🚨 New Version Alert! 🚨 Hi everyone! I’ve reedited and shortened this video to make it more engaging and fast-paced for viewers who enjoy action-packed content. The original had some slower moments, and I wanted to create a version that captures the best parts of the adventure while keeping it snappy. If you’re new here, welcome! And if you’ve seen the original, I’d love to hear your thoughts on this reedited version-does it hit the mark? Let me know in the comments below! 🎥🌨 Thank you for all your support-it means the world to me! 🙏
Thanks so much Chris. Was an epic one for sure and something we'll remember. Hard work, but we loved every minute. Glad you enjoyed the video mate. Thanks for dropping a comment. 👍🏻
Thanks so much mate. I thought I'd see if a shorter version worked better than the longer one. It has done better but it's not night and day. Thanks so much for watching it again. 👍
Yeah condensation was terrible that night. I should have opened the vent, but I was scared to touch it in the morning, just in-case the tent collapsed. 😂
My winter tents are a Tarptent Moment DW (Double Wall) and a Tarptent Scarp 2 person tent. Both are winterized with additional guy points and heavier duty main arch poles. A Tarptent Notch Li (Dyneema), also double wall, that uses my hiking poles to hold it up instead of the arched pole as in the Moment DW but otherwise similar in design with 2 doors and 2 vestibules. It WOULD withstand a pretty heavy snowfall and winds B/C I've added 4 fly hem stake points, reinforcing the stake loops with double circles of Tenacious Tape sandwiched over the fly hem where the narrow nylon loops are sewn on. It already has sufficient guy points, side and rear. So I THINK all 3 of my tents would withstand the gale you experienced well enough that I could sleep all night - with good earplugs, naturally!
Ah, interesting to hear the Notch Li would do well in those conditions. I've been looking at it for quite a while now. It's certainly been on my wishlist, but I always had a question mark about its storm worthiness. Would you recommend it?
@@trickofthetrail I'd recommend it for THREE SEASON use and handling an unexpected wind/snow storm. I like my "fortified" Tarptemt Moment DW for solo winter camping.
scuba diving gloves are warm even when wet . , used to wear them for winter mountain biking . . Hands would be steaming and wrinkled by the end of the day . But warm . That looked like a really tricky bit of work at the end guys .
Bumfluff tent. 🤣 Bonfus always have a backlog of orders, so they never have any in stock. However you can get it from Garage Grown Gear. They have the 2p outer and inner in stock. Glad you enjoyed the video good sir. 👍🏻
It really was Gary. It is one we will remember forever that's for sure. I was surprised the Unna struggled in those conditions. Like you say, I guess they aren't built for it. 🤷🏻 Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
Great video as always, did you see Bushman and Blue video today he talks about stretching your comfort zone to get more out of life, you guys have my respect, both of you.
Thanks Lesley. Out of interest, did you prefer it to the longer version? I thought I would do a little bit of an experiment to see what sort of content works better. I felt like the other video might have been a little too long.
@@trickofthetrail Ok sorry after re watching, I could see you are right but your ground sheet dose look lumpy 5:45. sorry for jumping to conclusion's. I was always told to scrap to bear ground as that's warmer then laying on snow.
This was great! Excellent to see this type of tent in testing British conditions. You see this tyoe billed as a popular 4 season tent in the States. They just don't seem to get the wind. I have a liteway pyraomm max, that I have tet to try, i have been trying every way to shoehorn a solid inner into it. I just can't be doing with mesh. Overall, the tent (and you) did well. Great video. What was the red tent, Unna? Was getting very distorted. What was your backup tent?
Thanks so much Dave, glad you enjoyed it mate. Shame some others don't feel the same way. Thanks for wading in on the comments, I appreciate the support. I was amazed at how well the tent coped with the conditions. I mean, it was obviously stupidly noisy and wouldn't be my first choice to take out in such windy conditions. However it's great to know that it can handle a proper battering. I'll be interested to see how you get on with the Liteway. That looks like a really well thought out tent. I should be getting the solid inner for the Bonfus to test later this week, so looking forward to trying that out. Yeah the other tent was an Unna. I think it struggled with the snow load and the wind hitting the rear panels. My four season tent is the Stone Glacier Skyscraper, which is basically a re-badged Slingfin Crossbow. I'll be out in that on Friday, in some potentially fairly windy conditions. Should be a tad more comfortable that the Bonfus I hope. 😬
@@twiggyescapes Cheers dude. Thought I'd give it a try. I'm a bit disappointed in the number of views on the first one. Yours is absolutely flying though. Great work.
Not snowshoes, my boots and micro spikes were just fine for those conditions and my feet were nice and warm, also no issues with grip. However yes, I need some better gloves. I did have two pairs with me, but they were both wet through. The ones I was complaining about on the way back are supposed to be waterproof, but clearly they aren't. Can you recommend some good waterproof ones? I prefer to layer my gloves, so something that isn't too thick is preferable. Thanks so much for watching mate. I hope you enjoyed it.
@@trickofthetrail I use Gore Tex glove shells with several pairs of liners of various thicknesses. GTX mitten shells work great with these liners as well. Gore Tex gear needs to be washed every spring and re-treated with spray-on REVIVEX DWR. and dried in a dryer to "set" the DWR. I don't like the results with NIKWAX treatments.
Ha ha. It actually handled the conditions amazingly well. I'm not sure the X-Mid would have fared so well. However yeah, it's not meant for these conditions really. As you say, far too noisy and it's not something I'll be replicating with this tent. It's nice to know it can withstand these conditions though.
Yeah I did actually have my four season tent with me, just in-case the Middus didn't hold up. Although I was fairly confident it would be okay, being a pyramid design, they are known to handle the wind and snow load well. Having said that I wouldn't purposely take it out in those conditions again. The reason for doing so (as I mentioned in the video) was to test it out and see how it handled the conditions. At least I now know what it's capable of now.
This shows exactly why you should not camp in these conditions. The risk of having to get emergency services out is unfair. All for a little UA-cam. I hope in future this is a lesson learnt
There wasn't a risk of having to get out the emergency services Jane. We knew the area well, expected these conditions and were fully prepared. It was a challenging situation but at no time were we in danger. In fact we were only 2.5 miles from the car and knew the snow was melting later in the morning. As you can see we were finding it hard going but were having a great time. There are risks with doing anything adventurous in life. If for one minute we thought we were in any danger then we wouldn't have done it. I even had my four season tent with me, just in case my lightweight one failed. I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the video.
@ hmmmm, if only we all could pre predict mountain conditions. Rule of mountaineers don’t put yourself there if avoidable. Sorry don’t buy it - and this could encourage people who are not experienced to give it a go. A completely unsuitable tent just to see if it stood the test. Really!
@@janepaterson-todd693 I appreciate your concern, and I fully understand why you might feel that way. However, I want to reassure you that we were well-prepared and didn’t take this trip lightly. While mountain conditions always carry an element of unpredictability, we closely monitored the forecast, knew the area exceptionally well, and had contingency plans in place. For instance, I brought my four-season tent as a backup and was ready to use it if needed. Testing my lightweight tent was part of the challenge, but it was a calculated decision. Pyramid-style tents, like the one I used, are known for their ability to handle high winds and snow loads when pitched correctly. While it wouldn’t be my first choice for a camp in these conditions, it was a good opportunity to test it whilst having a backup in place. I also want to note that the snow was due to melt the following morning, and we were only 2.5 miles from the car. At no point did we feel out of our depth, nor were we ever close to requiring emergency services. That said, I do believe we should give the audience credit for being able to distinguish between a well-prepared, carefully planned trip like this and something that’s reckless or dangerous. I always emphasize in my content the importance of experience, proper gear, and responsible decision-making when heading into the outdoors. I share my videos to inspire and entertain-not to encourage anyone to go beyond their limits unprepared. I hope this gives you more context and a bit more confidence in how seriously we approached this trip.
@@trickofthetrail it didn’t come across in the video. Who knew you had a 4 season stacked away for starters and lots more that didn’t show how to navigate these conditions. Let’s just leave it there. I am rather tired of seeing videos when people have a choice and put UA-cam first.
@@iqra9620 To test how it performs in such conditions. I do mention that in the video. Whilst it's not the most comfortable tent for those conditions, I certainly wouldn't say it is useless. It withstood the winds and snow load, where the Unna failed. Going forward it wouldn't be my first choice for such conditions, but at least I now know what it's capable of. I hope you enjoyed the video. Thanks for dropping a comment.
Not literally useless in the conditions, unless you really believe that the same night in the same place with _no tent_ but with all equipment otherwise identical would have been no less comfortable (which I don't).
🚨 New Version Alert! 🚨
Hi everyone! I’ve reedited and shortened this video to make it more engaging and fast-paced for viewers who enjoy action-packed content. The original had some slower moments, and I wanted to create a version that captures the best parts of the adventure while keeping it snappy.
If you’re new here, welcome! And if you’ve seen the original, I’d love to hear your thoughts on this reedited version-does it hit the mark? Let me know in the comments below! 🎥🌨
Thank you for all your support-it means the world to me! 🙏
Oh plop! Clicked on it cos I thought it were a new one!😅
@JackKlumpass Ah sorry mate, just trying a little experiment. I might not keep this one up. I'm just seeing which one performs better.
Brilliant mate. Well done both and thanks for taking us along.
Life’s too short to wrap yourself in cotton wool. Great to see this. Thanks
Thanks so much Chris. Was an epic one for sure and something we'll remember. Hard work, but we loved every minute. Glad you enjoyed the video mate. Thanks for dropping a comment. 👍🏻
Great video Mark. Well done for coping with it all. A really good watch once again.
Thanks for the video.👍🙂
Thanks so much mate. I thought I'd see if a shorter version worked better than the longer one. It has done better but it's not night and day. Thanks so much for watching it again. 👍
Awesome video mate 👍
Well thank you good sir.
What a beautiful atmosphere my friend! Simply brilliant presentation
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it. Was a fun one to film and put together.
A Genesis lover and I see !👊🏻🍻
Ha ha, yeah, good spot. Not many people get the reference. 🤷🏻
I instantly knew it! 👊🏻👍🏻
"you're a kite dancing in a hurricane Mr Bond..." [Spectre].
The condensation is nuts in these single wall tents , i had the same experience last winter and in September in the drakensberg mountains.
Yeah condensation was terrible that night. I should have opened the vent, but I was scared to touch it in the morning, just in-case the tent collapsed. 😂
My winter tents are a Tarptent Moment DW (Double Wall) and a Tarptent Scarp 2 person tent. Both are winterized with additional guy points and heavier duty main arch poles.
A Tarptent Notch Li (Dyneema), also double wall, that uses my hiking poles to hold it up instead of the arched pole as in the Moment DW but otherwise similar in design with 2 doors and 2 vestibules. It WOULD withstand a pretty heavy snowfall and winds B/C I've added 4 fly hem stake points, reinforcing the stake loops with double circles of Tenacious Tape sandwiched over the fly hem where the narrow nylon loops are sewn on. It already has sufficient guy points, side and rear.
So I THINK all 3 of my tents would withstand the gale you experienced well enough that I could sleep all night - with good earplugs, naturally!
Ah, interesting to hear the Notch Li would do well in those conditions. I've been looking at it for quite a while now. It's certainly been on my wishlist, but I always had a question mark about its storm worthiness. Would you recommend it?
@@trickofthetrail I'd recommend it for THREE SEASON use and handling an unexpected wind/snow storm.
I like my "fortified" Tarptemt Moment DW for solo winter camping.
Yeesh. I feel cold just watching this
Imagine how I felt editing it mate. I felt cold for hours. 😂
scuba diving gloves are warm even when wet . , used to wear them for winter mountain biking . .
Hands would be steaming and wrinkled by the end of the day . But warm .
That looked like a really tricky bit of work at the end guys .
Ah good tip mate. I really need to get better gloves for these sorts of conditions. I'll check those sorts of gloves out.
That's an interesting idea I suffer with cold hands in the wet especially thanks for the idea
Bumfluff tent tarp thing looks pretty good. Are they back in stock yet ? 1 or 2 human versions??. Great filmbtw old chap 😊🙏
Bumfluff tent. 🤣 Bonfus always have a backlog of orders, so they never have any in stock. However you can get it from Garage Grown Gear. They have the 2p outer and inner in stock.
Glad you enjoyed the video good sir. 👍🏻
Great challenging camp. Those are the memorable ones. That unna was pretty bashed up. They aren’t built for those conditions.
It really was Gary. It is one we will remember forever that's for sure.
I was surprised the Unna struggled in those conditions. Like you say, I guess they aren't built for it. 🤷🏻
Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
Great video 👍
Thanks mate. Glad you enjoyed it. Was a total blast to make and put together.
@trickofthetrail 🙂👍
Great video as always, did you see Bushman and Blue video today he talks about stretching your comfort zone to get more out of life, you guys have my respect, both of you.
Thanks Lesley. Out of interest, did you prefer it to the longer version? I thought I would do a little bit of an experiment to see what sort of content works better. I felt like the other video might have been a little too long.
Oh and no, I haven't watched Bushman and Blues new video yet. It's on my watch list though.
@trickofthetrail I've got a long attention span so like both! 😂
Why did you not clear the snow from inside your tent area/foot print?
Hey Tim. Sorry I'm not sure what you mean. At which point was there snow inside the tent, apart from the bit near the end where I'm packing up?
@@trickofthetrail Ok sorry after re watching, I could see you are right but your ground sheet dose look lumpy 5:45. sorry for jumping to conclusion's. I was always told to scrap to bear ground as that's warmer then laying on snow.
This was great! Excellent to see this type of tent in testing British conditions. You see this tyoe billed as a popular 4 season tent in the States. They just don't seem to get the wind. I have a liteway pyraomm max, that I have tet to try, i have been trying every way to shoehorn a solid inner into it. I just can't be doing with mesh. Overall, the tent (and you) did well.
Great video. What was the red tent, Unna? Was getting very distorted.
What was your backup tent?
Thanks so much Dave, glad you enjoyed it mate. Shame some others don't feel the same way. Thanks for wading in on the comments, I appreciate the support.
I was amazed at how well the tent coped with the conditions. I mean, it was obviously stupidly noisy and wouldn't be my first choice to take out in such windy conditions. However it's great to know that it can handle a proper battering. I'll be interested to see how you get on with the Liteway. That looks like a really well thought out tent. I should be getting the solid inner for the Bonfus to test later this week, so looking forward to trying that out.
Yeah the other tent was an Unna. I think it struggled with the snow load and the wind hitting the rear panels. My four season tent is the Stone Glacier Skyscraper, which is basically a re-badged Slingfin Crossbow. I'll be out in that on Friday, in some potentially fairly windy conditions. Should be a tad more comfortable that the Bonfus I hope. 😬
Hope it does well Mark ,attention span these days Is very short…. I’m interested in the 2 versions. I’ll watch the second one. Good luck 👍
@@twiggyescapes Cheers dude. Thought I'd give it a try. I'm a bit disappointed in the number of views on the first one. Yours is absolutely flying though. Great work.
Brutal is the key word 😂😂
Yeah, brutal is the keyword for sure mate. 😂
Next time with snowshoes? Maybe extra gloves? Mitten shells?
Norwegian saying; "There is no such thing as bad weather, only bad clothing."
Not snowshoes, my boots and micro spikes were just fine for those conditions and my feet were nice and warm, also no issues with grip. However yes, I need some better gloves. I did have two pairs with me, but they were both wet through. The ones I was complaining about on the way back are supposed to be waterproof, but clearly they aren't. Can you recommend some good waterproof ones? I prefer to layer my gloves, so something that isn't too thick is preferable.
Thanks so much for watching mate. I hope you enjoyed it.
@@trickofthetrail I use Gore Tex glove shells with several pairs of liners of various thicknesses. GTX mitten shells work great with these liners as well.
Gore Tex gear needs to be washed every spring and re-treated with spray-on REVIVEX DWR. and dried in a dryer to "set" the DWR. I don't like the results with NIKWAX treatments.
I was wondering about your tent but not anymore its one big noisy expensive bin bag😅 Will stick with my X-mid solid 1.
Ha ha. It actually handled the conditions amazingly well. I'm not sure the X-Mid would have fared so well. However yeah, it's not meant for these conditions really. As you say, far too noisy and it's not something I'll be replicating with this tent. It's nice to know it can withstand these conditions though.
@@trickofthetrail Yeah haha if you do a thru hike then its a good one and quite safe to use. With the solid inner later one should be pretty cosy.
I have both tents.Pyramid is much more windproof than x mid.
I think you should have bought a proper 4 season tent, not a £500 tarp!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah I did actually have my four season tent with me, just in-case the Middus didn't hold up. Although I was fairly confident it would be okay, being a pyramid design, they are known to handle the wind and snow load well. Having said that I wouldn't purposely take it out in those conditions again. The reason for doing so (as I mentioned in the video) was to test it out and see how it handled the conditions. At least I now know what it's capable of now.
This shows exactly why you should not camp in these conditions. The risk of having to get emergency services out is unfair. All for a little UA-cam. I hope in future this is a lesson learnt
There wasn't a risk of having to get out the emergency services Jane. We knew the area well, expected these conditions and were fully prepared. It was a challenging situation but at no time were we in danger. In fact we were only 2.5 miles from the car and knew the snow was melting later in the morning. As you can see we were finding it hard going but were having a great time. There are risks with doing anything adventurous in life. If for one minute we thought we were in any danger then we wouldn't have done it. I even had my four season tent with me, just in case my lightweight one failed.
I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the video.
@ hmmmm, if only we all could pre predict mountain conditions. Rule of mountaineers don’t put yourself there if avoidable. Sorry don’t buy it - and this could encourage people who are not experienced to give it a go. A completely unsuitable tent just to see if it stood the test. Really!
@@janepaterson-todd693 I appreciate your concern, and I fully understand why you might feel that way. However, I want to reassure you that we were well-prepared and didn’t take this trip lightly. While mountain conditions always carry an element of unpredictability, we closely monitored the forecast, knew the area exceptionally well, and had contingency plans in place. For instance, I brought my four-season tent as a backup and was ready to use it if needed.
Testing my lightweight tent was part of the challenge, but it was a calculated decision. Pyramid-style tents, like the one I used, are known for their ability to handle high winds and snow loads when pitched correctly. While it wouldn’t be my first choice for a camp in these conditions, it was a good opportunity to test it whilst having a backup in place.
I also want to note that the snow was due to melt the following morning, and we were only 2.5 miles from the car. At no point did we feel out of our depth, nor were we ever close to requiring emergency services.
That said, I do believe we should give the audience credit for being able to distinguish between a well-prepared, carefully planned trip like this and something that’s reckless or dangerous. I always emphasize in my content the importance of experience, proper gear, and responsible decision-making when heading into the outdoors. I share my videos to inspire and entertain-not to encourage anyone to go beyond their limits unprepared.
I hope this gives you more context and a bit more confidence in how seriously we approached this trip.
@@trickofthetrail it didn’t come across in the video. Who knew you had a 4 season stacked away for starters and lots more that didn’t show how to navigate these conditions. Let’s just leave it there. I am rather tired of seeing videos when people have a choice and put UA-cam first.
@@janepaterson-todd693Then don't watch videos you're tired of watching 🙄
Useless tent.Don;t know why you used it.
@@iqra9620 To test how it performs in such conditions. I do mention that in the video. Whilst it's not the most comfortable tent for those conditions, I certainly wouldn't say it is useless. It withstood the winds and snow load, where the Unna failed.
Going forward it wouldn't be my first choice for such conditions, but at least I now know what it's capable of.
I hope you enjoyed the video. Thanks for dropping a comment.
@@trickofthetrail I did enjoyed the video and hat off for your bravery.
Not literally useless in the conditions, unless you really believe that the same night in the same place with _no tent_ but with all equipment otherwise identical would have been no less comfortable (which I don't).