Oh I LOVED the conversation about skillsets! It's always interesting to hear about how writers develop their characters, as somehow who primarily writes poetry and microfiction
Also I cannot stop thinking about how inspiring it must be to write next to a faux spaceship portal, like, wow. Combines inspiration from being on the way to somewhere and inspiration from being in SPACE
Looking at unique challenges like having a disability as a drive to develop a special skillset was incredibly insightful. I was aware of this concept for individual cases of course but I never really generalized this concept so broadly in this concise way. I was never consciously aware of how universally this applies to every single human being.
Back on my troubled younger days Mary Robinette Kowal treated me with extraordinary amd undeserved kindness at World Fantasy in DC. Absolutely a delight!
Currently drowning under the 10k I'm behind in my nano wordcount, this video couldn't have come at a better time to boost my writing mood. (Also would totally listen to another 30 min of cat stories. Those little bits at the end were amazing lol)
Hank, i had to comment here because i couldn't figure out how to on your shorts. U can get air in your gas, i ran into this twice at my local self pay station. First time i wasn't sure what was happening but i knew the pump was changing pressure as i was getting gas. i finally shut it off because i had put more in the truck then the capacity of the tank.. The gauge read half a tank on the truck. i called them, they inspected it and the transport had left a valve shut that should have been open. they adjusted the charge and i had also found out a fellow employee ran into the same problem. I couple weeks later it happened and again, this time i quickly let go of the nozzle and witnessed the gallons on the pump continue to roll up on the amount, indicating that the was air in the line and it was still trying to pressure up. called them again and they found that the transport had made the same mistake. It can happen
What a treat! I loved the Lady Astronauts series and am very excited for a space mystery from Mary AND a Hank Green mystery. Plus from the depths of the NaNoWriMo slog, this was really inspiring.
I loved every bit of this 💕🥰💕 When it ended I thought I had a connection issue. I was so surprised when it ended! I wanted you two to keep going!! 😂 Would absolutely listen to more of this 💕
@shadowofthecandle if you want more, check out A Half-Built Garden by Ruthanna Emrys. It's Jewish not only in content but you can feel it in the moral viewpoint of the protagonist.
Embarrassingly I preordered this book, and then promptly forgot it was coming out until this video. Thank you!!! A wonderful chat with two of my favorite authors!
This was a delightful conversation! I had no idea you two know each other, but it makes so much sense. I love listening to Writing Excuses, and I still remember when MRK accidently became a narrator via Escape Pod. It was delightful! And obv I love everything Hank does or I wouldn't be here right now. I love this mashup of two of my favorite communities! More Hank and Mary Robinette please!
This is awesome. I'm so happy you made this and it popped up in my notifications. I really needed help writing my books and this was extremely helpful. Thank you for taking the time to do this.
Mary Robinette Kowal... Hmm, I know that name.... google, google, google, AH!! The Lady Astronauts!! I love those books so much. One particular story beat in The Relentless Moon means a great deal to me. Very glad to add The Spare Man to my library.
I didn't know you knew Mary Robinette Kowol. I got into her books years and years ago through the podcast she did with Brandan Sanderson, Writing Excuses. Still haven't written that book I wanted to write, though.
25:50 The first thing that popped into my head was Photocopy because you're copying a photo, seems somewhat self explanatory as a word and kind of instructional, copy the photo, photocopy. I don't know if that's what you're talking about though. I'd love a video that went into greater depth about that language!
Great example! You can break it down even further - photograph is used as a verb, and photo could be seen as a shortened version of it. So it's telling you 2 actions to take.
Niche comment: I had somehow not put together that MRK the author and MRK narrator of the October Daye books was the same person and spent like 15 min of this interview thinking “why is her voice so familiar and soothing but why do I keep waiting for her to break into sarcasm?”. Anyway great interview!
It shocks me how similar my methods are to you two. I have an app on my phone called "colornote" that lets me track writing an average of 250 words per day. I create a checklist with each date and a widget on my phone's home screen counts up, up, up, up, as I get further behind. It feels great to write 2000 words over a weekend and then cross out 8 days, the count of being behind going from a scary 17 to a reasonable 9. I ALSO have to keep up with writing or my shower time where all of my ideas happen, doesn't happen. Same brain.
Hey Hank, here is a public service announcement. The holidays are coming up. People drink more, alchohol and coffee. Strong alcohol + Strong Coffee=Light Headedness. Both of these can make the blood in your brain thinner. I had one vodka martini and one Nitro Cold Brew can(which I don't think has NO2 or nitrous oxide in it, which would only make things worse) and that did it. I went to one of those hip places that sell coffee and alcohol (including cocktails). A Screwdriver or Negroni (one of my favorites) would have made things worse because of the higher alcohol content. Anyway, I know you are the science one, so pass this along.
Just in case you didn't hear, @CityNerd ranked Missoula, MT as the 3rd best "city" to survive the coming climate change. You're so well positioned. Good job.
I wrote 3 books in the last 3 years, and I'm almost done with the 4th. Then, the entire series will be written.... I have not published a single one. I know they will be drowned out by the multitude of other options being self-published, if I don't market them. I have no idea how to manage marketing myself and my book, and managing my seizures at the same time. Is there any way to publish your first book without sinking into obscurity immediately?
I just had to pause the video at "4thewords". Are you kidding me.... As a writer with ADHD who grew up on GaiaOnline you are tELLING ME I CAN RP MY WAY THROUGH THIS MADDENING PROCESS? WHERE HAS THIS BEEN ALL MY CAREER?? I want to cry with joy.
These books sound awesome and I love how Kowal described her approach to writing, and it's so interesting to hear how different writers conceive of their goals and challenges in different ways. Makes it seem like writing fiction professionally isn't just A Job, it's subtly a different job in different hands. But man, this button board stuff... If the most interesting thing that happened is something that could've been total gibberish and was never evaluated one way or another, then that feels like an indictment of the whole premise!!
Hey Hank I keep seeing companies lying and saying it's ok for them to use plastic packaging because it's a biproduct and then sharing citations that don't account for the fact that 90%+ of US plastic is burned instead of recycled or going to landfill. It's a worry
"that was LITERALLY my job" AHHHHH I GET IT IT'S BECAUSE SHE WAS A PUPPETEER AKA L I T E R A L L Y MANIPULATING FABRIC STITCHED TOGETHER TO CAUSE EMOTIONS HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Hey Hank! Why is it that I can’t see dust in the air with my lights on, but a single ray of sunshine comes through the window and I can see every single dust particle that has ever existed?!?
Ok...I want to read this book and I don't like to know anything about a book before I read it. I'm going to go get it and read it and come back afterward to finish watching this video.
Wait, even the *author* doesn’t know who did it until the end?! At least in the Agatha Christie model, anyway? It sounds a bit more fun to write it that way actually…
dear hank, i dont have twitter so i can't tell you. But you asked for self titled songs that explain the band. Can i please direct you to S Club 7's, 'S Club Party'?
So does your room have a theme??(looking behind you lol) Cause my room doesn’t have a theme, it’s just a bunch of random things I like and cherish (like a tiny zen garden I got for Christmas or my little pink dodger bat I got when I was 7). But my boyfriend thinks it looks unorganized and cluttered lol. If someone who is hecka smart and is famous has no theme in their room then I can too right?! 😭
"it's amazing the extent to which the only thing that will get me to write a story is feeling like no one else can do it for me" WELP. W E L P. as a person with a disability, who writes about a person with a disability...... this is........ WELP.
If this was a podcast, where Hank talks shop with authors, I would listen. Also, I would be on it if asked.
MRK has a podcast called Writing Excuses if you want to hear more from her!
I love this idea. I know what hank needs in his life is more podcasts to produce
Me too me too 💕💕💕
@@emilytopham5069 Thanks!
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the extra layer of the the cat basically saying thank you is just. so good. so so so good.
As a weekly listener of Writing Excuses this is such a lovely surprise !
Same! Now I want to see Hank green be a guest on writing excuses…
Where do you listen to that ive been looking for that!
Oh, I am very excited for a Hank Green mystery story! Great conversation. Mary seems awesome.
Oh I LOVED the conversation about skillsets! It's always interesting to hear about how writers develop their characters, as somehow who primarily writes poetry and microfiction
Also I cannot stop thinking about how inspiring it must be to write next to a faux spaceship portal, like, wow. Combines inspiration from being on the way to somewhere and inspiration from being in SPACE
Looking at unique challenges like having a disability as a drive to develop a special skillset was incredibly insightful. I was aware of this concept for individual cases of course but I never really generalized this concept so broadly in this concise way. I was never consciously aware of how universally this applies to every single human being.
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Back on my troubled younger days Mary Robinette Kowal treated me with extraordinary amd undeserved kindness at World Fantasy in DC. Absolutely a delight!
Currently drowning under the 10k I'm behind in my nano wordcount, this video couldn't have come at a better time to boost my writing mood. (Also would totally listen to another 30 min of cat stories. Those little bits at the end were amazing lol)
Same here!
I love mary soooooo much. Amazing author, amazing voice actress, amazing on writing excuses.
She is pretty amazing, but just so you know her name is Mary Robinette not Mary, like her first name is two words.
I couldn’t stop reading it! More, please, Mary!!
Hank, i had to comment here because i couldn't figure out how to on your shorts. U can get air in your gas, i ran into this twice at my local self pay station. First time i wasn't sure what was happening but i knew the pump was changing pressure as i was getting gas. i finally shut it off because i had put more in the truck then the capacity of the tank.. The gauge read half a tank on the truck. i called them, they inspected it and the transport had left a valve shut that should have been open. they adjusted the charge and i had also found out a fellow employee ran into the same problem. I couple weeks later it happened and again, this time i quickly let go of the nozzle and witnessed the gallons on the pump continue to roll up on the amount, indicating that the was air in the line and it was still trying to pressure up. called them again and they found that the transport had made the same mistake. It can happen
What an ending!!! My heart!
the way the end cut off with that bombshell changing my view of cats 😭
The hard cut at the end was also perfection and now I need a button board
The Carl Saga was my entrance into sci-fi, so I'm very happy to hear that Hank is contiuously writing!
"talk to me about the joy, as well"
alright i'm crying.
What a treat! I loved the Lady Astronauts series and am very excited for a space mystery from Mary AND a Hank Green mystery. Plus from the depths of the NaNoWriMo slog, this was really inspiring.
She is pretty amazing, but just so you know her name is Mary Robinette not Mary, like her first name is two words.
@@vlogerhood ah, thank you!
I loved every bit of this 💕🥰💕
When it ended I thought I had a connection issue. I was so surprised when it ended! I wanted you two to keep going!! 😂 Would absolutely listen to more of this 💕
OMG HI MARY ROBINETTE KOWAL!!!! I love the Lady Astronaut series!!!! Thank you for the Jewish representation in sci-fi ❤
You're welcome! I'm glad you like them.
@shadowofthecandle if you want more, check out A Half-Built Garden by Ruthanna Emrys. It's Jewish not only in content but you can feel it in the moral viewpoint of the protagonist.
@@WhiteWizard42 thank, I'll look it up!
Embarrassingly I preordered this book, and then promptly forgot it was coming out until this video.
Thank you!!! A wonderful chat with two of my favorite authors!
Thin Man movies where the best! Used to rent them from the library and watch with my mom and sisters
This was a delightful conversation! I had no idea you two know each other, but it makes so much sense. I love listening to Writing Excuses, and I still remember when MRK accidently became a narrator via Escape Pod. It was delightful! And obv I love everything Hank does or I wouldn't be here right now. I love this mashup of two of my favorite communities! More Hank and Mary Robinette please!
Hello how are you doing today?
This is awesome. I'm so happy you made this and it popped up in my notifications. I really needed help writing my books and this was extremely helpful. Thank you for taking the time to do this.
Well that's a crossover I didn't expect but makes total sense.
I just read and loved The Spare Man and was so excited to see this video pop up!
So glad this came up listen I ng to this while writing!!
Why does this end so abruptly with the reveal of potential Cat sentience? lol
Ah this video is wonderful!
More please!
HOLY FUCK THE MOST ICONIC CROSSOVER OF ALL TIME
I love 4thewords!
Mary Robinette Kowal... Hmm, I know that name.... google, google, google, AH!! The Lady Astronauts!! I love those books so much. One particular story beat in The Relentless Moon means a great deal to me. Very glad to add The Spare Man to my library.
Hello how are you doing today?
I watched (5 of 6 of) the Thin Man movies last week so this is exciting
I didn't know you knew Mary Robinette Kowol. I got into her books years and years ago through the podcast she did with Brandan Sanderson, Writing Excuses. Still haven't written that book I wanted to write, though.
25:50 The first thing that popped into my head was Photocopy because you're copying a photo, seems somewhat self explanatory as a word and kind of instructional, copy the photo, photocopy. I don't know if that's what you're talking about though. I'd love a video that went into greater depth about that language!
Great example! You can break it down even further - photograph is used as a verb, and photo could be seen as a shortened version of it. So it's telling you 2 actions to take.
I need more cat button board stories
You can watch Elsie do her button thing on my UA-cam channel.
I love both of these people! It makes me happy to see your friends!
This was such a good time, thank you for the listen
Niche comment: I had somehow not put together that MRK the author and MRK narrator of the October Daye books was the same person and spent like 15 min of this interview thinking “why is her voice so familiar and soothing but why do I keep waiting for her to break into sarcasm?”.
Anyway great interview!
Another video I didn't know I needed... or that I could have. Thank you both for making two seemingly separate worlds collide yet again :)
what a wonderful conversation! patiently waiting for your new book, hank 💞
I just signed up for 4thewords and i'm already so happy I have it. Thanks!
It shocks me how similar my methods are to you two. I have an app on my phone called "colornote" that lets me track writing an average of 250 words per day. I create a checklist with each date and a widget on my phone's home screen counts up, up, up, up, as I get further behind. It feels great to write 2000 words over a weekend and then cross out 8 days, the count of being behind going from a scary 17 to a reasonable 9. I ALSO have to keep up with writing or my shower time where all of my ideas happen, doesn't happen. Same brain.
Hey Hank, here is a public service announcement. The holidays are coming up. People drink more, alchohol and coffee. Strong alcohol + Strong Coffee=Light Headedness. Both of these can make the blood in your brain thinner. I had one vodka martini and one Nitro Cold Brew can(which I don't think has NO2 or nitrous oxide in it, which would only make things worse) and that did it. I went to one of those hip places that sell coffee and alcohol (including cocktails). A Screwdriver or Negroni (one of my favorites) would have made things worse because of the higher alcohol content. Anyway, I know you are the science one, so pass this along.
thoroughly enjoyed the book talk, but now i need to know more about how insanely cool cats are!!
I made from scratch a 1920’s themed Harry Potter universe murder mystery for my friend’s bachelorette party with the Agatha Christie method. Way fun!
Just in case you didn't hear, @CityNerd ranked Missoula, MT as the 3rd best "city" to survive the coming climate change. You're so well positioned. Good job.
i've been obsessing over the Lady Astronaut series for weeks now - PERFECT!! (and now i have to get the spare man, too :D)
I wrote 3 books in the last 3 years, and I'm almost done with the 4th. Then, the entire series will be written.... I have not published a single one. I know they will be drowned out by the multitude of other options being self-published, if I don't market them. I have no idea how to manage marketing myself and my book, and managing my seizures at the same time. Is there any way to publish your first book without sinking into obscurity immediately?
I just had to pause the video at "4thewords".
Are you kidding me.... As a writer with ADHD who grew up on GaiaOnline you are tELLING ME I CAN RP MY WAY THROUGH THIS MADDENING PROCESS? WHERE HAS THIS BEEN ALL MY CAREER?? I want to cry with joy.
RIGHT?!?! It is deeply helpful and effective.
Whoever liked this just now and reminded me this actually existed is a gift. Thank you
Hello how are you doing today?
HI ELSIE!
This was such an interesting conversation.
“It’s like the “Thin Man” movies, but in space.”
Me: Sold!
I love MRK but I mostly know her from being the narrator of one of my favorite book series in audiobook format!
The October Daye books by Seanan McGuire? I've been wanting to try the audios for those now that I know MRK reads them!
@@emilytopham5069 She’s so unequivocally Toby in my mind that when I hear her speak elsewhere it’s actually weird for me.
Hello how are you doing today?
Why does this great discussion have 1.3 million views but only 500 likes???!
ok i'm ACTUALLY in tears by that ending????????
As someone who doesn't know anything about the publishing industry, can someone explain a bit more about the issues they're talking about at 28:30?
Hank is the the reason I read her books… so good!
Hello how are you doing today?
I need more hank explaining little known science...I crave it 😐
Yay for Elsie cameo!!
Hello how are you doing today?
Bought the book! Definitely need to see this cat in action with the button board.
These books sound awesome and I love how Kowal described her approach to writing, and it's so interesting to hear how different writers conceive of their goals and challenges in different ways. Makes it seem like writing fiction professionally isn't just A Job, it's subtly a different job in different hands.
But man, this button board stuff... If the most interesting thing that happened is something that could've been total gibberish and was never evaluated one way or another, then that feels like an indictment of the whole premise!!
I LOVE that her honest pitch was "I want X but in space."
Hey Hank I keep seeing companies lying and saying it's ok for them to use plastic packaging because it's a biproduct and then sharing citations that don't account for the fact that 90%+ of US plastic is burned instead of recycled or going to landfill.
It's a worry
Great interview! I'll request her book from the library, also I love her cardigan and her cat:)
Update I've read it and it was fantastic and I got a physical copy:)
"that was LITERALLY my job"
AHHHHH I GET IT IT'S BECAUSE SHE WAS A PUPPETEER AKA L I T E R A L L Y MANIPULATING FABRIC STITCHED TOGETHER TO CAUSE EMOTIONS HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Hey Hank!
Why is it that I can’t see dust in the air with my lights on, but a single ray of sunshine comes through the window and I can see every single dust particle that has ever existed?!?
Where can I watch the biology and ecology videos hank made long ago?
Did this end abruptly at 36 minutes on purpose?
the phrase "there were certain science fictional elements that I wanted to use to kill people" would be really creepy out of context.
Is there a part 2 to this interview? I love it!
Chronic pain & PTSD??? Okay well now I'm sold on this book
Great ending
Hank I didn't know you're a writer ❤❤❤
!!!!! So excited for this conversation, commenting before I even finish it! Lovely sweater MRK, do I detect an Icelandic influence on the pattern?
And just a lovely Elsie anecdote to finish with! What a delightful conversation for my last hour of work today 😻
You do! I didn't make it. I got it the last time I was back in Iceland.
Hey how do you find specific info on specific topics
Was there an asian-caribbean character in Hank’s books? I feel like I’ve heard this before but I can’t remember
Ok...I want to read this book and I don't like to know anything about a book before I read it. I'm going to go get it and read it and come back afterward to finish watching this video.
Some people, and I mean these two, are many faceted diamonds.
I am a sheet of glass.
Okay, I guess I'm reading her back catalog. 🙉
Played it today
That cat bit at the end surprised me
FYI you might not know this but you have two brothers in a band called The Proclaimers
"New way of doing it" he says. As if fanfic authors haven't been writing gut wrenching angst since the 60s.
Wait, even the *author* doesn’t know who did it until the end?! At least in the Agatha Christie model, anyway?
It sounds a bit more fun to write it that way actually…
Sure this is neat and all but where can I get one of them porthole video screens
off topic, me and a few coworkers can't agree how far away space is. were getting mixed numbers. 62 miles, 60k miles 238k and so on. help us.
dear hank, i dont have twitter so i can't tell you. But you asked for self titled songs that explain the band. Can i please direct you to S Club 7's, 'S Club Party'?
"i can't spoil anything but" i like how there's a VERY CONSPICUOUS edit like after 5 seconds lmfaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
11:57 holy shit, authors REALLY DO THIS in their chair?
hmmm..... i like it.
So does your room have a theme??(looking behind you lol)
Cause my room doesn’t have a theme, it’s just a bunch of random things I like and cherish (like a tiny zen garden I got for Christmas or my little pink dodger bat I got when I was 7). But my boyfriend thinks it looks unorganized and cluttered lol. If someone who is hecka smart and is famous has no theme in their room then I can too right?! 😭
Holy crap!
AAAAAA MARY! 😄😄😄😄😄😄
She is pretty amazing, but just so you know her name is Mary Robinette not Mary, like her first name is two words.
@@vlogerhood Is it??? I just always assumed it was a middle name because there's no hyphen anywhere. Thats neat, thanks for letting me know!
"it's amazing the extent to which the only thing that will get me to write a story is feeling like no one else can do it for me"
WELP.
W E L P.
as a person with a disability, who writes about a person with a disability...... this is........ WELP.
There are very sharp cuts here, Hank. Relax. It's not a vlogbrothers video.
You that guy from journey into the microcosmos?
Took me a while to work out that that’s where the video ends and UA-cam hadn’t crashed
Hank where is the census breakdown video!
Hello how are you doing today?
Podcast when
hey John how's you'r brother Hank doing?
Hank can prob deliver one mean side eye.
Oh, odd hard cut end