Yamaha Ténéré 700: The Best (for me) High Exhaust with Scorpion slip-on and other available options
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2024
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After very long delay and many questions about my high exhaust conversion I finally managed to make a video about it.
I focus solely on my conversion which is a bit unique as I have completely changed the mounting point of the Scorpion exhaust which involved loads of cutting and welding as well as fabrication of both the mount and the down pipe.
All work has been done by amazing PunkMoto (see below) and in terms of the final result I'm really happy with both the look and the build quality of the solution.
Chapters
00:00 Intro
00:48 Why to have high exhaust?
01:55 T7rally Swing arm protector
02:17 My High Exhaust conversion & price
02:56 Detailed look
06:16 Weight
06:44 Other kits
08:25 Indicator heat shield
T7Rally swing arm protector
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Huzar
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Love your videos...keep em coming
Thank you! Will do!
Thank you for the video.
I have been looking at the three options you mentioned. I would say, Camel ADV definitely looks to be the best quality.
Hey, I'm saying The Best from my perspective, not in general of course - and it's all custom so not fair play :)
Someone actually mentioned another kit I didn't know about so there seems to be more options popping up slowly, which is not surprising.
The Camel ADV kit is very good but to get it here I'd probably spent more than I did, if you're in US I kind of think it's no brainer to get the Camel unless you already have slip on or want different more robust mounting point. Also the Camel ADV mounting bracket is much better design than anything I saw.
Great topic, this seems to be the greatest design flaw so far. I am sure more kits will enter the market. Just makes the whole planning of luggage system more complicated.
Hello, yes I think there will be more and more kits coming up. What I have works with both Outback motortek X-frame racks as well as with Mosko Moto Rackless as you just use heat shield on the exhaust.
I suspect all other kits would work the same.
I need to get one myself!
I have the Arrow slip-on and I'll probably get a local exhaust shop to make customer mid pipe to link it.
Well it will solve the problem with the swing arm :) I thought that fabricating the down pipe is complicated but it seems reasonably straight forward so good shop should be able to do the job.
Can you say which Scorpion lends itself best to this great solution? Cheers
To me the big win goes to the Huzar, it's tucked up under and actually uses the mounting point to protect the exhaust. I run pannier racks offroad to protect my low exhaust at the moment, but with that one I wouldn't feel any need for protecting it. Also, I don't want to hack up the mount point. I believe with the Huzar you have to cut a small hole in the plastic fender (says 30mm x 20mm)
edit: and I think it looks pretty good tucked inside, like a 990
I have the Huzar but never tried fitting it, looks good in the youtube vid though.
Don't fancy chopping the frame mount as it will affect resale value of the bike.
Hi, yes the bracket would protect the exhaust + it would allow to return to the OEM exhaust if one wants to sell the bike. The luggage rack would of course protect any high exhaust solution, I'm now running rackless system so for me it's a bit different.
Truth is that as the Huzar is so tucked in it may be possible to use it with something like Adventure Spec or Rally raid minimal luggage racks. I've not tried with mine.
Hi John, yep that's one of the big no when one thinks about selling the bike.
@@FARANDFURTHER I think if you are looking for a used Tenere, seeing that someone has fixed the exhaust problem isn't a downside. So I'm looking, and it'd be a definite plus for me if someone had gone to the trouble and expense of solving the exhaust issue. The alternative is sit around until Yamaha fix it in their next model.
HP Corse even better.
hey man, thanks for the videos as always, very useful stuff.
I'm still undecided about which way to go with the exhaust.
however may I ask which tyres you are running in this video and the last one? they seem quite offload worthy!
thanks
Hugo
Hi Hugo, it's tough one. On one side I think that some high exhaust conversion is the real solution fot the problem but with the T7rally swing arm protector it could also work.
I don't really think it matters which kit you get as long as it's legal in your country (so you're not bothered by the police) and you like it it will do the job. I don't like the long hot pipe of the Huzar solution so I'd prefer the Punkmoto or Camel ADV one.
Also if you don't bend it regularly now you may not have a problem at all. It's not that you HAVE to do high exhaust mod, only if you need to.
I would like one for my FJ09
Great review! Your silencer is it a 370mm? Thanks
Hey, the Scorpion puts it at 350mm Serket Parallel. I know that my friend had Leo Vince an that was so much longer! The short slip on makes it fit easier.
This looks neat and what I’d do. I’m pondering a T700 and hate the OEM dustbin of an exhaust. Two things spring to mind: why not do it properly in the first place and second why is there no subframe?
Can't really say... maybe now with the 2nd version of Tenere they will address the exhaust?
Many thanks for share it... very good review! there's one more option developed by xracing and twalcom
I can't find it, do you have a link?
I'd be also interested in the link to see it.
@@FARANDFURTHER Hi! I wrote them couple of weeks ago and they answered me saying that the kit is going to be available soon... still waiting as well. Ride safe!!
@@fjsierram I'll got there tomorrow for modification on the rear rack so I'll ask. They had an accident and have broken collarbone so it makes things a bit slower.
Do you have their email? I spoke to them and the exhaust and down pipes should be available.
Hey you should design an extension ton to the Skid plate so it covers the Water pump on the left side…I think is vunerable.
Well, SW motech makes one so if you want you can just get it. It’s aluminum plate over the pump. I’ve not been able to destroy it yet so I’m not bothered that much. Clutch and alternator covers are good though.
I really hope Yamaha is going to fix this in a future update. Literally all it needs is a replacable hanger that is screwed into the frame like the passenger footpeg, so we can just replace it when something gets damaged. I actually like the exhaust position but right now if you bent it too much or break it you are screwed since it's part of the frame.
It's just such a weird and unexplainable design decision, just makes no sense to have this exposed part welded to the frame, waiting to get damaged.
Even sport bikes have them screwed to the subframe. I just hope they are already working on it and don't decide to ignore it...
hey, great work and solution with the exhaust. My question is, wich tyres are mounted?
and wich size?
That has been some time… 🤔 I think it was a time I had Mitas EF-7 Terra force on the rear and Mitas C-19 in the front. It was winter training season. They would be 140/80-18 and 90/90-21
@@FARANDFURTHER thanks very much. Driveable on street?
Yes but with much less confidence than on dirt, especially when wet and cold. Also on the road they will be gone in few thousand km.
Did you check/test the HP Corse kit?
No, I built my kit in early days of T7. Also I’m really happy with my setup right now.
Thanks, but won't your foot now take the hit instead of the exhaust? Not sure that is better?
I've built a reflex of jumping off the bike if I sense it goes down. There is no point for me to try to save the bike because I'm too short to provide any meaningful support. So I have good crashbars and just leave it fall.
Hi you,
Cool video. But unthinkable in Germany, unfortunately. I have also been thinking about it a lot.
The problem is really bad because of the swing arm. It's starting to look like that for me too.
Take care of yourself and maybe it will work out for a meeting soon.
Best regards
Franky
Hi, why is it unthinkable in Germany? I though that when the exhaust has the EU homologation which Scorpion and Sharon does have then there is no problem doing this. Unless of course the problem is also cutting and changing the mounting point.
The mounting bracket will get gradually weaker and weaker until you will be bending back and forth constantly. I think at that point the T7rally swing arm protector which I mention in video would be good solution especially if you can't or don't want the high exhaust.
HI @@FARANDFURTHER
The problem is that the bracket is welded to the frame of the motorbike. It is forbidden to weld frame parts that have load-bearing functions. In this case the exhaust system of the vehicle. Welding work on load-bearing elements such as the rear frame also requires a permit and may only be carried out by a certified welder.
And if it has been done, you have to do the TÜV. Since the exhaust tract has been modified. Without complete approval of the exhaust system, you are not allowed to drive here.
Please don't get me wrong. I think what you are doing is great and I would implement it immediately, but Germany is Germany. They wanted to regulate and define everything. We now even have laws that we have to register tyres that were previously completely unproblematic, that I've had on the bike for over 10 years.
I would rather be slow in Poland or Romania, there everything is still normal in this respect.
LG Franky
Thanks for explanation. That is indeed much more complicated than I thought! That is an impressive amount of headache for that.
This guy is exaggerating a lot, if the muffler is road legal then there won't be any issues. No one knows that you cut that exhaust holder if you don't make it obvious.
@@kowalski2334 That's why I had "no problems" with it at the TÜV. Because no one knows. Unfortunately, you may have little idea how it runs in Bavaria / Germany.
Sorry. Everyone can do as he wants, but should not arrive crying when he gets problems.
best regards
Franky
Není jednodušší koupit nosič brašen/kufrů? Ochrání to výfuk a nebude to stát raketu. To za prvé a za druhé moc zakroucené svody budou mít za následek snížení výkonu. Byla motorka na brzdě?
Čau Petře,
Co prosím znamená, jestli byla motorka na brzdě? Jako jestli jsem si nechal změřit výkon po tom co se udělali úpravy? Pokud ano tak ne na brzdě nebyla. Z těch řešení co jsem viděl a co jsou de-facto možné pokud chce člověk zachovat supačku tak je to problém. Camel má svod rovnější neboť jede víc ven než jak to mám já například, Huzar a jiní mají ještě strmější úhly.
Upřímně, kvůli výkonu jsem to nedělal, nemyslím, že by se výkon zhoršil, co jsem to honil 2 týdny na trati tak mi naopak přijde, že to od spoda má víc síly, ale jinak samozřejmě máš pravdu, že když jsou svody moc zakroucený tak to není dobrý, otázka je jestli jsou moc nebo ne :)
Nosič brašen to bohužel nevyřešil. Měl jsem dlouho Outback Motortek X-Frame a ohýbalo se to stále stejně (když jsem byl samozřemě bez brašen) protože ten výfuk je tak nízko a tak vytočen, že na začátku (u svodů) je přesně místo kde to furt leželo a to místo je trochu níž než rámy.
You could just duct tape a My Pillow to the pipe and exhaust and when you drop the bike just take a quick nap !
Hehe, good one. Unless the My Pillow is actual product ;)
I even tried that one in the beginning but the "pillow" I used got destroyed pretty quickly. Also it really is about the mounting point more than about the exhaust.
Jak ti na tom sedí brašny teď? Nepálí se ti to výfuk?
Ahoj Honzo, ne brašny se nepálí. Já původně měl Outback rámy a starý backcountry a tam samozřejmě vůbec nebyl problém i s předchozím vysokým výfukem.
Teď zkouším Mosko Rackless a tam je to tak, že od Mosko Moto dostaneš tepelný štít, který se přidělá na výfuk a pokud se ti Rackless výfuku dotýká tak to dáš tak aby se dotýkal na štítu. Funguje to v ponodě a zatím jsem neměl problém ani u starého tak ani u Scorpiona.
Scorpion je navíc podivně studenej, dáš na něj klidně ruku, ale samozřejmě to chce ho tam mít.
@@FARANDFURTHER super dík moc za odpověď. já mám Kriega OS base a 18l brašny k tomu tak uvidíme. budu o tom přemýšlet ! díky za videa.
Není, zač. To mosko má samo takový jakoby rám takze to úplně neleží na stranách, ta podkova je tak trochu samonosná, takže se to na konec opravdu dotýká jen na jednom místě. Uvidíš ideálně to chce asi někde vyzkoušet.
stupid.. stupid exhaust design ... seat, steering bar position, and most importantly exhaust🤦
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