High Output Pickup Shootout (Lundgren/Guitarmory/Bare Knuckle Pickups/Seymour Duncan/DiMarzio)
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Intro/About the Pickups: 0:00
In Mix: 4:03
Out of mix High Gain: 9:17
Out of Mix Crunch: 14:31
Out of Mix Clean: 15:33
Final Thoughts/Outro: 16:50
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I liked the ragnarok and black winter the most. Atlas and black heaven were a bit too nasal for my taste. D activator not enough in the mids and too much highs. Thanks for the comparison.
Here it is.
What a great vid and dedication as it’s not that easy to swap pickups in and out. Good effort for the channel for sure.
Isolated High Gain Riffs
*1st Riff*
BKP Ragnarok: 9:18
Guitarmory Atlas: 9:40
Lundgren Black Heaven: 10:02
Seymour Duncan Black Winter: 10:25
DiMarzio D Activator: 10:48
*2nd Riff*
BKP Ragnarok: 11:10
Guitarmory Atlas: 11:50
Lundgren Black Heaven: 12:30
Seymour Duncan Black Winter: 13:10
DiMarzio D Activator: 13:50
Great comparison. Such clean production too, man. Really love your channel
Palm Mute Riff
BKP Ragnarok: 11:35
Guitarmory Atlas: 12:15
Lundgren Black Heaven: 12:55
Seymour Duncan Black Winter: 13:35
DiMarzio D Activator: 14:15
Thanks the DiMarzio wins for me 🔥🔊🤘
This my fav metal channel on youtube, love the content!
Thanks, man, much appreciated \m/
I'm glad you mentioned pickups altering pinch harmonics. I used to think that I was incapable of performing a proper PH until I played a completely different rig and they sounded great. I was certain it was either my preamp or my pickups. I replaced my aging Korg AX1G with with an Ampero II (which helped a lot) and pickups are next.
i don't mind a pickup that has a thicker low end because then you can carve it out in the eq to your liking vs a already tight pickup that you have to add depth and bass to not make it sound thin. That's more work IMO. I got a DiMarzio Dreamcatcher - it is clear and fast in pick response but it's fat in the bass but nothing a boost or an eq can't handle.
I like the og DiMarzio Super Distortion bridge pickup. It's thick and chunky but has a clear and fast attack. I hate trebley pickups.
Awesome Demo riffs! The Lundgren and the Guitarmory had a really nice grind in the mix. I really liked the range of the BKP’s. The chunk and chug of the black winters was great. But, to be fair I am pretty biased toward SD and BKP. I just put black winter blackened set in my Jazzmaster and painkiller in my KM-7.
To me the DiMarzio was a little weak.
Thanks for the comparison and great work on the video!
Loved this!
Thanks for showing how they sound thru a crunch amp.
Very cool video, one of few pickup comparisons with same guitar! This is the only way!
Great work man!!!!!!
Thanks, and same to you, really liked the atlas and was surprised at how balanced and smooth it is.
All Good pickups. Ragnarok and Atlas have really nice definition and range. Cut through mix and Heavy. Each brings something to the table. I consider Wood types, Fretboard material, Note definition, Chords, etc.Omega ! Lundgren's are good across the board.
Yoo so I was looking at this older mayones model with the guitarmory atlas pickups. I checked the mayones site and they had all the newer models with bareknuckle pickups. I never used the atlas pickups before and was really looking for a comparison video specifically between those two so this video really helped me and now I feel more confident to buy this guitar with the guitarmory atlas pickups 🙏 thanks man
I love the disclaimer at the intro. That’s what a lot of people don’t get these days.
your feel with your left hand is amazing. just thought you should know.
Thank you so much, that's really cool of you to say
Sick riffs
Great video 👍
Thank you very much for this great video! These humbuckers sound really great. The Ragnarok, Black Winter and the Black Heaven Lundgren are my favorites. I was surprised about the Guitarmory humbucker, it sounds really good. In the bridge position they sound all wonderful. The Dimarzio was also not bad sounding. I'm still looking for a good humbucker in the neck position that has enough clarity for my baritone. I have a ml1 modern storm burst baritone from Chapman and I'm not happy with the Sentient Seymoure Duncan humbucker in the neck position. It's too dark and has not the clarity I need. What could you recommend for the neck position in my case? I was thinking about the Rebell Yell humbucker from Bare Knuckle, it has less bass and more midds and highs in the sound. I'm not sure, if I use a set of Lundgren Black Heaven or the Black Winter from Seymoure Duncan, that the neck pickups sounding better as the Sentient...
My favorite neck pickup is the sentient, tbh
And for 1st riff i am like the DiMarzio D Activator
@ 10:47 (the way it has push with grind on the power chord & edge) 10:02 black heaven lundgren
And for 2nd riff i am like the Lundgren Black Heaven
@ 12:30 (the way it tracks on the double picking sounds like wings and it's bright edge)
13:49 DActivator.
I was impressed how the black heaven sounds clean, I was expecting more fuzz.
04:03 ragnarok
04:48 black heaven
05:15 black winter
05:33 d activator
05:55 ragnarok
07:15 black heaven
07:56 black winter
08:35 d activator
09:18 ragnarok
10:03 black heaven
10:25 black winter
10:47 d activator
11:10 ragnarok
12:30 black heaven
13:10 black winter
13:50 d activator
14:30 ragnarok
14:55 black heaven
15:08 black winter
15:21 d activator
15:35 ragnarok
16:05 black heaven
16:20 black winter
16:35 d activator
lol. so you dont like Guitarmory Atlas.
I have the Dimarzio D activator and agree with you, I find it muddy, and hard to work with mids in the wrong place etc, I find this with most dimarzio's I've tried.
Yeah I just haven't really gotten along with a lot of DiMarzios. I like the illuminator, but so far, that's about it, as far as more modern higher output pickups are concerned.
I have a guitar with dactivator in B tuning, i use Laboga hector 100watts tube head and 2x12 NOS cab in V30. This is the tightest humbucker I’ve ever seen since 81. Not the best grain but surely one of the most tight.
I suggest you to try DiMarizio Titans. It has more beef and groul than the DActivators as for my taste at least. Super useful video! Thank's a lot.
I have in the past. I wasn't hugely into them, tbh but I may need to revisit them.
@@MetalHeadProductions I know this is late but I've got guitarmory atlas, lundgren m7, kieth merrow Fishmans, and titans in 7 strings. I've got guitarmory Orion coming to replace the titans with either the atlas or Orion. Titans sound cool but they're crap in a mix I liked them at first but I'm over them after the atlas and lundgren
Atlas pickups aren't as smooth as lundgren in the mix, for me lundgren m7 is just perfect for tracking, but tbh the atlas pickup live/ jamming on an amp is the most amazingly brutal(but the note clarity is still crazy) sound I've ever gotten. And the neck pickup is like freaking butter
I am currently using an Atlas on my 7 string guitar. There is not enough purr when playing palm mutes or djent riff. Is going for the Lundgreen M7 a good idea?
Oh yeah, love the m7, kinda no other pickups like it. Definitely will have that chunk you're looking for.
Great video! If you had to choose for a 7 string, Ragnarok, M7 or Black Heaven, which would you pick?
Hard to say, I'd probably be torn between the m7 and Ragnarok, although I am really loving the m7 and think it's one of the best pickups ever made.
if you can check out the polymath from bare knuckle. great pickup
I have wanted to check out that and the silo
Personally I used to love the Dactivator 7 when I had it. However, with some amps I did notice that it managed to sound scratchy and fat at the same time... no easy feat lol
Yeah that's how I feel this sounds, haha
I love my D-activators, I can't hear a big enough difference to justify swapping to any of the other pickups, maybe if I have the time or money I'll give it a go
Glad you dig yours. For me there was a bit too much on the low-end and they were fighting me a bit to get the sound I want.
@@MetalHeadProductions thanks, I havent been able to try any of the others yet and I think you have great judgement when it comes to these things. I really enjoy your thoughts and analyses
The Ragnaroks seem the most bold of the group. Not saying they're my favorite but they sound different from the rest.
Man this is making the choice for pickups even harder now for me. Been shopping around for a humbucker set for an LTD EC1000 for a few months now. I play in a slamming brutal death band so I need the chugs and mid range cut. I was leaning towards the D Activators but now not so sure. I have another LTD EC1000 with Black Winter set and love it. Just wanted something different.
Ragnarok slams for sure and I really dig the tightness of the black heaven.
dude i like the nazguls myself if u wanna do death metal
+Nick Harper - Have you messed with actives much? If you have multiple guitars I'd definitely recommend at least having one guitar with Fishmans or an EMG 81 in the bridge.
I have a plethora of pickups (Fishmans, EMGs, Lundgren, Dimarzio, Duncans) and at the end of the day I always end up preferring a guitar with actives for that nasty stuff.
I've yet to find a pickup that can do it all, so why not just collect them all so I got the right pickup for the right occasion.
@@Owlun I am actually trying to get an EMG 81/85 set out of this LTD EC1000 currently. I cannot say I am a fan of EMG pickups whether active or passive. I admittedly have not got to tryout any Fishmen pickups yet so I'd like to give those a go.
@@nickharper8145 What sound are you looking for? I like the Fishman pickups, but if you don't like the active sound you won't like them either. They're crushing for distorted tones, but if you need a pup that's going to do nice cleans, I'd skip the Fishman pups.
I had the black winter and hated it so bad. I read how versatile it is but i just couldnt gel with it at all. I would cut gain, try the tone knob and once it was okay iwould lose all the tone and harmonics. I wonder if i had a fake? Only pups i just couldnt rip out fast enough
Wow that's crazy, black winter is one of my absolute favorites. Great cut, really is very versatile. Idk if you got a fake or if the pickup was damaged or not wired correctly but you shouldn't have had all those issues.
Dactivator lack of presence on all my guitar with 5150, bugera 6262 and laboga hector. Jackson stock pickup made by belcat have more clarity, presence and more bite. Ragnarok seems to have so much presence.
Give the crunchlab some love too
Those are cool,.I actually prefer the illuminators to those though. Way more smooth and balanced, but in general I'm not a DiMarzio guy.
There was another youtuber who made a recent video about how different pickups didn't really matter for your tone in a mix. There's no need to spend extra cash on more expensive pickups and just go with the cheaper ones. While it's true, most metal pickups are similar to their sound. To me, personally, it matters down to every detail. The price of pickups do matter to me, but if it gets me even 10% closer to my ideal tone spending the extra $$$ is worth every penny.
I know the video, and while he's right about the final mix, but it does matter to how everything plays and feels to play for sure. If it's not right for me, it gets in the way of my playing 100%
@MetalHeadProductions Completely agree.... As we all know, speakers/cab choice has the greatest effect on tone... The pickups, preamp tubes etc may be a minor difference. But, it's how those minor differences add up when applied with a major tone shaper like speakers that really help you get your desired tone. And yes, thank you for hitting on that point.... It's not just how it sounds, but how it feels and responds that takes playing to another level and gives you an inspiring tone to write with.
Dang! I have D Activators in my Alex Wade ltd 7 string lol. This video proved my suspicions. Things are gonna change around here;)
I was thinking Ragnaroks before this vid. But now and surprisingly, the Black winters are on my radar for sure. I’ve been using a Seymour Duncan SH-6 Bridge and Jazz 3 neck on my first 7 string for years. I replaced the EMGs 81/85 type and it greatly improved string clarity and tightened everything up.
Although, I love my 81/85 set in my 87 Les Paul Custom. Just sounds good. The clean neck is a little bassy though.
Black winters are some of my absolute favorite pickups, I currently have them in two guitars and I don't think I've had a guitar without them for over half a decade now.
That D Activator tho
Great video. What kind of guitar is that?
Solar t series, it's rad
How is the build quality on that solar t style?
I have done a video on this and my other solar guitar and they quality new and over time. Great guitars, super solid, decent quality, plays well.
the BK Ragnarok ufff, amazing pickups, the SD BW was a surpreice me, I thought that SD BK will sound horrible, but not, is ok
I have a question in regards to pickup comparison videos on youtube. Why do so many comparison videos I watch I hear almost no difference between pickups but with Keith Merrows seymour duncan comparison videos I notice super massive differences between pickups even on phone speakers? I definitely noticed more of a difference with crunch in your video and I love your channel by the way.
I go into that in the video, the amp, speakers, cab, mic and mic placement all have the biggest impact on the sound and when keep everything but the pickups the same, the differences will be less overt. I do do out of mixes with high gain, overdrive and cleans to really show the differences, and you can especially hear them on the overdrive and clean tones, so I'm glad that helped you hear the differencees more clearly.
I can't speak to why Keith's would show larger differences.
Probably just the differences in tone helps poke out the difference in pickups, Keith uses a clearer, less saturated tone than this vid does. So my best bet would be just the amount and sound of the gain being applied is what affects the guitar tone the most, the less amp gain and character you add the more the pickups will sound different. That’s my hypothesis at least for that.
@@ejw3006 I do use lower gain and clean settings as well in the video, and those are only more clear out of the mix.
@@MetalHeadProductions yeah wasn’t saying anything against the vid I was just saying it’s easier to hear the difference, I was referring to Merrow cause he usually does only high gain without cleans and such
@@MetalHeadProductions also quick question, have you played the M series stuff as well? What’s the big difference between those and the Black Heavens, all I know is they’re based off the M stuff which I already love so I’m just wondering how they compare if I put the BH over the M6 in my 6
Black Heavens are Alnico or Ceramic?
All the pickups in the video are ceramic
I have a Schecter C-1 Blackjack loaded with Lundgren M6 but can't seem to dial in the tone I want for my Black Metal project, I need clarity in higher strings when doing open E drone chords and power chords. Suggestions?
Those definitely should be clear. Perhaps it's your amp and speakers that are the issue, or maybe you need a boost or EQ for the amp.
Only question that matters, what would Dime choose?
Iove dime, but not really. His tone, well, it certainly was fitting for the time, but the way he got his tone was way different than plugging you're guitar into an amp or boost, plus, we've come a long way with high output passive pickups since Dime's day.
Didn't he have the dimebucker by seymour duncan? I agree with the comment from metalhead productions, we've come along way with pickups, we have better options out now.
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What amp
I used a couple of amps and I go over that in the video. High gain tones done with my EVH stealth 50 and the crunch and cleans tones were done with my Friedman BE50
Oops missed that part lol
@@illuminatibraincontrol its all good
Seymour Duncan's Alternative 8 is the best High output pickup.
All the same to me
go listen to the out of mix portions, especially the mid gain and clean tones. the differences are much clearer.
bareknucle seems to be very expensive for not much.
I personally really like the pickups. They feel really good and play on and get the output I want. I was won over by the Ragnarok and Warpigs.