Riding mower only runs when carb is choked
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Thanks for watching. This mower would run but only when choked. The fix was pretty easy but the question is aftermarket Carb vs. OEM Carb.
This video is meant as entertainment, always practice safety.
Just wanted to thank you for sharing your knowledge and insites to to small engine repair.
Between you and Mustie1, you've help me keep my yard tools in great working order, and help me solve some irritating problems!
thank you Michael Fougerousse!
Same problem on my lt133 my hood shattered years ago and jd should give you a tarp with these! Ordered this carb and arrived today.I’ll put it on this evening and hopefully be back at it. I appreciate your channel and always look for a new video on here. It’s you and mustie that keep me going Thanks for what you do
I appreciate that Mark Person and thank you.
Mine busted.
Tarp with these.
That's hilarious.
If everyone would make fun of their plastic hoods maybe they'll fix the problem.
Autopsy of the old carb would be informative.
yes that's a good idea
A quick carb swap and she's good to go.. and on to the next.. good one mate
Thank you Mick.
Hey Mick
@@smallengines1018 yo yo
new carb same result
Awesome! Just what I was looking for. All the symptoms are the same as mines. I suspected it was the carburetor but I wasn’t sure. Again thank you.
no problem
Yup that same problem our mower is now having
Now I know what to look for thank you
no problem
If a carb is too far gone to rebuild or simply won’t work properly after trying everything I have no problem using a generic replacement. I’ve had very good results with cheap no-name carbs with no further issues afterwards.
the same situation here. I've had a lot of success using aftermarket ones. Thank you mjg263
JD S130. Same symptoms tricky throttle/choke adjustments to run. My issue was the "governor blade" or its equal was not working, it was floating, no tension on the vertical wire or arm that connects to carb. At the time I was clueless and frustrated. While had my air handy, I blew out the hard to get/see area on top of the carburetor. Magic, noticed the wire now had a little tension. Engine ran fine. Before had the same symptoms as your oldie but goodie. No skill or knowledge, just dumb luck so I thought I would share. The video inspired me to trouble shoot. THX.
nice work!
My qualcast classic 35s is doing the exact same thing. Just ordered a new generic carb. I did try and clean out the old one, but no joy.
Thank you for the vid.
no problem and you made a good choice
I've just fitted the new carb. After a bit of tweeking, it's rectified the issue!! So. Again, thank you very much.
You don't know how relieved I am!!
John Deere,, good machines.. yes I think that you did the right thing by puting a new carby on and when you get time recondition the old one. Good video HG⁷
Thanks Steven Chandler. If I get a chance I'll go through that old carb and see what the problem was
I was getting ready to order a new carb. Then I decided to watch some more videos . I had a clogged jet 1st problem solved. Then the carb messed up again so I watched more videos. Behind the fuel pick up tube was some debree. Problem #2 solved. All better now and I didn't need to order a new carb.
Great to hear thank you Mark Silkey.
Great video, I have a John Deere 102 5 speed 100 series, years old but Nothing Runs Like a Deere!
you got that right, but any rider is better than pushing, thank you dominic r gamez
I've had to clean a Honda carburetor which was tricky to fix,the orifice leading to the low speed jet was blocked so it would only run at full speed.
An ultrasonic parts cleaner would've really helped me clean it !
that maybe on it's way then. Thank you Russell Booth
I bought a mophorn 30 liter ultrasonic cleaner. Its terribly fun to put all sorts of things in there with a little soap and water and watch it come back out 30 minutes later looking brand spanking new.
I have a Scott's riding tractor and it's basically doing the same thing yours was it will only stay running if it's in like half choke if I turn the choke off it dies. so by watching your video. I'm assuming I got a bad carburetor or something is clogged in the carburetor so I'm going to have to buy me a carburetor I guess.
Thanks for the video
you are correct, the carb had an issue that was not able to fix, so a new carb fixed it.
Been a while since you had a riding mower on the channel
yes it has, that's really because I don't work on them, only my own.
As usual, a good video of a good repair project. You don't give much info about preliminary diagnostics to know for sure there was not a vacuum leak causing the poor performance with the original carb?
you are correct, I barely touched on the diagnostic of the failing carb. But I was confident that it was the problem and the video was to mainly show how to replace the carb. Thank you 65CSX
Some carburetors just won't run right, even after cleaning. I have good results with 90% plus of the carbs I clean, and have good results with cheap Chinese carbs.
You absolutely right. Thank you Mike Spain.
I agree I've had some mowers I have to clean the carb about every time I use it
If I had already cleaned the original carb and it still didn’t work, I would replace it but with an OEM carb. The reason I would do that is because I work on small engines full time and have had a very hard time with the Chinese knock off carbs. Even if they run fine at first, I guarantee there will be another problem down the road.
You make a very good point.
I got a good Chinese carb on my snow blower. 4 seasons in so far. Northern Pennsylvania. you could say I like a good gamble. most Chinese carbs do suck
The generic for mine was $20 on ebay and OEM was $245. It's been fine for 3 years. If it died tomorrow and I got an average of 3 years per, it'd be 36 years to equal the oem price
First like first comment. Thanks for the video just what I needed because I picked up my first riding mower.
nice what brand and model?
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE craftsmen.
It's a piece of junk on the outside but I think I can get it going because it only needs a carb and a new seat.
@@Gamer55MMC they all have their merits. Good luck
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE thanks man
@@Gamer55MMC no problem
The new aftermarket carburetor was so cheap. I chose to get it instead of dismantling and clearing those clogged paths on the old carburetor. I had a lot of luck, switching out a starter and solenoid previously. I'm just about to install my new carburetor and hope for the best. If that doesn't work I should do what I probably should've already done and check the fuel cap. The problem is I don't know how to tell if it's functional or not. Can you help me with that? Oh and I wanted to say thanks for the tip about doubling up the nuts on the one post for the carburetor so I could undo the linkages easily. I was baffled at first, but after watching it three times I understood.
to check if the cap is venting, disconnect the fuel line at the filter near the right foot pedal. Fuel should drain from the line when you move the end of the hose below the frame due to gravity and pressure differential. Capture the fuel in a container and watch to see if the fuel flow stays "continuous" or if the flow starts to slow down. This would show that the cap is not venting air into the tank. IF it does this, then open the fuel cap and if the flow starts back up, then you'll know the cap needs to be replaced or if you need to put a small hole in it
Thank you
no problem
You can remove the carb without removing the studs. The linkage will give just enough to slide the carburetor off
thank you for the information
On that old carb did you remove the main jet and see if it was clogged , although sometimes you cannot remove it very easily
Or maybe just take a thin wire and run it up through the main jet to clear a partial clog..
yes it was something I had looked last year when it started having problems. It was actually during my "mow or blow" video on leaves.
I think the Chinese aftermarket carbs work better, because they don't have to meet any epa regs so they can have proper jet sizes instead of always being lean.
I've replaced carbs on riding mowers, push mowers, generators, and chainsaws, never had a dud.
The Tecumseh carbs even has adjustment screws exposed where the OEM was blocked off.
I like the way you see it.
My 46” MTD’s (18.5hp brig&strat twin 2!) been sitting up over 7-10 years! I jus got it to crank today!!!
Had to choke to keep it running!
I’m gonna clean the carburetor jets etc & try again! If doesn’t work I’ll prob need a new carburetor too! Thanks for the video!
no problem and good luck.
With the way carburetors are now it seems to me to save time and money just to replace them. I don't know how many I have tried to rebuild and could have saved time and money just to replace it.
Yes I feel the same way.
I've never had much luck rebuilding carbs either. I was looking at other comments and someone else was saying the the fuel line can collapse and give the same symptoms. Especially if it's an old fuel line. Just a thought.
Replace with cheaper option, even the kits can be only a few bucks cheaper, but easier to buy overseas option but wait times are required.
thank you Rick Thelian
my l100 has guzzled alot of gas and its been running kinda bad and just today it would barley even stay alive and only run choked so i think either by fixing the fuel lines and replacing the fuel filter might fix it sense ive cleaned the carb a year or two ago
I would replace the carb instead, I did and it fixed my issues like you're having
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE i replaced the fuel filter since it looked completly brown inside and it cranked up just fine but if it does it again ill tell you
okay
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE and here we are again it did the exact same thing again
Does the original carb have a pilot jet? It’s possible that an ultrasonic cleaner may solve your problem. Even if the knock off carb only lasted a year or two, how many could you buy before you matched the cost of the OE? If you don’t have an answer ultrasonic cleaner, you definitely chose the right route. Could the needle and seat be your problem?
not sure.
personally i,d have a look at the forums and diaphragms and all and if it,s not gonna fix the problems after doing it all correctly well it,s probably better then to replace it for sure.
Very true.
My lawnmower was running fine until it ran out of fuel two days ago. It had to run with the choke after I put fuel in it and now it won’t stay on. It cranks, turns on and dies after 10 seconds. Fuel line to filter is fine. After filter is slower but I’m assuming that’s normal due to the filter resistance. I have a John deer l130. I don’t think the carb would get clogged just because of running out of fuel but please let me know your thoughts. Thanks.
running out of fuel, will sometime pull the worst stuff, from the tank, to clog the filter. I would replace the filter, it's not expensive.
Rebuild or replace ?
Depends whether its a Walbro brand or a Mikuni brand , with plastic guts ...
You said it all
I have had a lot of success cleaning carburetors using carbcleaner and a sonic cleaner with built-in heater (before I had the sonic cleaner with its own heater I heated up the liquid before I turned on the sonic cleaner)
I would get one, I just don't want to use it on the channel, I don't want to show that you need to buy this to clean a carb. Most people will never clean a carb in their life, so for those few people that might do it once or twice, it way not be worth it.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Good point as it is to be educational for a broader audience.
A coworker decided to play with the carb mixture screw and now it's doing the same thing as you JD. Did you try adjusting the carb mixture first?
yes but it didn't make enough of a difference, besides that, the screw was not adjusted to begin with.
I would have tried to fix it again, probably because I am too cheap to spend the money on a new, even if it is a cheap aftermarket. You seam pretty knowledgeable so betting you would have fixed it the 2nd time around. Did you ever figure this out?
how many times are you going to try and fix it until you decide to get a new one?
I personally love using the aftermarket carbs but I am a flipper.
that makes complete sense
I replaced the carb but mine would still not start. Had visible gas droplets coming from the carb. Complained and got my money back. Bought another from a different supplier and I am still having problems starting and running. I had backfires out of the carb so I removed the flywheel to see if the key in the crank was still good and it was. New stock fuel pump and fuel lines. Gov seems okay. No adjustment on carb except idle. Going crazy!
i think you should look for a used hood and a back tire and a overall cleanup its worth it now that it runs fine or mabye even make a "restoration" video
The hood is going to be tough, as for the tire and wheel, I'm not looking forward to trying to make it off.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE i really appreciate how you care about your viewers and reply to every comment👍
That means a lot to me stv pls.
Looks like a JD model LT133 mower with mulch deck
You are absolutely correct.
Any ideas on this. I’m up for trying anything at this point. I have a JD x390 with a Kawasaki fs651v it’ll only run for a few seconds to maybe a few minutes but only with the choke on. I’ve put a new carb on it, new fuel pump, all filters are new, fresh oil change. I also drained the tank and put fresh gas in. I blew out all the fuel lines and did a valve job. Yet here I am with it still stalling in seconds. I feel like this issue all started when I hit a wet spot mowing but I could be full of shit there. Any help is definitely appreciated.
sure, I wonder if the "circuit" for the fuel shut off solenoid is working. Since you replaced the carb, It should have come with a new one at the bottom of the bowl. That's why I'm guessing it has to be the wires or the key switch. Also do you think one of the safeties is tripping and causing the engine to shut off?
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I had voltage there but decided to open it up and cut the plunger off. It’s running now.
Hello!
I bought a brand new weed eater, thing is, when its revved to the max for longer periods of time, gas starts dripping from somewhere, i pulled out the air filter and it had gas in it, so i guess its coming out of the air intake, also the spark plug was drenched in gas, could it be that the carb is sending too much gas and i need to adjust the H screw ?
what brand and model did you buy?
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE i think its a chinese kind of weed eater, Stern Austria GGT-1600V
@@iplaybose it's worth a shot trying to adjust it. Just do me favor. First turn the screw clockwise counting how many turns it takes to stop. That way you can put it back the way you found it, if things don't go to plan
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE understood! Thanks for the tip! Will do sir, wish u a great day
@@iplaybose no problem
Maybe that is wrong with a snow blower I have, it only runs on choke and the second you take it off it acts like you switched the key off.
yes I would just replace the carb because it seems to be the same problem.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I have not touched the carburetor yet, it is a pain to get to as it is hidden behind a bunch of plastic since it is a snow blower. You recommend trying to clean it out first? I see you have had a good success rate with that.
@@cdos9186 that's a tough question. if you don't mind doing more work, then yes try cleaning it. but if the bowl gasket is hard or cracked, I would just by the carb instead.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I went through the carburetor and there was a bunch of junk at the bottom of the bowl, I cleaned it out and the main jet, put it back together, and it runs like new! Thanks!
@@cdos9186 nice work!
Carb swap!!!
me too
My brand new carb does this, any thoughts or help
did you install it or someone else? It's a manual choke like the one in the video then? did you make sure that it's was the right carb for your size engine?
I would of replaced it to save time. Nothing runs like a Deere!
I absolutely agree with you
I all ways run my equipment out of gas when I store them away for the winter until the next spring season
very nice!
The fuel lines and fuel pump should probably be replaced at that age. Try to run Non-ethanol gas too. Putting ethanol in gas was a stupid idea, pollutes more, get worse gas mileage and deteriorates rubber hoses over time. Bad for cars and small engines.
I got the same issue but I just bought a brand new carb and it’s still doing the same thing. I replaced the whole fuel system, coil, condenser, starter, and plug wire. I need help I’m out of ideas for my mower. It just won’t run without choke if you have any ideas I’ll appreciate it.
I don't know what your engine looks looks. Does your engine have a fuel pump, either mechanical or the diaphragm type?
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE mechanical fuel pump. I replaced it also
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE it’s a John Deere 314
at this I'm out of ideas without looking at it in person.
What is the carb part number. I have the exact same mower
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Where ( what website ) did you order that replacement carburetor ?
from amazon, there should be a link to it in the description of the video.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE
I hear content creators like you say that all the time ; I’m old - since I’m using my phone , do I need to go look at your video again on like a laptop to get that link ?
I just pulled carb because fuel was spewing from top hole! any Idea what the issue is? thanks
sure, the needle is not able to close into the seat inside the carb. Take it from me, just replace the carb.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I did! found the one I needed on Amazon & your right ! the issue is related to a cracked float. Prime was 1 day for a carb but over a week for a kit also was more $ than a whole carb ! lol
I have a Briggs and stratton Vanguard. 185432 0271e1.
Same problem. Fresh gas, fuel flows freely. Found nothing in original carb.
Replace with import, same problem? The fuel inlet on the new one is smaller. 1/4" od.
Any ideas?
If you're certain about the fuel flow and the carb is new, then the problem may not be fuel related
battery cable disconnected?
the battery has been dead for a long time and eventually I just removed it and use my jump pack.
Opps my bad fuel is ok didnt see fuel line runs on the other side
If you couldn't fix the carburator, and had to replace it, I would replace it to cuz there's no way in the world is ever find the problem
as much as Like finding out the cause for a problem, sometimes I would rather just get rid of the problem and get whatever it is, working again. No headaches.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Exactly
from my point of veiw the china parts have been very reliable ,the only one i wont use now are the fuel pipe they go soft and break after a few weeks, but here un the uk if i did not use the non genuine carbs all quotes would be declined so i tell them what could happenand 90 % are happy to go ahead
that makes sense, thank you Thomas Caulfield.
Not certain of your job but there's more money to be made on riding mowers than trimmers. Good luck.
so very true
Is the carb still working on it?
You mean the original one? Yes it works
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I meant the one you replaced. I have the same problem with a Craftman LT2000. I cleaned the carburetor but it still only runs on choke.
@@CazadoresLatinosDePA oh yes absolutely, I've used the mower several times since this video and it works like new.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE thanks for the video and replies. ✌🏼
@@CazadoresLatinosDePA no problem
Replaced the carb and still only runs on choke
if the carb you replaced was new, and the issue is fuel related then either there's an issue with the fuel pump, clogged filter, swollen Fuel line, or some obstructions in the tank.
Take off original carb, clean throughly and blow out fuel line back into tank to remove anything restricting free flow - done - runs like a champ - new carb - nope but solution of it is truly dead - stihl chainsaws have that problem after a few years and lost of mesquite corrosion!
thank you Andy Hancock.
This Is Mower not a space shuttle
Use the old one for Parts
thank you George Martinez
Hi
hello Super Mario Logan 2.0
most times its fuel related
you are correct
go the clone it's worth the risk ...
I agree
nice land
thanks, but it's not mine, just close by
Why isn't the caption of this video ( just buy a new carb) FIX.
because it wouldn't describe the problem someone might be having
Take the solenoid out and cut the plunger off.
I've done that before
Fixit don’t spend the money
a very wise decision
I'm sure we all can replace a carburetor we're not trying to replace it we're trying to fix it
I've wrenched one or two motorcycles with various carburetor configurations but came HERE to see if there were any tips or hints. To say "we all can change a carburetor" really means "you" can do it. I thought his video was fine for a novice which was his intended audience.
NEVER EVER start an engine at high rpms.......
never ever
Okay so wheres the vido on the stock carb?!
you mean of it running and surging with the original carb on the engine?