True that. They did a race against Ariel Atom with Panamera Turbo S, and by the numbers it's far quicker than the S63. So the winner after all is Porsche in this luxury car segment.
Indeed Sir. A like for you! Plus, it's not really fair saying the 4WD is a plus. That means there's more gearing between the engine crank and final power delivery to the wheels. On a rally stage where all you do is dash between corners it's all fine, but in a normal drag on tarmac you don't get the same benefit..
I have to agree that on the long way AWD is worse (except WRC stages xD), but for just simple light to light acceleration it is better ;D I'm mean 500m max races ;) But unfortunately guys from autocar, evo, mototrend etc. have really bad habit in choosing wrong cars for those comparisons/drag races...
Brunlera i have a 1.5jz sc300 on pump i make 505rwp and 490 ish ft/tq my buddy has the same car with a regular 1jz with 2.5 liters. with same turbo setup makes 500rwp and 390 ish ft/tq and I win 95% of our races. Horsepower sell cars, Torque wins races
now this one was pointless.. you guys could have put the merc- ML63 AMG vs the cayenne turbo S ..not the S 63 sedan ...now that would have been a better fight..
I think all the haters are missing the point. The so called 'experts' that claimed they knew the outcome ...still clicked. If you knew the answer then you didn't need to click. Just because the outcome was obvious to most, doesn't make it a rubbish video. We were all slightly intrigued - hence the click. And yes, the cars are a show of profligacy, but they intend to divide opinions and that's a good thing. It makes them interesting. Interesting is GOOD. Interesting is better than mediocrity. Not everything has to have a 'point'. Pointless is a non-comment. The world needs MORE interesting things that divide opinion. I would buy neither even if I had the money... but is interesting watching and reading the comments;-)
J0lker Maybe it reminds a bit the laguna but I could live with that :) For me the s class coupè is the best stylish autonabahn monster. And if you can afford it you can also buy a speciale/gt3 for track an b roads.
J0lker Maybe it reminds a bit the laguna but I could live with that :) For me the s class coupè is the best stylish autonabahn monster. And if you can afford it you can also buy a speciale/gt3 for track an b roads.
s63 amaizing car but this battle was unfear. they should put, cars like: Audi S8, BMW 7 series M, or maybe porshe panamera turbo S, but not SUV Cayanne.
People who say that this dragrace is nonsense,because its a s class amg and a cayenne turbo s,both very differet cars,but look at all they're drag battles,none of them seems to be right in some kinda way,but thats what they said at evo! They do just because they want to see whats faster,its cool to put 2 vert different cars together,and see what the outcome is :-) every petrolhead should just like everything that does a dragrace,whatever the cars,and that's the meaning of the drag battles video's! Grtz
Why does not it surprise me? Both cars are overkill in the US. We have 75 mph speed limit. But no one can take away the fun of acceleration of 550 horse car. It fishtails at 60-70 mph. It is an ultimate thrill. Thank you for the video!
You might as well race a Scania 730 hp V8, against a Ariel Atom 507 hp V8. Both V8s with lots of horsepower, but not really comparable are they? This is great for the noise, but completely nonsense.
Am I the only one around here who thinks that neither one of these cars should really exist? Yes I know it is quite exciting to have a racy version of a big everyday car but here is my problem: If I'd buy an S class, I'd buy it because it is really comfortable and a piece of pure luxury. Making a hard and sporty version of that kind of ruins the purpose of an S class for me. And as for the Cayenne: They put a really awesome motor into this thing but be honest. If you were to buy it you would constantly wonder how fast this car would really be if it was not unnecessarily huge and heavy. You'd just enjoy that engine way more in a smaller and lighter car, wouldn't you?
lifehacker123 These 2 cars exists for a very very great reasons and they are as follows below : S 63 AMG : A person who has a family or needs room for friends defiantly needs a salon car, And if that person was a gear head and wanted something very powerful and exciting and also is one of the best quality cars is defiantly going for the S-Class not forgetting it safety and technology. If that person by any means could afford an S 63 i am 75% sure he would have a sports coupe for his personal enjoyment. Cayenne Turbo S : This SUV is ridiculously amazing because as an SUV where you can beat numerous sports cars in drag race and still have the advantage of off roading and i am not saying it's the best off road car, But you still get out alive. And again a Porsche so heritage & quality is sublime. Cayenne is the biggest hit for Porsche & trust me they would laugh at anyone saying this is useless after seeing their sales figures ;)
Those cars are marketing products. They exist just to sell amg style pack, or cayenne diesel with a s pack. Porsche and mercedes press services will always put the extreme version in the light. Most of people will think that all cayenne and s class are v8 monsters, only petrolheads will see the differences. Marketers are liars..
***** Yes but still I think the sportiness of an AMG S class would kind of ruin the luxury experience for me personally. I get that sometimes it can be safer to have a fast car, but I wouldn't be too comfortable in such an S class. I want it to massage me because it has massaging seats and not because I can feel the bumps on the street since it has been fitted with stiffer shock absorbers. Just like someone above me already said: They are trying to be two cars at once and I don't think that it would make me personally happy. I have nothing against you if you like those cars but yeah. It is certainly a point of criticism for me.
Doesn't have a launch control system? If the merc pulls away with no wheel spin with your foot flat on the gas after building the revs with the brake engaged at the same time = launch control
Why is everone complaining, who cares if you don't like it or would rather see a Nissan Micra vs a Honda Jazz. I love seeing the mixed class runs on here, you will not see them anywhere else
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?!?! You should compare an SUV with another SUV!!! And a Saloon with another Saloon!! The Cayenne Turbo S should be compared with an ML63 or an X5 M.
Well of course the Cayenne lost, it might have similair performance, but it has aerodynamic properties of a house. A fair comparison would be the S63 vs Panamera Turbo S.
This is the perfect example of "cocking about" while still doing your job. - What do you want to do next week at work John? - I don't know Steve, we could just go to an airfield and drag race the least sporty car types on the planet. Ring up Merc and Porsche and see what they've got. - Yeah ok. Love it.
I don't mind the apples vs oranges tests because they're still kinda fun but honestly you guys should be doing more like-for-like tests and even some same-brand stuff. (Merc SL65 vs SLS AMG GT?) Also let's get some three-way tests done. Huracan vs 650s vs 458 Speciale, please. :)
Why would you put a truck against a car with way more bhp and torque...what was this challenge suppose to prove...even if they were both the exact same weight and power the car would win do to better aerodynamics.
i've been thinking about a decent battle between the 911 turbos S and the Jaguar F type coupé version given the fact that this issue hasn't been correctly dealt with with other car magazines, in fact they put face to face a simple 911 unturboed and that notorious jaguar ( the porsche won that battle) Thank u for the videos u uploaded especially the video quality
I like the S63 and its a great limo for 2-4 people. But for a family of 3-8, GL63 will be the sub for the S63 since the GL chassis is based from the S-Class. I like the Cayenne and its quick, but not as spacious as the GL.
Why do I get the feeling that someone simply did not show up when you had the airstrip reserved and you had to make up something? SUV vs any sedan or coupe just means nothing, unless it's buddies in a grudge match.
The noise of German V8s sometimes don't really come through very well on video. It sounds kind of farty and flappy. I guess it's just the mic quality on the stick-on cameras.
Cayenne turbo s appeals too those young dads who want needs the practicality of a mid size SUV but wants to the feel & handling of a sports saloon when on a free open road...... Cayenne diesel s/turbo(s)/gts Range rover sport sdv8/supercharged ML 550 4matic / 63amg Hell, even the smaller audi SQ5 does it 4 us The x5 does not count. Driven the 2013 4.4 v8. Tho it handles well, it's lazy to give you it's power. Have never driven a jeep, much less the srt8 version....but I'd figure that would work in the lineup aswell Either way, opinion........ :p
Well sorry, but that was a stupid test...
ML63 vs. Cayenne Turbo S, fair enough but S63 vs. Panamera Turbo S would be more in place here...
I agree!
totally true
True that. They did a race against Ariel Atom with Panamera Turbo S, and by the numbers it's far quicker than the S63. So the winner after all is Porsche in this luxury car segment.
Indeed Sir. A like for you! Plus, it's not really fair saying the 4WD is a plus. That means there's more gearing between the engine crank and final power delivery to the wheels. On a rally stage where all you do is dash between corners it's all fine, but in a normal drag on tarmac you don't get the same benefit..
I have to agree that on the long way AWD is worse (except WRC stages xD), but for just simple light to light acceleration it is better ;D I'm mean 500m max races ;)
But unfortunately guys from autocar, evo, mototrend etc. have really bad habit in choosing wrong cars for those comparisons/drag races...
I love the way the new S-Class looks, it just looks so nice and elegant with some super subtle hints of aggression with the AMG bodykit :)
torque is the key. horsepower shows your how far you get up there, and torque shows you how fast you get up there
the cayenne was supposed to win, the torque and hp ratio are equal which gives it maximum advantage...
Said the diesel and lost :(
Brunlera i have a 1.5jz sc300 on pump i make 505rwp and 490 ish ft/tq
my buddy has the same car with a regular 1jz with 2.5 liters. with same turbo setup makes 500rwp and 390 ish ft/tq and I win 95% of our races. Horsepower sell cars, Torque wins races
Okay, So a 700Bhp car with 400Lb Ft will lose to a 500Bhp car with 600LB Tq? lol Yeah right, Torque is only part of it.
Do people not understand that the purpose of these is take cars from 2 different classes and to see how they do?
now this one was pointless.. you guys could have put the merc- ML63 AMG vs the cayenne turbo S ..not the S 63 sedan ...now that would have been a better fight..
Great video thank you
I love drag races
Please keep posting this kind of videos
I think all the haters are missing the point. The so called 'experts' that claimed they knew the outcome ...still clicked. If you knew the answer then you didn't need to click. Just because the outcome was obvious to most, doesn't make it a rubbish video. We were all slightly intrigued - hence the click. And yes, the cars are a show of profligacy, but they intend to divide opinions and that's a good thing. It makes them interesting. Interesting is GOOD. Interesting is better than mediocrity. Not everything has to have a 'point'. Pointless is a non-comment. The world needs MORE interesting things that divide opinion. I would buy neither even if I had the money... but is interesting watching and reading the comments;-)
I'd like to see S63 vs Panamoomoo turbo S
panamera turbo s is too fast for the s63
Tha Panamera Turbo S will demolish the merc!!!
Actually its should be E 63 S AMG VS panamera turbo s
Panamera is too slow for Merc ((
ryan saab hmmm, NO!!
Great video, I always wanted to see something absurd like this. But why keep switching from imperial to metric and vice verse?
s-class is the ultimative BOSS car especially if its amg or brabus
Ok, a good start, NOW lets try with Porsche GT3 vs Mercedes GL AMG !!!!!
Gosh that S63 AMG is one hell of a ROCKET LIMO. I think i want it.
What about the s clas coupè AMG? I love it
Federico Cimolini That is a perfect car if you want to travel by road from country to another.
Federico Cimolini it would be a perfect car... if only the rear ;s
Laguna coupe... wtf
J0lker Maybe it reminds a bit the laguna but I could live with that :) For me the s class coupè is the best stylish autonabahn monster.
And if you can afford it you can also buy a speciale/gt3 for track an b roads.
J0lker Maybe it reminds a bit the laguna but I could live with that :) For me the s class coupè is the best stylish autonabahn monster.
And if you can afford it you can also buy a speciale/gt3 for track an b roads.
s63 amaizing car but this battle was unfear. they should put, cars like: Audi S8, BMW 7 series M, or maybe porshe panamera turbo S, but not SUV Cayanne.
Love these two!
I'm disturbed by the lack of exhaust notes created by either car.
People who say that this dragrace is nonsense,because its a s class amg and a cayenne turbo s,both very differet cars,but look at all they're drag battles,none of them seems to be right in some kinda way,but thats what they said at evo! They do just because they want to see whats faster,its cool to put 2 vert different cars together,and see what the outcome is :-) every petrolhead should just like everything that does a dragrace,whatever the cars,and that's the meaning of the drag battles video's!
Grtz
M63 AMG vs Cayenne Turbo S and S63 AMG vs Panamera Turbo S.
Not what you done! Pointless Battle!
can someone tell me how does long wheelbase increase traction for S63 AMG ??
Nice how it just went in!!
Why does not it surprise me? Both cars are overkill in the US. We have 75 mph speed limit. But no one can take away the fun of acceleration of 550 horse car. It fishtails at 60-70 mph. It is an ultimate thrill. Thank you for the video!
A sedan with more power and less weight beats an SUV with less power and more weight. In the annals of time, who woulda thunk it.
You might as well race a Scania 730 hp V8, against a Ariel Atom 507 hp V8. Both V8s with lots of horsepower, but not really comparable are they? This is great for the noise, but completely nonsense.
Good job .. fan from Saudi Arabia ..
Am I the only one around here who thinks that neither one of these cars should really exist? Yes I know it is quite exciting to have a racy version of a big everyday car but here is my problem:
If I'd buy an S class, I'd buy it because it is really comfortable and a piece of pure luxury. Making a hard and sporty version of that kind of ruins the purpose of an S class for me.
And as for the Cayenne: They put a really awesome motor into this thing but be honest. If you were to buy it you would constantly wonder how fast this car would really be if it was not unnecessarily huge and heavy. You'd just enjoy that engine way more in a smaller and lighter car, wouldn't you?
Nah, these cars are insane, and gearheads love insane!
RScars
Well I love cars as well but I just think that they could be even more insane if they just were not so huge and heavy.
lifehacker123 These 2 cars exists for a very very great reasons and they are as follows below :
S 63 AMG :
A person who has a family or needs room for friends defiantly needs a salon car, And if that person was a gear head and wanted something very powerful and exciting and also is one of the best quality cars is defiantly going for the S-Class not forgetting it safety and technology. If that person by any means could afford an S 63 i am 75% sure he would have a sports coupe for his personal enjoyment.
Cayenne Turbo S :
This SUV is ridiculously amazing because as an SUV where you can beat numerous sports cars in drag race and still have the advantage of off roading and i am not saying it's the best off road car, But you still get out alive. And again a Porsche so heritage & quality is sublime. Cayenne is the biggest hit for Porsche & trust me they would laugh at anyone saying this is useless after seeing their sales figures ;)
Those cars are marketing products. They exist just to sell amg style pack, or cayenne diesel with a s pack.
Porsche and mercedes press services will always put the extreme version in the light.
Most of people will think that all cayenne and s class are v8 monsters, only petrolheads will see the differences.
Marketers are liars..
*****
Yes but still I think the sportiness of an AMG S class would kind of ruin the luxury experience for me personally. I get that sometimes it can be safer to have a fast car, but I wouldn't be too comfortable in such an S class. I want it to massage me because it has massaging seats and not because I can feel the bumps on the street since it has been fitted with stiffer shock absorbers.
Just like someone above me already said: They are trying to be two cars at once and I don't think that it would make me personally happy. I have nothing against you if you like those cars but yeah. It is certainly a point of criticism for me.
Both please!
The S63 is just gorgeous. The Cayenne is still a good car, but I like the S63 more.
its more expensive too
givemeabloodyuser gv True, but both will become affordable in a few years.
Was expecting the Merc to sit there and burn its tyres to shreds
Music? pleeeease
You guys should do this Cayenne vs GL63
Even with the S63 being the monster that it is, I still prefer the Cayenne. The Cayenne is truly a beauty 😍 .
I've never heard anyone call a Cayenne a "true beauty" before.
Cayenne is hideous
Interesting race. Similar price bracket and with that view competitors.
All these drag battles have cars that aren't competing or even in the same class of car. I would rather watch individual reviews of both cars.
music used?!
Doesn't have a launch control system? If the merc pulls away with no wheel spin with your foot flat on the gas after building the revs with the brake engaged at the same time = launch control
Why is everone complaining, who cares if you don't like it or would rather see a Nissan Micra vs a Honda Jazz.
I love seeing the mixed class runs on here, you will not see them anywhere else
sometimes it's fun to compare two cars that are completely diff. just dont take it too seriously
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?!?!
You should compare an SUV with another SUV!!!
And a Saloon with another Saloon!!
The Cayenne Turbo S should be compared with an ML63 or an X5 M.
does the S63 have AWD?
why not against the Rs6?
Well of course the Cayenne lost, it might have similair performance, but it has aerodynamic properties of a house. A fair comparison would be the S63 vs Panamera Turbo S.
This is the perfect example of "cocking about" while still doing your job.
- What do you want to do next week at work John?
- I don't know Steve, we could just go to an airfield and drag race the least sporty car types on the planet. Ring up Merc and Porsche and see what they've got.
- Yeah ok.
Love it.
Why not with Panamera?
S63 AMG vs Panamera Turbo S Executive please!
I don't mind the apples vs oranges tests because they're still kinda fun but honestly you guys should be doing more like-for-like tests and even some same-brand stuff. (Merc SL65 vs SLS AMG GT?)
Also let's get some three-way tests done. Huracan vs 650s vs 458 Speciale, please. :)
Ooooo shoes without socks. Very Bob Geldof
Why people thumps down this? No better video can be made.
Why would you ever compare these vehicles. How about the Porsche Panamera Turbo as a challenger?
Because the Panamera turbo s will win.
Next week they compare the space shuttle to an aircraft carrier
I would love to see the new S65 :D
Why would you put a truck against a car with way more bhp and torque...what was this challenge suppose to prove...even if they were both the exact same weight and power the car would win do to better aerodynamics.
i've been thinking about a decent battle between the 911 turbos S and the Jaguar F type coupé version given the fact that this issue hasn't been correctly dealt with with other car magazines, in fact they put face to face a simple 911 unturboed and that notorious jaguar ( the porsche won that battle) Thank u for the videos u uploaded especially the video quality
the more powerful, expensive, lighter car wins
Is it just me or did someone thought that the Merc's V8 sounded like a Messerschmitt me 109!!!
one is built solely for the road, the other is built for both on and off road purpose. maybe next time drag race in the mountains to make it even.
I like the S63 and its a great limo for 2-4 people. But for a family of 3-8, GL63 will be the sub for the S63 since the GL chassis is based from the S-Class. I like the Cayenne and its quick, but not as spacious as the GL.
this is only a battle of the heavy weights if you're talking about their literal weight
Damn, they finally made the Cayenne fast. Time to put a bigger turbo on my STI
I'd like Porsche Cayenne turbo S vs ML 63 AMG...Same class...
Even if you had money why would you buy a Cayenne turbo S to spend most of your time in a Petrol station
The lighter and more powerful car won a 1km drag race?
No way!
Why did they not share the 0-60 time of the 3-4 times cheaper Caterham?
Sure looks like the 7 was faster for the first 5-6 seconds...
I don't understand you evo... Surely you'd put it against the pan turbo s or the merc m class amg
Hehe, gives new meaning to the term drag race... looks like the Cayenne had more than it's fair share of "drag" to deal with..
so my dad is looking for a new car I'm trying to get him to buy a mercades c63 but he prefers the porsche panamera could anyone give their opinion ?
The s63 is epic. I am not sure why these two had to go head to head...but i guess its amusing.
The Porsche didn't do too bad considering it has the same frontal area as a barn door.
Love these dags, but for god sake get some actual rivals, cars that are built to actually compete against each other in the market!
id buy both of these when i win the ca lottery :)
m6 gran coupe vs cls63 or panamera turbo/gts
Why do I get the feeling that someone simply did not show up when you had the airstrip reserved and you had to make up something? SUV vs any sedan or coupe just means nothing, unless it's buddies in a grudge match.
The noise of German V8s sometimes don't really come through very well on video. It sounds kind of farty and flappy. I guess it's just the mic quality on the stick-on cameras.
Gosh... Who organizes these battles?? Really Evo?
"cayenne is the peoples car" I laughed way to hard at that
if you'd bother to compare s63amg (with awd) with panamera turbo s,
the comparison would make much more sense...
The 4 matic s63 mag would do a lot better, y didn't u guys use it?!
the Rear wheel drive s63AMG is way ahead...imagine countries that only gets all wheel drive version of the s63 AMG
It's not like the outcome was surprising, now is it?... I mean, one's structure is like a boat and the other like the empire state building.
ok lets test and all wheel drive Honda CRV ve toyota corolla s next…..
Cayenne turbo s appeals too those young dads who want needs the practicality of a mid size SUV but wants to the feel & handling of a sports saloon when on a free open road......
Cayenne diesel s/turbo(s)/gts
Range rover sport sdv8/supercharged
ML 550 4matic / 63amg
Hell, even the smaller audi SQ5 does it 4 us
The x5 does not count. Driven the 2013 4.4 v8. Tho it handles well, it's lazy to give you it's power.
Have never driven a jeep, much less the srt8 version....but I'd figure that would work in the lineup aswell
Either way, opinion........ :p
sedan luxury vs SUV?!? wtf?!?!
Weird that you're comparing cars in completely different classes - why not compare an AMG G, M or GLK class?
Since when do only brits get the good MErcs and we in Europe get that with 4 matic ?
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL THAT MERC MERKED THE PORSCHE XD
The s class competes with panamera turbo s and or S8
S 63 amg vs Panamera Turbo s
PLEASE PICK BETTER "DRAG BATTLES" IF YOU CAN'T, MESSAGE ME AND I WILL HELP YOU GUYS!
What's the point of this drag race?
this guys voice is like audible chocolate
4.1 for the Cayenne???? Holy crap
There's no replacement for displacement ! love the S63 !
The Benz did not impress me at all! Respect to the Cayenne Turbo S!
والله البورش كايين خيااال
Funny that a 1990 Lotus Omega with about 377bhp from a 3.6L twin turbo is only 0.6s slower than that Merc from 0-100kp/h.
Soulware3D Funny that the Merc is a lot heavier and a lot more luxurious
Umar Khan no doubt, i was just referring to the age gap. the old Lotus is 25 years old now
The Germans know who to build cars...
I wish a Video with a Mercedes c63 AMG 507 Edition this car is soo awesome *__*
W222
nice shoes
Close the windows when you'redoing a drag race
"S65 AMG IS WHERE IM @"
SUV vs seden are you kidding, aero dynamic is different as well
Newest S63 vs a older Cayenne? Common guys. Why do you don’t use a new Cayenne?