It still amazes me that sex between two consenting but unmarried people is a deadly sin, but rape of a little child is admired. Absolutely mind blowing.
@@englishlessonswithtracy1488 Do you think that the body of a caveman now is the same as a human body? Circumstances differ, culture differs, and the passage of time changes
Exactly. The cult founder is given esteemed status. The esteem is continually reinforced. Even reinforced to the point if having to relentlessly esteem the cult founder in every reference. The cult founder, (peace be upon him) is the focus of complete obedience.
“The french kings married 14 year olds” Ma’am, the french kings were not claiming to be prophets of God, the best of mankind nor were they claiming to be receiving revelations from an all knowing God. Thank you.
@@Neko.Virtual Loads of serial killers, cult leaders and rapists claimed they were divinely guided. The Quran however makes a few special claims for it self. That it’s the last message to humanity, that Muhammad is the best of creation, that he must be obeyed and that he’s the last prophet. Pretty big claims and indoctrinated into young kids from the get go. We can look at those french kings and say they were wrong, and yet there are millions of people willing to die and kill for Mo and even worse, emulate his behaviour.
@@Neko.Virtual Good people are not child raping war criminals. Islam brought barbarism and decay wherever it went back then, and wherever it goes now. It's holy text is more nonsensical and vile than any that had come before it. We have nothing to learn from Islam and it's degenerate prophet. Go lay down and think about here and now. Take a break from shilling for a sex addict warlord of the 7th century.
@@Neko.Virtual LOL Mohamed used God to justify his evil deeds. He used God to marry Aysha. He used God to mary Zeinab, he used God to attack christians and jews, he used God to kill the jews , he used God for all the evil he has done. He motivate his soldiers to attack christians and jews to take their wifes and children as slaves and their properties, he used God to catch spoils of war . Quran 8:1 THEY WILL ASK thee about the spoils of war. Say: "All spoils of war belong to God and the Apostle." Remain, then, conscious of God, and keep alive the bonds of brotherhood among yourselves, and pay heed unto God and His Apostle, if you are [truly] believers What a dirty religion.
It is NOT ok even when parents agree, because, IT IS THE CHILD HEALTH & RIGHTS to BE HONORED & NOT the Pedophile & The Unethical Parents in a Sexual Cult
We have child protective services in the United States. If you see or suspect abuse sexual or any kind, it is required that you report it, or you can be charged as an accomplice. If any pervert touches a child and I'm around, it won't end well for him.
@@aabdullah2996 how many slaves did jesus have? Your mohammed was a champion of slave trade. Tell anytime Jesus killed anyone? Your Mohammed was a terrible killer. Stop the nonsense. Compare Jesus and Mohammed. Period Till today, arabic countries still trade africans as slaves, and countries like UAE, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Oman and other have law supporting it. Mention any Western country still supporting slave trade?
@@宇原家 Matt 18:6 " “If anyone causes one of these little ones-those who believe in me-to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea" Mo (c.p.b.u.h) hurt many many young children, starting from Aisha. We hope he enjoys his sleep with the fishes.
When she said we cannot critique Muhammad. I remembered an old quote. 'The greatest achievement of religion is not convincing people that there is a God but convincing people that we cannot think against it.'
Religion is natural to mankind across different civilizations, tribes, etc. Which means, people are naturally convinced. And so what usually happens is that people need someone attempting to convince them against what they naturally believe in order to leave that belief.
@MyoYoneda some set of transcendent values that may or not vary in some aspects, from place to place, accompanied by practices that attempt to stabilish connections with the divine, however it is perceived in each society at their basis, along with a sense of the Sacred.
Definitley is, it kinda sucks, but basically all religious people are in conflict with self, but Muslims girls to me def are in a ton of conflict with themselfs as they should a lot of them are getting oppressed either willingly or unwillingly. Apostate Prophet makes great points and observations, I hope some listen. God and Allah has there reasons, gimmie a break.
@@jameson95x Yes!!! Alot of women are oppressed in the nightclubs, brothels, strip clubs, lads mags, billboards. And all you can say is Muslim women are oppressed being married.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@priortokaraew7569 Islamic law is bad %100 as the case with all religious laws. Religion should be a private matter that doesn't effect even one's own children, children are citizens and have rights. In her twisted mind children are property.
@@3aZM u r talking nonsense i can tell..so u r saying institutional law is better lol no wonder there are rapist, muderer ,school shooter everywhere..cant even tell wether cops is good or bad nowdays lol
I feel bad for the woman, she’s obviously had a rough life , which then subjected her to psychological damage making her vulnerable to Islam. We need to deal with people like these with compassion and help them out of it. She even admits her double standards.
We must not be silent !!! TOO SEXUAL VIOLENCE in the KORAN against CHILDREN !! Fornication is forbidden according to the Bible! In all situations it is FORBIDDEN !! ******But in the Koran fornication is allowed !! Even with children !!** Here everything is allowed for SEXUAL satisfaction! Possession of your right hand = SLAVE !! Sura 4,3 And if you fear that you will not be righteous towards the orphans, marry whatever is good for you in women, two, three or four; and if you fear not being cheap, (marry) one or something in your right hand (hand is = SLAVES also CHILDREN). This is the best way to avoid injustice. Allah allows fornication with slaves !! = rape of children is included !! Disgusting what Islam implies to God!
Nope, sorry. AP DOESN'T UNDESTAND SIMPLE LOGIC. Allowing doesn't mean obligating it. You are allowed to eat shrimp, you are NOT obligated to eat it. AP just hates Islam. Period.
@@diarimachanjust the fact that it is allowed to a 9y old hitting puberty can marry a 60y old is wild,it’s not about being obligated or not,just the fact that is allowed is scary
@@diarimachanit seems like you are the one who does not understand anything. His whole point is that, she is part of a belief system that ‘allows’ child marriage. The system makes it ‘permissible’. The system says it’s ‘ok’ to do it… and that is a wrong system. Understood?
She argues like a civilized person,which is good.Her arguements on child marriage are somewhat inconsistent.Child marriage is bad all round,should be condemded,no matter who does it.
No one can accuse a Christian of that, for sure. The topic is the so called Islam religion which turns a blind eye to this issue. I reject all religions but if I had to choose one I'll choose early Protestantism
Also that Jewish thing. That called a Mohel who does that. You can be Jewish and not call a Mohel EVER. The actual practice of Bris has been altered enough over time that im okay with letting that one go. I dont want to know what kind of guy becomes a Mohel.
I was thinking the same. It's not at all her choice. Her husband say first and if he plans on marrying off their kid then she have to obey the husband obviously. ITS THE MOST WISE RELIGION 😭
Xtians , jews do not condem their prophets and religious people for doing that for centuries, the point is only “what are the conditions for marriage in these religions and the minmum age if there wer any
@@existence.5806 Why is the sky blue? The Old Testament answers this 1,000s of years before modern science. Genesis (NRSV) 1:6a "And God said, “Let there be a dome in the midst of the waters," 1:6b "let it separate the waters from the waters." 1:7 "So God made the dome and separated the waters that were under the dome from the waters that were above the dome. And it was so." 1:14a "And God said, “Let there be lights in the dome of the sky" 7:11d "...and the windows of the heavens were opened." 8:2bc "the windows of the heavens were closed, the rain from the heavens was restrained," Psalm 148:4-6 "Praise him, you highest heavens, and you waters above the heavens! Let them praise the name of the LORD, for he commanded and they were created. He established them forever and ever; he fixed their bounds, which cannot be passed." Proverbs 8:28-29 "when he made firm the skies above, when he established the fountains of the deep, when he assigned to the sea its limit, so that the waters might not transgress his command, when he marked out the foundations of the earth," Job 22:12, :14c “Is not God high in the heavens? See the highest stars, how lofty they are!" "...and he walks on the dome of heaven.’" Job 37:18 "Can you, like him, spread out the skies, hard as a molten mirror?" Isa. 24:18b "For the windows of heaven are opened, and the foundations of the earth tremble." "Finally, it is worth pointing out that the world picture of the Jewish people, as reconstructed from various passages in the Bible, was essentially the same as that of the Egyptians and the Babylonians. ...The flat, disc-shaped Earth is surrounded by a sea; beneath the Earth, there are wells and fountains connected with the upper part of the Earth as well as with the great deep, called Tehom. The Earth rests on pillars, and above it is the sky or firmament. Waters are to be found not only on the Earth or beneath it, but also above the firmament." Helge S. Kragh, Conception of Cosmos, pp. 10 So the sky is blue because a massive molten glass dome holds up an ocean. Also the reason why when looking over the ocean the dark blue does not mix with the light blue all due to an unpassable barrier. Who knew but the Lord. Even though the Quran mentions terrestrial salt and fresh water seas, there's references though vague are reminiscent of the OT's cosmology (perhaps a vestige of the OT). Quran Pickthal/The Clear Quran (PICKT) 21.032 "And we have made the sky a roof withheld (from them). Yet they turn away from its portents." (TCQ) 21.32 "And We have made the sky a well-protected canopy, still they turn away from its signs." (PICKT) 25.053 "And He it is Who hath given independence to the two seas (though they meet); one palatable, sweet, and the other saltish, bitter; and hath set a bar and a forbidding ban between them." (TCQ) 25.53 "And He is the One Who merges the two bodies of water: one fresh and palatable and the other salty and bitter, placing between them a barrier they cannot cross." (PICKT) 27.061 "Is not He (best) Who made the earth a fixed abode, and placed rivers in the folds thereof, and placed firm hills therein, and hath set a barrier between the two seas? Is there any God beside Allah ? Nay, but most of them know not!" (TCQ) 27.61 "Or [ask them,] “Who made the earth a place of settlement, caused rivers to flow through it, placed firm mountains upon it, and set a barrier between [fresh and salt] bodies of water? Was it another god besides God?” Absolutely not! But most of them do not know." (PICKT) 55.019-020 "He hath loosed the two seas. They meet. There is a barrier between them. They encroach not (one upon the other)." (TCQ) 55.19-.20 "He merges the two bodies of [fresh and salt] water, yet between them is a barrier they never cross."
Three reasons why one (not relying on faith) should be agnostic about the claim "Jesus certainly existed". 1) The Gospels/Acts are overflowing with signs of literary fabrication. "Those who want to find a historical record in Mark face an even greater obstacle than the ambiguous evidence for Mark's literary borrowing of non-Jesus material to create Jesus stories. This obstacle is the fact that if Jesus' earthly ministry actually happened as Mark portrays it, the history of Paul's Gentile mission and the opposition it encountered would be incomprehensible. How could it be that neither Paul nor anyone who worked with him, nor his opponents, knew about Jesus' determined endorsement of a mixed community sharing table fellowship together? How is it that everyone somehow forgot that Jesus explicitly "declared all foods clean (7:19)"? In the pitched battles Paul waged against his Judaizing opponents in his epistles, any one of the many stories about Jesus' conflicts over Law observance would have been devastating evidence of the rightness of Paul's side, yet none are ever mentioned." Tom Dykstra, Mark, Canonizer of Paul, pp. 229-230 "A raft of scholars, including Randel Helms, Thomas L. Brodie, John Dominic Crossan and others, have shown again and again how this and that Gospel passage likely originated as a Christian rewrite of this or that Old Testament passage." Thomas L Thompson, Is This Not the Carpenter, pp. 113-114 "Yet, regardless of the difficulty, comparing Luke-Acts and Mark with this verifiable literary antecedent is worthwhile. A key reason is simple: in looking for a literary precedent to the Gospels there is no verifiable pre-Christian text which comes as close to any gospel as the Elijah-Elisha narrative does to Luke-Acts and Mark." Thomas Brodie, The Crucial Bridge, pp. 97 "While issues with the gospels are certainly not enough to rule out the possibility that there was a historical Jesus behind the gospel story, it also cannot be said with certainty that there must have been one. The lack of primary sources and the problems with the Gospel stories alone, would seemingly justify having some doubt." Raphael Lataster, Jesus Did Not Exist, Sources: We All Know They're Rubbish - pp. 35/73 "The use of cycles, parallels, repetitions, melodramatic characterization, stereotyped scene construction, inventing or presenting stories that replicate biblical narrative, unbalanced narrative with evident symbolic import, and a balanced structure-all these raise insurmountable objections. History cannot be quite so symmetrical. In addition there are any number of historical problems." Richard Pervo, The Mystery of Acts, pp. 151 Note: Nowhere in Acts do the authorities show concern that Jesus escaped justice. "Despite scholarly efforts to detect an underlying Aramaic original for Mark or Matthew, it is probable that all the evangelists wrote in the common (koinē) Greek of their day. Further, the vast majority of Hebrew Bible citations in the New Testament are taken from the Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible (the Septuagint)." "Large sections of Matthew, Mark, and Luke repeat stories about and sayings of Jesus in nearly identical words. Hence these three Gospels are referred to as the “Synoptic” Gospels. On a linguistic level, both Luke and Matthew improve on Mark’s style, smoothing out inelegant expressions and repetitions. Luke eliminates Mark’s characteristic use of parataxis (one short phrase following another without indicating how they are related) by employing balancing particles and subordinate clauses. Matthew follows Mark’s outline, though the insertion of considerable sections of discourse material may obscure that relationship for the casual reader. Luke knows most of Mark but has no parallels to Mk 6:45-8:26; whether Luke chose to omit this section or had a different version of Mark remains unclear. Detailed analysis of the traditions shared by Matthew, Mark, and Luke provides strong support for the view that Mark provided the template that Matthew and Luke revised, both correcting and smoothing out its language and expanding the Jesus material it contained." "While the Synoptic Gospels have a close literary relationship, the Fourth Gospel, the Gospel of John, presents a much greater puzzle. Its chronology of Jesus’s ministry differs from that of the Synoptics. In John, Jesus spends three years preaching, during which he journeys between Galilee and Jerusalem; in the Synoptic Gospels, he visits Jerusalem only once, at the end of a ministry that apparently lasted less than a year." The New Oxford Annotated Bible NRSV, pp. 1380-1381 2) The earliest Xtian writings (Pauline Epistles) are odd when looked at closely. Paul is adamant that his Gospel is not from humans, but from scripture, and visions/dreams (Gal. 1:11-18, Rom. 15:4, 1 Cor. 15:3-8). A secret hidden through the ages now revealed (Rom. 16:25-26, 1 Cor. 2:6-7). Also Paul says his apostleship is by the same means as the founding Pillars (Gal. 2:6-8). Paul's preexisting being was killed for looking like a human (Phili. 2:7), and his killers would not have killed him if they knew it was God's secret plan for mankind's salvation (1 Cor. 2:6-8). This makes more sense when looking at the Joshua/Jesus in the OT who tricks Satan and is exalted by God. Note that these verses have what can be perceived as symbolisms for flesh (dirty clothes= sinful flesh & Five Kings= Five Senses that enslaves one to sin). So Zech. 3:1-9, 6:11-13, & Jos. 10:22-27 together symbolically has a Jesus in a flesh disguise getting hung in a tree, shoved into a tomb, and exalted by God to remove guilt of the land. Zechariah 3:1-9 "1 Then he showed me the high priest Joshua (Savior) standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan (Adversary) standing at his right hand to accuse him. 2 And the LORD said to Satan, "The LORD rebuke you, O Satan! The LORD who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Is not this man a brand plucked from the fire?" 3 Now Joshua was dressed with filthy clothes as he stood before the angel. 4 The angel said to those who were standing before him, "Take off his filthy clothes." And to him he said, "See, I have taken your guilt away from you, and I will clothe you with festal apparel." 5 And I said, "Let them put a clean turban on his head." So they put a clean turban on his head and clothed him with the apparel; and the angel of the LORD was standing by. 6 Then the angel of the LORD assured Joshua, saying 7 "Thus says the LORD of hosts: If you will walk in my ways and keep my requirements, then you shall rule my house and have charge of my courts, and I will give you the right of access among those who are standing here. 8 Now listen, Joshua, high priest, you and your colleagues who sit before you! For they are an omen of things to come: I am going to bring my servant the Branch. 9 For on the stone that I have set before Joshua, on a single stone with seven facets, I will engrave its inscription, says the LORD of hosts, and I will remove the guilt of this land in a single day." Zechariah 6:11-13 11 Take the silver and gold and make a crown, and set it on the head of the high priest Joshua son of Jehozadak (Savior Son of the Righteous God); 12 say to him: Thus says the LORD of hosts: Here is a man whose name is Branch: for he shall branch out in his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD. 13 It is he that shall build the temple of the LORD; he shall bear royal honor, and shall sit upon his throne and rule. There shall be a priest by his throne, with peaceful understanding between the two of them." Joshua 10:22-27 "22 Then Joshua (Savior) said, "Open the mouth of the cave, and bring those five kings out to me from the cave." 23 They did so, and brought the five kings out to him from the cave, the king of Jerusalem, the king of Hebron, the king of Jarmuth, the king of Lachish, and the king of Eglon. 24 When they brought the kings out to Joshua, Joshua summoned all the Israelites, and said to the chiefs of the warriors who had gone with him, "Come near, put your feet on the necks of these kings." Then they came near and put their feet on their necks. (see Psa. 110:1/Heb. 10:13) 25 And Joshua said to them, "Do not be afraid or dismayed; be strong and courageous; for thus the LORD will do to all the enemies against whom you fight." 26 Afterward Joshua struck them down and put them to death, and he hung them on five trees. And they hung on the trees until evening. 27 At sunset Joshua commanded, and they took them down from the trees and threw them into the cave where they had hidden themselves; they set large stones against the mouth of the cave, which remain to this very day. (see also Deut. 21:22-23/Gal. 3:13)" 3) Verses held up as undeniable evidences for an historical Jesus have plausible alternative explanations. The verse Gal. 4:4b "God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under the law," looks to have Jesus born of a woman, and is Jewish. But what Paul could mean is that "woman/law" is Divine Wisdom (Greek Sophia personified feminine wisdom/see Prov. 3:13-20, 8:1-36, Baruch 3:37, 4:1) in that Jesus was made all knowing unlike Adam. The verse Gal. 1:19 "but I did not see any other apostle except James the LORD's brother." is seen as a slam dunk for historicity. But Paul's theology is of spiritual kinship (Gal. 4:5-7) and everyone in Christ are brothers/sisters. Paul makes no distinction that this James is blood related to Jesus, and maybe "Lord's brother" is a cultic title? The verse Rom. 1:3b "who was descended from David according to the flesh" (2 Sam. 7:12) is good evidence for historicity. But 2 Sam. 7:12c "who shall come forth from your body," can mean God made a flesh body from David's semen for Jesus (it was a belief that the male seed contained the whole body). This is a convenient way to fulfill messianic prophecy for a celestial event instead of on Earth.
Poor woman. Deluded and blinded by an evil ideology. She also exhibits that classic Islamic characteristic of avoiding the question. The discussion was really sensitively handled too. Well done A.P. 👏
AP DOESN'T UNDESTAND SIMPLE LOGIC. Allowing doesn't mean obligating it. You are allowed to eat shrimp, you are NOT obligated to eat it. AP just hates Islam. Period.
"X historical figure did it too!" Yes, and that was BAD, we don't allow murder just because a famous person did it, we call it out for whoever did it. Girl is really grasping at straws here, that's how desperate she is to defend something indefensible.
@@darlinger2838 very perfect indeed that one stupid verse that says:when sheytan farts it causes calamities so perfect indeed muhhamad ordered his fellow Muslims to shame jews and Christians when they come across to each other
@@darlinger2838 very perfect indeed that one stupid verse that says:when sheytan farts it causes calamities so perfect indeed muhhamad ordered his fellow Muslims to shame jews and Christians when they come across to each other
Allah is all knowing indeed but no one knows who controlled muhhamad that time was it Allah or sheytan? Very perfect indeed the power of interpretation
AP, you are a true gentleman. You handled this poor misguided woman with appropriate gentleness, while at the same time not compromising truth. Well done, sir.
I watched the full live discussion, it was a disaster for the lady, and AP was patient all through, though he was obviously disgusted. May God help the lady and deliver her from her hypocrisy
So why don't you arrange for me to talk to AP? Then talk to me after. He's just bullying a poor kind woman who is falling for his tricks. Go on arrange a discussion!
@@abdullahk8691 I do care about how I spend my precious time. May God the Father deliver Ur soul from hell. May the peace of Christ be with U. Take care
@@da698 lol I've been debating with Christians here for two days. Over 90% of people making comments here and following AP are Christian. Most are masquerading behind western liberal imperialism! 😂😂😂😂
She keeps saying she wouldn’t allow it not realizing that in an Islamic state or even an Islamic marriage, she has ZERO say in allowing or preventing anything, since she is a female
"the best we can do is just not allow our daughters to go in to it because they're not gonna be the wife of a prophet." so its okay as long as your young daughter is getting married to a prophet? what kinda logic is that?
Can you give specific examples of Muslims on UA-cam not being honest? Do you think followers of the Jewish or Christian faiths are more honest than Muslims(if so, then why?)✌🏽
Their excuse is: -It was done by others in the past: This cannot justify it cause we learned that it was wrong,that what people did before was bad, we learned many thing in the past was bad. Slavery etc forced marriage, racism, human evolve and not that you accuse someone that did it too, that your action became pure -It is Allah's choice so it have a reason that we might not know: If we go like this every beliefs are pure and every actions too, let say killing people is a thing in a religion and the explanation of it is: God want it and he gave reason that we don't know, then this religion doesn't make sense, the messenger can just do anything!
All believers are hypocrites in same way shape or form; all humans are, the issue is some of us acknowledge this and some of us think a magic space man controls everything everywhere
@@existence.5806 I don't think I understand what you are getting at. I'm pretty sure they are allowed to leave the country if they want under the Shariah.
God, did she just say she has full authority over her daughter?! Children are human beings too and just because you're a parent, doesn't mean you can just 'give off' your child in marriage to a 50 something guy?!
4:39 "each mother can just say no" No. Each mother CANNOT say 'no'. In islam, it is the man of the family who makes such decisions. If a mother would object to that, she would get beaten up to be put in her place. This woman doesnt know what she is talking about.
And how sympathetic and gentle he was with this girl, clearly an upstanding and moral human being who is having great difficulty in dealing with some very uncomfortable truths about her prophet.
AP doesn’t analyze things from multiple different angles. The question he asked is nothing knew. These questions have been answered by Islamic scholars but haters like AP have their own agenda. Peace ✌️
@@seekknowledge2010 there’s nothing to analyze. It’s a simple question - did she condone the mohamed marrying a 6 year old girl and violating her at just 9 years old. She wouldn’t allow her daughter to marry a 50 plus man but she couldn’t condemn Mohamed. It’s a dilemma for her but not for non Muslims
She contradicts herself with every justification of the practice. "Oh but mediaeval king's married 12 and 14 year old girls..." Yes that may well be the case but that was in the middle ages and western society evolved, Islam is the only society that hasn't evolved with regard to child marriage, or slavery for that matter. It was also interesting to note that her only prerequisites for allowing her daughter to be married off were being mentally capable (SSO does that mean once the girl learns and accepts that she has to be married off soon after having her first period?) and once she's had her period. No mention of she should be an adult or at least close to adulthood. What is this woman's definition of mentally mature? Because I'm certain that she isn't even mentally capable. She comes from a family of intergenerational child abuse, then joins the allow religion in the world that actively encourages child abuse.
More importantly no one has held up those kings as role models for all mankind - and the best person to have ever lived. No one idolizes them as much as muslims idolize mohammad.
We must not be silent !!! TOO SEXUAL VIOLENCE in the KORAN against CHILDREN !! Fornication is forbidden according to the Bible! In all situations it is FORBIDDEN !! *******But in the Koran fornication is allowed !! Even with children !!*** Here everything is allowed for SEXUAL satisfaction! Possession of your right hand = SLAVE !! Sura 4,3 And if you fear that you will not be righteous towards the orphans, marry whatever is good for you in women, two, three or four; and if you fear not being cheap, (marry) one or something in your right hand (hand is = SLAVES also CHILDREN). This is the best way to avoid injustice. Allah allows fornication with slaves !! = rape of children is included !! Disgusting what Islam implies to God!
In America, if someone tries to marry their child off to an adult, you can absolutely call the cops on them. Absolutely. It is believed that the incident in Waco was started over that... very... thing.
I mean that's true...just like a lot of other countries though, lol. Even ones in the Middle-East. What's your point? I was born and raised in America and in the south there are still REALLY low ages to get married and the age of consent(without parental approval) is also really low in most southern states You might be able to fool non-American viewers but you can't fool a fellow American✌🏼. We also have a lot of shitty places like Las Vegas and Hollywood where females are essentially sold into sex slavery.
@@ApologeticsAddict We captured some of the women as captives, and the long separation from our wives was pressing us hard and we wanted to release sperms outside of the women. We asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) (whether it was permissible). He said, "It is better for you to release sperms inside. No soul, (that which Allah has) destined to exist, up to the Day of Resurrection, but will definitely come, into existence." Sahih al-Bukhari 2542
@@ApologeticsAddict Yeah, like in Texas the age is _16,_ but what's _your_ point, other than being rude? She literally said that you can't do anything about it if someone married their 6-year-old off to a 50-something-year-old man. I said, "yes, you can." If you didn't hear that argument, you might need to open your ears a bit.
@@ApologeticsAddict Does that also mean that Mo was a hypersexualized retard and criminal who committed the same atrocities, except where sane people condemn criminals and their crimes, Abdools worship one?
AP, I'm very impressed by your ability to convey your points. You were really sharp and quick to point out discrepancies, and it's clear that you were coming from a place of empathy and respect for this woman. Like AP said at the end, I also think she has a conflicted belief and it's made obvious when she's confronted with a difficult question.
Arguing like a civilized person while justifying monstrous and absurd things like child marriage just shows how perverse this woman is. The norms of politeness are not above the truth and the defense of the innocent. No wonder this wicked woman adhered to Islam.
Please don't judge her. You havent walked a mile in her shoes. You'd be amazed at the veil of covering that makes people lack basic understanding. I live in a country where millions of women don't even have a voice, you'd be amazed at the level of confusion in their minds. She sounds civilized,but does she sound like someone free from the horror of her childhood? Absolutely not! She's tied to the very thing that messed her up. Who supports a system that defiled and traumatized them? Pity her,don't judge her.
@@Haddasahssecret It's not about 'judging' her; it's about her erroneous thinking. Don't you see, she's not condemning others for abusing kids? This upsets me. So she was abused as a child and says: It's OK that others do it, I just wouldn't! I condemn the actions of who molests little kids by giving them in marriage at such a young tender age. Evil should be condemned. Just want her to Condemn evil and not excuse it; something missing in her thinking! Walking a mile in her shoes, has nothing to do with condemning evil!!
06:51 "the best we can do is not allow our daughters to get into it, because they will not going to be the wives of a prophet". This way of thinking is pure evil. So she is against child rape, but just as long as the rapist is not a prophet, as long as the rapist is not a person of power. Basically, as long as someone is the cult leader, she will give her daughter to be raped. That's why the Hand Maiden's Tale is actually a reality for many muslim women.
Irony is ..... a prophet is not supposed to be a paedophile... anyone can claim to be a prophet and say "now give me your daughtr, it's my birth right"
Honestly - this was exactly how I viewed Islam as a woman when I was still a believer. I thought Allah was an asshole, but as our creator we must obey. Eventually I got out, not because I had enough of the unfairness, but because I'm a scientist now by training and could not overlook the mistakes about the natural world littered throughout the Qu'ran. I think (or maybe just hope) that Milahan gets out one day. It's a patriarchal system that cloaks its justification for abuse in prophetic language and keeps you following with literal, actual psychological trauma - the persistent fear of damnation. This woman has survived so much, I think it'd be a real shame if she spent the rest of her days under the yoke of a system that doesn't give a shit about her.
@Nadje Najar. I'm glad you got out. According to some Muslims, the Koran has so much "scientific evidence" that Scientists are converting to Islam. That's how so utterly deluded these people are. I think the quickest way to become an atheist is to take a course on astronomy. The sheer size of the universe is mind boggling.
I believe she may later come to the conclusion that one Muslim who debated David Wood said "I can no longer defend Muhammad. He was a terrible person." I don't remember his name but he was a young man who tried to defend Islam for years.
This is what make"s us ( non muslims ) very difficult to believe God could choose a Men to deliver his most Holiest message and that men did not have Ideal Ethical Lifestyle ( If any one can rationalise Old man marrying a 6 Year Child its simply out of Cognitive Dissonance not due to Rationality )..
Great Job AP...... We can conclude that the The Prophet was a Copycat that copied Joseph and Mary with child marriage...... Also how The Almighty God implanted himself into a young 12 year old girls casts religions in general under suspicious light.........
According to christianity and early churches marry married at 11 Lol also theres slavery in the bible according to the bible its ok which is disturbing
We must not be silent !!! TOO SEXUAL VIOLENCE in the KORAN against CHILDREN !! Fornication is forbidden according to the Bible! In all situations it is FORBIDDEN !! *******But in the Koran fornication is allowed !! Even with children !!*** Here everything is allowed for SEXUAL satisfaction! Possession of your right hand = SLAVE !! Sura 4,3 And if you fear that you will not be righteous towards the orphans, marry whatever is good for you in women, two, three or four; and if you fear not being cheap, (marry) one or something in your right hand (hand is = SLAVES also CHILDREN). This is the best way to avoid injustice. Allah allows fornication with slaves !! = rape of children is included !! Disgusting what Islam implies to God!
@Lorenzo Green okay and? don't get me wrong a marriage between a 8 years old child and a 90 years old man is something terrible however that doesn't justify that a 50 year old man married a 9 year old girl
@Lorenzo Green I am not a Christian. I live in the Republic of China. I think you are confused. Maybe Allah is not speaking clearly enough to you. Pray more. ;)
@Lorenzo Green Oh stop speaking nonsense. The owner of this site is an atheist. Lunatic religions are a concern for ALL of humanity. Not just you and your silly god and so-called prophet. Your answer demonstrates to me the kind of "culture" your religion brings to the world. You don't even know that Taiwan is not China - such ignorance is common amongst your so-called religion.
I don't understand the argument "it was another time, people in those times did it". Is Mohammed the prophet of all time or only of his time? Was he the best human being or not? It makes no sense
Unfortunately, in most American states, the law allows children to marry adults as long as the parent consents and a judge does not overrule the marriage. This is the case mostly to appease trad-Christian groups such as the Mennonites (incliding the Amish) and Primitive Baptists, who believe a girl should be wed soon after her period.
AP DOESN'T UNDESTAND SIMPLE LOGIC. Allowing doesn't mean obligating it. You are allowed to eat shrimp, you are NOT obligated to eat it. AP just hates Islam. Period.
NO CIVILIZED PERSON makes excuses from others I condemn this kind of behavior Therefore I condemn this woman for doing such thing Bad is bad, wrong is wrong, nothing justifies bad things
I want to add extreme poverty as well, many Muslim countries are dealing with poverty like Afghanistan, and in a culture that women are already considered less than men, they will sell them or marry them off to gain some money
I love that instead of "destroying" her, you held her with a delicate yet firm grip. She's intelligent and not a hypocrite, respect to both of you. Spiritual people can be interested in and inspired by various religions, value them for what they are. Religious people need an answer to everything, and it comes with the promise that they'll finally understand it after they die.
Understand it after they die? What??? No justification for molesting little girls at a young age. Ignorant and sad. Young girls should NEVER be given in marriage. Never! After they die and understand, be damned.
@@WandaWojcik You don't understand, I don't understand, no one understands because no one ever came back from the dead to tell. See the beauty of the plot ;)
@@MojocasterOo Being self aware not enough when you still insist on justifying hypocrisies: For example you can be a smoker and say smoking is bad. But if you say smoking is bad and you smoking and when somebody point it out you say but it is okay for me than no it is not okay. Just because you self aware not get rid of being hypocrite
Also, if I am not wrong, she needs the permission of her husband/Wali to do it. Besides, the fact that she refuses to criticize child marriage and instead talks around the subject of the law allowing it is a clear indication that she doesn't actually see it as something wrong or something that should be gotten rid of. She is confused, still having remnants of her Western values and trying very hard to reconcile it with Islamic teaching.
Yeah, abolished adoption after muhammad fell in love with zainab (ex daughter in law and cousin). How allah creates law convenient to muhammad! more than the moon splitting, i think it Is greatest miracle of islm.
We must not be silent !!! TOO SEXUAL VIOLENCE in the KORAN against CHILDREN !! Fornication is forbidden according to the Bible! In all situations it is FORBIDDEN !! *******But in the Koran fornication is allowed !! Even with children !!*** Here everything is allowed for SEXUAL satisfaction! Possession of your right hand = SLAVE !! Sura 4,3 And if you fear that you will not be righteous towards the orphans, marry whatever is good for you in women, two, three or four; and if you fear not being cheap, (marry) one or something in your right hand (hand is = SLAVES also CHILDREN). This is the best way to avoid injustice. Allah allows fornication with slaves !! = rape of children is included !! Disgusting what Islam implies to God!
This woman just verified that she is a better person than the one she calls her best example.Therein lies a contradiction Muslims must face. They call Muhammad their best example, yet many of them would never do several of the things he did. Muslims, wake up.⏰You are too good for Muhammad.
Great Job by AP...... We can conclude that the The Prophet was a Copycat that copied Joseph and Mary with child marriage...... Also how The Almighty God implanted himself into a young 12 year old girls casts religions in general under suspicious light.........
@@bluerock9238 First, that is not true. The Bible says concerning Mary, "Blessed art thou among WOMEN, not children. Second, Joseph was a character in the story, not the founder, prophet, and "Best example" as Muhammad is to Islam. So for those two reasons, your comparison fails.
@@bluerock9238 it’s better you don’t talk than you utter nonsense… Mary wasn’t 12. Joseph and Muhammed cannot even be compared. Read hadith and see what Muhammed did to young boys,girls and slaves…such a pity😒 Stop saying nonsense!
What’s so crazy about this interview is the angle of compassion with which AP is approaching her. You’ll never see a Muslim Apologist with the same care.
You can say the same thing about Christianity and Budhism and also let's say, Roman empire. It's history. Unless the instructions on how to make a smart phone is in the qoran, your point is pointless sophistry.
@Lorenzo Green why can't you say Arabs and Persians invented them. Why do you bring religion into this point? Those people also had beard but you wouldn't try to defend having a beard with the invention of algebra, would you? Like I said, unless God told muhammed how to build a smartphone; you, sir, don't have a point.
What a shame. This woman has sacrificed her decency for a belief. She knows it is wrong for her child but refuses to condemn the parctice as wrong. Oh well, some French king did it, really?
The thing is, because of the "example" of their prophet, there are still Muslim men who marry children in this day and age. Allah already banned alcohol at that time, but not child marriage.
Lol.. she tried hard to get away, from the fact that Religion makes sane people do evil things. Loved the way you blocked every exit she tried to take.... you were fantastic AP... This is the correct way to deal with people who believe everything on faith.. don't allow them to get away from the fact, Whats wrong is wrong. pedophilia will not be tolerated by any sane parents..
Different time periods?? That's bull...Moses lived years b4 muhammad and many others prophets how come we don't have records of any of them marrying babies. The French King's were not partten of conduct and they were not prophets but muhammad was a "prophet " in his 50's with a wife of 9😝😝😝
Whataboutism is not an argument, lady. I trust that by you exposing the barbaric beliefs of these people, it will help others open their eyes and they'll "stay away from Islam" and every other religion. Great job, AP!
Abu bakr was forced by the “prophet “ to give up his daughter this lady doesn’t know her religion Sahih al-Bukhari 5081 Narrated 'Urwa: The Prophet (ﷺ) asked Abu Bakr for `Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."
You can't stop your neighbours from doing whatever they wanna do, but if you yourself leave islam your muslim neighbours are coming for your headd....🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
the most popular islamic argument about aisha's age is that "it was perfectly normal at the time" well that argument would work out if your faith isn't practiced in today's time! If you support mhmd's actions "at the time" it means you're still ok with them today! so which is it? Because mhmd isn't perfect man of 7th century, he is "perfect man for ALL TIME" Good thing a huge number of muslims are better than their profet, even tho they would deny it!
@@chalsfo well here's the thing, Christians think Jesus is perfect, he had no sl*ves and took no wife, Islam also acknowledge him as sinless but doesn't call him perfect man.that title goes to mhmd who married a 6 year old, had people who insulted him kílléd and also bought, owned and traded blk SL*ves as well ... And he's Muslim perfect man, clearly one of these two religions is at the very least wrong! But both can not be true!!!
@@bibaolaitan5189 true that, when I debate Muslims as an atheist/agnostic they always bring objective morality so I flip it back to them Was it objective or subjective morality that guided mhmd into the bedchambers of a 9 year old? And see how they run away from that
Personal agony sometimes leads to strange decisions. When you are down it's important for you to at least make sure that you are not hurting yourself even more. The lady is trying to avenge for her past by hurting herself by accepting the evil.
This is just so sad. It shows the mindset you have to have to follow a cult. 🙁 She is waiting to die to find out the truth and she doesn't want to challenge it and find out the truth now even though it's right infront of her face.
Regardless of how I feel about this issue, thanks to the both of you for a healthy and respectful debate. I enjoy hearing both sides. I thought classy and respectful debates were a thing of the past on UA-cam. Thank you both for proving me wrong.
I really appreciate the compassion from AP, laced with a robust and firm direction for the conviction of his question. Compelling viewing, great work again AP.
A P ! You were great ! The way you exposed this lady's double standards were phenomenal ! She is saying that it is ok in islam to molest a 6 yr old child but it is not ok to criticise islam for it's wrongs just because Allah sanctions them. This proves that everyone should stay away from ☪️ islam 🤕
AP DOESN'T UNDESTAND SIMPLE LOGIC. Allowing doesn't mean obligating it. You are allowed to eat shrimp, you are NOT obligated to eat it. AP just hates Islam. Period.
I'd like to point out that she's respectful, tries to make her point and never interrupts. And she definitely is thoughtful. Same for him. But unfortunately it is clear that even if she has no argument left and even when she admits that she's out of arguments, she's still trying to deny at least to herself. And that's what makes me sad, it seems like there's no way out, no way to change a mind. Even if it's a person who is actually interested in the discussion and seemingly smart, something blocks the mind. It was hard to watch for me.
@@generaljg4373 No, Islam denies Jesus was crucified it says that Jesus was lifted to Heaven by Allah. Islam's views about Jesus came 600 years after his death.
@@foreignstarz that's right jesus in Islam is a prophet and didn't die that's why hes coming back, but in cristianity hes probably juda the one that died on the cross so that's why I said Cristian god died lol
She looks and thinks like she's 14 yo herself. Also, since when do women get to choose what happens to children in Islam? I thought men make all the rules in Islam.
Ishtar you are a freaking donut xD Know ur history, its the opposite. Islam came to give women Rights... How were women treated before islam? Reasearch that. Women only got rights 50 years ago. We gave them all their rights 1400 years ago.
@@eijstech Islam does talk about the nonbelieving women as what the right hand possesses(possession) and then the Quran says the believing WOMEN ARE DEFICIENT IN INTELLIGENCE AND RELIGION Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the other."(Q. 4:34) Q. 4:11, said: "(The males share is that of two females). Man is more perfect than the woman in creation, and intelligence, and in the religious sphere, such as the suitability to be a judge, and a leader in worship. Also, the testimony of the man is twice that of the woman. So that whoever is given great responsibilities must be given correspondingly great privileges. As the woman is deficient in intelligence and of great lust, if she is given much money, much corruption will be the result. " How is believing women to be substandard to men a blessing
@@ApologeticsAddict It's amusing when the Quran isn't considered evidence. "The institution of marriage in Islam remains very different for men to what it was for women, and the rights accorded to husbands were distinct from those accorded to wives. In fact it is probably not accurate to use the term 'rights of the woman' since a woman under the Islamic system of marriage has no human rights unless we consider that a slave has rights under a slave system. Marriage, in so far as women are concerned, is just like slavery to the slave, or the chains of serfdom to the serf."
AP your great keep it up. I’m Christian and do not agree with everything you say but I LOVE how you are respectful to your guests and make your point so well. I watch Christian videos and on the whole I enjoy them but honestly your such a great guy you loves those around him we need more like you in Christianity. Again thank you AP 🙏
The fact that a person who herself was abused to justify child marriage, tells you all you need to know about Islam. You can never criticize the prophet, smh.
This lady is DISGUSTING. She said she will not allow any man to marry her 6 years old child but she responded to my comment on her channel by saying " *Concubines/slaves/captives are halal* (in Islam) " She speaks one thing to the non-muslim audience and the opposite to her Muslim audience
It still amazes me that sex between two consenting but unmarried people is a deadly sin, but rape of a little child is admired. Absolutely mind blowing.
Go back your country
UK King's in 10th country
no there is evidence for this
@@aabdullah2996 of what? The prophet at age 53 forcing himself into the tiny body of a 9 year old child?
@@englishlessonswithtracy1488
Do you think that the body of a caveman now is the same as a human body?
Circumstances differ, culture differs, and the passage of time changes
@@aabdullah2996 whatever helps you sleep at night.
This young woman is broken and using Islam as a cope of what happened to her in her childhood 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Yes! She escaped to Islam. Some Christian or Atheists probably hurt her.
She's entered in a world of lies and deceitfulness, it's a sick cult
You have to undergo brainwashing again
Why islam to the world??
Ok
"We are not allowed to criticize "the Prophet" in that way.". The first sign you are in a cult: you cannot question the cult founder.
Exactly.
The cult founder is given esteemed status.
The esteem is continually reinforced. Even reinforced to the point if having to relentlessly esteem the cult founder in every reference.
The cult founder, (peace be upon him) is the focus of complete obedience.
No one here would dare challenge me on the issue. Maybe Apostare P will, can someone arrange for him to discuss with me?
@@abdullahk8691 everyone challenged you and already beat you, including me You just wont accept defeat and keep posting nonsense
@@otakoob beat me by making up some numbers? Read the comments! 😂
I'm an historian, you can't make up numbers and fool me!
@@abdullahk8691 Read more, historian. I already gave you some
“The french kings married 14 year olds”
Ma’am, the french kings were not claiming to be prophets of God, the best of mankind nor were they claiming to be receiving revelations from an all knowing God.
Thank you.
@@Neko.Virtual Loads of serial killers, cult leaders and rapists claimed they were divinely guided.
The Quran however makes a few special claims for it self. That it’s the last message to humanity, that Muhammad is the best of creation, that he must be obeyed and that he’s the last prophet. Pretty big claims and indoctrinated into young kids from the get go. We can look at those french kings and say they were wrong, and yet there are millions of people willing to die and kill for Mo and even worse, emulate his behaviour.
@@Neko.Virtual Good people are not child raping war criminals. Islam brought barbarism and decay wherever it went back then, and wherever it goes now. It's holy text is more nonsensical and vile than any that had come before it. We have nothing to learn from Islam and it's degenerate prophet.
Go lay down and think about here and now. Take a break from shilling for a sex addict warlord of the 7th century.
@@Neko.Virtual a chaste peacelord? Hahaha
@@Neko.Virtual no thanks. I feel myself getting stupider with each verse.
@@Neko.Virtual LOL Mohamed used God to justify his evil deeds. He used God to marry Aysha. He used God to mary Zeinab, he used God to attack christians and jews, he used God to kill the jews , he used God for all the evil he has done. He motivate his soldiers to attack christians and jews to take their wifes and children as slaves and their properties, he used God to catch spoils of war .
Quran 8:1 THEY WILL ASK thee about the spoils of war. Say: "All spoils of war belong to God and the Apostle." Remain, then, conscious of God, and keep alive the bonds of brotherhood among yourselves, and pay heed unto God and His Apostle, if you are [truly] believers
What a dirty religion.
The level of denial here is surreal.
It is NOT ok even when parents agree, because, IT IS THE CHILD HEALTH & RIGHTS to BE HONORED & NOT the Pedophile & The Unethical Parents in a Sexual Cult
@@williamgarayua5878 not everyone is a pedophile so it's ok
Im a child dont speak for us we speak for ourselves
@@terrorgaming459 you can't even speak for yourself.
@@LisaAnn777 you're technically right if you're islam
It kills me because she sounds like an intelligent woman, both intellectually and emotionally. I pray she finds her way.
Bruh.. she dumb af🤣
We have child protective services in the United States. If you see or suspect abuse sexual or any kind, it is required that you report it, or you can be charged as an accomplice.
If any pervert touches a child and I'm around, it won't end well for him.
You must report the Bible
Slavery and Peverted mindful
@@aabdullah2996 Mohamad is in hell. The Bible is fine as it is.
@@aabdullah2996 lol give us a verse from the NT 😁
@@aabdullah2996 how many slaves did jesus have? Your mohammed was a champion of slave trade.
Tell anytime Jesus killed anyone? Your Mohammed was a terrible killer.
Stop the nonsense. Compare Jesus and Mohammed. Period
Till today, arabic countries still trade africans as slaves, and countries like UAE, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Oman and other have law supporting it. Mention any Western country still supporting slave trade?
@@宇原家 Matt 18:6 " “If anyone causes one of these little ones-those who believe in me-to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea"
Mo (c.p.b.u.h) hurt many many young children, starting from Aisha. We hope he enjoys his sleep with the fishes.
When she said we cannot critique Muhammad. I remembered an old quote. 'The greatest achievement of religion is not convincing people that there is a God but convincing people that we cannot think against it.'
true
Religion is natural to mankind across different civilizations, tribes, etc. Which means, people are naturally convinced. And so what usually happens is that people need someone attempting to convince them against what they naturally believe in order to leave that belief.
@@lynb.3040what? What exactly do humans “naturally believe”?
@MyoYoneda some set of transcendent values that may or not vary in some aspects, from place to place, accompanied by practices that attempt to stabilish connections with the divine, however it is perceived in each society at their basis, along with a sense of the Sacred.
She is really in conflict with herself. Poor soul
Definitley is, it kinda sucks, but basically all religious people are in conflict with self, but Muslims girls to me def are in a ton of conflict with themselfs as they should a lot of them are getting oppressed either willingly or unwillingly. Apostate Prophet makes great points and observations, I hope some listen. God and Allah has there reasons, gimmie a break.
Here is my take on the video: ua-cam.com/video/UzpGnWQzerg/v-deo.html
@@jameson95x Yes!!! Alot of women are oppressed in the nightclubs, brothels, strip clubs, lads mags, billboards. And all you can say is Muslim women are oppressed being married.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@livinia296 Lol no kidding though
@@livinia296
How about women being jailed for not wearing veils?
Visit iran and afghan to see such women.
Btw your whataboutism is so charming 😄
She doesn't understand the difference between personal choice and public law.
Islamic law is public law that claims that it is optimal and final.
So what are you saying, is that good or bad?
@@priortokaraew7569
Islamic law is bad %100 as the case with all religious laws.
Religion should be a private matter that doesn't effect even one's own children, children are citizens and have rights. In her twisted mind children are property.
@@3aZM
Bro hope you are in a librel country
@@3aZM u r talking nonsense i can tell..so u r saying institutional law is better lol no wonder there are rapist, muderer ,school shooter everywhere..cant even tell wether cops is good or bad nowdays lol
@@namirae5488
Einstein, your argument is so stupid I don't know where to start.
I feel bad for the woman, she’s obviously had a rough life , which then subjected her to psychological damage making her vulnerable to Islam. We need to deal with people like these with compassion and help them out of it. She even admits her double standards.
At first I felt bad for her, but even after being abused, she still supports child marriage. Evil.
Hugh Hefner double standards
@@habnormal7283 how islam corrupt common sense
We must not be silent !!! TOO SEXUAL VIOLENCE in the KORAN against CHILDREN !!
Fornication is forbidden according to the Bible! In all situations it is FORBIDDEN !!
******But in the Koran fornication is allowed !! Even with children !!**
Here everything is allowed for SEXUAL satisfaction! Possession of your right hand = SLAVE !!
Sura 4,3 And if you fear that you will not be righteous towards the orphans, marry whatever is good for you in women, two, three or four; and if you fear not being cheap, (marry) one or something in your right hand (hand is = SLAVES also CHILDREN). This is the best way to avoid injustice.
Allah allows fornication with slaves !! = rape of children is included !!
Disgusting what Islam implies to God!
She's depraved. She's willing to overlook pedophilia in Islam.
"I was molested...I would never let my daughter...it's different for Muhammad" 🤦
The videos on the playlist on my channel might interest you..
@@Younis1446 I've already watched videos of the mentally ill and weak being indoctrinated into your cult. But thank you 😘
@@shinobi-no-bueno Muhammad inserted slowly...should be fine
@Nathan Nitai Das Nothing Muslims shift the subject when they are questioned
@@oggypilestro6343 Typical of em'
This man has great compassion, kindness and conviction in his arguments... a true gem of a human
Nope, sorry. AP DOESN'T UNDESTAND SIMPLE LOGIC. Allowing doesn't mean obligating it. You are allowed to eat shrimp, you are NOT obligated to eat it. AP just hates Islam. Period.
@@diarimachan allowing it is weird
@@diarimachan brooo
@@diarimachanjust the fact that it is allowed to a 9y old hitting puberty can marry a 60y old is wild,it’s not about being obligated or not,just the fact that is allowed is scary
@@diarimachanit seems like you are the one who does not understand anything.
His whole point is that, she is part of a belief system that ‘allows’ child marriage. The system makes it ‘permissible’. The system says it’s ‘ok’ to do it… and that is a wrong system.
Understood?
The cognitive dissonance is so real in this conversation
ua-cam.com/video/uivq1hvW3i0/v-deo.html
Nothing real
@@AhmedAl-Haddadi Idiot abdool
@@AhmedAl-Haddadi Ew
Yeah! She can't even accept or deny it.
@@সত্যেরঅনুসন্ধানে-র৮ফ
Go back godsss and 160000 girls
She argues like a civilized person,which is good.Her arguements on child marriage are somewhat inconsistent.Child marriage is bad all round,should be condemded,no matter who does it.
@Thomas I think it's Ireland. Italy has red
@Thomas Irish
Don't you notice when composing here that your sentences are mis-constructed? A space always follows commas, y'all!
@@jamesb.9155 Maybe" Did'nt you notice may be a better
Expression
I am from Alabama & Christian and I am definitely not for child marriage! So don’t classify me in such a group that do such actions.
No one can accuse a Christian of that, for sure. The topic is the so called Islam religion which turns a blind eye to this issue. I reject all religions but if I had to choose one I'll choose early Protestantism
Also that Jewish thing. That called a Mohel who does that. You can be Jewish and not call a Mohel EVER. The actual practice of Bris has been altered enough over time that im okay with letting that one go. I dont want to know what kind of guy becomes a Mohel.
@Lorenzo Green What are you talking about?
Idk why but my mind read “Alabama” as “Albania” lol
@Lorenzo Green “…she was found to be with child child from the Holy Spirit.” So she was conceived through the Holy Spirit?
She won't allow it, but it's not up to her, she must obey her husband's wishes
I was thinking the same. It's not at all her choice. Her husband say first and if he plans on marrying off their kid then she have to obey the husband obviously. ITS THE MOST WISE RELIGION 😭
Yep, you can imagine seeing her on the news when she shoots her husband because his rules and her self-defense attitude butted heads.
@@ImCarolB
And under shaaria she would be executed for harming her husband
Yup poor woman she is in a muck , a tar pool slowly eating her up. Cause every inch of her move will just push her even more quickly into her demise.
Exactly. In Islam, Muslim men have authority over girls and women.
Justifying cruelty by comparing and justifying by other cruelty is a real dogmatic crap and illogical, double-standard and hypocrisy.
Xtians , jews do not condem their prophets and religious people for doing that for centuries, the point is only “what are the conditions for marriage in these religions and the minmum age if there wer any
@@backfire4468 Huh?
AP genuinely trying to help her but she's not ready to hear it.
Don't underestimate the addictive power of the *Holy Dopamine Ghost* via Placebo Faith.
😇🧠👻=🙏👉🧠👉🤪
@@bleirdo_dude miracle of allah
@@existence.5806 Why is the sky blue? The Old Testament answers this 1,000s of years before modern science.
Genesis (NRSV)
1:6a "And God said, “Let there be a dome in the midst of the waters,"
1:6b "let it separate the waters from the waters."
1:7 "So God made the dome and separated the waters that were under the dome from the waters that were above the dome. And it was so."
1:14a "And God said, “Let there be lights in the dome of the sky"
7:11d "...and the windows of the heavens were opened."
8:2bc "the windows of the heavens were closed, the rain from the heavens was restrained,"
Psalm 148:4-6 "Praise him, you highest heavens, and you waters above the heavens! Let them praise the name of the LORD, for he commanded and they were created. He established them forever and ever; he fixed their bounds, which cannot be passed."
Proverbs 8:28-29 "when he made firm the skies above, when he established the fountains of the deep, when he assigned to the sea its limit, so that the waters might not transgress his command, when he marked out the foundations of the earth,"
Job 22:12, :14c “Is not God high in the heavens? See the highest stars, how lofty they are!" "...and he walks on the dome of heaven.’"
Job 37:18 "Can you, like him, spread out the skies, hard as a molten mirror?"
Isa. 24:18b "For the windows of heaven are opened, and the foundations of the earth tremble."
"Finally, it is worth pointing out that the world picture of the Jewish people, as reconstructed from various passages in the Bible, was essentially the same as that of the Egyptians and the Babylonians. ...The flat, disc-shaped Earth is surrounded by a sea; beneath the Earth, there are wells and fountains connected with the upper part of the Earth as well as with the great deep, called Tehom. The Earth rests on pillars, and above it is the sky or firmament. Waters are to be found not only on the Earth or beneath it, but also above the firmament."
Helge S. Kragh, Conception of Cosmos, pp. 10
So the sky is blue because a massive molten glass dome holds up an ocean. Also the reason why when looking over the ocean the dark blue does not mix with the light blue all due to an unpassable barrier. Who knew but the Lord.
Even though the Quran mentions terrestrial salt and fresh water seas, there's references though vague are reminiscent of the OT's cosmology (perhaps a vestige of the OT).
Quran Pickthal/The Clear Quran
(PICKT) 21.032 "And we have made the sky a roof withheld (from them). Yet they turn away from its portents."
(TCQ) 21.32 "And We have made the sky a well-protected canopy, still they turn away from its signs."
(PICKT) 25.053 "And He it is Who hath given independence to the two seas (though they meet); one palatable, sweet, and the other saltish, bitter; and hath set a bar and a forbidding ban between them."
(TCQ) 25.53 "And He is the One Who merges the two bodies of water: one fresh and palatable and the other salty and bitter, placing between them a barrier they cannot cross."
(PICKT) 27.061 "Is not He (best) Who made the earth a fixed abode, and placed rivers in the folds thereof, and placed firm hills therein, and hath set a barrier between the two seas? Is there any God beside Allah ? Nay, but most of them know not!"
(TCQ) 27.61 "Or [ask them,] “Who made the earth a place of settlement, caused rivers to flow through it, placed firm mountains upon it, and set a barrier between [fresh and salt] bodies of water? Was it another god besides God?” Absolutely not! But most of them do not know."
(PICKT) 55.019-020 "He hath loosed the two seas. They meet. There is a barrier between them. They encroach not (one upon the other)."
(TCQ) 55.19-.20 "He merges the two bodies of [fresh and salt] water, yet between them is a barrier they never cross."
@@bleirdo_dude interesting, i might have to look deeper on these, thanks
Three reasons why one (not relying on faith) should be agnostic about the claim "Jesus certainly existed".
1) The Gospels/Acts are overflowing with signs of literary fabrication.
"Those who want to find a historical record in Mark face an even greater obstacle than the ambiguous evidence for Mark's literary borrowing of non-Jesus material to create Jesus stories. This obstacle is the fact that if Jesus' earthly ministry actually happened as Mark portrays it, the history of Paul's Gentile mission and the opposition it encountered would be incomprehensible. How could it be that neither Paul nor anyone who worked with him, nor his opponents, knew about Jesus' determined endorsement of a mixed community sharing table fellowship together? How is it that everyone somehow forgot that Jesus explicitly "declared all foods clean (7:19)"? In the pitched battles Paul waged against his Judaizing opponents in his epistles, any one of the many stories about Jesus' conflicts over Law observance would have been devastating evidence of the rightness of Paul's side, yet none are ever mentioned."
Tom Dykstra, Mark, Canonizer of Paul, pp. 229-230
"A raft of scholars, including Randel Helms, Thomas L. Brodie, John Dominic Crossan and others, have shown again and again how this and that Gospel passage likely originated as a Christian rewrite of this or that Old Testament passage."
Thomas L Thompson, Is This Not the Carpenter, pp. 113-114
"Yet, regardless of the difficulty, comparing Luke-Acts and Mark with this verifiable literary antecedent is worthwhile. A key reason is simple: in looking for a literary precedent to the Gospels there is no verifiable pre-Christian text which comes as close to any gospel as the Elijah-Elisha narrative does to Luke-Acts and Mark."
Thomas Brodie, The Crucial Bridge, pp. 97
"While issues with the gospels are certainly not enough to rule out the possibility that there was a historical Jesus behind the gospel story, it also cannot be said with certainty that there must have been one. The lack of primary sources and the problems with the Gospel stories alone, would seemingly justify having some doubt."
Raphael Lataster, Jesus Did Not Exist, Sources: We All Know They're Rubbish - pp. 35/73
"The use of cycles, parallels, repetitions, melodramatic characterization, stereotyped scene construction, inventing or presenting stories that replicate biblical narrative, unbalanced narrative with evident symbolic import, and a balanced structure-all these raise insurmountable objections. History cannot be quite so symmetrical. In addition there are any number of historical problems."
Richard Pervo, The Mystery of Acts, pp. 151
Note: Nowhere in Acts do the authorities show concern that Jesus escaped justice.
"Despite scholarly efforts to detect an underlying Aramaic original for Mark or Matthew, it is probable that all the evangelists wrote in the common (koinē) Greek of their day. Further, the vast majority of Hebrew Bible citations in the New Testament are taken from the Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible (the Septuagint)."
"Large sections of Matthew, Mark, and Luke repeat stories about and sayings of Jesus in nearly identical words. Hence these three Gospels are referred to as the “Synoptic” Gospels. On a linguistic level, both Luke and Matthew improve on Mark’s style, smoothing out inelegant expressions and repetitions. Luke eliminates Mark’s characteristic use of parataxis (one short phrase following another without indicating how they are related) by employing balancing particles and subordinate clauses. Matthew follows Mark’s outline, though the insertion of considerable sections of discourse material may obscure that relationship for the casual reader. Luke knows most of Mark but has no parallels to Mk 6:45-8:26; whether Luke chose to omit this section or had a different version of Mark remains unclear. Detailed analysis of the traditions shared by Matthew, Mark, and Luke provides strong support for the view that Mark provided the template that Matthew and Luke revised, both correcting and smoothing out its language and expanding the Jesus material it contained."
"While the Synoptic Gospels have a close literary relationship, the Fourth Gospel, the Gospel of John, presents a much greater puzzle. Its chronology of Jesus’s ministry differs from that of the Synoptics. In John, Jesus spends three years preaching, during which he journeys between Galilee and Jerusalem; in the Synoptic Gospels, he visits Jerusalem only once, at the end of a ministry that apparently lasted less than a year."
The New Oxford Annotated Bible NRSV, pp. 1380-1381
2) The earliest Xtian writings (Pauline Epistles) are odd when looked at closely. Paul is adamant that his Gospel is not from humans, but from scripture, and visions/dreams (Gal. 1:11-18, Rom. 15:4, 1 Cor. 15:3-8). A secret hidden through the ages now revealed (Rom. 16:25-26, 1 Cor. 2:6-7). Also Paul says his apostleship is by the same means as the founding Pillars (Gal. 2:6-8). Paul's preexisting being was killed for looking like a human (Phili. 2:7), and his killers would not have killed him if they knew it was God's secret plan for mankind's salvation (1 Cor. 2:6-8). This makes more sense when looking at the Joshua/Jesus in the OT who tricks Satan and is exalted by God. Note that these verses have what can be perceived as symbolisms for flesh (dirty clothes= sinful flesh & Five Kings= Five Senses that enslaves one to sin). So Zech. 3:1-9, 6:11-13, & Jos. 10:22-27 together symbolically has a Jesus in a flesh disguise getting hung in a tree, shoved into a tomb, and exalted by God to remove guilt of the land.
Zechariah 3:1-9
"1 Then he showed me the high priest Joshua (Savior) standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan (Adversary) standing at his right hand to accuse him. 2 And the LORD said to Satan, "The LORD rebuke you, O Satan! The LORD who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Is not this man a brand plucked from the fire?" 3 Now Joshua was dressed with filthy clothes as he stood before the angel. 4 The angel said to those who were standing before him, "Take off his filthy clothes." And to him he said, "See, I have taken your guilt away from you, and I will clothe you with festal apparel." 5 And I said, "Let them put a clean turban on his head." So they put a clean turban on his head and clothed him with the apparel; and the angel of the LORD was standing by.
6 Then the angel of the LORD assured Joshua, saying 7 "Thus says the LORD of hosts: If you will walk in my ways and keep my requirements, then you shall rule my house and have charge of my courts, and I will give you the right of access among those who are standing here. 8 Now listen, Joshua, high priest, you and your colleagues who sit before you! For they are an omen of things to come: I am going to bring my servant the Branch. 9 For on the stone that I have set before Joshua, on a single stone with seven facets, I will engrave its inscription, says the LORD of hosts, and I will remove the guilt of this land in a single day."
Zechariah 6:11-13
11 Take the silver and gold and make a crown, and set it on the head of the high priest Joshua son of Jehozadak (Savior Son of the Righteous God); 12 say to him: Thus says the LORD of hosts: Here is a man whose name is Branch: for he shall branch out in his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD. 13 It is he that shall build the temple of the LORD; he shall bear royal honor, and shall sit upon his throne and rule. There shall be a priest by his throne, with peaceful understanding between the two of them."
Joshua 10:22-27
"22 Then Joshua (Savior) said, "Open the mouth of the cave, and bring those five kings out to me from the cave." 23 They did so, and brought the five kings out to him from the cave, the king of Jerusalem, the king of Hebron, the king of Jarmuth, the king of Lachish, and the king of Eglon. 24 When they brought the kings out to Joshua, Joshua summoned all the Israelites, and said to the chiefs of the warriors who had gone with him, "Come near, put your feet on the necks of these kings." Then they came near and put their feet on their necks. (see Psa. 110:1/Heb. 10:13) 25 And Joshua said to them, "Do not be afraid or dismayed; be strong and courageous; for thus the LORD will do to all the enemies against whom you fight." 26 Afterward Joshua struck them down and put them to death, and he hung them on five trees. And they hung on the trees until evening. 27 At sunset Joshua commanded, and they took them down from the trees and threw them into the cave where they had hidden themselves; they set large stones against the mouth of the cave, which remain to this very day. (see also Deut. 21:22-23/Gal. 3:13)"
3) Verses held up as undeniable evidences for an historical Jesus have plausible alternative explanations. The verse Gal. 4:4b "God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under the law," looks to have Jesus born of a woman, and is Jewish. But what Paul could mean is that "woman/law" is Divine Wisdom (Greek Sophia personified feminine wisdom/see Prov. 3:13-20, 8:1-36, Baruch 3:37, 4:1) in that Jesus was made all knowing unlike Adam. The verse Gal. 1:19 "but I did not see any other apostle except James the LORD's brother." is seen as a slam dunk for historicity. But Paul's theology is of spiritual kinship (Gal. 4:5-7) and everyone in Christ are brothers/sisters. Paul makes no distinction that this James is blood related to Jesus, and maybe "Lord's brother" is a cultic title? The verse Rom. 1:3b "who was descended from David according to the flesh" (2 Sam. 7:12) is good evidence for historicity. But 2 Sam. 7:12c "who shall come forth from your body," can mean God made a flesh body from David's semen for Jesus (it was a belief that the male seed contained the whole body). This is a convenient way to fulfill messianic prophecy for a celestial event instead of on Earth.
Poor woman. Deluded and blinded by an evil ideology. She also exhibits that classic Islamic characteristic of avoiding the question.
The discussion was really sensitively handled too. Well done A.P. 👏
Apostate
Prophet is joke
AP DOESN'T UNDESTAND SIMPLE LOGIC. Allowing doesn't mean obligating it. You are allowed to eat shrimp, you are NOT obligated to eat it. AP just hates Islam. Period.
@@diarimachan you should ask Ridvan if he hates Islam.
@@diarimachan well done genius ☠️
@@diarimachanany sane logical person would hate this despicable ideology
"X historical figure did it too!" Yes, and that was BAD, we don't allow murder just because a famous person did it, we call it out for whoever did it. Girl is really grasping at straws here, that's how desperate she is to defend something indefensible.
Here is my take on what she says: ua-cam.com/video/UzpGnWQzerg/v-deo.html
Whataboutism lol that defeats the whole statement Islam is perfect Allah is All knowing and Muhammad is perfect
@@darlinger2838 very perfect indeed that one stupid verse that says:when sheytan farts it causes calamities so perfect indeed muhhamad ordered his fellow Muslims to shame jews and Christians when they come across to each other
@@darlinger2838 very perfect indeed that one stupid verse that says:when sheytan farts it causes calamities so perfect indeed muhhamad ordered his fellow Muslims to shame jews and Christians when they come across to each other
Allah is all knowing indeed but no one knows who controlled muhhamad that time was it Allah or sheytan? Very perfect indeed the power of interpretation
AP, you are a true gentleman. You handled this poor misguided woman with appropriate gentleness, while at the same time not compromising truth. Well done, sir.
she doesn't need Islam, she needs a real therapist
I watched the full live discussion, it was a disaster for the lady, and AP was patient all through, though he was obviously disgusted. May God help the lady and deliver her from her hypocrisy
So why don't you arrange for me to talk to AP? Then talk to me after. He's just bullying a poor kind woman who is falling for his tricks. Go on arrange a discussion!
@@abdullahk8691 who has Ur time? Or U think I don't know who you are?
@@da698 I don't care if you know me or not. AP received a good kicking from Daniel H, did you watch that?
@@abdullahk8691 I do care about how I spend my precious time. May God the Father deliver Ur soul from hell. May the peace of Christ be with U. Take care
@@da698 lol I've been debating with Christians here for two days. Over 90% of people making comments here and following AP are Christian. Most are masquerading behind western liberal imperialism! 😂😂😂😂
She keeps saying she wouldn’t allow it not realizing that in an Islamic state or even an Islamic marriage, she has ZERO say in allowing or preventing anything, since she is a female
"the best we can do is just not allow our daughters to go in to it because they're not gonna be the wife of a prophet."
so its okay as long as your young daughter is getting married to a prophet? what kinda logic is that?
By stating the “the best we can do “ means she is in disagreement with it and is looking for a way not to comply.
Her excuses go on and on. It’s so sad.
She doesn't know what she's saying
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I admire this woman`s honesty and inytrgrity. She is far more honest than a "typical" Muslim.
That's because she wasn't born into islam. She merely adopted it hence that honesty
Exactly, she didn't receive the decades of taqiyyah training most Muslims grow up with
Can you give specific examples of Muslims on UA-cam not being honest? Do you think followers of the Jewish or Christian faiths are more honest than Muslims(if so, then why?)✌🏽
She is not honest in any well
8:46 a perfect example of her Dishonesty actually
Their excuse is:
-It was done by others in the past:
This cannot justify it cause we learned that it was wrong,that what people did before was bad, we learned many thing in the past was bad. Slavery etc forced marriage, racism, human evolve and not that you accuse someone that did it too, that your action became pure
-It is Allah's choice so it have a reason that we might not know:
If we go like this every beliefs are pure and every actions too, let say killing people is a thing in a religion and the explanation of it is: God want it and he gave reason that we don't know, then this religion doesn't make sense, the messenger can just do anything!
bible is the same shit too
All believers are hypocrites in same way shape or form; all humans are, the issue is some of us acknowledge this and some of us think a magic space man controls everything everywhere
The Quran says killing an innocent person is like killing all of humanity✌🏽
@@ApologeticsAddict what about apostates who just want to leave without any problem, or lgbt people, are they not innocent ?
@@existence.5806 I don't think I understand what you are getting at. I'm pretty sure they are allowed to leave the country if they want under the Shariah.
God, did she just say she has full authority over her daughter?! Children are human beings too and just because you're a parent, doesn't mean you can just 'give off' your child in marriage to a 50 something guy?!
In Malaysia, for a 50 something guy to screw a 9 year old is punishable by law. It is a Muslim country. 20 years jail plus whipping.
@@misterbig9025 So as a muslim, do you think mohammed deserved 20 years jail plus whipping?
she means authority to stop bad things happen yo her child. CAREFULLY LISTEN!
@@diarimachan exactly.She was a really sweet lady and seems to care about her daughter indeed. My heart goes to her❤🔥
4:39 "each mother can just say no"
No. Each mother CANNOT say 'no'. In islam, it is the man of the family who makes such decisions. If a mother would object to that, she would get beaten up to be put in her place.
This woman doesnt know what she is talking about.
I truly admire the way AP presents his arguments.
And how sympathetic and gentle he was with this girl, clearly an upstanding and moral human being who is having great difficulty in dealing with some very uncomfortable truths about her prophet.
@@HairyMunci how could you believe in mortality when your an atheist
@@larvalous614 if you are referring to AP yes he is an atheist. But that doesn’t mean he has no morals.
AP doesn’t analyze things from multiple different angles. The question he asked is nothing knew. These questions have been answered by Islamic scholars but haters like AP have their own agenda. Peace ✌️
@@seekknowledge2010 there’s nothing to analyze. It’s a simple question - did she condone the mohamed marrying a 6 year old girl and violating her at just 9 years old. She wouldn’t allow her daughter to marry a 50 plus man but she couldn’t condemn Mohamed. It’s a dilemma for her but not for non Muslims
AP you conducted this interview sensitively and brilliantly on a very difficult subject.
She contradicts herself with every justification of the practice. "Oh but mediaeval king's married 12 and 14 year old girls..." Yes that may well be the case but that was in the middle ages and western society evolved, Islam is the only society that hasn't evolved with regard to child marriage, or slavery for that matter.
It was also interesting to note that her only prerequisites for allowing her daughter to be married off were being mentally capable (SSO does that mean once the girl learns and accepts that she has to be married off soon after having her first period?) and once she's had her period. No mention of she should be an adult or at least close to adulthood. What is this woman's definition of mentally mature? Because I'm certain that she isn't even mentally capable. She comes from a family of intergenerational child abuse, then joins the allow religion in the world that actively encourages child abuse.
Islam hasn't evolved with respect to everything!
More importantly no one has held up those kings as role models for all mankind - and the best person to have ever lived. No one idolizes them as much as muslims idolize mohammad.
We must not be silent !!! TOO SEXUAL VIOLENCE in the KORAN against CHILDREN !!
Fornication is forbidden according to the Bible! In all situations it is FORBIDDEN !!
*******But in the Koran fornication is allowed !! Even with children !!***
Here everything is allowed for SEXUAL satisfaction! Possession of your right hand = SLAVE !!
Sura 4,3 And if you fear that you will not be righteous towards the orphans, marry whatever is good for you in women, two, three or four; and if you fear not being cheap, (marry) one or something in your right hand (hand is = SLAVES also CHILDREN). This is the best way to avoid injustice.
Allah allows fornication with slaves !! = rape of children is included !!
Disgusting what Islam implies to God!
@@petemiller9404 Not necessarily. Minang Muslim women got more inheritance than men
There 55k child girl marry yearly in 29 states in the US, you can google that
In America, if someone tries to marry their child off to an adult, you can absolutely call the cops on them. Absolutely. It is believed that the incident in Waco was started over that... very... thing.
I mean that's true...just like a lot of other countries though, lol. Even ones in the Middle-East. What's your point? I was born and raised in America and in the south there are still REALLY low ages to get married and the age of consent(without parental approval) is also really low in most southern states
You might be able to fool non-American viewers but you can't fool a fellow American✌🏼. We also have a lot of shitty places like Las Vegas and Hollywood where females are essentially sold into sex slavery.
@@ApologeticsAddict We captured some of the women as captives, and the long separation from our wives was pressing us hard and we wanted to release sperms outside of the women. We asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) (whether it was permissible). He said, "It is better for you to release sperms inside. No soul, (that which Allah has) destined to exist, up to the Day of Resurrection, but will definitely come, into existence."
Sahih al-Bukhari 2542
@@ApologeticsAddict Yeah, like in Texas the age is _16,_ but what's _your_ point, other than being rude? She literally said that you can't do anything about it if someone married their 6-year-old off to a 50-something-year-old man. I said, "yes, you can." If you didn't hear that argument, you might need to open your ears a bit.
@@ApologeticsAddict Does that also mean that Mo was a hypersexualized retard and criminal who committed the same atrocities, except where sane people condemn criminals and their crimes, Abdools worship one?
Weren’t the children burned or shot to death by the feds in Waco?
AP, I'm very impressed by your ability to convey your points. You were really sharp and quick to point out discrepancies, and it's clear that you were coming from a place of empathy and respect for this woman. Like AP said at the end, I also think she has a conflicted belief and it's made obvious when she's confronted with a difficult question.
She does not want any sympathy, she wants to respect her religion
@@AhmedAl-Haddadi maybe read my comment again and ask yourself if you understand basic reading comprehension?
Arguing like a civilized person while justifying monstrous and absurd things like child marriage just shows how perverse this woman is. The norms of politeness are not above the truth and the defense of the innocent. No wonder this wicked woman adhered to Islam.
Please don't judge her. You havent walked a mile in her shoes. You'd be amazed at the veil of covering that makes people lack basic understanding. I live in a country where millions of women don't even have a voice, you'd be amazed at the level of confusion in their minds. She sounds civilized,but does she sound like someone free from the horror of her childhood? Absolutely not! She's tied to the very thing that messed her up. Who supports a system that defiled and traumatized them? Pity her,don't judge her.
All meanwhile Apostate Prophet supports incest, right?
@@Haddasahssecret It's not about 'judging' her; it's about her erroneous thinking. Don't you see, she's not condemning others for abusing kids? This upsets me. So she was abused as a child and says: It's OK that others do it, I just wouldn't! I condemn the actions of who molests little kids by giving them in marriage at such a young tender age. Evil should be condemned. Just want her to Condemn evil and not excuse it; something missing in her thinking! Walking a mile in her shoes, has nothing to do with condemning evil!!
there is nothing monstrous or absurd in Islam unless you don't understand it
@@Haddasahssecret Wanda W is absolutely right here. You are sympathizing for an evil woman.
06:51 "the best we can do is not allow our daughters to get into it, because they will not going to be the wives of a prophet". This way of thinking is pure evil. So she is against child rape, but just as long as the rapist is not a prophet, as long as the rapist is not a person of power. Basically, as long as someone is the cult leader, she will give her daughter to be raped. That's why the Hand Maiden's Tale is actually a reality for many muslim women.
Rap?
What is proof??????
that took me a second to adjust to too! it seemed to me like she was saying as long as it is a prophet, child marriage is okay. like what the heck??
@@aabdullah2996 its child abuse rather than rape
She is totally Autoritätshörig and Mohammed is her highest authority.
Irony is ..... a prophet is not supposed to be a paedophile... anyone can claim to be a prophet and say "now give me your daughtr, it's my birth right"
Islam isn't just wrong, it's downright repulsive.
Its EVIL.
Honestly - this was exactly how I viewed Islam as a woman when I was still a believer. I thought Allah was an asshole, but as our creator we must obey. Eventually I got out, not because I had enough of the unfairness, but because I'm a scientist now by training and could not overlook the mistakes about the natural world littered throughout the Qu'ran.
I think (or maybe just hope) that Milahan gets out one day. It's a patriarchal system that cloaks its justification for abuse in prophetic language and keeps you following with literal, actual psychological trauma - the persistent fear of damnation. This woman has survived so much, I think it'd be a real shame if she spent the rest of her days under the yoke of a system that doesn't give a shit about her.
@Nadje Najar. I'm glad you got out. According to some Muslims, the Koran has so much "scientific evidence" that Scientists are converting to Islam. That's how so utterly deluded these people are.
I think the quickest way to become an atheist is to take a course on astronomy. The sheer size of the universe is mind boggling.
Well said. 👌👏
This must end! horrible
If you cannot see that killing people if they don't believe what you believe is evil, mentally emotionally you are not all there
Cult members man.. go figure..
i mean atleast johnes town solved them self's i think its time for some islamic kool-aid .. why wait to meet mohound.
if it was evil then god wouldn't tell you to do it
@@Neko.Virtual are you joking
@@chanellee9762 can't you tell
Are you sad?? Had a bad day??? Wanna have fun??? Listen to muslims apologetics explaining islam. Hilarious stuff.
This video should be linked on the Wikipedia article on cognitive dissonance as a prime example of it.
I believe she may later come to the conclusion that one Muslim who debated David Wood said "I can no longer defend Muhammad. He was a terrible person." I don't remember his name but he was a young man who tried to defend Islam for years.
Which video ?
This is what make"s us ( non muslims ) very difficult to believe God could choose a Men to deliver his most Holiest message and that men did not have Ideal Ethical Lifestyle ( If any one can rationalise Old man marrying a 6 Year Child its simply out of Cognitive Dissonance not due to Rationality )..
Great Job AP......
We can conclude that
the The Prophet was a Copycat that copied Joseph and Mary with child marriage......
Also how The Almighty God implanted himself into a young 12 year old girls casts religions in general under suspicious light.........
According to christianity and early churches marry married at 11 Lol also theres slavery in the bible according to the bible its ok which is disturbing
@@generaljg4373 The "slavery" thing has been gone over ad infinitum. Look into it, answers are there. I've read that Mary was probably 14.
We must not be silent !!! TOO SEXUAL VIOLENCE in the KORAN against CHILDREN !!
Fornication is forbidden according to the Bible! In all situations it is FORBIDDEN !!
*******But in the Koran fornication is allowed !! Even with children !!***
Here everything is allowed for SEXUAL satisfaction! Possession of your right hand = SLAVE !!
Sura 4,3 And if you fear that you will not be righteous towards the orphans, marry whatever is good for you in women, two, three or four; and if you fear not being cheap, (marry) one or something in your right hand (hand is = SLAVES also CHILDREN). This is the best way to avoid injustice.
Allah allows fornication with slaves !! = rape of children is included !!
Disgusting what Islam implies to God!
@@curiousgeorge555 slavery in the bible was just curruption by a slave owner to justify it it's not from god, the bible is corrupt
She buries her head in the sand by saying, "I choose not to do that", as if it shields her from having to hold Islam accountable.
Wrong
its what cults do. Thats what Islam is. Just a cult.
@@sweetbymia5317 Islam is not a cult
u can't hold a peaceful religion accountable
@@Neko.Virtual What is a cult? Explain the BITE model to us. Do you know the BITE model for determine what is and isn't a cult?
The problem is that the mother has no say about the marriage of her daughter. The father is the one making this call.
Thank you for exposing these people. And thank you for doing it in a respectful way.
@Lorenzo Green okay and? don't get me wrong a marriage between a 8 years old child and a 90 years old man is something terrible however that doesn't justify that a 50 year old man married a 9 year old girl
@Lorenzo Green The Mary/ Joseph story is a theological myth - not history.
@Lorenzo Green Chuck ALL that garbage in the bin - starting with your baby-raping prophet's mad ranting nonsense.
@Lorenzo Green I am not a Christian. I live in the Republic of China. I think you are confused. Maybe Allah is not speaking clearly enough to you. Pray more. ;)
@Lorenzo Green Oh stop speaking nonsense. The owner of this site is an atheist. Lunatic religions are a concern for ALL of humanity. Not just you and your silly god and so-called prophet. Your answer demonstrates to me the kind of "culture" your religion brings to the world. You don't even know that Taiwan is not China - such ignorance is common amongst your so-called religion.
ΑΙΙah is holy Molly
Hey u here , nice to meet u 😁🙏
@@mohitkhandagale2891
Hi bro
@@Addam1488 agreed
I don't understand the argument "it was another time, people in those times did it".
Is Mohammed the prophet of all time or only of his time? Was he the best human being or not?
It makes no sense
And they still do it as marriage in the US and as sexual relationship in all west, choose your best
In America, if someone tried to give a child in marriage to someone else, you could actually do something: you could call the police.
Unfortunately, in most American states, the law allows children to marry adults as long as the parent consents and a judge does not overrule the marriage. This is the case mostly to appease trad-Christian groups such as the Mennonites (incliding the Amish) and Primitive Baptists, who believe a girl should be wed soon after her period.
"I'm part of a group of people with great values. I'll be thrown out and likely harmed by that same group if I ever reject pedophilia."
Solid values.
🎤 💥. AP is rapid fire. That said, I'm very happy to see the civility of this debate. Cheers to both of you for sticking to the discussion.
AP DOESN'T UNDESTAND SIMPLE LOGIC. Allowing doesn't mean obligating it. You are allowed to eat shrimp, you are NOT obligated to eat it. AP just hates Islam. Period.
NO CIVILIZED PERSON makes excuses from others
I condemn this kind of behavior
Therefore I condemn this woman for doing such thing
Bad is bad, wrong is wrong, nothing justifies bad things
Children marriage is not a thing of the past. It's still practiced in many Muslim countries today because of Muhammad.
Exactly , filthy prophet
It happens in western countries, despite being illegal, in the name of the prophet.
I want to add extreme poverty as well, many Muslim countries are dealing with poverty like Afghanistan, and in a culture that women are already considered less than men, they will sell them or marry them off to gain some money
I love that instead of "destroying" her, you held her with a delicate yet firm grip.
She's intelligent and not a hypocrite, respect to both of you.
Spiritual people can be interested in and inspired by various religions, value them for what they are.
Religious people need an answer to everything, and it comes with the promise that they'll finally understand it after they die.
Understand it after they die? What??? No justification for molesting little girls at a young age. Ignorant and sad. Young girls should NEVER be given in marriage. Never! After they die and understand, be damned.
Sorry but she is either hypocrite or liar if you listen carefully
@@WandaWojcik You don't understand, I don't understand, no one understands because no one ever came back from the dead to tell. See the beauty of the plot ;)
@@EnderElohim She admits that her reasoning is flawed, what more do you want?
@@MojocasterOo Being self aware not enough when you still insist on justifying hypocrisies: For example you can be a smoker and say smoking is bad. But if you say smoking is bad and you smoking and when somebody point it out you say but it is okay for me than no it is not okay.
Just because you self aware not get rid of being hypocrite
I just heard say she’d offer to adopt the neighbor’s daughter so she wouldn’t be a child bride. But I thought Islam does not recognize adoption.
The child has to be breastfeed to be seen as a son or daughter. Otherwise it cannot be a mehram,
Also, if I am not wrong, she needs the permission of her husband/Wali to do it.
Besides, the fact that she refuses to criticize child marriage and instead talks around the subject of the law allowing it is a clear indication that she doesn't actually see it as something wrong or something that should be gotten rid of.
She is confused, still having remnants of her Western values and trying very hard to reconcile it with Islamic teaching.
Yeah, abolished adoption after muhammad fell in love with zainab (ex daughter in law and cousin).
How allah creates law convenient to muhammad! more than the moon splitting, i think it Is greatest miracle of islm.
Ap coulda called her out on that but he let her keep going to the next thing
We must not be silent !!! TOO SEXUAL VIOLENCE in the KORAN against CHILDREN !!
Fornication is forbidden according to the Bible! In all situations it is FORBIDDEN !!
*******But in the Koran fornication is allowed !! Even with children !!***
Here everything is allowed for SEXUAL satisfaction! Possession of your right hand = SLAVE !!
Sura 4,3 And if you fear that you will not be righteous towards the orphans, marry whatever is good for you in women, two, three or four; and if you fear not being cheap, (marry) one or something in your right hand (hand is = SLAVES also CHILDREN). This is the best way to avoid injustice.
Allah allows fornication with slaves !! = rape of children is included !!
Disgusting what Islam implies to God!
This woman just verified that she is a better person than the one she calls her best example.Therein lies a contradiction Muslims must face. They call Muhammad their best example, yet many of them would never do several of the things he did. Muslims, wake up.⏰You are too good for Muhammad.
Great Job by AP......
We can conclude that
the The Prophet was a Copycat that copied Joseph and Mary with child marriage......
Also how The Almighty God implanted himself into a young 12 year old girls casts religions in general under suspicious light.........
@@bluerock9238 First, that is not true. The Bible says concerning Mary, "Blessed art thou among WOMEN, not children. Second, Joseph was a character in the story, not the founder, prophet, and "Best example" as Muhammad is to Islam. So for those two reasons, your comparison fails.
@@bluerock9238 it’s better you don’t talk than you utter nonsense…
Mary wasn’t 12.
Joseph and Muhammed cannot even be compared.
Read hadith and see what Muhammed did to young boys,girls and slaves…such a pity😒
Stop saying nonsense!
That’s a great comment! Thank you!
It is unbelievable that her faith can bring her to this state of mind.
What’s so crazy about this interview is the angle of compassion with which AP is approaching her. You’ll never see a Muslim Apologist with the same care.
Literally. Theyre always so haughty and arrogant. No humility
She admits this is evil, so she pretty much isn't a muslim anymore
"Religion makes smart and morally good people do and say stupid things." Christopher Hitchens
@Lorenzo Green I would happily give up my phone if it meant Islam never existed. Good thing Islam has nothing to do with smart phones
You can say the same thing about Christianity and Budhism and also let's say, Roman empire. It's history. Unless the instructions on how to make a smart phone is in the qoran, your point is pointless sophistry.
@Lorenzo Green why can't you say Arabs and Persians invented them. Why do you bring religion into this point? Those people also had beard but you wouldn't try to defend having a beard with the invention of algebra, would you? Like I said, unless God told muhammed how to build a smartphone; you, sir, don't have a point.
@Lorenzo Green well, thank you for proving christopher hitchens's point, Lorenzo.
" Atheism makes rational people woke & suicidal"
- Dinesh D'Souza
8:48 she says it out loud and still is not able to see. Pray for the eyes of her heart to be opened.
In Jesus name, amen
She’s a bright young woman. Very smart n calm. I hope one day she will realize that Islam is fake n wrong n finds her way out.
What a shame. This woman has sacrificed her decency for a belief. She knows it is wrong for her child but refuses to condemn the parctice as wrong. Oh well, some French king did it, really?
She can't say it's wrong openly because the "peacefuls" will be baying for blood!
when the french king didn't say it was God who asked him to do that. The king did it at his own accord 🤝 👏 🙌 😤
@@theman8070 , exactly!! They were not prophets..muhammad was a " prophet " of al lah who is the example to every abdul
@@theman8070 I am getting a feeling that schitzophrenia may have played a role there.
Well christianity is definitely false and it's a copy of the sun God its Also in decline🤷♂️
The thing is, because of the "example" of their prophet, there are still Muslim men who marry children in this day and age. Allah already banned alcohol at that time, but not child marriage.
Lol.. she tried hard to get away, from the fact that Religion makes sane people do evil things. Loved the way you blocked every exit she tried to take.... you were fantastic AP...
This is the correct way to deal with people who believe everything on faith.. don't allow them to get away from the fact, Whats wrong is wrong. pedophilia will not be tolerated by any sane parents..
This woman has a heart of stone. Only Christ can turn it into a heart of flesh.
But someone already stabbed your Christ in heart for his last drop of blood
@@padhiyarnikita8159 he died but he is resurrected
Living eternally
Looks like she don't know how things work in Islamic countries .She said that each mother can say no,that isn't true!
I cracked up at that one - this poor woman is clueless.
Tell us the real truth
That's a question for buddy
@@principlemethods5281 I'm sure that everyone knows real thruth!
@@buddy335 which is?... U made a statement... R u not going to substantiate it?
*HOW CAN YOU BELIEVE IN SOMETHING YOU DON'T BELIEVE?*
Exactly. This dissonance is so common among the religious, especially Muslims.
Different time periods?? That's bull...Moses lived years b4 muhammad and many others prophets how come we don't have records of any of them marrying babies. The French King's were not partten of conduct and they were not prophets but muhammad was a "prophet " in his 50's with a wife of 9😝😝😝
well no french king married a young girl unless they were young too..but you are right they were just men not god's prophets.
Moses literally commands the taking of little girls as sex slaves in the bible.
Whataboutism is not an argument, lady.
I trust that by you exposing the barbaric beliefs of these people, it will help others open their eyes and they'll "stay away from Islam" and every other religion.
Great job, AP!
But mister you also have your own religion. It is atheism, it is belief.
@@mirambroz5015 🤣🤣 thanks for the laugh!
@@veganatheistandmore Not at all, you are welcome
@@mirambroz5015 I would say that Atheism isn't a religion. It's more just the opposite of religion.
@@mirambroz5015 Atheism is not a religion.
"We're not allowed to criticise him on it." No questioning in Islam.
I like it when people debate very respectfully like this.
" Stupidity is amazing " - Christian Prince -
Farid Responds
Your bible sex slavery
Good logic for your mind
1+1+1=1 yea stupidity is amazing
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@@aabdullah2996 فما استمتعتم به منهن فآتوهن أجورهن فريضة 🤣🤣💃 mashallah mashallah
@@generaljg4373 what about 1x1x1 smart abdul... God is not a calculation.... but your god is a pimp 🤣 فما استمتعتم به منهن فآتوهن أجورهن فريضة 🤣💃
Abu bakr was forced by the “prophet “ to give up his daughter this lady doesn’t know her religion
Sahih al-Bukhari 5081
Narrated 'Urwa:
The Prophet (ﷺ) asked Abu Bakr for `Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."
You can't stop your neighbours from doing whatever they wanna do, but if you yourself leave islam your muslim neighbours are coming for your headd....🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
The earth is flat, 6000 years old and there was a great flood 4500 years ago.
You're ignorance is overwhelming.
the most popular islamic argument about aisha's age is that "it was perfectly normal at the time" well that argument would work out if your faith isn't practiced in today's time! If you support mhmd's actions "at the time" it means you're still ok with them today! so which is it? Because mhmd isn't perfect man of 7th century, he is "perfect man for ALL TIME"
Good thing a huge number of muslims are better than their profet, even tho they would deny it!
Well no. Muhammed eksempel is eternal, outside culture and time
Just like jesus is.
He is the perfekt eksempel, for all time, eternal
@@chalsfo well here's the thing, Christians think Jesus is perfect, he had no sl*ves and took no wife, Islam also acknowledge him as sinless but doesn't call him perfect man.that title goes to mhmd who married a 6 year old, had people who insulted him kílléd and also bought, owned and traded blk SL*ves as well ... And he's Muslim perfect man, clearly one of these two religions is at the very least wrong! But both can not be true!!!
Exactly, islam claims to be morally objective. So why would what Mohammed did be considered wrong.
@@bibaolaitan5189 true that, when I debate Muslims as an atheist/agnostic they always bring objective morality so I flip it back to them
Was it objective or subjective morality that guided mhmd into the bedchambers of a 9 year old?
And see how they run away from that
Personal agony sometimes leads to strange decisions. When you are down it's important for you to at least make sure that you are not hurting yourself even more. The lady is trying to avenge for her past by hurting herself by accepting the evil.
She has been radicalised to a deep extent that her normal thinking has abruptly ended.
This is just so sad. It shows the mindset you have to have to follow a cult. 🙁 She is waiting to die to find out the truth and she doesn't want to challenge it and find out the truth now even though it's right infront of her face.
Regardless of how I feel about this issue, thanks to the both of you for a healthy and respectful debate. I enjoy hearing both sides. I thought classy and respectful debates were a thing of the past on UA-cam. Thank you both for proving me wrong.
As a human if my neighbor do it. I will prevent it
I really appreciate the compassion from AP, laced with a robust and firm direction for the conviction of his question. Compelling viewing, great work again AP.
A society that allows chilld marriage, under *any circumstances* is sick & depraved.
And slavery, blasphemy laws, medieval punishments, misogeny, no text criticism, etc, etc.
A P ! You were great ! The way you exposed this lady's double standards were phenomenal ! She is saying that it is ok in islam to molest a 6 yr old child but it is not ok to criticise islam for it's wrongs just because Allah sanctions them. This proves that everyone should stay away from ☪️ islam 🤕
This Criticize hypocrisy
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AP DOESN'T UNDESTAND SIMPLE LOGIC. Allowing doesn't mean obligating it. You are allowed to eat shrimp, you are NOT obligated to eat it. AP just hates Islam. Period.
I'd like to point out that she's respectful, tries to make her point and never interrupts. And she definitely is thoughtful. Same for him. But unfortunately it is clear that even if she has no argument left and even when she admits that she's out of arguments, she's still trying to deny at least to herself. And that's what makes me sad, it seems like there's no way out, no way to change a mind. Even if it's a person who is actually interested in the discussion and seemingly smart, something blocks the mind.
It was hard to watch for me.
Jesus, have mercy and show this woman the truth
Sorry jesus died long time ago, only Allah exist hes jesus God
@@generaljg4373 Lol Jesus isn't dead in Islamic tradition. You don't even know the basics of your own religion.
@@generaljg4373 No, Islam denies Jesus was crucified it says that Jesus was lifted to Heaven by Allah. Islam's views about Jesus came 600 years after his death.
@@foreignstarz that's right jesus in Islam is a prophet and didn't die that's why hes coming back, but in cristianity hes probably juda the one that died on the cross so that's why I said Cristian god died lol
@@generaljg4373 You are so stupid! I'm sure people tell you that all the time!
Selfish woman! Not my children but others...
How is that selfish if it's not in accordance with her own interests?
@@resgresg Not selfish. Hypocrite.
She looks and thinks like she's 14 yo herself. Also, since when do women get to choose what happens to children in Islam? I thought men make all the rules in Islam.
Maybe she's a single mother
@@MohammedMuhiUddin Probably. Even so, if she does marry, her husband will have the authority over his step-daughter, not her.
10 out of 10 for her honesty
The status of Women in Islam have been lowered to that of property of men.
Ishtar you are a freaking donut xD Know ur history, its the opposite. Islam came to give women Rights...
How were women treated before islam? Reasearch that. Women only got rights 50 years ago. We gave them all their rights 1400 years ago.
@@eijstech Islam does talk about the nonbelieving women as what the right hand possesses(possession) and then the Quran says the believing WOMEN ARE DEFICIENT IN INTELLIGENCE AND RELIGION
Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the other."(Q. 4:34)
Q. 4:11, said: "(The males share is that of two females). Man is more perfect than the woman in creation, and intelligence, and in the religious sphere, such as the suitability to be a judge, and a leader in worship. Also, the testimony of the man is twice that of the woman. So that whoever is given great responsibilities must be given correspondingly great privileges. As the woman is deficient in intelligence and of great lust, if she is given much money, much corruption will be the result. "
How is believing women to be substandard to men a blessing
No one cares about your subjectivity lmao. Bring forth your evidence!
@@ApologeticsAddict It's amusing when the Quran isn't considered evidence. "The institution of marriage in Islam remains very different for men to what it was for women, and the rights accorded to husbands were distinct from those accorded to wives. In fact it is probably not accurate to use the term 'rights of the woman' since a woman under the Islamic system of marriage has no human rights unless we consider that a slave has rights under a slave system. Marriage, in so far as women are concerned, is just like slavery to the slave, or the chains of serfdom to the serf."
@@ishtarlew598 What are you quoting bruh?😭
"A crab will eat its babies" "a pig will eat its own baby" so human is comparable to crab and pig?😅
Snake eat it's babies too but does she means other animals and humans are have same intelligence we are not more worth than animals for Allah 😂
@@padhiyarnikita8159
Allah knows best 🤭😌
"Don't know why allah allowed it" Bruh Allah is the person Muhammad met in his dreams, wanna hear who I meet in my dreams? lmfao
Freddy Krueger ?
Allah is choMO's perverted alter ego
cuz allah is a gangsta
muhammad.
@@Alansworstnight muhammad peace never be upon him
AP your great keep it up. I’m Christian and do not agree with everything you say but I LOVE how you are respectful to your guests and make your point so well. I watch Christian videos and on the whole I enjoy them but honestly your such a great guy you loves those around him we need more like you in Christianity. Again thank you AP 🙏
The fact that a person who herself was abused to justify child marriage, tells you all you need to know about Islam. You can never criticize the prophet, smh.
yeah abused children also become abusive people too especially thanks to islam they also justified and encouraged
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👕👍 *This a classic example how Islam 'ROTS' the brain!* 🏃💨
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“Who knows why Allah would allow that.”
Because Allah’s word is just Muhammad’s word.
This lady is DISGUSTING. She said she will not allow any man to marry her 6 years old child but she responded to my comment on her channel by saying " *Concubines/slaves/captives are halal* (in Islam) " She speaks one thing to the non-muslim audience and the opposite to her Muslim audience
If the child is on whether she is engaged to another man