I learned through playing this general specifically that if you build your deck around your general's unique ability, without putting in similar cards to reinforce your strategy, eventually people will just start singling out your commander. I run like 4 additional spell reduction permanents for that very reason. I also stopped using lightning bolt, as it's just blah without the combo. Instead I use searing touch. Still fetchable with Firemind's Foresight. Still costs R. Still an instant.
One of my favorite things about Mizzix decks is that can be build to win in so many different ways. I've seen so many different versions of Mizzix decks! Mizzix is so fun too when you get your combos going!
Have you ever seen one win that focuses on taking opposing creatures? Thusly being an aggro deck with spells? I've been tinkering with the idea myself but have been hesitant to try it out.
I think my favourite win of all times was when my friend was running a storm deck, he had 11 lands and thousand year storm with 3 bonus rounds cast from it, ended up getting a storm count of like 8 or something from cantrips and cast turnabout just tapping all of his lands in response to each copy they recured it for another 9 uses and just won the game from a huge fireball
something neat you can do is stack triggers on mizzix. if i cast ponder the stack looks like Mizzix trigger Ponder with ponder resolving before the trigger. in response to the trigger I can cast an instant like brainstorm, and since I don't have any experience counters yet mizzix goes off again. now the stack looks like Mizzix trigger Ponder Mizzix Trigger Brainstorm you can stack any number of instants like this and every one gets you a counter, leading to easy explosive plays early in the game
@@Xdylan3131 oh God it's been 2 years sorry for an incredibly late reply. This works but only if the second spell you're casting is an instant. The first spell puts a mizzix trigger on the stack and you haven't gotten any experience yet. While that mizzix trigger is on the stack you can cast an instant of the same cost as the previous spell and since the first mizzix trigger hasn't given experience yet you're still low enough to get another mizzix trigger. You can repeat this as many times as you have mana and instants.
I'm new to Commander and running a Mizzix deck. Running Mizzix without counters is a risky idea because often times unless your deck has more money in it, an enemy can achieve their win conditions much faster than you. Holding back dangerous cards until you have 4 exp counters can save a Mizzix deck until they go infinite.
serious feedback here: your videos are awesome and well constructed. just love em. the decklists on tappedout u create on the other hand ... It would actually be great if you sort the cards there after their function. Just like you do in your videos. Sort them after control/ removal, Ramp, Winconditions. Whatever it is you construct your imformative videos, do that as well in your decklists. cheers and keep up the good work. =)
Instead of using rituals I use Reality Spasm. Tap your lands for mana and play Spasm to untap them, while its on the stack Reiterate it a couple of times and tap your lands inbetween Spasms. This also works untapping stuff like Pyromancers goggles.
an older card a lot of players miss is spell burst, in a mizzix deck, it says "u, counter target spell, return this card to your hand", this card can singlehandedly win the game.
I absolutely love every bit of your videos and have been catching up on the backlog, watching your earlier content. I look forward to more gameplays! I'd love to see a deck tech for a Zurgo Helmsmasher voltron build! My meta is not as competitive as yours I think so land destruction-lite but I know you'd do a great job! Keep up the quality content and hope for an update soon!
Thank you for the kind words! I post a new video every Monday at 11am EST - tomorrow will be another 4 player EDH game. I'll add Zurgo to the list! I'd had a Zurgo list a while back when I was going to make an EDH deck for each color possibility, but I've since scrapped it. This would be a fun way to look back on what I was building.
Fantastic, I'll be refreshing my page around then! If I can put my two cents, I definitely prefer the multiplayer content; it's more fun EDH experience even if just 3 players. And sweet! I can't wait to see what you brew!
I've also seen a version of Mizzix that primarily wins with Epic Experiment, and I was wondering if we could see some sequels to this particular commander?
I use a Mizzix Commander deck with only 2 counterspells, a normal 3 mana counter spell and a Counterflux, I run a lot of combos in it so I won’t shed a tear if one or two gets countered, the deck is pretty effective and I haven’t met many people that have been able to beat it So yeah I think it is fine not having many counters with your Mizzix deck
Love the video but I do have some opinions. I've been playing Mizzix for almost a year now and I don't run lightning bolt anymore. Why? Because the combo itself has alot more cards that can go into the combo. except for reiterate, the combo can have multiple cards serve the same function as other cards. For example, any card that can untap at least 2 lands can go infinite with reiterate and mizzix. Just having infinite storm triggers can be an easy win. I guess what I'm trying to get at is that I think the video could've said a little more about how the combo works and not just have cards that are only good for that combo, I'm mostly just talking about lightning bolt.
Well, I think what you bring up is a great expansion. My experience with Mizzix is quite limited, so it's great to have feedback from someone with games behind them. I also try to keep my primers light. I don't want to go too heavily into everything, because I feel like part of the fun is often discovering these new elements while playing.
Perhaps boring, but Mizzux was the commander that made my Laboratory Maniac win the fastest. Enter the Infinite becomes so much better with this commander, and seeing my friends reaction to said spell + Alhammerret's Archive is priceless.
So wait, you cast one of the cards that add a bunch of red mana to your mana pool, then cast Reiterate with buyback, then recast Reiterate infinite times to copy whatever spell you used to add red mana to your mana pool. then do the same thing with Lightning Bolt?
I love spellslingers decks and Mizzix as a General, but my group is a bit anti-combo and I was wondering if Mizzix could also win without going infinite
You can win without going infinite for sure. You can do enter the infinite into inner fire or other mana stuff like mana geyser or brass bounty. You can do earthquake abilities to hit all opponents and yourself. You can do lots of x spells especially the new red one in war of the spark. You can do a huge epic experiment. You can use weird crap nobody uses like apex of power to pay 3 mana for 10 mana and draw 7 cards or insurrection to take all creatures on the board for a turn or mass manipulation. Laboratory maniac with blue draw and blue draw and discard and red draw and discard and wheel effects. You can copy x spells and big ones like searing wind cinderstorm a bunch
I dont run infinite combos in mine and mizzix just gets disgusting value which is absurd fun, if you can untap twice with mizzix then the game should be almost if not done that 2nd time, almost any spell that untaps lands is worth running imo
Hi, very good video. i played her a bit of a time. but i went to an other commander cause you will play mostly for yourself and the playgroup will be bored very quickly. kind regards from germany
Ok, i've been playing mizzix witg no counter spells for a minute, no fast mana aside from sol ring (tailismans, and signets still there) and i consistsntly win even at cedh tables because of how unassuming the deck is, i recently slotted in a singular counter spell (guardianship), but i def wouldnt reccomend mizzix for a casual pod if u build optimal decks
Just before sum1 says anything, im making it one of my cedh decks soon (probably going to make a cedh brago or yuriko) and i will be slotting fast mana and 15+ counters instead of fun cards, instead of having 3 burn spells having 1 with underworld breach brainfreeze bs
Whaaaat? no Mizzix mastery + sphinx bone wand combo? No one can actually get mad by dying to the bone wand. If you do you either don't play enough magic or you're a bad player. Bone wand is the most fair because its the most fragile.
MizziX!!!! There is an x at the end of Mizzix. Not a k. So annoying. Sorry just bothered me a fair bit. I did really like the video though sorry for being that guy.
He introduced Reiterate with "The most powerful buyback spell in the game."
So... why are we not talking about Capsize?
I like Capsize a lot, but it just sets an opponents board back. Reiterate is used in tandem with the combo kill (usually) and doesn't draw games out.
I learned through playing this general specifically that if you build your deck around your general's unique ability, without putting in similar cards to reinforce your strategy, eventually people will just start singling out your commander. I run like 4 additional spell reduction permanents for that very reason. I also stopped using lightning bolt, as it's just blah without the combo. Instead I use searing touch. Still fetchable with Firemind's Foresight. Still costs R. Still an instant.
One of my favorite things about Mizzix decks is that can be build to win in so many different ways. I've seen so many different versions of Mizzix decks! Mizzix is so fun too when you get your combos going!
Have you ever seen one win that focuses on taking opposing creatures? Thusly being an aggro deck with spells? I've been tinkering with the idea myself but have been hesitant to try it out.
No, I've never even seen one built like that. It sounds fun though. I do have a few cards in my deck that take control of opponent's permanents.
I think my favourite win of all times was when my friend was running a storm deck, he had 11 lands and thousand year storm with 3 bonus rounds cast from it, ended up getting a storm count of like 8 or something from cantrips and cast turnabout just tapping all of his lands in response to each copy they recured it for another 9 uses and just won the game from a huge fireball
something neat you can do is stack triggers on mizzix.
if i cast ponder the stack looks like
Mizzix trigger
Ponder
with ponder resolving before the trigger.
in response to the trigger I can cast an instant like brainstorm, and since I don't have any experience counters yet mizzix goes off again. now the stack looks like
Mizzix trigger
Ponder
Mizzix Trigger
Brainstorm
you can stack any number of instants like this and every one gets you a counter, leading to easy explosive plays early in the game
That's brutal - great tip!
Unfortunately this is wrong, if casting a spell triggers an ability, the ability goes on the stack on top of the spell
It may be wrong, but it works.
If you control both triggers you can choose there order on the stack? Source, Feather is one of my favorite edh decks
@@Xdylan3131 oh God it's been 2 years sorry for an incredibly late reply. This works but only if the second spell you're casting is an instant. The first spell puts a mizzix trigger on the stack and you haven't gotten any experience yet. While that mizzix trigger is on the stack you can cast an instant of the same cost as the previous spell and since the first mizzix trigger hasn't given experience yet you're still low enough to get another mizzix trigger. You can repeat this as many times as you have mana and instants.
Dont stop doing the fun commander videos love the games yall play and great commentary :D and ty for the deck lists and great ideas
Duelcaster mage also combos with any spell that copies a creature, for example rite of replication.
I'm new to Commander and running a Mizzix deck.
Running Mizzix without counters is a risky idea because often times unless your deck has more money in it, an enemy can achieve their win conditions much faster than you. Holding back dangerous cards until you have 4 exp counters can save a Mizzix deck until they go infinite.
Great suggestions!
Plus counter spells and draw spells are some of the better low cost spells to build up with
serious feedback here: your videos are awesome and well constructed. just love em. the decklists on tappedout u create on the other hand ... It would actually be great if you sort the cards there after their function. Just like you do in your videos. Sort them after control/ removal, Ramp, Winconditions. Whatever it is you construct your imformative videos, do that as well in your decklists. cheers and keep up the good work. =)
I'll keep that in mind!
Instead of using rituals I use Reality Spasm. Tap your lands for mana and play Spasm to untap them, while its on the stack Reiterate it a couple of times and tap your lands inbetween Spasms. This also works untapping stuff like Pyromancers goggles.
an older card a lot of players miss is spell burst, in a mizzix deck, it says "u, counter target spell, return this card to your hand", this card can singlehandedly win the game.
Yep! It's pretty brutal in this deck.
I absolutely love every bit of your videos and have been catching up on the backlog, watching your earlier content. I look forward to more gameplays!
I'd love to see a deck tech for a Zurgo Helmsmasher voltron build! My meta is not as competitive as yours I think so land destruction-lite but I know you'd do a great job!
Keep up the quality content and hope for an update soon!
Thank you for the kind words! I post a new video every Monday at 11am EST - tomorrow will be another 4 player EDH game.
I'll add Zurgo to the list! I'd had a Zurgo list a while back when I was going to make an EDH deck for each color possibility, but I've since scrapped it. This would be a fun way to look back on what I was building.
Fantastic, I'll be refreshing my page around then! If I can put my two cents, I definitely prefer the multiplayer content; it's more fun EDH experience even if just 3 players.
And sweet! I can't wait to see what you brew!
Enjoy the content as always, keep up the good work!
Very nice series!
What about Pull from the Deep? Peopel seem to forget it a lot for this deck, I love it there
That's a great suggestion! UU to return up to an instant AND sorcery seems like a fantastic inclusion.
MTG Muddstah
I certainly think that it is better than Archaeomancer (even tho she is still great), and it seems to go forgotten a lot of the times
Archaeo is usefull with Riptide Laboratory (and other back-in-hand shenanigans) but not really with Mizzix going crazy.
I love using blue sun's zenith and Stroke of genius as fireball spells for the opponents library.
Me too. There's something so fun about twisting the ability to make people draw into a win condition.
I've also seen a version of Mizzix that primarily wins with Epic Experiment, and I was wondering if we could see some sequels to this particular commander?
Could you do a deck tech on melek
I use a Mizzix Commander deck with only 2 counterspells, a normal 3 mana counter spell and a Counterflux, I run a lot of combos in it so I won’t shed a tear if one or two gets countered, the deck is pretty effective and I haven’t met many people that have been able to beat it
So yeah I think it is fine not having many counters with your Mizzix deck
If your looking to not run counters boseiju, who shelters all can provide that utility
Love the video but I do have some opinions. I've been playing Mizzix for almost a year now and I don't run lightning bolt anymore. Why? Because the combo itself has alot more cards that can go into the combo. except for reiterate, the combo can have multiple cards serve the same function as other cards. For example, any card that can untap at least 2 lands can go infinite with reiterate and mizzix. Just having infinite storm triggers can be an easy win. I guess what I'm trying to get at is that I think the video could've said a little more about how the combo works and not just have cards that are only good for that combo, I'm mostly just talking about lightning bolt.
Well, I think what you bring up is a great expansion. My experience with Mizzix is quite limited, so it's great to have feedback from someone with games behind them.
I also try to keep my primers light. I don't want to go too heavily into everything, because I feel like part of the fun is often discovering these new elements while playing.
Yeah, absolutely. Just making the information readily available. Love your videos, keep it up.
i think i am going to make a goblin deck with her being my commader
Perhaps boring, but Mizzux was the commander that made my Laboratory Maniac win the fastest. Enter the Infinite becomes so much better with this commander, and seeing my friends reaction to said spell + Alhammerret's Archive is priceless.
Haha! I think I'd enjoy losing to Lab Maniac over the typical Reiterate, Bolt, Anthem spell combo.
Could you no a deck tech on Ruric Thar, the unbowed?
So wait, you cast one of the cards that add a bunch of red mana to your mana pool, then cast Reiterate with buyback, then recast Reiterate infinite times to copy whatever spell you used to add red mana to your mana pool. then do the same thing with Lightning Bolt?
what other combos can you have? or any combos for the ohter comander
I love spellslingers decks and Mizzix as a General, but my group is a bit anti-combo and I was wondering if Mizzix could also win without going infinite
You can win without going infinite for sure. You can do enter the infinite into inner fire or other mana stuff like mana geyser or brass bounty. You can do earthquake abilities to hit all opponents and yourself. You can do lots of x spells especially the new red one in war of the spark. You can do a huge epic experiment. You can use weird crap nobody uses like apex of power to pay 3 mana for 10 mana and draw 7 cards or insurrection to take all creatures on the board for a turn or mass manipulation. Laboratory maniac with blue draw and blue draw and discard and red draw and discard and wheel effects. You can copy x spells and big ones like searing wind cinderstorm a bunch
I dont run infinite combos in mine and mizzix just gets disgusting value which is absurd fun, if you can untap twice with mizzix then the game should be almost if not done that 2nd time, almost any spell that untaps lands is worth running imo
I play only one other creature in my Mizzix Deck: Another Mizzix aka Sakashima the Impostor. Although he feels like a "you win more" card.
Brilliant suggestion!
No mizzix deck is complete without spell burst
Oh I'm sorry did you want to resolve a spell ... like ever again?
... play Cavern of Souls choosing Wizard, end of opponent's turn cast Teferi...
*sad music*
no need for that, simply cast Obliterate and flip the bird! :P
An honorable mention should go to Mizzix's Mastery, which has one of the most hilariously powerful effects of all time.
Amen!
Oh yeah it does! It's in my Mizzix deck.
For a fun win condition, Tunnel Vision yourself into Mizzix's Mastery (serious win : Spell Crumple then Tunnel Vision opponent)
How about doing Yisan the wanderer bard?
I'll add him to the list!
i am thinking abouy making the deck and win through laboratory maniac. i would be using rise from the tides and distant Melody.
I dig it! Anything but the typical combo win gets a thumbs up from me.
+MTG Muddstah i thought of the 2nd way of wining is use Amulet of vigor and burst of speed
Can you explain it in detail?
+MTG Muddstah i use Amulet of vigor, rise from the tides, and burst of speed and attack with enough damge to win
Hi, very good video. i played her a bit of a time. but i went to an other commander cause you will play mostly for yourself and the playgroup will be bored very quickly.
kind regards from germany
Ok, i've been playing mizzix witg no counter spells for a minute, no fast mana aside from sol ring (tailismans, and signets still there) and i consistsntly win even at cedh tables because of how unassuming the deck is, i recently slotted in a singular counter spell (guardianship), but i def wouldnt reccomend mizzix for a casual pod if u build optimal decks
Just before sum1 says anything, im making it one of my cedh decks soon (probably going to make a cedh brago or yuriko) and i will be slotting fast mana and 15+ counters instead of fun cards, instead of having 3 burn spells having 1 with underworld breach brainfreeze bs
Uhhmm Spellburst...when you get Experience Counters Big enough...it just locks out opponente's for U at a time.
Yup! That's a great suggestion. I'm just not sure in to talking counterspells - they mostly all just do the same thing haha.
Oh yeah, its time for omniscience
you should do derevi man btw AWESOME VIDS
Thanks! I'll add her to the list!
I think Voltron would be an interesting idea for him
finaly
I didnt know Mizzix was a she...
Whaaaat? no Mizzix mastery + sphinx bone wand combo? No one can actually get mad by dying to the bone wand. If you do you either don't play enough magic or you're a bad player. Bone wand is the most fair because its the most fragile.
Mizzix is infinitely better at Storm than Malek... My Mizzix deck wins on turn 6 80% of the time.
MizziX!!!! There is an x at the end of Mizzix. Not a k. So annoying. Sorry just bothered me a fair bit. I did really like the video though sorry for being that guy.
No worries, people rag on me about my pronunciation all the time, haha.
THIRD!