @johngodard804
    @johngodard804 5 років тому

    I was waiting for him to say : we need to look at the big picture. 🙄

  • @MickyAvStickyHands
    @MickyAvStickyHands 5 років тому +2

    Police stops do NOT have “dangers of their own” if you just listen to the officer.

    • @calvingreen7197
      @calvingreen7197 5 років тому +4

      You’re delusional...

    • @binoymathew246
      @binoymathew246 5 років тому

      Not necessarily...

    • @TheKief420
      @TheKief420 5 років тому

      Might be for you but there are others who would beg to differ

  • @BenjaminKeller
    @BenjaminKeller 5 років тому +4

    “A police-stop is a risk on its own.” Whaaat?
    How about we start to act civilized before we start blaming machines?🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @saumitrachakravarty
    @saumitrachakravarty 5 років тому

    Privacy is a lost cause. Good luck fighting for it!

    • @unknownjr9966
      @unknownjr9966 5 років тому

      We gave our privacy for free lol

  • @pinkomega5329
    @pinkomega5329 5 років тому +2

    "revolutionary technology can't be fully utilised for good because humans bad"

  • @busywl69
    @busywl69 5 років тому

    racial recognition

  • @andresvelez1927
    @andresvelez1927 5 років тому +1

    I think the arguments proposed in this video are not well presented, why is a police stop problematic?

  • @saulgoodman2018
    @saulgoodman2018 5 років тому +1

    Law enforcement use it to catch criminals. But people will just complain that they will use for it no good reason.

  • @likklej8
    @likklej8 4 роки тому

    Go indigenous and paint your face.

  • @ehmzed
    @ehmzed 5 років тому +1

    How is a simple police stop dangerous??

  • @ameerabdallah5429
    @ameerabdallah5429 5 років тому +1

    Clearly mistaken on how this actually works. No police department is going to say that "the machine said it was you, therefore it is you". The machine doesn't say who it is, all it does is produce matches of certain peoples who may be a suspect. Once that happens, the officer can detain you for further questioning. All this is doing is helping officers find where a possible suspect lives. So much fear mongering about literally a piece of software that just looks through the list of people who make look like that for you.

  • @NDakota79
    @NDakota79 5 років тому

    I love the convenience of faceID and I trust Apple not to abuse my private data.

    • @autonomous2010
      @autonomous2010 5 років тому

      They might not directly abuse your private data but they might sell it to someone who will. :-P

  • @WandererOfWorlds0
    @WandererOfWorlds0 5 років тому

    Wanna bet this wouldn't be a "controversy" if those lines were reversed?

  • @mab0738
    @mab0738 5 років тому

    Here we go again. Even machines are racist

  • @keeper0523
    @keeper0523 5 років тому

    I disagree. The problem will be going away.

  • @zer0b0t
    @zer0b0t 5 років тому

    I'm a person of color... white

  • @danibl5490
    @danibl5490 5 років тому +4

    So all people will know the secret identity of 🕷 spiderman !!!! 😢😭