I got an MIJ SV470 for 500 recently and a Yamaha RSS20T for 570. They are brilliant guitars. I had wanted to get a Gibson to backup my ES-347, but the used market is insane for well known guitars. On the other hand, if you look for values there is no reason you cannot get a high end guitar for a fair price. No guitar needs to kill another in this market process.
I bought a JS400 about 2 years ago and it was so good I bought another one. The only upgrade I did was to add locking tuners. It was the neck that I liked the most. I had a Harley Benton Fusion and sold it as I didn’t like the neck or pickups. This guitar has been on my next guitar list since I seen it but also want to see the fender player 2 with weight relief body when they arrive in the UK.
Have a JS 400 as well . Put a Dimarzio Super Distortion at the bridge and try to find another one. This guitar became a killer instrument . But as a lefty i consider myself lucky to have the chance to have get one. The neck is amazing . Since, my Fender Stratocaster hang on the wall; the neck is too thin to my taste..
That looks like a proper maple cap not a veneer, if so that is a killer deal with that finish! If i was looking for a HSS super strat i would for sure consider that, beautiful and sounds good stock!
It's a solid maple cap - but it's not a solid flame maple cap. I can't even tell if it's a laminate of flame or a photograph of one. Can't see any movement in the top (it's sat here next to me at the moment)
Looks like a great guitar. At sub-1K, a gigbag like that is pretty nice as long it's not taking finish time or features away. Yeah mahogany can go super light. 2.5-3lb is possible for a fullsize Strat body. My LTD M-403 HT HSS bolt-on ($800 years ago) has that.
Second this. After they went direct and slashed the prices, they became one of the best deals with high-end MIJ quality and excellent design. I have an OZ RV TNC, and it's my best playing guitar.
😅 I would go for an Eart Dx-9 which is cheaper, it has stainless steel frets, roasted Canadian maple, roasted African mahogany, you get what you want for your money
@@MrLoompi Having better distribution and spending millions of dollars on promotion doesn't mean that it offers you the best, eart, soloking and m musi, if they offer you better quality for less money, it's worth looking for it.
@@LaCajaDeSnake How many Jets and earts did you play ? I have two JET and tried an Eart - I much prefer JET, it feels right. Paper specs dont do much for me.
@@MrLoompi Now I see, you are a Jet fanboy, I have an Ibanez rg 570 91' and it is almost identical to my eart e-3s and my eart NK-1980, I tried a jet js450 and it is very inferior in quality and sound, it seems that you need to try And don't marry one, I also have a m musi capricorn and it feels of higher quality than the overrated jet ones, anyway I will never convince a fanboy
@@LaCajaDeSnake If you think 91 Fujigen RG570 with Wizard neck and lo pro edge is identical to some Eart, then we can close the discussion :) I had about 10 MIJ RG and S during time, including J-Custom. They are not remotely close.
Am I missing something here, these guitars retail at €900 have no name electronics and cheap hardware probably made in China or Indonesia which is fine for sub €500 but ibi killer no considering not made in Japan and has the resale value of a used tea bag.....I love the jet stuff but they are getting ahead of themselves
FALSE. The Ibanez was killed as part of an FBI cover up also possibly involving ex pat Cubans, and the mafia. It’s really important you don’t share lies on your channel. You have a voice and an audience. Be better.
Sorry, not gonna drop €900 on a overseas guitar from an unknown brand. No-name pickups, awful logo on the headstock, it doesn't even have SS frets. They are pricing it as though they are an established brand, which they are not. They should stick to the €200 market.
even a used suhr is very different to find for under $2000 or even $3000 for a modern, and as much as i love their guitars its just difficult for many people to spend or justify that much compared to $500-800 or less for a very similar experience once it is set up well
That's a John Suhr rip-off as most superstrats, including Ibanez, for more than 15 years since Guthrie had his signature with them, back when he was ripping off the faces of everyone with his playing... that John Suhr headstock, it's been everywhere since 2010... copied and replicated since... if Suhr had maintained and invested in those early Rasmus guitars, he would have been dominating todays Asian made high end guitars..
I just don't see the point. The best value Ibanez is an Ibanez. The cheap alternative to an Ibanez is an Ibanez. e.g You've got signatures for Guthrie Govan from the USA for £3.5k and Rabea (? ) for £4.4k - but you can get signature guitars from Ibanez, for players that might be getting on a bit now but Vai, Satriani, Gilbert and they're all under £3k (they do a few fancy pants finishes and models higher) - and there's all the AZ series are around the £2k mark, including a couple of signatures - and if you can't stretch to that, there's guitars more or less specced identically, including SS frets, roasted maple around the £1k mark - which also includes a few signature models from some really new and popular artists like Henson - as well as a lot of very talented youtubers. You know I can watch Gardiner or Miller or Quayle playing music and think "Ooh I'd like a guitar like that" and it's £2k ish. Whereas you watch Rick Graham playing exercises and he's never written a piece of music so far as I'm aware and his signature is over £3k. So, the cheap Ibanez is an Ibanez. And Charvel / Music Man do try to compete by selling a pretend signature. They've got pretend signatures from Graham and Govan made in Japan but then you're getting a guitar that Guthrie doesn't actually play, although he probably played it on a few gigs for contractual reasons. And other cheap Charvels all cut down the spec compared with Ibanez, like losing SS frets. And if you don't want to spend that, there's RG series at every price point. And myriad others. The cheap Ibanez is the Ibanez. But the £1k you save you still get a hard case and tool and well built guitar. Perhaps the QC slips down a bit with the Cort built stuff, but that's where retailers like Peach exist to filter out the bad. Which is why even though Cort sell a perfectly good guitar that's made by the same people who make Ibanez has more or less the same spec but is a bit cheaper they still don't sell compared with Ibanez. Why? Because you'll just buy the Ibanez, have the brand - because when you click on youtube for the Cort there's no one playing it that can play. Maybe the odd person does a demo, but most of the people playing them can't play - it's like Rabea and the others at Andertons, they just sit and make noise. Whenever I click on a channel with someone who can play the bulk of their output is played on the guitars they actually like, so you ignore the sponsored videos they make and think "What does this guy play most of the time?" and it's his AZ or whatever - and so why not own that? If you could get a Guthrie Govan signature for £2k that he actually used they probably would have sold as many as Ibanez have Jem - well, perhaps not, but certainly more than Guthrie going with Suhr and Charvel USA. Ibanez is the cheap Ibanez. Govan once bought a Jem right early at his career - it was probably a stretch for someone working at McDonalds and he realised soon after that if he was going to be a name in the guitar world he needed his own guitar not someone else's, but I think that says it all about why making an Ibanez copy makes no sense (a) Ibanez already make Ibanez copies and (b) The top end is as affordable as top end guitars get - and they have a big pull. Like Yamaha - a Yamaha is the cheap Yamaha, except people actually play Ibanez (Yamaha are getting close with Chris Buck and Matteo Mancuso - but you can't actually buy the guitars they play and I suspect they'll lose MM to another brand) The only people really competing with them are Gibson and Fender - and perhaps the bigger online retailers who effectively cut out the brand by going straight to the manufacturers, the brands that Thomann and Andertons sell - but these are generally bought by people who want a better guitar they're beginners who parents aren't sure they'll stick with it etc. And so there's no point for these mid tier guitars really - especially when they're not real brands. It's like Chapman don't make guitars. You could sit on the phone and maybe take a flight out to India or Korea and have your own guitar called 'Cordy' if you wanted. The only thing Chapman had was a buddy who owned a guitar shop. He's not actually making anything. It's barely a step above drop shipping. So why would I ever covet or want to buy one of his guitars? Because the market is just flooded with guitar brands who don't actually make anything - and this is another new brand that has nothing new at all, no reason to buy one. Even if the guitars they produce are great they're just another guitar with the same specs from the same factories. At least when Strandburg did this they came up with a few ideas, a weird neck, an interesting body shape. What does this guitar have that every other one doesn't? nothing. Soon these factories will realise they don't need Chapman or any of the wannabee guitar brands, or the retailers, and they'll start selling direct to us - because these people do nothing in the main (there are a few retailers who give a service, but most of them just ship boxes from the manufacturer) - and if they want to market it they only need to give a few examples to youtubers and they'll all do that - at that point though, Ibanez will still sell loads of guitars because there are guitarists who play to a really high standard playing them, and they are affordable. This Jet guitar will never have that. You might play one today but you won't keep playing it, and no one will sit like Vai, Gardiner or Quayle who you can see genuinely love their instrument with these brands. Govan loves his, but it's too expensive. Rabea's is too expensive and he can't play it. PRS have a fair number playing, but they mostly sell guitar furniture to people who hang them on the wall and look at them, like the Fender custom shop and Gibson - well no one is going to buy a Jet for £10k+ to sit and look at it - look at Chapman's laughable attempts to make expensive Chapmans - because he hasn't got a single skilled guitarist to ever play one.
I got an MIJ SV470 for 500 recently and a Yamaha RSS20T for 570. They are brilliant guitars. I had wanted to get a Gibson to backup my ES-347, but the used market is insane for well known guitars.
On the other hand, if you look for values there is no reason you cannot get a high end guitar for a fair price. No guitar needs to kill another in this market process.
Pretty impressive tone from those pickups.
I bought a JS400 about 2 years ago and it was so good I bought another one. The only upgrade I did was to add locking tuners. It was the neck that I liked the most. I had a Harley Benton Fusion and sold it as I didn’t like the neck or pickups.
This guitar has been on my next guitar list since I seen it but also want to see the fender player 2 with weight relief body when they arrive in the UK.
Have a JS 400 as well . Put a Dimarzio Super Distortion at the bridge and try to find another one. This guitar became a killer instrument . But as a lefty i consider myself lucky to have the chance to have get one. The neck is amazing . Since, my Fender Stratocaster hang on the wall; the neck is too thin to my taste..
Beautiful and as usual great playing
Me likes this - looks clean and well sorted🙂
Wow that guitar looks amazing
Just shows how great the Harley Benton Fusion Pro is...for half the price.
Sono amante del rock,ma amico hai un fraseggio meraviglioso
Mam js600 i jest lepszy od mojego fendera stratocaster player . Jet to bardzo dobre instrumenty jakość - cena. Jet js45 Elite jest wspaniały.
That looks like a proper maple cap not a veneer, if so that is a killer deal with that finish! If i was looking for a HSS super strat i would for sure consider that, beautiful and sounds good stock!
I doubt it is a maple cap, it is probably doing the harley benton trick.
It is a solid maple cap.
@@kebotrans SWEET!
It's a solid maple cap - but it's not a solid flame maple cap. I can't even tell if it's a laminate of flame or a photograph of one. Can't see any movement in the top (it's sat here next to me at the moment)
This is what starters make happy, when i started play guitar, you payd 500 dollars for a christmas tree with strings! So do try! 🤔
That’s an awfully bold statement to say that that thing is an Ibanez killer. The vintage RGs with the wizard neck are the best super strats ever made.
That thing is gorgeous
i really loved my ibanex az, except for the neck, it was just too chubby (for me), might have to give these another look
Looks like a great guitar. At sub-1K, a gigbag like that is pretty nice as long it's not taking finish time or features away.
Yeah mahogany can go super light. 2.5-3lb is possible for a fullsize Strat body. My LTD M-403 HT HSS bolt-on ($800 years ago) has that.
Too expensive for this guitar. Unknown pickups, etc. ...
I can't wait for Jet to get into headless guitars. They probably will at some point.
Sounds like a good time to get a wiring harness from Gunstreet Wiring :)
Missing the Edge double locking trem.
You should check out the wonderful Vola guitars !!
Second this. After they went direct and slashed the prices, they became one of the best deals with high-end MIJ quality and excellent design. I have an OZ RV TNC, and it's my best playing guitar.
@@LunatiqueRob me too just love it
😅 I would go for an Eart Dx-9 which is cheaper, it has stainless steel frets, roasted Canadian maple, roasted African mahogany, you get what you want for your money
JET is a brand which you can find in many good real shops in EU/UK, which is rare for a newer brand, in a flood of Amazon/China brands.
@@MrLoompi Having better distribution and spending millions of dollars on promotion doesn't mean that it offers you the best, eart, soloking and m musi, if they offer you better quality for less money, it's worth looking for it.
@@LaCajaDeSnake How many Jets and earts did you play ? I have two JET and tried an Eart - I much prefer JET, it feels right. Paper specs dont do much for me.
@@MrLoompi Now I see, you are a Jet fanboy, I have an Ibanez rg 570 91' and it is almost identical to my eart e-3s and my eart NK-1980, I tried a jet js450 and it is very inferior in quality and sound, it seems that you need to try And don't marry one, I also have a m musi capricorn and it feels of higher quality than the overrated jet ones, anyway I will never convince a fanboy
@@LaCajaDeSnake If you think 91 Fujigen RG570 with Wizard neck and lo pro edge is identical to some Eart, then we can close the discussion :) I had about 10 MIJ RG and S during time, including J-Custom. They are not remotely close.
Am I missing something here, these guitars retail at €900 have no name electronics and cheap hardware probably made in China or Indonesia which is fine for sub €500 but ibi killer no considering not made in Japan and has the resale value of a used tea bag.....I love the jet stuff but they are getting ahead of themselves
i would have prefer if the painted the headstock in black
Chapman need to learn where the switch is supposed to go from these guys. Man thats annoyed me too much for years 😂
All very subjective and down to budget :)
looks nice but seeing the specs it just looks like a double priced harley benton fusion :) ill stick to the latter
Suhr looks similar in "spec" to HB, but its very different :) Spec is paper, feel is something else.
I wanna like Harley Benton but I don’t like their headstocks.
@@MrLoompi but these are not suhr are they... i dont know, ill stick to sticking to the latter.
Dude needs a lapel mic sponsor.
Just buy a Soloking for £300
Stainless steel frets?
Sadly they don't do ss frets and won't anytime soon (I asked them directly).
Came here looking for what the #1 Dumble fanboy had to say on UAFX Dumble Day....
Nah, it ain't. It might be a cheaper Suhr though.
But you could make a Walmart guitar sound great!
FALSE. The Ibanez was killed as part of an FBI cover up also possibly involving ex pat Cubans, and the mafia. It’s really important you don’t share lies on your channel. You have a voice and an audience. Be better.
😂
No its not. And oh. No its not.
Sorry, not gonna drop €900 on a overseas guitar from an unknown brand. No-name pickups, awful logo on the headstock, it doesn't even have SS frets. They are pricing it as though they are an established brand, which they are not. They should stick to the €200 market.
It should be HSH, something about these "Suhr Modern" style guitars with a HSS configuration makes me uneasy.
Looks more than a "Suhr Standard" than a modern
@@ErickGonzalesF Idk, 24 frets, the body shape sort of screams Modern more than standard but well, it's Jet's choice. It looks alright.
Something very AZ-ish about that guitar... 😮
Why not just buy a used real suhr modern for a few hundred more? lol. It'll be a better guitar and you can easily sell it for what you paid.
even a used suhr is very different to find for under $2000 or even $3000 for a modern, and as much as i love their guitars its just difficult for many people to spend or justify that much compared to $500-800 or less for a very similar experience once it is set up well
I'd love to know where you're finding Suhr guitars for a few hundred more than this?
@@BobW5150he’s on some strong stuff seeing unicorns too lol
That's a John Suhr rip-off as most superstrats, including Ibanez, for more than 15 years since Guthrie had his signature with them, back when he was ripping off the faces of everyone with his playing... that John Suhr headstock, it's been everywhere since 2010... copied and replicated since... if Suhr had maintained and invested in those early Rasmus guitars, he would have been dominating todays Asian made high end guitars..
I'd rather have an ESP than an actual Suhr. Even just a Mirage or Snapper.
I just don't see the point. The best value Ibanez is an Ibanez. The cheap alternative to an Ibanez is an Ibanez. e.g You've got signatures for Guthrie Govan from the USA for £3.5k and Rabea (? ) for £4.4k - but you can get signature guitars from Ibanez, for players that might be getting on a bit now but Vai, Satriani, Gilbert and they're all under £3k (they do a few fancy pants finishes and models higher) - and there's all the AZ series are around the £2k mark, including a couple of signatures - and if you can't stretch to that, there's guitars more or less specced identically, including SS frets, roasted maple around the £1k mark - which also includes a few signature models from some really new and popular artists like Henson - as well as a lot of very talented youtubers. You know I can watch Gardiner or Miller or Quayle playing music and think "Ooh I'd like a guitar like that" and it's £2k ish. Whereas you watch Rick Graham playing exercises and he's never written a piece of music so far as I'm aware and his signature is over £3k. So, the cheap Ibanez is an Ibanez.
And Charvel / Music Man do try to compete by selling a pretend signature. They've got pretend signatures from Graham and Govan made in Japan but then you're getting a guitar that Guthrie doesn't actually play, although he probably played it on a few gigs for contractual reasons. And other cheap Charvels all cut down the spec compared with Ibanez, like losing SS frets.
And if you don't want to spend that, there's RG series at every price point. And myriad others. The cheap Ibanez is the Ibanez. But the £1k you save you still get a hard case and tool and well built guitar. Perhaps the QC slips down a bit with the Cort built stuff, but that's where retailers like Peach exist to filter out the bad. Which is why even though Cort sell a perfectly good guitar that's made by the same people who make Ibanez has more or less the same spec but is a bit cheaper they still don't sell compared with Ibanez. Why? Because you'll just buy the Ibanez, have the brand - because when you click on youtube for the Cort there's no one playing it that can play. Maybe the odd person does a demo, but most of the people playing them can't play - it's like Rabea and the others at Andertons, they just sit and make noise. Whenever I click on a channel with someone who can play the bulk of their output is played on the guitars they actually like, so you ignore the sponsored videos they make and think "What does this guy play most of the time?" and it's his AZ or whatever - and so why not own that? If you could get a Guthrie Govan signature for £2k that he actually used they probably would have sold as many as Ibanez have Jem - well, perhaps not, but certainly more than Guthrie going with Suhr and Charvel USA. Ibanez is the cheap Ibanez. Govan once bought a Jem right early at his career - it was probably a stretch for someone working at McDonalds and he realised soon after that if he was going to be a name in the guitar world he needed his own guitar not someone else's, but I think that says it all about why making an Ibanez copy makes no sense (a) Ibanez already make Ibanez copies and (b) The top end is as affordable as top end guitars get - and they have a big pull. Like Yamaha - a Yamaha is the cheap Yamaha, except people actually play Ibanez (Yamaha are getting close with Chris Buck and Matteo Mancuso - but you can't actually buy the guitars they play and I suspect they'll lose MM to another brand)
The only people really competing with them are Gibson and Fender - and perhaps the bigger online retailers who effectively cut out the brand by going straight to the manufacturers, the brands that Thomann and Andertons sell - but these are generally bought by people who want a better guitar they're beginners who parents aren't sure they'll stick with it etc.
And so there's no point for these mid tier guitars really - especially when they're not real brands. It's like Chapman don't make guitars. You could sit on the phone and maybe take a flight out to India or Korea and have your own guitar called 'Cordy' if you wanted. The only thing Chapman had was a buddy who owned a guitar shop. He's not actually making anything. It's barely a step above drop shipping. So why would I ever covet or want to buy one of his guitars? Because the market is just flooded with guitar brands who don't actually make anything - and this is another new brand that has nothing new at all, no reason to buy one. Even if the guitars they produce are great they're just another guitar with the same specs from the same factories.
At least when Strandburg did this they came up with a few ideas, a weird neck, an interesting body shape. What does this guitar have that every other one doesn't? nothing.
Soon these factories will realise they don't need Chapman or any of the wannabee guitar brands, or the retailers, and they'll start selling direct to us - because these people do nothing in the main (there are a few retailers who give a service, but most of them just ship boxes from the manufacturer) - and if they want to market it they only need to give a few examples to youtubers and they'll all do that - at that point though, Ibanez will still sell loads of guitars because there are guitarists who play to a really high standard playing them, and they are affordable. This Jet guitar will never have that. You might play one today but you won't keep playing it, and no one will sit like Vai, Gardiner or Quayle who you can see genuinely love their instrument with these brands. Govan loves his, but it's too expensive. Rabea's is too expensive and he can't play it. PRS have a fair number playing, but they mostly sell guitar furniture to people who hang them on the wall and look at them, like the Fender custom shop and Gibson - well no one is going to buy a Jet for £10k+ to sit and look at it - look at Chapman's laughable attempts to make expensive Chapmans - because he hasn't got a single skilled guitarist to ever play one.