@@TyWebb-x3zwould be clever if Norman hadn’t already started to try and form the World Golf Tour to compete with the PGA Tour a year and a half before this Masters took place.
I really think Greg Norman had tiger or Jack talent...all the potential but he did not have their mind or backbone. That's the only difference in my eyes and it was a big one...jack or tiger would never collapse like that...Norman just wasn't born with that same mentality to be clutch under pressure like those two...thats always what put jack and tiger in their own class...
Absolutely. There's been lots of guys who have had the playing ability to compete at high levels, but very few have the mindset to really bear down when it matters.
As much as I hate to agree, I do. Norman was so good. He just lacked some intangible ingredient that other great players have. We mustn’t forget that he won two Open Championships and only studs win the Open.
Imagine shooting 67 (-5) to win the masters? Incredible pressure. Faldo was majestically good that day, and that’s the real story, not Norman losing (again).
Little known fact; there was a golfer 50 years earlier who had a very similar career to Norman, called Craig Wood. Like Norman, he was a popular golfer. Like Norman, he lost play offs in all four majors. Like Norman, he lost out because of freak events (notably Gene Sarazens albatross in the 1935 masters.) And like Norman, he was consistently finishing high up the leaderboards. Like Norman, he "only" won two majors. He finally won the masters in 1941, and followed it up with the US open. The second world war then caused all majors to be cancelled, by the time they restarted his prime was gone.
The first 3 rounds Norman dominated, kinda makes you wonder was there something going on in his head before this round started because he not only played bad but he didn't execute anything.
He mentioned in an interview recently that a spectator said something like “you can’t lose from here” on the eve of the Sunday round and he said that comment messed with his mind.
Macy's had vehemently marketed Greg Norman's apparel. However, after his '96 Masters fiasco, they'd summarily discarded it after the 65% discount had failed to produce revenue
Those Cobra Golf Clubs that was actually my design whilst doing machine shop classes at Altona Nth Technical School 1985-1988 see Greg was simply handy with a bench grinder so no-one knew his equipment but failing to make the cut in his own tournament in 2007 meant the others were onto Cobra's and were doing weight training simply said Greg was past 40 years old and kept signing on.
He was really snakebit, several times, in the majors. Losing a playoff in '87, with Mize & Seve, when Mize chipped in, losing US Open in a playoff, to Fuzzy Z, earlier on, losing the PGA champ one year, when Bob Tway holed out a bunker shot to win on the last hole, and several other times as well. No doubt he choked often, but also had some bad luck
Larry Mizes chip in will never be repeated as long as we live. It was not like Tigers at 2005, a perfect shot with the bonus of going in. Mizes shot would have rolled wat past the hole if it hadn't gone in, it was a fluke. No one will get that lucky on a shot again.
I remember this well. I remember not liking Norman at all and feeling happy when this happened. And Now... well I'm still glad he lost. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah Choke!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I used to feel sorry for Greg for the bad luck he had at the Masters but then I discovered how much of a prick he is. Then I was happy he choked away those majors.
Yah my Uncle had an opportunity to get in the clubhouse with the pros (tickets from a co-worker) and he met Greg Norman and Ernie Els. He introduced himself and asked both for an autograph. He said Norman just signed the visor (which I saw later) and flicked it at him without saying anything. Els actually chatted with him for a while and was a really nice guy. lol.
Random players win two majors in a career. Norman underperformed in clutch time. He was #1 for 300+ weeks on tour. By his stature looking back he should have won 5-6
After observing Greg Norman's attempts to damage the PGA tour, I no longer feel sad about his collapses. He is no longer a sympathetic figure. And this is too bad, because he could have had a very popular post-PGA career.
younger viewers who werent around then, dont understand that no one, absolutely NO ONE thought Greg Norman would lose before that round. He was the number 1 player in the world, he had been the number 1 for a few years at that point. No one really thought of him as a choker before that either, everyone thought of him as the best player in the world who was very unlucky in the past with guys holing unbelievable shots against him, which he was, but before that round the question was how many was he going to win by, what scoring records were in jeopardy? will he just put a 64 or 65 on the board and embarrass Nick Faldo? Not even the strongest craziest Nick Faldo fans thought he had a chance to win before that round. The absolute worst Greg Norman could shoot was around even, which meant Nick Faldo had to have the round of his life, which wasnt going to happen because Greg was the best player in the world and would have been able to respond if he needed to. So everyone thought finally Norman was going to win a Masters, finally there was some justice after Mize 87 and Nicklaus 86 and other times. And in the final round no one thought Norman was out of it until he put that ball in the water on 16, everyone knew he was perfectly capable of going birdie birdie birdie on the last 3 holes. So its like he had multiple chances to come back throughout the back 9, he was the best player in the world, so not even Faldo fans thought he was out of it until the 16th. Young people who werent around then think of him as a choker through ignorance, citing that day, but its really the only time you could really say that, sure he had below average final rounds in the past where he played 2 over or something like the 95 US Open, but the other guy also had the round of their lives which they never did before or since, theres a longgg list of those players, so people thought of him as unlucky, not a choker.
I’m no young kid, and quite frankly, I saw it all happen either live or on TV. Frankly, Norman choked plain and simple. He had the lead in so many other majors and blew them all except two for someone who was supposed to be number one he couldn’t close out any major and then tiger came along and then he couldn’t realize he was done. He created so many disasters on and off the course to liv golf. To putting radios in golf carts, turning golf from a sanctuary into a wrestling event, he should go home to Australia and shame he treated his playing partners like garbage, and he tried to destroy the history of the sport with his new way of redesigning it I’m glad the guy never won really worth a damn he was one player I detested from day one.
@@jmirr69 yeah you said it all really, hes someone you detested from day one, so your opinion of he chocked lots of times is just that, your opinion, from a bitter guy. I watched them all too and no he didnt choke until 96, he sprayed his approach into 18 in 86 but that was one shot, it can happen to anyone, he was thought of as unlucky which he was, its only young clowns now who think he always choked. I doubt you were there watching them all, I think you are full of it. When did he choke before 96? "Supposed to be number one" how do you think he got to number one you clown? it was charity? he got there from winning so many events and playing better than anyone else. He was number 1 for longest of anyone except Woods so dont make a fool of yourself, too late. Yes what he did with liv was a disgrace, and its a shame, it wasnt just him, the PGA Tour head was just as bad, but cant take away his achievements and how good he was.
True story (from reliable sources) Greg got drunk as a skunk after R3, thinking he had it in the bag. He has no one else to blame for that R4 performance than himself.
Norman was an arsehole who treated his playing partners like absolute crap. This choking was an awesome thing to watch. I followed him round auatralian tournaments in his early days and he was a complete arse hat.
The shot into the middle of the pond at 16 was horrific. I assume his mind was mush by then but even on autopilot he should be able to hit it on the green! He hit another hideous shot in the 86 masters to allow Jack to win. Couldn’t seem to grind out the score when he needed it.
only arnold palmer could have consoled him, after that,; who himself blew a seven shot lead on the back nine, in a u s open, to casper. its golf & it happens
Sure, he underperformed in the clutch a few times and was beaten by great (lucky?) shots a few others. That said, I'd take his life over anyone who is commenting here.
I think the thing is that as good as Greg was. Golf fans seem to feel like he really could have been on a jack or tiger level....he was THAT good when he was on. But he just couldn't handle those big moments like them...thats why I find it so upsetting as a fan, Norman was unbelievable when he was on
I like Norman but no way Nicklaus Hogan or Woods blows a lead like that. That is why they were the best of their eras. Playing it safe is not in Norman's vocabulary.
Playing it safe doesn't always work - like Rory yesterday who played it safe on the final day and got smoked by Cam Smith who shot a 64 to win The Open at St Andrews
@@SiLoMixMaster he played it safe. But the three guys I mentioned would have made a few putts to put the dagger in the hopes of their challenger. Rory did not make one putt of note. That is why they have a total of 42 majors. Jack said he willed the ball in the hole. Tiger always made putts at the right time and Hogan was not a great putter but his iron shots always landed close to the pin.
Something that always gets overlooked even in other tournaments, greg was carrying that pressure all day even longer, faldo had nothing to lose, big big difference carrying that pressure, even tiger sweats bullets in the lead at majors zfter all hes done...
@Adam I'm a 6 handicap and a mental midget on the golf course. But that's besides the point. I'm not a pro and he was. The thing with Norman is he thinks he's better than he was. He thinks he's up there with Tiger and Jack. He wasn't even the best player in his era really.
I just rewatched the '86 Masters and you're right. He had it all talent-wise and simply didn't have the mental game to close. That shot on 18, all he had to do was par and still found a way to hit the gallery right. It's like blowing a lay-up to lose a game.
@Adam I visited the World Golf Hall of Fame in Florida and personally, i saw many names and bronze sculptures of people that had no business being there. Norman could hit that drive, don't get me wrong. But no masters, no pga and no U.S. open. Thank goodness for the Brittish opens or Norman would have went down as one of the best players never to win a major.
He used too much hands in the swing. That's why the shaft of his club would fly around and hit him in the back like that. More hands in the swing can bring more variables and lead to inconsistencies...timing has to be perfect. I think that hurt him in the big spots as much as the "mental game".
i'll never forget my dad's quote when Norman hit it in the water: "He's lost his fucken mind"
The Liv golf supervillain origin story
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@@TyWebb-x3zwould be clever if Norman hadn’t already started to try and form the World Golf Tour to compete with the PGA Tour a year and a half before this Masters took place.
You’re right. I think this is where it started.
@@daverogers5609 he is wrong. His first shot started a year and a half before this.
I have often wondered similar. If he had won 2 Masters, I doubt he would have chosen the LIV route.
Norman's collapse aside, Faldo's final round 67 is one of the best Sunday performances in Masters history.
Agreed. It doesn't get the attention it deserves.
Faldo’s round is the story. Norman blew up in every chance he ever had at Augusta.
I've seen better, I've seen 64 final rounds.
@@lrn_news9171 Like yesterday at The Open by Cam Smith lol
@@NicolaiAwesomeyou concentrate on throwing a straight Frisbee if you are playing for a green jck
I remember watching this! Couldn't believe it! I think a lot of viewers at home "fell down" during that one missed shot!
Faldo birdie , Faldo birdie, Faldo birdie, this was probably the best part of the hole clip😂😂😂
And sounds much better when a Scotsman is narrating.
25 years later, this is still tough to watch.
hey, "we all make mistakes" Guy is a greedy fcking jackass
As an Australian, I was literally depressed for a week after this. I’ve never been so affected by a sporting result. It was like a nightmare.
@@mattcorcoran7082 Cam Smith made up for it yesterday when he smoked Rory at St Andrews lol
Tough to watch? Never gets old! 😏
Greg was a really likable guy, but sometimes his demons had demons.
I really think Greg Norman had tiger or Jack talent...all the potential but he did not have their mind or backbone. That's the only difference in my eyes and it was a big one...jack or tiger would never collapse like that...Norman just wasn't born with that same mentality to be clutch under pressure like those two...thats always what put jack and tiger in their own class...
Absolutely. There's been lots of guys who have had the playing ability to compete at high levels, but very few have the mindset to really bear down when it matters.
I remember watching golf in the 90s and Norman was always in amongst the leaders.
Norman should have won at least eight majors with his talent.
But it takes more than talent to win the biggest events.
As much as I hate to agree, I do. Norman was so good. He just lacked some intangible ingredient that other great players have. We mustn’t forget that he won two Open Championships and only studs win the Open.
imagine blowing a 6 shot lead, when all you had to do was go out and shoot par for the day
He played the way you play when you change difficulty in wii golf, all of a sudden your near perfect game becomes trash
Imagine? Lol if that was me that lead woulda been gone after hole 1. I’d be down 6
Imagine shooting 67 (-5) to win the masters? Incredible pressure. Faldo was majestically good that day, and that’s the real story, not Norman losing (again).
@@NicolaiAwesome Ummmmmmm Norman shot 78 so yes it was.
@@NicolaiAwesome faldo had no pressure
As an Aussie. We would set the alarm. To get up in the early hours. To watch Greg. ❤
Little known fact; there was a golfer 50 years earlier who had a very similar career to Norman, called Craig Wood.
Like Norman, he was a popular golfer. Like Norman, he lost play offs in all four majors. Like Norman, he lost out because of freak events (notably Gene Sarazens albatross in the 1935 masters.) And like Norman, he was consistently finishing high up the leaderboards.
Like Norman, he "only" won two majors. He finally won the masters in 1941, and followed it up with the US open. The second world war then caused all majors to be cancelled, by the time they restarted his prime was gone.
still haunted by this. i actually fell off my chair on the ground when the shark missed holing that chip shot.
Hell of a round Greg!!
My step dad rooted for Greg Norman for years after this. Always wanted to see him pull one out and redeem himself
The first 3 rounds Norman dominated, kinda makes you wonder was there something going on in his head before this round started because he not only played bad but he didn't execute anything.
Partied with Clinton the night before final round !!!!!!
Yeah. He was worried about the Golf Channel analysis of his chances. They knew.
Yes. He was severely hungover!!! Facts (reliable sources)
He mentioned in an interview recently that a spectator said something like “you can’t lose from here” on the eve of the Sunday round and he said that comment messed with his mind.
25 years on I can barely watch this. Excruciating.
The shark bit his own tail.
Macy's had vehemently marketed Greg Norman's apparel. However, after his '96 Masters fiasco, they'd summarily discarded it after the 65% discount had failed to produce revenue
Those Cobra Golf Clubs that was actually my design whilst doing machine shop classes at Altona Nth Technical School 1985-1988 see Greg was simply handy with a bench grinder so no-one knew his equipment but failing to make the cut in his own tournament in 2007 meant the others were onto Cobra's and were doing weight training simply said Greg was past 40 years old and kept signing on.
I'll give YA the cobra clutch.
Watched it live...With a lead that big, bringing it home is all mental.
The legendary Choke Shark. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It was crushing for me. Now…. Not so much.
He was really snakebit, several times, in the majors. Losing a playoff in '87, with Mize & Seve, when Mize chipped in, losing US Open in a playoff, to Fuzzy Z, earlier on, losing the PGA champ one year, when Bob Tway holed out a bunker shot to win on the last hole, and several other times as well. No doubt he choked often, but also had some bad luck
Yeah a lot of it was bad luck, the other player doing a heroic 1 in a 1000 type shot
@@lrn_news9171 "86 was a great choke only surpassed by '96. He wasn't snakebit he gagged.
You make your own luck in golf pal. don’t you know !
You make your own luck, and Norman deserved every snakebite he suffered.
Larry Mizes chip in will never be repeated as long as we live.
It was not like Tigers at 2005, a perfect shot with the bonus of going in. Mizes shot would have rolled wat past the hole if it hadn't gone in, it was a fluke.
No one will get that lucky on a shot again.
Loved it..couldnt stand him and still cant
Don’t feel bad for him after creating the unnecessary war within the golf world that we see today. LIV is a joke. Thanks for nothing Greg!
Chalk it up to a bad day at golf. Happens to the rest and the best of us.😂😂😂
Maybe he didn't have a poop that morning.
bro couldn’t handle the pressure😂
I remember this well. I remember not liking Norman at all and feeling happy when this happened. And Now... well I'm still glad he lost. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah Choke!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Loved the collapse. He deserved it
Dumbass
I used to feel sorry for Greg for the bad luck he had at the Masters but then I discovered how much of a prick he is. Then I was happy he choked away those majors.
Yah my Uncle had an opportunity to get in the clubhouse with the pros (tickets from a co-worker) and he met Greg Norman and Ernie Els. He introduced himself and asked both for an autograph. He said Norman just signed the visor (which I saw later) and flicked it at him without saying anything. Els actually chatted with him for a while and was a really nice guy.
lol.
And now knowing all the friction he has caused with LIV I’m glad the sob never gets to attend the masters championship dinner.
I thought the '86 choke was fun but this is the greatest choke in history.
For those badmouthing Norman, two Claret Jugs ain't too shabby...
Had the lead in 12 other majors. Unreal he just won two. .
Considering the fact that Shark was expected to win 5-10 majors, 2 wins is way under what everyone in golf thought would happen.
Random players win two majors in a career. Norman underperformed in clutch time. He was #1 for 300+ weeks on tour. By his stature looking back he should have won 5-6
0:59 When Space Jam 2 replaces Black Widow as #1 movie
Got that right with that epic trash..
Marxist James in it plus the horrible voices. (E.G. BUGS BUNNY)
Guts and no guts.
Thanks for keeping this around. It’s awesome he’s such a loser
That’s why liv is doing a 54 hole tourney cause Norman can’t do a 72 hole
Or the 72nd hole in the '86 Masters. He hit a shank like a 20 handicapper.
man watched tin cup one too many times
The "Shart" breaks his own heart
The "Shark" turned out to be a "Flounder".
Choking Greggie Norms
The Great White Shart!
After observing Greg Norman's attempts to damage the PGA tour, I no longer feel sad about his collapses. He is no longer a sympathetic figure. And this is too bad, because he could have had a very popular post-PGA career.
He doesn’t care. He has plenty of money.
Same with Mickelson..LIV has not been good for his well being..his wallet might be fat but here lately he’s looking like a prisoner of war.
Super ironic that this is set to the music of apollo 13. Only difference is Norman couldn't right the ship.
I used to love him... but the biggest choker the game has ever known! Now, nothing shy of a traitor who sold his soul to the devil!
Pre-retribution for his current association with the Sand Jockey Golf Association.
McIlroy going the same way
No cell phones and 1/2 the crowd not wearing a hat.
I remember watching this live. I felt awful for him when his missed that short putt.
A true champion wouldn’t miss that putt. Just a brutal truth.
@@-ShootTheGlass- i agree. It was difficult watching a man choke like that.
Daughter/Granddaughter to Father/Grandfather, "what did you do to promote female rights and equality"?
younger viewers who werent around then, dont understand that no one, absolutely NO ONE thought Greg Norman would lose before that round. He was the number 1 player in the world, he had been the number 1 for a few years at that point. No one really thought of him as a choker before that either, everyone thought of him as the best player in the world who was very unlucky in the past with guys holing unbelievable shots against him, which he was, but before that round the question was how many was he going to win by, what scoring records were in jeopardy? will he just put a 64 or 65 on the board and embarrass Nick Faldo? Not even the strongest craziest Nick Faldo fans thought he had a chance to win before that round. The absolute worst Greg Norman could shoot was around even, which meant Nick Faldo had to have the round of his life, which wasnt going to happen because Greg was the best player in the world and would have been able to respond if he needed to. So everyone thought finally Norman was going to win a Masters, finally there was some justice after Mize 87 and Nicklaus 86 and other times. And in the final round no one thought Norman was out of it until he put that ball in the water on 16, everyone knew he was perfectly capable of going birdie birdie birdie on the last 3 holes. So its like he had multiple chances to come back throughout the back 9, he was the best player in the world, so not even Faldo fans thought he was out of it until the 16th. Young people who werent around then think of him as a choker through ignorance, citing that day, but its really the only time you could really say that, sure he had below average final rounds in the past where he played 2 over or something like the 95 US Open, but the other guy also had the round of their lives which they never did before or since, theres a longgg list of those players, so people thought of him as unlucky, not a choker.
I’m no young kid, and quite frankly, I saw it all happen either live or on TV. Frankly, Norman choked plain and simple. He had the lead in so many other majors and blew them all except two for someone who was supposed to be number one he couldn’t close out any major and then tiger came along and then he couldn’t realize he was done. He created so many disasters on and off the course to liv golf. To putting radios in golf carts, turning golf from a sanctuary into a wrestling event, he should go home to Australia and shame he treated his playing partners like garbage, and he tried to destroy the history of the sport with his new way of redesigning it I’m glad the guy never won really worth a damn he was one player I detested from day one.
@@jmirr69 yeah you said it all really, hes someone you detested from day one, so your opinion of he chocked lots of times is just that, your opinion, from a bitter guy. I watched them all too and no he didnt choke until 96, he sprayed his approach into 18 in 86 but that was one shot, it can happen to anyone, he was thought of as unlucky which he was, its only young clowns now who think he always choked. I doubt you were there watching them all, I think you are full of it. When did he choke before 96? "Supposed to be number one" how do you think he got to number one you clown? it was charity? he got there from winning so many events and playing better than anyone else. He was number 1 for longest of anyone except Woods so dont make a fool of yourself, too late. Yes what he did with liv was a disgrace, and its a shame, it wasnt just him, the PGA Tour head was just as bad, but cant take away his achievements and how good he was.
Now he’s finally getting his revenge on the pga tour .
True story (from reliable sources) Greg got drunk as a skunk after R3, thinking he had it in the bag. He has no one else to blame for that R4 performance than himself.
The Shark took a dive ? 🦈
This collapse should’ve been the warning sign of his tarnished reputation
Norman was an arsehole who treated his playing partners like absolute crap. This choking was an awesome thing to watch. I followed him round auatralian tournaments in his early days and he was a complete arse hat.
FIX Norman took a dive
Cold cold faldo
Great day. Shark gets Eaten by best player in world. Nicky FALDO
The shot into the middle of the pond at 16 was horrific. I assume his mind was mush by then but even on autopilot he should be able to hit it on the green!
He hit another hideous shot in the 86 masters to allow Jack to win. Couldn’t seem to grind out the score when he needed it.
I wonder what Nick said to Greg on that final green?
He said "don't let the arse holes get you down." (for real)
“That’s three green jackets for me bro!” ?
He said what's green and has 6 arms? The masters jacket section of my locker.
his short game was no good on that day
short game? he found water twice lol
The white Shark
only arnold palmer could have consoled him, after that,; who himself blew a seven shot lead on the back nine, in a u s open, to casper. its golf & it happens
Yes but Arnold Palmer did win a US Open. Norman never won a Masters.
Palmer shot 71. Casper 68. Big difference from 78 and 67.
He used a whole roll of toilet paper and still couldn't clean that disaster. ......
Sure, he underperformed in the clutch a few times and was beaten by great (lucky?) shots a few others. That said, I'd take his life over anyone who is commenting here.
Well said
there was actually one year , in the mid 80's , where he lead every major after the third round
Well NS
He’s currently positioning himself on the side of the Saudi government. No thanks, I’ll take my life.
I think the thing is that as good as Greg was. Golf fans seem to feel like he really could have been on a jack or tiger level....he was THAT good when he was on. But he just couldn't handle those big moments like them...thats why I find it so upsetting as a fan, Norman was unbelievable when he was on
I like Norman but no way Nicklaus Hogan or Woods blows a lead like that. That is why they were the best of their eras. Playing it safe is not in Norman's vocabulary.
Playing it safe doesn't always work - like Rory yesterday who played it safe on the final day and got smoked by Cam Smith who shot a 64 to win The Open at St Andrews
@@SiLoMixMaster he played it safe. But the three guys I mentioned would have made a few putts to put the dagger in the hopes of their challenger. Rory did not make one putt of note. That is why they have a total of 42 majors. Jack said he willed the ball in the hole. Tiger always made putts at the right time and Hogan was not a great putter but his iron shots always landed close to the pin.
Fuck. Who's narrating? Can't remember
+Graham Paisley Alan Hansen by the sound of things
Hee did that on porpoise
Choke master!!
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Something that always gets overlooked even in other tournaments, greg was carrying that pressure all day even longer, faldo had nothing to lose, big big difference carrying that pressure, even tiger sweats bullets in the lead at majors zfter all hes done...
Chip on 10th came out so hot. Failed to practice. Relying too much on natural talent.
Armchair critic
Great. White. Shart.
Greg Norman had zero mental toughness.
@Adam I'm a 6 handicap and a mental midget on the golf course. But that's besides the point. I'm not a pro and he was. The thing with Norman is he thinks he's better than he was. He thinks he's up there with Tiger and Jack. He wasn't even the best player in his era really.
@@stackleft2925 Norman was a choker.
I just rewatched the '86 Masters and you're right. He had it all talent-wise and simply didn't have the mental game to close. That shot on 18, all he had to do was par and still found a way to hit the gallery right. It's like blowing a lay-up to lose a game.
@Adam I visited the World Golf Hall of Fame in Florida and personally, i saw many names and bronze sculptures of people that had no business being there. Norman could hit that drive, don't get me wrong. But no masters, no pga and no U.S. open. Thank goodness for the Brittish opens or Norman would have went down as one of the best players never to win a major.
He used too much hands in the swing. That's why the shaft of his club would fly around and hit him in the back like that. More hands in the swing can bring more variables and lead to inconsistencies...timing has to be perfect. I think that hurt him in the big spots as much as the "mental game".