Exactly what I was thinking; it’s capitalism. In the past families were stronger when it wasn’t just the mother and the father but grandparents and relatives chipping in to help support too. One woman can’t be expected to do everything, it’s not healthy for anyone, and even damages the relationship with her spouse too if he’s too busy with work to adequately contribute (even if stays at home)
@alurian3208 oh bull. Things were great 2 and a half years ago. Things are way out of line. Biden does not care. You should tale off your rosy sunglasses. People like you are the reason this country is like it is. He has ball. The border has to be closed up. Wake up. How alde are you 20.
Sounds like this lady is talking about an already broken family unit. All those high and mighty values and you’d still vilify your own child over one thing.
@@BIG_BLUE_56Accepting and suppporting your children for who and what they are is exactly what makes a solid, loving family. Narrow-minded bigoted tyrants do not make great parents or great families.
@@civildiscourse2000 I agree, but it would suck not to have any grandchildren! So the family lineage eventually ceases to exist. It breaks down. It has nothing to do with all thE BS you mentioned!
Like it or not our country was founded on godly moral values and freedom and people want to keep the values without others abusing the morals simply by flashing the freedom card
Family is conservative ie Republican ie self sufficient broken family is democratic ie dependant so broken family mean more votes for democratic party as all democratic policies are for people who have broken families
@@fdr100100I try not to be outright insulting but that is the dumbest shit I've ever seen in print. Why don't you tell us how wonderful the families of famous Republicans MTG and Lauren Boebert are? How many times has Trump been married and how respectful of his wives has he been? Buried one on his golf course to save money, jumped Stormy Daniels when "Melanie" was home with their 4-month-old child. Steven Crowder bullying and threatening his pregnant wife. Yeah... Republicans are paragons of family virtue. You think LGBTQ folks are a threat to children? You'd be better off keeping an eye on Catholic priests, junior sports coaches, Matt Gaetz...
Never really understood how being gay goes against the family unit… you can be gay and still have a family. It happens all the time. Honestly I don’t think these people actually care about “conservative” or “Christian” values, I think they’re just homophobic
@@ricardocabeza6006 I believe, and don’t quote me here, but I think it’s between zero, and none. Somewhere in that variance, with the median being zero, and the mean being zero.
It does break down conservative Christian values though. People being openly gay or trans undermines the conservative bigotry that Christian conservatives follow and makes them look like monsters to normies.
@Turret Plug I think one can extrapolate that Christian values would go along with conservative values considering in modern times the two are more often than not grouped together.
@@turretplug6858 it is implied that they're talking about "conservative" values through an American Christian lens. If you step outside the American bubble you will find that there are types of conservatives that are socially progressive. In Canada there are progressive conservatives whose values are not threatened by the LGBTQ community at all. Progressive conservatives are socially progressive but economically conservative. And since "conservative" does not have a universal definition beyond "against change" there are athiest communist conservatives in some countries. Admittedly, Muslim conservatives in countries like Iran also have their values threatened by the LGBTQ community existing publicly and China's conservatives are threatened by it as well but it would be pretty silly to assume this blonde haired white American woman is advocating for Iranian or Chinese conservative values. Do you really think she is not a Christian?
That’s not what she means. If the child is gay, then that gay child grows up with non traditional values, then those non traditional values get passed down to the gays child’s “family”.
Children aren't supposed to be talking that shit in the first place Let them grow up on their own instead of grooming them into a narrative where everyone is the enemy
I come from a Catholic family and I'm gay. All my family knew a long time ago and they accepted me because they love me and want me to be happy. This bigoted woman is filled with hate. I would feel sorry if any of her family or friends comes out as LGBTQ+.
@@rs72098n general, yes, but that doesn't mean there aren't exceptions. There are progressive Catholics and progressive movements within the Catholic church.
i dont understand "unconditional love". There is no such thing. If my child did something like commit an act of terrorism, war crimes, or rape, i would not love them anymore. There can still be love while you have expectations but all there needs to be is a mutual understanding
@@civildiscourse2000 because their comment is a reflection of their perceptions and perspectives. Life is the toughest teacher of all, and when you haven’t been through those lessons that life teaches you, then a person is left with the simplistic and inaccurate notions that are taught to children that are without nuance.
A CHILD can not have a sexual preference, straight or gay. Are you insane?! If my CHILD suggested they were gay because they liked playing with the same sex or the opposite sex, I'd correct that idea by informing my CHILD that they are too young to understand homosexuality or bisexuality. A child who thinks they have a sexual preference has been GROOMED. A boy who plays with feminine things and a girl who plays with masculine toys should be allowed to experience and explore that without being pushed into some GAY ideology. Let them go through their phases and eventually grow-up!! If the feminine boy goes through puberty and experiences sexual preferences, THEN that YOUNG MAN can make a decision. Same for young women!! CHILDREN ARE NOT TO BE SEXUALIZED.
I'm talking about myself because as young as like 6-7 I knew I liked girls and yould probably want to date a girl later in life, like sire kids won't know the intricate parts of identity but it's selling them short saying they have NO idea what being gay or straight is.
@@DanialTarkiYes-- because children often learn behavior from their environmental role models. The current consensus in the field of child development supports the idea that children thrive in environments where they are allowed to explore their identities and interests without being confined to traditional gender roles (which include sexuality). Healthy development is more closely associated with parenting style, emotional availability, and the overall environment than with adherence to specific gender roles. My position in argument is that parents should support and nurture their children's interests without mentioning psychology that is attributed to POST-PUBERTY phases of life, such as sexual preference. Pre-pubescent children do not have a sexual preference until puberty is reached unless of course they LEARNED it before puberty. THEREFORE THE CHILD HAS BEEN GROOMED INTO NORMALIZING SEXUALITY (hetero, bi, or homo). This is why my children do not watch any content that exposes children to sexuality, whether it is Disney princesses kissing a prince, or two gay women kissing (The Legend of Korra is an example of that). They can decide to watch those things AFTER THEY GO THROUGH PUBERTY and are in a better mental state to contemplate themselves and discern whether they enjoy or disapprove of such content. My argument stands that children should not be sexualized nor encouraged to be sexualized. This is by definition, "grooming". It is manipulative behavior against someone (especially prepubescent minors in this case) who does not have the capacity to consent. CHILDREN cannot CONSENT TO SEXUALITY the same way children can not consent to becoming married or getting tattooed.
How is what he said a giant leap? It is much more of a leap to say that juat by the act of a child being gay that the family unit breaks down. What he said makes perfect sense. The family unit (love, oneness) only would break down if someone breaks it. Being gay, doesn't do it alone. Being maligned by family for being gay does
@@neotheboxer Anyone who thinks a biological man can just magically become a biological female because that man now wears a dress is the definition of a liar. Congrats. You have been fooled by gaslighter David.
Hmmmmm 🤔. I'm a parent that is transitioning. Wonder what she would have to say about me. David is absolutely correct. It only breaks the family if someone like her destroys it themselves. But the narcissism won't allow them to take that responsibility. It is the fault of whoever dares to be themselves
@@turretplug6858 being politically anti trans is persecution of trans people. Dude get an education, i see your brutally ignorant comments on shorts from this channel constantly.
Go on all the hormones you want, get all the surgeries that will transform you into a beautiful butterfly. But geez, don't force your family to go along with it. They'll be right to judge you.
@@cleo5050 Yeah, I know, right! When a family member becomes so deluded and narcissistic they'll use the emotional manipulation of becoming trans to force their parents an siblings to worship them. What a load of shit!
You can not force somebody to be gay or trans nor can you force anybody to be straight. Why do these people need to persecute others fur bribh the way they were born!
you are not born trans. Your social traits are determined by the environment you were brought up in whether you realize it or not. And thats what these trans people use to say their a different gender which doesnt make any sense
Trans kids being accepted would help strengthen the family unit allowing the person to feel trust, support and love. Three things everyone needs to thrive.
What!!! 😂 nobody said anything about rejecting gays. If my 8 year old son comes to me and says he's gay I'm going to teach him about puberty and how it's going to be tough and we can revisit this conversation after he goes through it.
It breaks down the family unit because gays don't get married and reproduce you dumbfucks. Break down the family and you break down society. Break down society and you break down the country.
I don’t understand parents that cannot experience unconditional love for their child. Yet they believe that their God is capable of loving them unconditionally. If you don’t see the disconnect, this might be you.
What that ‘mom’ is actually saying is that she thinks her ‘values’ are so superior that other people are willingly complicating their lives out of spite (thus also acknowledging that her ‘values’ are a privilege and not obtainable for everyone). Why would she think such an outrageous thing? Because maybe she would do things out of spite herself, I guess..?
This woman has spiritual eyes to see the battle that is actually taking place in the unseen spirit realm of good vs evil the video didn’t need an alphabet warriors rebuttal at the end
Homosexuality and gender dysphoria are real. OTOH there's no proof of the existence of "spirits." While I can't disprove the idea that an invisible sky fairy created a universe of trillions of galaxies each composed of hundreds of billions of stars and yet still cares whether I brush my teeth at night, I choose to brush my teeth because provable science and direct experience tells me what the consequences will be if I don't.
When all you have in life is family, and you're terrified of losing it.... it seems like delusional fear strikes frequently. This woman needs some hobbies and skills. You don't get this delusional if you don't have a LOT of spare time. I'm PRETTY SURE that gay people aren't out there working hard to destroy the family unit through deliberate actions.. Thinking that is just so crazy. Also sad to see someone in a relationship who just sits there waiting for one of their kids to come out, and then the whole family just ends. Parents get divorced, kids out on the streets. What a way to live a life... Constant fear..
@@punchyourmama exactly what? I think you have me confused with someone who cares about your silly gender debates. I could care less what other people are doing.
if you have a child and the child is gay, he cannot remain pregnant behind or in his mouth. In addition, the movement is already gaining momentum, considering that political, religious, in schools, it is already becoming a fashion. It is not necessary for the parents to kick him out. He leaves alone, trying to get pregnant in the back, or repeating...eating the ice cream, hoping...the same
They want to breakdown the family unit in order to have more people spending money they don't have. Family units tend to save money and keep it within the family. Simple economics. The government wants more taxes because they spend more than they can afford!
The point they are making is that if someone is not naturally gay, then encouraging or promoting this 'agenda' can be interpreted as destroying the fabric of the traditional family.
Gay couples that do not have the money to pay a surrogate or adopt...they never know the connection of having children with their spouse. The Family Unit this woman was talking about wasn't the family unit at a parent to gay/trans child level...how many gay/Trans children grow up to have their own children and how can they do this and stay true to their beliefs? If my son takes puberty blockers and hormone treatments then get gender reasignment surgeries what is the possibility of him becoming a parent with his own DNA?
I don’t even understand how letting kids to that is a discussion and such a big one at that it’s wrong to let your kid make a decision that will effect them the rest their life because they are children without the education and level of life experiences to be able to rationally make that decision
@@sandieserrano2425 I'm sorry you're unable to have children... At least you went through puberty though, right? Idk you, and I'm not trying to make confident guesses as to what happened to you, but-- What happened to you wasn't because of the intervention by pharmaceutical companies and greedy doctors profiting off your mental instability under the guise of "life saving therapy", therefore "accidentally" sterilizing you (even though they promised all procedures were reversible...Right?? Your condition isn't a circumstance of our big pharma's willful negligence, was it? If so, you should find a lawyer and a therapist to help you in dealing with that. Again, I'm sorry if I'm being rude, I just find it inappropriate to compare the abnormal mental state of these "trans" people "being born in the wrong body" and mutilating their bodies to become sterile only to cry that they cant have kids-- to normal humans such as yourself who have some rare genetic mutation that makes procreation difficult or impossible. Like-- they're not comparable...
Both of my dsughters and in fact now my 10 yr old granddaughter have asked me, what do I think about them being gay in some manner, i.e. bisexual. I've told them all..... I will love you the same as I ALWAYS have and ALWAYS will. I ask them, why are you even asking me this? They say, bc other kid's families say they will b disowned by their families, my girls grew up in 80s n 90s. Look now, my 10 yr old granddaughter is telling me abt these weird sexual preferences like with "things n animals" and that's getting bizarre now, I asked her where she learned of these things and she said from school and I also have heard these things from her classmates. My daughter has control over social media for her daughter, what happened to loving your family, wanting them to excell at what they do, support them in their endeavors. Who cares if your kid is gay, r u afraid they're gonna have you catch it? I know what the Bible says, it also says NOT TO JUDGE! Can't these ppl think?
Thanks to their religion. These people are under the impression that you can groom and indoctrinate someone into being gay. But that's just their religious grooming and indoctrination talking.
It’s actually confronting to have a trans person in your family. I’ve got three! We have not kicked them out of the house but it has caused sleepless nights and a lot of anguish.
Dude, if that all it takes to break down the family unit, maybe it's already broke. Also, what are traditional conservative values? Hating people they don't like? How is that a value?
If by reject you mean, have any issue with it at all, then I guess, yeah I guess they reject them. What is the threshold between acceptance and rejection?
Parkman isn’t wrong but the analysis is off, when she is talking about family structure she is almost certainly talking about them being in heterosexual reproductive relationships later in life
i don't agree with the lady in the video but i think thats a bad faith interpretation of their "break down the family unit" argument. They mean that the gay person wont grow up marry the opposite sex and have kids etc.
Conservatives “value” is oxymoron. Just pure ignorance and bigotry. Conservatives in the 21st century aren’t even conservatives anymore. They are just anti progress.
Conservative “values” must include being ok with multiple divorces, bigotry, adultery, misogyny, habitual lying, criminal behavior, and a general lack of ethics. Because former P.O.t.u.S. Trump exemplifies 👏every👏single👏one👏 of those unsavory traits and then some. Lol But sure, hypocrites, worry about LGBTQA+ kids ruining your “values”.
Adding what I believe is the conservative woman's view, so apologies if this offends. The comment that "it only breaks down values if the parents reject the trans kid" is narrow minded. The concept the woman is trying to make is the family unit is mom, dad, and a few kids (nuclear family) that will grow up to reproduce another nuclear family. Trans and other LGB folks don't create nuclear families.
You misunderstood the point David made. How does "THEM" making kids gay destroy the family unit? As he said, the only way the family unit breaks is if the parents disown the kid, whether or not they were "made" to be gay or not.
@@joetheschmoe2 destroying the family unit by confusing and undermining parental rights, and giving drugs that would make them even more confused and destroy there body and installing the hatred beliefs that the alphabet people.
@@rs72098 disapline values respect and morals are part of parating. Punishing a child for something he or she didn't ask for like being gay is plain cruel in my opinion.
First off, you can't MAKE a kid gay or trans. You're either gay or you're not. If you are gay and have kids, it doesnt mean your kids will be. Just let people be who they are, mind your own business and stay the F out of their lives and everyone will be fine. If your kids are gay just be supportive. Those who they love, should love them back.
actually its well observed that media has a thorough effect on who you are attracted to and the traits that people use to change their gender. So yes it can be very very easily influenced which is why we are seeing things like drag queens under the age of 10 with both trans parents.
@@arjunalagappa7371 Yes, media has an influence on "what is attractive", BUT it doesnt MAKE you gay. Either you are or you are not. And I'm not sure if you are trolling about the drag under 10 with both trans parents comment. If you are, ha ha, if you're not, WOW! Show me an example, ANY actual example of that and that its a rampant problem. I'll wait.
Because if you don't know who you are, bc you can be this today, something else tomorrow, you never know who you are, and never will. I know 8 poly couples. They all imploded. The one pushing it, ended up cheating. Even tho it was open. Within 6m it was over. And the other one only went along to not loose the relationship
No, it breaks down to family because it means that the likely hood of a next generation lessens. Even if you factor in adoption, most couples, gay or straight, are less likely to want to adopt. In fact, as time goes on, the desire to even become parents lessens. Thus, being gay is just one prong that isn't "family friendly", regardless.
Why can’t people mind they own business about the boundaries in the household is? People have they own spiritual beliefs / Religion values. People need mind the business that pay them. People so sensitive now smh.
And they still don't mention what the end goal is, why do they need to break down "traditional conservative values"? What does anyone actually to gain from that?
@@turretplug6858 because the goal of traditional conservative values is to remain at a certain point, denying growth and change. Guess what’s also pointless and unnatural? Stagnation.
@@turretplug6858 wait. Are you trying to say that CONSERVatism isn’t about remaining unchanged? I don’t think there’s one single point to being gay. You’d have to ask some gay people that. But if you think the only point to bring straight is having kids, you need to talk to a therapist.
What about the one hundred percent of kids that go through growing up and make many decisions and make many more changes As they change and regret the push you clowns put on them
If you have a drug addicted kid and also a thief but you also have other kids that may be influenced by the drug addicted kid, it only brakes down the family structure if you create distance between the kids so you should keep them together like nothing is wrong and just accept the whole situation, that makes sense
Are you comparing same sex attraction to drugs? What have they got in common? They’re both divisive subjects. So by extension anything divisive is a direct comparison to drugs for you. Religion, sexuality, stance on racism are all as bad as drug’s because they can effect the family dynamic? It’s just a silly argument and you know it’s just silly. Oh you and your silliness.
The only reason why people view gay people as divisive is due to religion. Religion divides the family dynamic. Therefore it’s as bad as drugs? That’s your logic.
So let me guess, you’re Jehovahs Witness and believes people who sin should be ostracized from others. Got it. That’s exactly very Christian of you. I swear you all are the worst things walking the earth.
Are you comparing having a drug addicted child to having a child who is gay? Follow up question, how in the hell did you think this was a valid argument?
@@estebab2343 Unnatural learned behavior among siblings, i know the comparasen is extreme but i did it just to make a point, we had that issue come up in one of my good friends family, other kids got influenced but now is all fix which tells me that is a matter of preference and will.
A family is conservative as a child ur parents take care of ur health ur education ur home, if u break up the family the government takes care of these things that is why the only way democrats can win elections is to cater to the broken home and they maintain power my making sure the home stays broken
THIS IS NOT ME CONDONING HOMOPHOBIA OR FAMILIES ABANDONING GAY KIDS IN ANY WAY Do any of you people know what Christianity (the origin of the family unit that society is built upon) says about homosexuality? The bible says it’s a sin, no greater or no less than other sins, simply a sin. Now if I were a God-fearing parent whose child turned gay, I would be incredibly distraught. Not because I’m a homophobic or I want all gays to be burned at stake, but because my beliefs tell me thar the wages of sin is death, and the acceptance of homosexuality almost always means the rejection of Christianity. Now I don’t know about you but I feel uneasy at the fact that now my child will burn in the fires of hell for all eternity when his or her life comes to an end. Just something to think about next time you dismiss all christians as homophobes and refuse to see things from the other side
K dude, have some sense and stop trying to twist what shes saying. Obviously shes talking about the family unit in a more broader sense. A gay or trans person will more likely not be having a traditional family unit and procreating.
Lol - It literally ends the family line. That doesn't count?
It doesn’t? How so?
@@Finn_that_trans_therian It does
@@HaleStorm49 how so?
@@Finn_that_trans_therian Science. THATS HOW. 🤦♂️
@@relicfrags7064 no but if your transgender you can get your eggs frozen?
What breaks down the “family unit” is the fact the cost of living is so high people have to work their lives away and can’t afford a family.
damn right. we need trump back.
Exactly what I was thinking; it’s capitalism. In the past families were stronger when it wasn’t just the mother and the father but grandparents and relatives chipping in to help support too. One woman can’t be expected to do everything, it’s not healthy for anyone, and even damages the relationship with her spouse too if he’s too busy with work to adequately contribute (even if stays at home)
@@MrEdkern Trump would only make things worse with his drama.
@alurian3208 oh bull. Things were great 2 and a half years ago. Things are way out of line. Biden does not care. You should tale off your rosy sunglasses. People like you are the reason this country is like it is. He has ball. The border has to be closed up. Wake up. How alde are you 20.
@@MrEdkern trump doesn’t work to reward low IQ commoners like you. He doesn’t serve you, he serves your corporate overlords 😂
No it breaks the family unit in the future for that gay child..
Child can't be gay from beggining
Sounds like this lady is talking about an already broken family unit. All those high and mighty values and you’d still vilify your own child over one thing.
IT BREAKS DOWN THE FAMILY !!! How can you argue that????
its more of them not affirming an ideology that makes no sense.
@@BIG_BLUE_56Accepting and suppporting your children for who and what they are is exactly what makes a solid, loving family. Narrow-minded bigoted tyrants do not make great parents or great families.
@@civildiscourse2000 I agree, but it would suck not to have any grandchildren! So the family lineage eventually ceases to exist. It breaks down. It has nothing to do with all thE BS you mentioned!
Like it or not our country was founded on godly moral values and freedom and people want to keep the values without others abusing the morals simply by flashing the freedom card
Maybe gay kids think she's breaking down the family unit.
Think concept, lady
If you can 😅
It's about general indoctrination..she is absolutely correct
Bro being taught that you shpuld be loved no matter ur sexuality isn't indoctrination
You were taking that gal statement and twisting the context for your own answer that is so not true
It breaks down the future of the family unit!
So... why do we wanna break family? I don't understand. I just want everyone to be happy as they can be.
You being so naive is actually weird at this point.
Family is conservative ie Republican ie self sufficient broken family is democratic ie dependant so broken family mean more votes for democratic party as all democratic policies are for people who have broken families
@@fdr100100I try not to be outright insulting but that is the dumbest shit I've ever seen in print. Why don't you tell us how wonderful the families of famous Republicans MTG and Lauren Boebert are? How many times has Trump been married and how respectful of his wives has he been? Buried one on his golf course to save money, jumped Stormy Daniels when "Melanie" was home with their 4-month-old child. Steven Crowder bullying and threatening his pregnant wife. Yeah... Republicans are paragons of family virtue.
You think LGBTQ folks are a threat to children? You'd be better off keeping an eye on Catholic priests, junior sports coaches, Matt Gaetz...
Never really understood how being gay goes against the family unit… you can be gay and still have a family. It happens all the time. Honestly I don’t think these people actually care about “conservative” or “Christian” values, I think they’re just homophobic
Because gay people can’t reproduce. It’s science…….. it’s pointless behavior.
So how many people on earth were born due to homosexual activity?
@@ricardocabeza6006 I believe, and don’t quote me here, but I think it’s between zero, and none.
Somewhere in that variance, with the median being zero, and the mean being zero.
@@ricardocabeza6006 and how many are children abandoned by hetero couples? And don't quote me here, but all of them 😮
@@turretplug6858 how are those vet benefits working out? 😂
Anti-trans team
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Wow, round of applause, 6 whole likes 👏😮🙄
@@Finn_that_trans_therian20 likes while you don't even have six.
@@charlottexroyalty7819 wow?? IQ of a rocket scientist here. You’re blatantly stating the obvious 😭😭
It does break down conservative Christian values though. People being openly gay or trans undermines the conservative bigotry that Christian conservatives follow and makes them look like monsters to normies.
Who mentioned “christians”?
@Gray Just Gray nobody mentioned “christians”.
@Turret Plug I think one can extrapolate that Christian values would go along with conservative values considering in modern times the two are more often than not grouped together.
@@turretplug6858 it is implied that they're talking about "conservative" values through an American Christian lens.
If you step outside the American bubble you will find that there are types of conservatives that are socially progressive.
In Canada there are progressive conservatives whose values are not threatened by the LGBTQ community at all. Progressive conservatives are socially progressive but economically conservative.
And since "conservative" does not have a universal definition beyond "against change" there are athiest communist conservatives in some countries.
Admittedly, Muslim conservatives in countries like Iran also have their values threatened by the LGBTQ community existing publicly and China's conservatives are threatened by it as well but it would be pretty silly to assume this blonde haired white American woman is advocating for Iranian or Chinese conservative values.
Do you really think she is not a Christian?
@@Kira-zm7vy of course you can tell little stories, but it won’t change any facts.
Nobody mentioned “Christians”.
That’s not what she means. If the child is gay, then that gay child grows up with non traditional values, then those non traditional values get passed down to the gays child’s “family”.
Children aren't supposed to be talking that shit in the first place
Let them grow up on their own instead of grooming them into a narrative where everyone is the enemy
Yeah her argument is silly. But there is something to be said about intertwining political beliefs with political ideology.
I come from a Catholic family and I'm gay. All my family knew a long time ago and they accepted me because they love me and want me to be happy. This bigoted woman is filled with hate. I would feel sorry if any of her family or friends comes out as LGBTQ+.
Catholicism openly condemns gay marriage. If you have a problem with that, then you're also claiming that the Catholic Church is bigoted.
@@rs72098 I'll say it. I'll also say that kids are safer around drag queens than Catholic priests. And the statistics are on my side with that one.
@@rs72098n general, yes, but that doesn't mean there aren't exceptions. There are progressive Catholics and progressive movements within the Catholic church.
@@nerodiaOne thousand percent. Yet no, it's the LGBTQ "agenda" that's the real threat. 🙄
Thanks for sharing that. You're fortunate. Live your best life!
Try unconditional Love.
This has been their argument forever. They are NOT Christians
Who mentioned “Christians”?
@@turretplug6858 did you wander in here or something?
@@turretplug6858 they say they are the party of "family" Christian values but they are haters
@@lorifaust9874 nobody said that, it’s a little early for liberal story hour, isn’t it?
@@PerkpopperDotcom-qu3hk who mentioned “christians”?
Then those parents do NOT love their child. Unconditional love has NO CONDITIONS!
Spoken as someone who hasn’t been through much hardship in their life.
i dont understand "unconditional love". There is no such thing. If my child did something like commit an act of terrorism, war crimes, or rape, i would not love them anymore. There can still be love while you have expectations but all there needs to be is a mutual understanding
@@IdealistINFPAnd how tf would you know that?
@@arjunalagappa7371OK but are you making an equivalency between gruesome crimes and simply living one's truth without being a threat to anyone?
@@civildiscourse2000 because their comment is a reflection of their perceptions and perspectives. Life is the toughest teacher of all, and when you haven’t been through those lessons that life teaches you, then a person is left with the simplistic and inaccurate notions that are taught to children that are without nuance.
A CHILD can not have a sexual preference, straight or gay. Are you insane?! If my CHILD suggested they were gay because they liked playing with the same sex or the opposite sex, I'd correct that idea by informing my CHILD that they are too young to understand homosexuality or bisexuality. A child who thinks they have a sexual preference has been GROOMED. A boy who plays with feminine things and a girl who plays with masculine toys should be allowed to experience and explore that without being pushed into some GAY ideology. Let them go through their phases and eventually grow-up!! If the feminine boy goes through puberty and experiences sexual preferences, THEN that YOUNG MAN can make a decision. Same for young women!! CHILDREN ARE NOT TO BE SEXUALIZED.
They don't WANT children to grow up. Why do you think that they are pushing so hard to label them?
I'm talking about myself because as young as like 6-7 I knew I liked girls and yould probably want to date a girl later in life, like sire kids won't know the intricate parts of identity but it's selling them short saying they have NO idea what being gay or straight is.
Notice how you specifically brought up gay children and inversions of gender roles.
@@DanialTarkiYes-- because children often learn behavior from their environmental role models. The current consensus in the field of child development supports the idea that children thrive in environments where they are allowed to explore their identities and interests without being confined to traditional gender roles (which include sexuality). Healthy development is more closely associated with parenting style, emotional availability, and the overall environment than with adherence to specific gender roles. My position in argument is that parents should support and nurture their children's interests without mentioning psychology that is attributed to POST-PUBERTY phases of life, such as sexual preference. Pre-pubescent children do not have a sexual preference until puberty is reached unless of course they LEARNED it before puberty. THEREFORE THE CHILD HAS BEEN GROOMED INTO NORMALIZING SEXUALITY (hetero, bi, or homo).
This is why my children do not watch any content that exposes children to sexuality, whether it is Disney princesses kissing a prince, or two gay women kissing (The Legend of Korra is an example of that).
They can decide to watch those things AFTER THEY GO THROUGH PUBERTY and are in a better mental state to contemplate themselves and discern whether they enjoy or disapprove of such content.
My argument stands that children should not be sexualized nor encouraged to be sexualized. This is by definition, "grooming". It is manipulative behavior against someone (especially prepubescent minors in this case) who does not have the capacity to consent.
CHILDREN cannot CONSENT TO SEXUALITY the same way children can not consent to becoming married or getting tattooed.
@@842HYou’re not very bright, are you?
My being a Christian does not begin or end because another person wants to live the gay lifestyle. They made that decision themselves.
why are you a ting like lgbt people existing is a personal attack against your religion?
Being gay is not a choice, they just are.
Wow that's a giant leap Mr. Pakman. We expect better from you, please.
How is what he said a giant leap? It is much more of a leap to say that juat by the act of a child being gay that the family unit breaks down. What he said makes perfect sense. The family unit (love, oneness) only would break down if someone breaks it. Being gay, doesn't do it alone. Being maligned by family for being gay does
@@neotheboxer Anyone who thinks a biological man can just magically become a biological female because that man now wears a dress is the definition of a liar. Congrats. You have been fooled by gaslighter David.
Hmmmmm 🤔. I'm a parent that is transitioning. Wonder what she would have to say about me. David is absolutely correct. It only breaks the family if someone like her destroys it themselves. But the narcissism won't allow them to take that responsibility. It is the fault of whoever dares to be themselves
You’re a lousy parent, raising a liar.
I wish you well in your future life.
Best wishes from the UK .
It’s a shame you procreated before physically altering your body to the point of being incapable of procreation.
@@jacobreisser8034 ✌🏻😁💜
You shouldn't be raising children. You're mentally ill wallowing in aberrant behavior.
I'm just gonna say it... the interviewer is barely wearing make up, the interviewie barely wearing her face.
Why do people like this need to feel like they are being attacked, persecuted?
Who’s attacking or persecuting anyone?
Identity politics. Race marxists.
@@turretplug6858 being politically anti trans is persecution of trans people. Dude get an education, i see your brutally ignorant comments on shorts from this channel constantly.
@@turretplug6858 Beats me.
@@turretplug6858 I don’t think you noticed but you just agreed with him
Go on all the hormones you want, get all the surgeries that will transform you into a beautiful butterfly. But geez, don't force your family to go along with it. They'll be right to judge you.
It would be awful to be in a family like this.
They will be WRONG TO JUDGE THEM.We are to love them unconditionally.
Then its the parents fault for breaking down the family unit
@@cleo5050 Yeah, I know, right! When a family member becomes so deluded and narcissistic they'll use the emotional manipulation of becoming trans to force their parents an siblings to worship them. What a load of shit!
Do you love your children uncondotionally?
Traditional conservative values like supporting a candidate for president thAt was just found liable for sexual misconduct or whatever? Yep I get it
You can not force somebody to be gay or trans nor can you force anybody to be straight. Why do these people need to persecute others fur bribh the way they were born!
you are not born trans. Your social traits are determined by the environment you were brought up in whether you realize it or not. And thats what these trans people use to say their a different gender which doesnt make any sense
Trans kids being accepted would help strengthen the family unit allowing the person to feel trust, support and love. Three things everyone needs to thrive.
Or a good therapist who isn't going to encourage trans.
@@matthews7805 No one is "encouraging trans." That's a ridiculous right wing talking point.
You are completely wrong and you are the problem with society today
Nope you gotta teach you’re kid right from wrong not pamper them and tell them it’s ok when it’s not !!!!
@@cleo5050 what about them videos of moms telling there kids what to be they grooming there own children so they don’t feel alone it’s sad 😂
What!!! 😂 nobody said anything about rejecting gays. If my 8 year old son comes to me and says he's gay I'm going to teach him about puberty and how it's going to be tough and we can revisit this conversation after he goes through it.
She should have to explain that blsht way far out in the field until she made herself out to be the bigot she is
It breaks down the family unit because gays don't get married and reproduce you dumbfucks. Break down the family and you break down society. Break down society and you break down the country.
So traditional conservative values don’t have anything to do with the Gospel? Jesus hated no one.
Who mentioned “Jesus”?
@@turretplug6858 buddy if this is your only argument then you need to get some new ones that hold weight
she’s insane
No. Her paranoia glues her to the ignorance. Sadly that can be more crippling than insanity.
The interviewer and Parkman? I agree
@@AmericanWears bozo talkin like that wit a eagles pfp😂😂😂
Men pretending to be women is INSANE.
I don’t understand parents that cannot experience unconditional love for their child. Yet they believe that their God is capable of loving them unconditionally.
If you don’t see the disconnect, this might be you.
Unconditional love DOES NOT mean condoning a sinful lifestyle.
Unconditional does not mean lying to your children. David is not a good person. He is a gaslighter.
This is just word salad. There is no logic here. Stop looking for it.
What that ‘mom’ is actually saying is that she thinks her ‘values’ are so superior that other people are willingly complicating their lives out of spite (thus also acknowledging that her ‘values’ are a privilege and not obtainable for everyone).
Why would she think such an outrageous thing?
Because maybe she would do things out of spite herself, I guess..?
disagreeing with trans ideology is not sick, David, no matter how many times you keep trying to say so in your videos.
no being LGBT is almost like a social club now. it definitely does break down families and reinforces hypersexual values. have u seen pride recently?
This woman has spiritual eyes to see the battle that is actually taking place in the unseen spirit realm of good vs evil the video didn’t need an alphabet warriors rebuttal at the end
Homosexuality and gender dysphoria are real. OTOH there's no proof of the existence of "spirits." While I can't disprove the idea that an invisible sky fairy created a universe of trillions of galaxies each composed of hundreds of billions of stars and yet still cares whether I brush my teeth at night, I choose to brush my teeth because provable science and direct experience tells me what the consequences will be if I don't.
The discourse between the 2 women has no logic or basis.
Basically she thinks it threatening to her world. The existence and acceptance of others who don't fall in her net of beliefs?
Insane thinking by control freak
When all you have in life is family, and you're terrified of losing it.... it seems like delusional fear strikes frequently.
This woman needs some hobbies and skills. You don't get this delusional if you don't have a LOT of spare time.
I'm PRETTY SURE that gay people aren't out there working hard to destroy the family unit through deliberate actions.. Thinking that is just so crazy.
Also sad to see someone in a relationship who just sits there waiting for one of their kids to come out, and then the whole family just ends. Parents get divorced, kids out on the streets. What a way to live a life... Constant fear..
More delusions from the gop
how many genders are there?
@@punchyourmama how many deez are there?
@@docthunder8678 exactly
@@punchyourmama exactly what? I think you have me confused with someone who cares about your silly gender debates. I could care less what other people are doing.
if you have a child and the child is gay, he cannot remain pregnant behind or in his mouth. In addition, the movement is already gaining momentum, considering that political, religious, in schools, it is already becoming a fashion. It is not necessary for the parents to kick him out. He leaves alone, trying to get pregnant in the back, or repeating...eating the ice cream, hoping...the same
As a transwomen I am making sure I convert as many people as possible 😂. Sorry I am not like a church.
Blasphemous
They want to breakdown the family unit in order to have more people spending money they don't have. Family units tend to save money and keep it within the family. Simple economics. The government wants more taxes because they spend more than they can afford!
The point they are making is that if someone is not naturally gay, then encouraging or promoting this 'agenda' can be interpreted as destroying the fabric of the traditional family.
Go Woke, Go Broke..
Gay couples that do not have the money to pay a surrogate or adopt...they never know the connection of having children with their spouse. The Family Unit this woman was talking about wasn't the family unit at a parent to gay/trans child level...how many gay/Trans children grow up to have their own children and how can they do this and stay true to their beliefs? If my son takes puberty blockers and hormone treatments then get gender reasignment surgeries what is the possibility of him becoming a parent with his own DNA?
Being gay is pointless behavior……. Nothing comes from it, which makes it unnatural.
I don’t even understand how letting kids to that is a discussion and such a big one at that it’s wrong to let your kid make a decision that will effect them the rest their life because they are children without the education and level of life experiences to be able to rationally make that decision
And what about straight people like myself who never had children?
@@sandieserrano2425
I'm sorry you're unable to have children...
At least you went through puberty though, right?
Idk you, and I'm not trying to make confident guesses as to what happened to you, but--
What happened to you wasn't because of the intervention by pharmaceutical companies and greedy doctors profiting off your mental instability under the guise of "life saving therapy", therefore "accidentally" sterilizing you (even though they promised all procedures were reversible...Right??
Your condition isn't a circumstance of our big pharma's willful negligence, was it? If so, you should find a lawyer and a therapist to help you in dealing with that.
Again, I'm sorry if I'm being rude, I just find it inappropriate to compare the abnormal mental state of these "trans" people "being born in the wrong body" and mutilating their bodies to become sterile only to cry that they cant have kids-- to normal humans such as yourself who have some rare genetic mutation that makes procreation difficult or impossible. Like-- they're not comparable...
Both of my dsughters and in fact now my 10 yr old granddaughter have asked me, what do I think about them being gay in some manner, i.e. bisexual. I've told them all..... I will love you the same as I ALWAYS have and ALWAYS will. I ask them, why are you even asking me this? They say, bc other kid's families say they will b disowned by their families, my girls grew up in 80s n 90s. Look now, my 10 yr old granddaughter is telling me abt these weird sexual preferences like with "things n animals" and that's getting bizarre now, I asked her where she learned of these things and she said from school and I also have heard these things from her classmates. My daughter has control over social media for her daughter, what happened to loving your family, wanting them to excell at what they do, support them in their endeavors. Who cares if your kid is gay, r u afraid they're gonna have you catch it? I know what the Bible says, it also says NOT TO JUDGE! Can't these ppl think?
LGB ✂️✂️T
LGB is not a gender issue.
My family is so much more beautiful and loving and supportive because we love our trans daughter.
She is the light in my world 🏳️⚧️
you're failing your son
Thanks to their religion. These people are under the impression that you can groom and indoctrinate someone into being gay. But that's just their religious grooming and indoctrination talking.
It’s actually confronting to have a trans person in your family. I’ve got three! We have not kicked them out of the house but it has caused sleepless nights and a lot of anguish.
>less than 1% of the population
>"I've got 3"
Somebody is grooming them.
I agree trans people should be helped not accepted there is somethign wrong with them
It makes women stay home with the kids and out of the workforce!😮
Dude, if that all it takes to break down the family unit, maybe it's already broke. Also, what are traditional conservative values? Hating people they don't like? How is that a value?
The Stupid flows through MAGA like The Force flows through Yoda. 😂
Only difference is the one is good and the other evil!🤣🤣
Cringe
@@Krayter370 I see i've triggered you, weakling MAGA. 😂🤣
If by reject you mean, have any issue with it at all, then I guess, yeah I guess they reject them. What is the threshold between acceptance and rejection?
Exactly.
It's poor acceptance and dysfunction from within that breaks down the family. Strong family ties keeps a family strong
Parkman isn’t wrong but the analysis is off, when she is talking about family structure she is almost certainly talking about them being in heterosexual reproductive relationships later in life
I think shes right for the wrong reasons
The "traditional family unit" isn't that traditional.
Maybe you are not understanding what she is saying! Gays do no reproduce breaking up the chain of family
i don't agree with the lady in the video but i think thats a bad faith interpretation of their "break down the family unit" argument. They mean that the gay person wont grow up marry the opposite sex and have kids etc.
U didnt listen to what she said, key word is conservative values being lgbt is not part of conservative values Especially if they are flamboyant
Conservatives “value” is oxymoron. Just pure ignorance and bigotry. Conservatives in the 21st century aren’t even conservatives anymore. They are just anti progress.
You forgot to put the word “values” in quotes. YW 😂
Conservative “values” must include being ok with multiple divorces, bigotry, adultery, misogyny, habitual lying, criminal behavior, and a general lack of ethics. Because former P.O.t.u.S. Trump exemplifies 👏every👏single👏one👏 of those unsavory traits and then some. Lol
But sure, hypocrites, worry about LGBTQA+ kids ruining your “values”.
What is the population of transgender ppl? 0.002% its a distraction from real policies like a living wage.
Adding what I believe is the conservative woman's view, so apologies if this offends.
The comment that "it only breaks down values if the parents reject the trans kid" is narrow minded. The concept the woman is trying to make is the family unit is mom, dad, and a few kids (nuclear family) that will grow up to reproduce another nuclear family. Trans and other LGB folks don't create nuclear families.
She is absolutely right
Ridiculous.
Cereful how you use the word "absolutely."
You are only "right" to those who agree with you.
Only in the sick Xtian mindset😂
The issue is more complicated than either sides states.
well actually gay can’t have a child so it is a break down of family until
what a shock you miss understood the question, shes asking "why "THEY" what kids to be gay."
You misunderstood the point David made. How does "THEM" making kids gay destroy the family unit? As he said, the only way the family unit breaks is if the parents disown the kid, whether or not they were "made" to be gay or not.
@@joetheschmoe2 destroying the family unit by confusing and undermining parental rights, and giving drugs that would make them even more confused and destroy there body and installing the hatred beliefs that the alphabet people.
doesn't it end the family because if your child is gay they won t be continuing on the family
Parents love should be unconditional...
Nope. You discipline your children when they act crazy. Discipline is love.
@@rs72098 disapline values respect and morals are part of parating.
Punishing a child for something he or she didn't ask for like being gay is plain cruel in my opinion.
First off, you can't MAKE a kid gay or trans. You're either gay or you're not. If you are gay and have kids, it doesnt mean your kids will be. Just let people be who they are, mind your own business and stay the F out of their lives and everyone will be fine. If your kids are gay just be supportive. Those who they love, should love them back.
actually its well observed that media has a thorough effect on who you are attracted to and the traits that people use to change their gender. So yes it can be very very easily influenced which is why we are seeing things like drag queens under the age of 10 with both trans parents.
@@arjunalagappa7371 Yes, media has an influence on "what is attractive", BUT it doesnt MAKE you gay. Either you are or you are not. And I'm not sure if you are trolling about the drag under 10 with both trans parents comment. If you are, ha ha, if you're not, WOW! Show me an example, ANY actual example of that and that its a rampant problem. I'll wait.
Traditional family is down 40%
Most likely the child is confused just like all children are confused about stuff
Because if you don't know who you are, bc you can be this today, something else tomorrow, you never know who you are, and never will. I know 8 poly couples. They all imploded. The one pushing it, ended up cheating. Even tho it was open. Within 6m it was over. And the other one only went along to not loose the relationship
No, it breaks down to family because it means that the likely hood of a next generation lessens. Even if you factor in adoption, most couples, gay or straight, are less likely to want to adopt. In fact, as time goes on, the desire to even become parents lessens. Thus, being gay is just one prong that isn't "family friendly", regardless.
“Family unit” not “familial lineage.”
Nice try though.
@@TidyWaste same thing. Nice try yourself.
@@dswynne at least I know the difference between a finite unit and a generational lineage.
You can’t even get a slam dunk on a kid‘s hoop.
@@TidyWaste what is the point of a family? Where do “families” come from?
@@turretplug6858 holy shit. You ARE saying the only light to being straight is having kids.
Wow.
People are so ignorant.
Why can’t people mind they own business about the boundaries in the household is? People have they own spiritual beliefs / Religion values. People need mind the business that pay them. People so sensitive now smh.
LGB are all the letters
Ummm they’re not? LGBTQIA+? If you’re honestly confused about this, I suggest doing some research 😊😊😊
And they still don't mention what the end goal is, why do they need to break down "traditional conservative values"? What does anyone actually to gain from that?
From traditional conservative values? Absolutely nothing.
@@TidyWaste correct, there is no end goal to being gay or “trans” (liar). It’s pointless behavior that is unnatural.
@@turretplug6858 because the goal of traditional conservative values is to remain at a certain point, denying growth and change.
Guess what’s also pointless and unnatural? Stagnation.
@@TidyWaste that’s a fun lie….. did you make that up yourself?
What is the point of being gay?
@@turretplug6858 wait. Are you trying to say that CONSERVatism isn’t about remaining unchanged?
I don’t think there’s one single point to being gay. You’d have to ask some gay people that.
But if you think the only point to bring straight is having kids, you need to talk to a therapist.
That's what they said about the Beatles.
To be fair it fairly breaks down the family unit with regard to the next generation
no it doesn’t
@@babs_babs how not? Same sex can't have kids
@@robbieward3405 same sex can have kids.
@@babs_babs adoption and using someone else's reproductive systems is not them having kids though
@@robbieward3405 how tf do you have kids without using someone else’s reproductive system? we can’t reproduce asexually
What about the one hundred percent of kids that go through growing up and make many decisions and make many more changes As they change and regret the push you clowns put on them
If you have a drug addicted kid and also a thief but you also have other kids that may be influenced by the drug addicted kid, it only brakes down the family structure if you create distance between the kids so you should keep them together like nothing is wrong and just accept the whole situation, that makes sense
Are you comparing same sex attraction to drugs? What have they got in common? They’re both divisive subjects. So by extension anything divisive is a direct comparison to drugs for you. Religion, sexuality, stance on racism are all as bad as drug’s because they can effect the family dynamic? It’s just a silly argument and you know it’s just silly. Oh you and your silliness.
The only reason why people view gay people as divisive is due to religion. Religion divides the family dynamic. Therefore it’s as bad as drugs? That’s your logic.
So let me guess, you’re Jehovahs Witness and believes people who sin should be ostracized from others. Got it. That’s exactly very Christian of you. I swear you all are the worst things walking the earth.
Are you comparing having a drug addicted child to having a child who is gay? Follow up question, how in the hell did you think this was a valid argument?
@@estebab2343
Unnatural learned behavior among siblings, i know the comparasen is extreme but i did it just to make a point, we had that issue come up in one of my good friends family, other kids got influenced but now is all fix which tells me that is a matter of preference and will.
It should be a felony charge to change who you was born as and doctors who help should get life in prison
Dumb and dumb
Doctors who ... do their job properly should ... go to jail ? They aren't paid to let people suffer and die you know ???
If any child of mine ends up being gay, he's being disowned and abandonned.
Lunatic. How else can you describe her?
Conservative values are iblp. Tell me how is this good?
A family is conservative as a child ur parents take care of ur health ur education ur home, if u break up the family the government takes care of these things that is why the only way democrats can win elections is to cater to the broken home and they maintain power my making sure the home stays broken
It doesn't break down anything except maybe little peeny brained people
That's very very rare! Come on!
THIS IS NOT ME CONDONING HOMOPHOBIA OR FAMILIES ABANDONING GAY KIDS IN ANY WAY
Do any of you people know what Christianity (the origin of the family unit that society is built upon) says about homosexuality? The bible says it’s a sin, no greater or no less than other sins, simply a sin. Now if I were a God-fearing parent whose child turned gay, I would be incredibly distraught. Not because I’m a homophobic or I want all gays to be burned at stake, but because my beliefs tell me thar the wages of sin is death, and the acceptance of homosexuality almost always means the rejection of Christianity.
Now I don’t know about you but I feel uneasy at the fact that now my child will burn in the fires of hell for all eternity when his or her life comes to an end. Just something to think about next time you dismiss all christians as homophobes and refuse to see things from the other side
K dude, have some sense and stop trying to twist what shes saying. Obviously shes talking about the family unit in a more broader sense. A gay or trans person will more likely not be having a traditional family unit and procreating.
your in denial.
Listen to the question. Then the answer. Then the far off explanation at the end.
Being gay isn’t being trans. These two things should not be in the same sentence.