American brands also don’t care about brand recognition. Since the 60’s you could buy a Corolla and can still get one today. Chevy goes from Nova to Cavalier to Cobalt, to Cruze. Then there are the ones in between like the Sonic, Spectrum, Prizm, and those are just the compact cars. The same can be said for the Subcompact, midsize, and full size. An Accord is still an Accord, a Civic is a Civic, a Camry is a Camry, an Elantra is an Elantra, a Sonata is still a Sonata. There is a huge value in long term name recognition. Your great uncle may have had a Corolla, your mom’s first car may have been an Elantra, and you can still buy one of them for yourself, especially if they have fond memories of those cars.
Then how did the bull known as the Ford Taurus 🐂 survive over 35 years while the other domestic brands were constantly changed names trying to push for the next big thing? Sure, it suffered a long and drawn out sales slip after the mistakes Ford made between 1996 and 1999. But it was the Subaru Outback of the domestic sedans and wagons before Subaru's Outback wagon and Toyota's Camry sedan capitalized on Ford's mistake. RIP to the Taurus, the Taurus SHO, and the related Mercury Sable and Lincoln MKS badged versions, late 1985-2019. Hopefully Ford revives The Bull 🐂 as an EV soon. Replacing The Bull 🐂 with the Mustang Mach E crossover was this generation's mistake. It should've been a TAURUS instead of a Mustang In Name Only.
American sedans are dying. Yet Japanese brands sedans are still doing fine. And now all categories of American brand vehicles are struggling since people are accepting their lack of quality control.
Lower quality could be accepted if prices were lower to match, but they're not. And the cheap cars they have now aren't as robust as the ones of old. Compare an old Chevy Cavalier to a modern Chevy Trax. Both are cheap, but the former is more reliable and cheaper
American car companies have never asked what consumer want, they tell them what they can buy. Euro and Asian car companies tend to listen more. Plus US designed car don't actually fit outside of US ultrawide streets and higways. The current crop of trash like the Ranger and Ram are approaching the max dimensions of Oz road rules and can't be parked in older inner city carparks here...
Mind you, American car company =/= American designed; the only thing keeping GM cars at least decent was their borrowing from Opel, Daewoo, and Holden (though the cars from AU never really sold well here - likely on purpose by GM).
I have 3 sisters and we fit all our shit and our bodies just fine in our Honda civic/ our mercury cougar, our Nissan Sentra, our Kia forte, our Oldsmobile cutlass, our Saturn sc2, and we all 6feet tall so I literally don’t comprehend the single parents with one kid thinking they need one of those to go grocery shopping. They literally just fell for marketing, because not even in USA do people here need or use them, that’s only about 25% of buyers here ever actually need it, and an even smaller number that need it daily.
My all time favorite American car is not the Mustang, or the F-150, or any Tesla, it is Crown Vic, the iconic Ford Panther sedan that was built tough, practical, and dead-reliable. Cabbies drove them, cops abused them, Cleetus races them, and they just keep going and going and going, I just hope Ford can build something with the same level of reliability and practicality that is not a SUV or truck
Sedans are gone for the most part is because they figured out how to cheat EPA guidelines with trucks and bigger profit margins for SUV, CUV and PU.The US brands made them crappy on purpose as well IMHO. The last few sedans were decent (Fusion, Malibu, the 200 was junk)I traded my 3G TL Type S and got the RDX. This is my first new CUV but it drives like sedan and I think they are more versatile than sedans. Lastly I like wagons as well but they have the same stigma as minivans.
American sedans will return if the economy gets better. A lot of people can only afford one car, and if you can only have one, then you're going to pick something that maximizes practicality above all else, which usually means an SUV or corssover.
The US domestic sedan began to fail in the late 70's, 80's, 90's and 00's. The Japanese made smart decisions on size, efficiency, production, and of course price. Our domestic sedans quality was a joke, especially interior materials, layout and ergonomics. Our American sedans should've evolved to be rwd, stylish, and efficient. We love our rwd sedans in the US. Look at the 2005 Chrysler 300, Charger, Teslas model S and 3. Big, stylish rwd sedans
Great show. Being a 70 year old man, I remember most of these cars. I think the worse years for america cars were the 70's and 80's. My first car was a 64 ford fairlane, and my car now is a 2020 ram hemi. I like the hemi the best. Just sayin. I subscribed.
Thanks for the sub! I hear no car ever amounts to the first. I had a 5.0L T-bird and out of all the cars I've had that still remains one of my top faves.
There are still two sedans that are selling well: the Tesla 3 and Y. Maybe not so much because they're sedans but more because they're electric. Also maybe the Corolla and Civic due to their excellent reputation.
I’ve been an American sedan lover for as long as I could drive. I’ve driven all other kinds, SUV, pickup, coupe, etc. I always come back to a sedan. Too bad they don’t make affordable, American sedans anymore
Well, I think there's an argument to be made that the new Buick Envista is a kind of a higher drive position, fast-back sedan. GM calls it a cross-over - but it's really more like a different kind of American sedan for the future, than a cross-over or SUV.
Awesome video! Kinda sad to see sedans getting the short end of the stick right now, but they will definitely not disappear completely. Especially if we're talking about higher-class vehicles, I bet seeing the current I7 as a hatchback will be pure nightmare fuel! 😂 Though I can see how they're trying to minimize their presence, since even the EQS, electrified a-la S-class is a liftback, and not a sedan. But again, their complete extinction is very unlikely!
Before car companies, ESPECIALLY AMERICAN CAR COMPANIES, start discontinuing cars, they need to first ask themselves, is this worth losing a customer base they may or may not come back when we finally decide our existing cars are too much to afford and waste too much gas and we want to build small cars again. Then they need to ask their customer base, what do YOU want to see in your next whatever sedan they own. Because I own a Malibu. While I love Whitney (My car) and I’ve had it since highschool, I could’ve told GM a million things wrong with my car, the Malibu that came after my car and why I chose this generation Malibu (2013-2016) over the latest (and last) generation, I could’ve told them why I won’t be considering a Malibu for my next car and why I’ll most likely be leaving the GM brand as a whole unless I need a suv or truck.
Hey Buddy. Love your videos and what not, but two things, having to do with the same person. First, its Lee last name pronounced like "ai-uh-kow-kuh" and yes we do know how he came to head up Chrysler. Henry Ford II str8 up fired him and so he needs a new job and Bam! To Chrysler he went. Thats all though, your doing a great job, so keep it up!
I'm a sedan and coupe guy myself. I never like SUV's and most people don't know how to drive them *cough ...woman *cough, but seriously though it really should require a drivers license endorsement like a CDL does, as most of them aren't aware their a bigger vehicle + can flip over easier. People who drive them solely rely on the back up camera and don't know how to use their mirrors in tandem.
My neighbor had a last Gen Malibu, a Dart, and a 200. He had so many issues with every single one. Saw them broke down on the side of the road a few times. Heck he even had a rental Camry and I saw it broke down once. So maybe ignorance plays a factor. But the issues he had made it obvious not to buy American anything. He has a Mazda3 now. Seems to work okay. Was in a Fiesta once and I thought it was one of the worse things evern the interior was just falling apart with basically no use. Its materials and build quality were so low just existence made it rot away. I drove a last gen Chevy Cruz and it was so bad. The interior wasnt 10 years old but the plastics were falling apart. The shifter was the most flimsy cheapest thing I ever touched. The car was so low it couldn't get into the drive way. A problem many sedans suffer. Automakers are so desperate to make them look sporty they become very impractical pushing people to more reasonably shaped CUVs. If you see old sedans from the 40s or before they are higher up and about as tall as many CUVs. Just more practical. It seems consumers wish to return to such proportions. The Cruz wasnt very comfortable and had very little glass and felt like a dungeon to me. Even larger sedans in my experience arent at all comfortable. I think American brands also literally make no or very small profits with sedans and cars. If you look into reports, wording, and interviews many of them talk about how unprofitable or small the profits were on cars. I guess they just have decades of baggage with unions and suppliers and inefficiency. They barely make any American made cars anynore and still struggle with costs. Even their trucks have very low build quality and interiors fall apart. But truck buyers stubbornly dont care. When I asked a guy why his top of the line F-150 had shaky door panals and flimsy materials he said oh its a ford I knew that before getting it.
New to your channel and long time history buff especially classic cars of America and Europe. Sadly the new Ford Taurus is nice to look at and a great price, the Lincoln Zephyr is a sharp four door with up to date interior and a low price. As we know they are selling well but not in North America we just get SUV's, Crossovers, and other square boxes by popular demand. I do not think EVs are 100% the answer. Sure if they fall out of the sky built and charged for life and magically disappear after ten years of use then sure they are zero emissions. Don't forget the Lincoln Continental we had just a few years ago. But wait Ford designed that for China where it still is and we had it for just a few years. I do not have nor want a $100,000 F-150 or Navigator L. I pray the Big three, I mean two listen to what consumers want and the price can approach what we are charging in China and the Middle East. Thanks for letting me rant.
They honestly sold out! Lol Globalization truly ruined American Car Manufacturing. But without it, we don't get Toyotas and Hondas we've grown to love.
LIttle bummed you referred to the release of the Mustang (at 15:19) and showed a Mustang II. There are so many better Mustangs to show vs. the '74 to '78 models. Great video (so far - still have seven minutes to watch) otherwise.
Sedans returning as EVs would be impractical. Majority of EVs have their batteries in the underbelly of the car making a crossover or SUV the more practical in design. An EV that is a sedan would probably look like a Subaru Outback SUS (late 90s to early 2000s).
uh other than a Hiatus from 2013-2018 the Ford Ranger has existed since 1983 like the Toyota Camry has sedans are generally smaller than they were 50 years ago originally the Corolla was a subcompact and eventually became a compact car in the early 90s accept for the hatchback there are some areas in the us that have narrow cobblestone streets like South end Boston for example its mainly the popularity of Sport Utility Vehicles that have slowly killed the sedan other than the few that remain such as the Corolla Civic Camry Accord etc. granted if you went by release the Corolla has been sold in the US since 1968 as a 1969 model and originally started as a subcompact car in 1969 only becoming a compact in 1991 the Camry and Accord originally started as Compact cars moving up to mid size in 1990s and Camry has been the best selling car in the class in the US for 27 of the last 28 model years while the top selling vehicle over all for the last 43 model years since 1982 has been the Ford F Series pickup truck which is also in its 48th year as the best selling truck over all
@@BrkDownMedia it’s a little bigger all around, big trunk, better leg room, the big 3.5 ecoboost, paddle shifters, parallel parks itself, THX stereo with factory dvd, Bluetooth, stock 20” wheels, adaptive cruise, and I bought it for $6900… buying the wifey a 2016-2018 MKX next…
Just to say as I could see it was once seen a lot of Cadillacs and Lincolns now it is all Mercedes Benz, BMW, and Audi besides European car makers are taking the cake in American sales. The way that even Boeing an airplane maker is becoming Extinct, sure European and Asian car manufactures are making sedans left and right to say no Town Cars, nor Fleetwoods only S-Class and 7 Series large sedans, that even the Germans are eating America’s lunch and Volkswagen is just the tip of the iceberg. Well to say that even European cars are making cars in the USA also that Mercedes Benz are made in Alabama, and BMW in South Carolina as well as the Korean car brands; then Chinese car brands in electric cars enter the US will bankrupt the big 3 and Tesla or to say the Big 4 because Tesla is included. Chinese EVs are equivalent to Japan and for a reason why the US government put sanctions on China but on the plus side a Chinese made American branded car came out to be better quality than their American made counterparts. As to say the only hope for the American sedan to be bought is that Chrysler to say now that Stellantis is pulling out crap left and right is that they are selling Chrysler; that was once merged with Daimler and Mercedes Benz once took the American concept and ruin their reputation, to say why sedans are not dead in Germany but after all Germany is doing better than Detroit for a reason why people prefer to buy a German car brand over a Cadillac but to say why Mercedes Benz split from Chrysler. Now Chrysler should have been bought by Toyota long ago even though the first Corolla made in America was sold as a Chevrolet Nova and a Geo Prizm and Chevrolet Prizm sure Toyota made the Pontiac Vibe; now that the Toyota factory that made the first Toyotas in the USA is now a Tesla factory in Fremont, California. Just to say that the only way to do is that Chrysler becomes the leader as to be acquired by Toyota and then certain Toyota models including the ones sold in Japan to be sold under the Dodge, Chrysler and Jeep names even the Tundra pickup truck will be based on a Ram. That way Ford and GM should follow Toyota and that way Chrysler being owned by Toyota could end up with police departments only buying Dodge police cars, to be a monopoly of police cars to be more like Microsoft on PCs. That way Chrysler being bought by Toyota it will turn the Dodge brand into the monopoly of police cars and the secret service and the government ending up using Chrysler vehicles that even the presidential car end up to be a Chrysler if Toyota where to buy Chrysler that even Jeep could be included that Chrysler could be the monopoly of the vehicles for the US government.
On the other hand you're also right on the money on some things. I have one of the last American Ford sedans and love it, a Fusion. There's no existing Ford product that could take its place.
American brands also don’t care about brand recognition. Since the 60’s you could buy a Corolla and can still get one today. Chevy goes from Nova to Cavalier to Cobalt, to Cruze. Then there are the ones in between like the Sonic, Spectrum, Prizm, and those are just the compact cars. The same can be said for the Subcompact, midsize, and full size. An Accord is still an Accord, a Civic is a Civic, a Camry is a Camry, an Elantra is an Elantra, a Sonata is still a Sonata. There is a huge value in long term name recognition. Your great uncle may have had a Corolla, your mom’s first car may have been an Elantra, and you can still buy one of them for yourself, especially if they have fond memories of those cars.
Then how did the bull known as the Ford Taurus 🐂 survive over 35 years while the other domestic brands were constantly changed names trying to push for the next big thing?
Sure, it suffered a long and drawn out sales slip after the mistakes Ford made between 1996 and 1999. But it was the Subaru Outback of the domestic sedans and wagons before Subaru's Outback wagon and Toyota's Camry sedan capitalized on Ford's mistake.
RIP to the Taurus, the Taurus SHO, and the related Mercury Sable and Lincoln MKS badged versions, late 1985-2019. Hopefully Ford revives The Bull 🐂 as an EV soon. Replacing The Bull 🐂 with the Mustang Mach E crossover was this generation's mistake. It should've been a TAURUS instead of a Mustang In Name Only.
It became discontinued twice mostly for no investment from Ford.@@truckerzachbell
American sedans are dying. Yet Japanese brands sedans are still doing fine. And now all categories of American brand vehicles are struggling since people are accepting their lack of quality control.
Lower quality could be accepted if prices were lower to match, but they're not. And the cheap cars they have now aren't as robust as the ones of old. Compare an old Chevy Cavalier to a modern Chevy Trax. Both are cheap, but the former is more reliable and cheaper
@@SkylineFTW97 So much so that even European cars are eating the luxury lunch against their American counterparts.
American car companies have never asked what consumer want, they tell them what they can buy. Euro and Asian car companies tend to listen more. Plus US designed car don't actually fit outside of US ultrawide streets and higways. The current crop of trash like the Ranger and Ram are approaching the max dimensions of Oz road rules and can't be parked in older inner city carparks here...
Mind you, American car company =/= American designed; the only thing keeping GM cars at least decent was their borrowing from Opel, Daewoo, and Holden (though the cars from AU never really sold well here - likely on purpose by GM).
I have 3 sisters and we fit all our shit and our bodies just fine in our Honda civic/ our mercury cougar, our Nissan Sentra, our Kia forte, our Oldsmobile cutlass, our Saturn sc2, and we all 6feet tall so I literally don’t comprehend the single parents with one kid thinking they need one of those to go grocery shopping. They literally just fell for marketing, because not even in USA do people here need or use them, that’s only about 25% of buyers here ever actually need it, and an even smaller number that need it daily.
I went from my 08’ Ford Fusion to a 2023 Nissan Sentra S. I’ll continue to drive sedans until I actually need an SUV.
Keep the dream alive!
@@BrkDownMedia yeah buddy!
My all time favorite American car is not the Mustang, or the F-150, or any Tesla, it is Crown Vic, the iconic Ford Panther sedan that was built tough, practical, and dead-reliable. Cabbies drove them, cops abused them, Cleetus races them, and they just keep going and going and going, I just hope Ford can build something with the same level of reliability and practicality that is not a SUV or truck
Cops still use them where they can.
Sedans are gone for the most part is because they figured out how to cheat EPA guidelines with trucks and bigger profit margins for SUV, CUV and PU.The US brands made them crappy on purpose as well IMHO. The last few sedans were decent (Fusion, Malibu, the 200 was junk)I traded my 3G TL Type S and got the RDX. This is my first new CUV but it drives like sedan and I think they are more versatile than sedans. Lastly I like wagons as well but they have the same stigma as minivans.
Yep! I think I'm gonna do a video explaining that as well. I had a 3G Type S as well. (Absolute nightmare to own at 12 years old with only 123k miles)
All very true.
Wagons are the bomb, if I ever make enough money I'll definitely find myself in a Volvo wagon.
@@BrkDownMedia I didn’t have any issues with my TL-S sold it with over 265K on the odometer
@@BrooklynBound4 Yeah mine was 12 years when I bought it so most of the parts had never been changed before considering it barely had 100k miles
American sedans will return if the economy gets better. A lot of people can only afford one car, and if you can only have one, then you're going to pick something that maximizes practicality above all else, which usually means an SUV or corssover.
The US domestic sedan began to fail in the late 70's, 80's, 90's and 00's. The Japanese made smart decisions on size, efficiency, production, and of course price. Our domestic sedans quality was a joke, especially interior materials, layout and ergonomics. Our American sedans should've evolved to be rwd, stylish, and efficient. We love our rwd sedans in the US. Look at the 2005 Chrysler 300, Charger, Teslas model S and 3. Big, stylish rwd sedans
Great show. Being a 70 year old man, I remember most of these cars. I think the worse years for america cars were the 70's and 80's. My first car was a 64 ford fairlane, and my car now is a 2020 ram hemi. I like the hemi the best. Just sayin. I subscribed.
Thanks for the sub! I hear no car ever amounts to the first. I had a 5.0L T-bird and out of all the cars I've had that still remains one of my top faves.
Very cool video, man, thank you a lot for bringing this european dude into context ♥
There are still two sedans that are selling well: the Tesla 3 and Y. Maybe not so much because they're sedans but more because they're electric. Also maybe the Corolla and Civic due to their excellent reputation.
Good video!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the content!
I’ve been an American sedan lover for as long as I could drive. I’ve driven all other kinds, SUV, pickup, coupe, etc. I always come back to a sedan.
Too bad they don’t make affordable, American sedans anymore
Sedans just drive better. If Ford decides to make them again, we may see a comback.
Very good video and great quality
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed the content!
Come to think of it, I've NEVER bought a sedan. But I've NEVER bought an SUV/CUV, either.
I bought 2 coupes and 4 hatchbacks so far in my life.
Well, I think there's an argument to be made that the new Buick Envista is a kind of a higher drive position, fast-back sedan.
GM calls it a cross-over - but it's really more like a different kind of American sedan for the future, than a cross-over or SUV.
Awesome video! Kinda sad to see sedans getting the short end of the stick right now, but they will definitely not disappear completely. Especially if we're talking about higher-class vehicles, I bet seeing the current I7 as a hatchback will be pure nightmare fuel! 😂
Though I can see how they're trying to minimize their presence, since even the EQS, electrified a-la S-class is a liftback, and not a sedan. But again, their complete extinction is very unlikely!
Thanks! Yeah, Idk what Mercedes was thinking with the EQS 😅 It really was like they were trying to make fetch happen, and it didn't lol 😆
Great video thank you sir for the knowledge
Of course!
Before car companies, ESPECIALLY AMERICAN CAR COMPANIES, start discontinuing cars, they need to first ask themselves, is this worth losing a customer base they may or may not come back when we finally decide our existing cars are too much to afford and waste too much gas and we want to build small cars again. Then they need to ask their customer base, what do YOU want to see in your next whatever sedan they own. Because I own a Malibu. While I love Whitney (My car) and I’ve had it since highschool, I could’ve told GM a million things wrong with my car, the Malibu that came after my car and why I chose this generation Malibu (2013-2016) over the latest (and last) generation, I could’ve told them why I won’t be considering a Malibu for my next car and why I’ll most likely be leaving the GM brand as a whole unless I need a suv or truck.
Hey Buddy. Love your videos and what not, but two things, having to do with the same person. First, its Lee last name pronounced like "ai-uh-kow-kuh" and yes we do know how he came to head up Chrysler. Henry Ford II str8 up fired him and so he needs a new job and Bam! To Chrysler he went. Thats all though, your doing a great job, so keep it up!
You weren’t supposed to say it out 😆 I definitely learned it’s an “I” not an “L”
Can you make a video about the return of pontiac american sedans need a comeback😊.
Lol I'll put it in the queue
I'm a sedan and coupe guy myself. I never like SUV's and most people don't know how to drive them *cough ...woman *cough, but seriously though it really should require a drivers license endorsement like a CDL does, as most of them aren't aware their a bigger vehicle + can flip over easier. People who drive them solely rely on the back up camera and don't know how to use their mirrors in tandem.
🙈 I can't say too much cause I don't know how to drive w/o my backup cam
My neighbor had a last Gen Malibu, a Dart, and a 200. He had so many issues with every single one. Saw them broke down on the side of the road a few times.
Heck he even had a rental Camry and I saw it broke down once. So maybe ignorance plays a factor. But the issues he had made it obvious not to buy American anything. He has a Mazda3 now. Seems to work okay.
Was in a Fiesta once and I thought it was one of the worse things evern the interior was just falling apart with basically no use. Its materials and build quality were so low just existence made it rot away.
I drove a last gen Chevy Cruz and it was so bad. The interior wasnt 10 years old but the plastics were falling apart. The shifter was the most flimsy cheapest thing I ever touched. The car was so low it couldn't get into the drive way. A problem many sedans suffer. Automakers are so desperate to make them look sporty they become very impractical pushing people to more reasonably shaped CUVs. If you see old sedans from the 40s or before they are higher up and about as tall as many CUVs. Just more practical. It seems consumers wish to return to such proportions. The Cruz wasnt very comfortable and had very little glass and felt like a dungeon to me. Even larger sedans in my experience arent at all comfortable.
I think American brands also literally make no or very small profits with sedans and cars. If you look into reports, wording, and interviews many of them talk about how unprofitable or small the profits were on cars. I guess they just have decades of baggage with unions and suppliers and inefficiency. They barely make any American made cars anynore and still struggle with costs.
Even their trucks have very low build quality and interiors fall apart. But truck buyers stubbornly dont care. When I asked a guy why his top of the line F-150 had shaky door panals and flimsy materials he said oh its a ford I knew that before getting it.
No lies told. I did some homework on Saturn a few ago, and that was the consensus: They lost money on every single Saturn sold.
New to your channel and long time history buff especially classic cars of America and Europe. Sadly the new Ford Taurus is nice to look at and a great price, the Lincoln Zephyr is a sharp four door with up to date interior and a low price. As we know they are selling well but not in North America we just get SUV's, Crossovers, and other square boxes by popular demand. I do not think EVs are 100% the answer. Sure if they fall out of the sky built and charged for life and magically disappear after ten years of use then sure they are zero emissions. Don't forget the Lincoln Continental we had just a few years ago. But wait Ford designed that for China where it still is and we had it for just a few years. I do not have nor want a $100,000 F-150 or Navigator L. I pray the Big three, I mean two listen to what consumers want and the price can approach what we are charging in China and the Middle East. Thanks for letting me rant.
They honestly sold out! Lol Globalization truly ruined American Car Manufacturing. But without it, we don't get Toyotas and Hondas we've grown to love.
LIttle bummed you referred to the release of the Mustang (at 15:19) and showed a Mustang II. There are so many better Mustangs to show vs. the '74 to '78 models.
Great video (so far - still have seven minutes to watch) otherwise.
Twas intentional to show how American cars were on the decline. The original or the Fox Body wouldn’t have said the same thing honestly.
Sedans returning as EVs would be impractical. Majority of EVs have their batteries in the underbelly of the car making a crossover or SUV the more practical in design. An EV that is a sedan would probably look like a Subaru Outback SUS (late 90s to early 2000s).
Don't disagree, but EV sedans are in the realm of possibilities!
Just dig out footwells for the passengers and drivers and place some batteries under the rear seats.
uh other than a Hiatus from 2013-2018 the Ford Ranger has existed since 1983 like the Toyota Camry has sedans are generally smaller than they were 50 years ago originally the Corolla was a subcompact and eventually became a compact car in the early 90s accept for the hatchback there are some areas in the us that have narrow cobblestone streets like South end Boston for example its mainly the popularity of Sport Utility Vehicles that have slowly killed the sedan other than the few that remain such as the Corolla Civic Camry Accord etc. granted if you went by release the Corolla has been sold in the US since 1968 as a 1969 model and originally started as a subcompact car in 1969 only becoming a compact in 1991 the Camry and Accord originally started as Compact cars moving up to mid size in 1990s and Camry has been the best selling car in the class in the US for 27 of the last 28 model years while the top selling vehicle over all for the last 43 model years since 1982 has been the Ford F Series pickup truck which is also in its 48th year as the best selling truck over all
Have a Lincoln MKS, twin turbo AWD, big, comfy, fast. 0-60 in 5.2 sec. 23 mpg good enough
I've always been curious about the MKS. My favorite was the 2010-2012 MKZ.
@@BrkDownMedia it’s a little bigger all around, big trunk, better leg room, the big 3.5 ecoboost, paddle shifters, parallel parks itself, THX stereo with factory dvd, Bluetooth, stock 20” wheels, adaptive cruise, and I bought it for $6900… buying the wifey a 2016-2018 MKX next…
@@WesternReloader Sweet deal!
Is that the one that looks like a Ford Taurus in a Tuxedo?
@@Kd_rise It is, apparently resale value makes it a decent grab.
Just to say as I could see it was once seen a lot of Cadillacs and Lincolns now it is all Mercedes Benz, BMW, and Audi besides European car makers are taking the cake in American sales.
The way that even Boeing an airplane maker is becoming Extinct, sure European and Asian car manufactures are making sedans left and right to say no Town Cars, nor Fleetwoods only S-Class and 7 Series large sedans, that even the Germans are eating America’s lunch and Volkswagen is just the tip of the iceberg.
Well to say that even European cars are making cars in the USA also that Mercedes Benz are made in Alabama, and BMW in South Carolina as well as the Korean car brands; then Chinese car brands in electric cars enter the US will bankrupt the big 3 and Tesla or to say the Big 4 because Tesla is included.
Chinese EVs are equivalent to Japan and for a reason why the US government put sanctions on China but on the plus side a Chinese made American branded car came out to be better quality than their American made counterparts.
As to say the only hope for the American sedan to be bought is that Chrysler to say now that Stellantis is pulling out crap left and right is that they are selling Chrysler; that was once merged with Daimler and Mercedes Benz once took the American concept and ruin their reputation, to say why sedans are not dead in Germany but after all Germany is doing better than Detroit for a reason why people prefer to buy a German car brand over a Cadillac but to say why Mercedes Benz split from Chrysler.
Now Chrysler should have been bought by Toyota long ago even though the first Corolla made in America was sold as a Chevrolet Nova and a Geo Prizm and Chevrolet Prizm sure Toyota made the Pontiac Vibe; now that the Toyota factory that made the first Toyotas in the USA is now a Tesla factory in Fremont, California.
Just to say that the only way to do is that Chrysler becomes the leader as to be acquired by Toyota and then certain Toyota models including the ones sold in Japan to be sold under the Dodge, Chrysler and Jeep names even the Tundra pickup truck will be based on a Ram.
That way Ford and GM should follow Toyota and that way Chrysler being owned by Toyota could end up with police departments only buying Dodge police cars, to be a monopoly of police cars to be more like Microsoft on PCs.
That way Chrysler being bought by Toyota it will turn the Dodge brand into the monopoly of police cars and the secret service and the government ending up using Chrysler vehicles that even the presidential car end up to be a Chrysler if Toyota where to buy Chrysler that even Jeep could be included that Chrysler could be the monopoly of the vehicles for the US government.
The Cadillac Northstar engine was so unreliable and poorly built that it nearly killed the entire brand
Yep, the art and science rollout was a crazy time for them.
If they still made pontiacs i would buy one but they dont so rip
Pontiac is pretty necessary in today's world.
@@BrkDownMedia exactly
Cost cutting engineering and drunk UAW employees. 😂
I don't know, but you exagerate a number of things and talk off the cuff on some things.
On the other hand you're also right on the money on some things. I have one of the last American Ford sedans and love it, a Fusion. There's no existing Ford product that could take its place.
A mix of opinions from fact if that makes sense.