Pat Metheny Group First Circle: The Rhythmic Pattern

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  • @wereleeroads9311
    @wereleeroads9311 4 роки тому +67

    One of the best musical compositions of the last 50 years.

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  4 роки тому +10

      They have definitely done what other composers - like Steve Reich couldn't. That is to be in touch with popular music (in terms of form, melody, and harmony) and then elevate it to a high artistic level.

    • @jacquesparis-0017
      @jacquesparis-0017 Рік тому +1

      I agree

    • @dukestravels1861
      @dukestravels1861 11 місяців тому

      Without a doubt.

    • @frankmurphyburr3598
      @frankmurphyburr3598 5 місяців тому

      200

  • @tscoffey1
    @tscoffey1 4 роки тому +49

    I’ve always considered “First Circle” to be the most satisfying and complete composition I have ever encountered.
    And as a percussionist, the rhythmic layering and complexity is so addictive.

  • @stefanomoretti1778
    @stefanomoretti1778 5 років тому +47

    Talking about the rhythmic pattern (with its unusual 11/8 time signature), one of the things that makes it so legendary to me is that the hand-clapping at the beginning (and so the whole tune) starts with a pause, so you are "fooled" by the hand-clapping that the weak beat is the strong one, and vice-versa. So, when the "single note melody" played by Pat on the guitar starts on the true first/strong beat, followed by Pedro's singing the main melody, the whole thing seems to become a totally different pattern! This has a truly displacing and somewhat mesmerizing effect, which makes it very difficult to follow or learn for the untrained ear (like mine...), and at the same time so fascinating to listen to. The same happens with the Lyle's melody over the Pat's solo, I think, and again on the hand-clapping at the end (which makes one end up with his hands hanging idle, cause the tune actually ends before he can clap for the last time! :D)
    (Ah, I forgot: thank you so much for sharing!)

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  5 років тому +8

      Thanks, Stefano. Yeah, there's something about that ending and a sense of a 'missing clap' - that's a good observation! :)

    • @christommygun2393
      @christommygun2393 3 роки тому +10

      Hi Stefano. I actually meet PM in 1985 when our Drum Corps (Concord Blue Devils) played First Circle in our repertoire. Its in 22/8 and to this day I have the original clapping score we used as the battery with 22/8 PM written on it.

    • @elikim3968
      @elikim3968 10 місяців тому

      the missing clap is just clapping on all the upbeats

    • @stefanomoretti1778
      @stefanomoretti1778 10 місяців тому

      @@christommygun2393 yes, on the score it's 22/8, it seems I forgot this and simplified too much. However, the relevant thing here is that the timing is uneven, so 11/4 or 11/8 seemed to underscore better this feature. Thank you for pointing it out.

  • @DavidTYork
    @DavidTYork 11 місяців тому +4

    Beautifully explained and beautifully played.

  • @reeddils3838
    @reeddils3838 2 роки тому +8

    This has become my favorite song of all time. I tear up at the end every time I listen to it. I am 74.

    • @eleetse6701
      @eleetse6701 Рік тому +1

      Reed, me too. Many of his songs get to me like that. Since there are no lyrics, there is something visceral about the way the notes are put together, wrapped around the liver and gut that causes such a profound reaction! LOL

    • @00govan00
      @00govan00 2 місяці тому

      ❤ Amen. It's so inspired.

    • @sarahterry2140
      @sarahterry2140 22 дні тому

      M 69 and this song is right up there; still feel the same emotions I felt when it was first released.

  • @docdetroit99
    @docdetroit99 5 років тому +21

    I first heard this song and thought Pat Metheny was our Mozart! I still think this every time I hear this song. Very nicely explained (in both videos)!!

  • @anzinn
    @anzinn 4 місяці тому +1

    I like this song more after this lecture! Thank you.

  • @baward
    @baward Рік тому +2

    Fascinating, I could watch Dr Guy all day!

  • @1SageUser
    @1SageUser 4 роки тому +9

    Guy,
    This popped up in my feed today. One man cover of First Circle. Very enjoyable.

  • @wilsonyap2619
    @wilsonyap2619 4 роки тому +12

    For years I cracked my head trying to figure out this song!!! My all time favorite Metheny song. Thanks for the video.

  • @roadglide
    @roadglide 3 роки тому +2

    Holy smokes that demonstration is awesome. Thank you. Brilliant. Any age. Music lives. Peace.

  • @alanbyrd1940
    @alanbyrd1940 10 місяців тому +1

    Sorry for just finding this..amazing breakdown

  • @joshmazzanti2396
    @joshmazzanti2396 4 роки тому +24

    R.I.P Lyle......

    • @hoffer54
      @hoffer54 4 роки тому +1

      Such a great loss to our continuum, peace.

  • @sidali60117
    @sidali60117 3 роки тому +4

    Thank so much sir to make Pat and Lyle's music that inspired us through the years with deep emotions so easy to understand .

  • @christianheidenreich
    @christianheidenreich 2 місяці тому

    This music is full of magic, full of positive power, love it so much.

  • @malekbenhamza1240
    @malekbenhamza1240 Рік тому +1

    Your videos are so rich of informations thank you

  • @cadizwilmo9687
    @cadizwilmo9687 Рік тому +2

    Enjoyed this very much!

  • @gzablodski
    @gzablodski 5 років тому +10

    I love this tune!!! Want to hear the chord progression over and over again.

  • @darnell828
    @darnell828 3 роки тому +3

    I have been in love with this piece for a long time. Yes, the piece is in 11/8. This can be seen in Pat's book of compositions. It starts on the &1 not 1. The explanation given in this video is really interesting to me. It does come out to 22 pulses. However its writen as the 8th note getting one so, count half as fast.

  • @robinmjones6197
    @robinmjones6197 3 роки тому +13

    ..i still cant clap along with the intro!!

    • @19Lotus67
      @19Lotus67 2 місяці тому

      took me a few years

    • @pangeaproxima3681
      @pangeaproxima3681 Місяць тому

      @@19Lotus67 _what?_ that's because you're not familiar with Afro-Cuban music.

    • @19Lotus67
      @19Lotus67 Місяць тому

      @@pangeaproxima3681 a fair and true assessment... :-(

  • @Glehost
    @Glehost 3 місяці тому +1

    PM has no peer when it comes to sense of melody, body of work, tenure, curiosity, virtuosity, and whatever else it is that made him the most important musical genius of our time.

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  3 місяці тому

      Pat is undoubtedly great, but let’s not forget Chick Corea. Also worth mentioning that a lot of the music of the Pat Metheny group was composed by Lyle Mays.

    • @Glehost
      @Glehost 3 місяці тому

      @@dr.guyshkolnik_composer Yeah, I absolutely love Chick and Lyle, but to me PM is greatest today. Too bad we can’t look up who’s the best, that would resolve about 50% of the arguments on here. The “best” is my favorite at the time.

  • @CSharp2K11
    @CSharp2K11 Місяць тому

    This is Explained So Eloquently and Simple without sacrificing the complexity and advanced theory!! THANK YOU!!!! I've loved this song since I first found it YEARS ago. Me and my gf, now wife would try to get the claps down! lol

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  Місяць тому

      Haha thank you so much! So glad you liked it! 😊 and yes! you can do it!! ♥️

  • @mariothepookster
    @mariothepookster 2 роки тому +1

    In the 1970s I watched the Norton-Harvard lectures by Leonard Bernstein on PBS. Although I was not a musician, I thoroughly enjoyed them. Your musical analysis of Pat Metheny/Lyle Mays First Circle reminded me of portions of those lectures especially the lecture where Mr. Bernstein analyses sections of Igor Stravinsky’s Right of Spring. Thank you for sharing your insightful analysis. I can tell you enjoy teaching.

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  2 роки тому

      Bernstein was a truly great and inspiring teacher, he's also my favorite conductor. I'm so glad you enjoyed this one Mario - thank you!

  • @eleetse6701
    @eleetse6701 Рік тому +1

    That is some serious music right there. I always love your playing Guy, and hearing you explain it is like a drink of water in the desert. So impressive. Perhaps it's because on one hand I don't know one damn thing about music, but on the other hand something in me knows everything about music as I am passionate about what I like and what sounds good to me. PMG hits that nerve every time. After 40 yrs it still sounds fresh and current. Thanks Guy!

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  Рік тому

      Of course you know music. You’ve heard/seen it in many different forms - concerts, movies scores theater, TV, radio, games. You know how it behaves. PMG is intricate, multi layered yet always clear. Great music.

  • @Pwj579
    @Pwj579 2 роки тому +1

    Pat Metheny and Jerry Goldsmith working together....never knew, but makes it even more awesome!

  • @johnbanzali3278
    @johnbanzali3278 Рік тому +1

    Beautiful soul 💖

  • @derrylgabel
    @derrylgabel 5 років тому +3

    I love major 3rd and minor 3rd modulations. Good teaching Doc!

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  5 років тому +3

      Thanks Derryl. This melody is brilliant. Notice how in both cases - the G major and the E major, the tonic is the last chord of the progression.
      I call it a "shy" tonic that reveals itself only a the end.

    • @derrylgabel
      @derrylgabel 5 років тому +1

      @@dr.guyshkolnik_composer Yes, great! I believe Holdsworth does this in Funnels if I'm not mistaken.

  • @paranjazz_barua
    @paranjazz_barua 4 місяці тому

    This is so simple concept but at first glance it looks so complex amd complicated. Wow thanks for this video I'll incorporate this concept in my playing

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  4 місяці тому

      Thank you, I’m so glad to hear that! Using it in your own music creation can be the best way of internalizing it!

  • @robrobson7101
    @robrobson7101 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks so much for this brilliant analysis especially your thoughts about the alternative progressions that Pat chose not to use! Each time he seemed to have taken the "road less travelled". It's the progressions he uses that makes this piece so interesting to listen to. However, there is a name missing from this analysis and that is Lyle Mays. Do you think It's Lyle who has composed these progressions because they seem for me to fall more in the sphere of the piano rather than the guitar and also they seem very typical of Lyle's compositional approach. Listening to the PMG live on a number of occasions you can hear these in Lyle's solo's with the group. BUT having said that what it is so clear is that it is the combination of these two brilliant musicians is a synergy that is quite exceptional. I am revisiting Pat and Lyle's work after some years of listening to other musicians and find it still exceptionally brilliant including of course the other musicians they played with over the years. Finally, I wonder if in his work with the pianist Gwilym Simcock (on the 2020 CD "From This Place"), Pat has found another almost perfect fit?
    Thanks again.

  • @00govan00
    @00govan00 2 місяці тому

    Gorgeous

  • @srwaite7
    @srwaite7 5 років тому +3

    Great stuff, Dr! Keep it coming 👌🏻

  • @andoniarrigorriaga2985
    @andoniarrigorriaga2985 5 років тому +2

    Amazing! thank you for this!

  • @AllanKoayTC
    @AllanKoayTC 5 років тому +10

    indeed, Pat has cited Bacharach as one of his influences
    .

  • @yacx24
    @yacx24 3 роки тому

    Perfect, Guy. Thank you. Much love!

  • @郭子勋
    @郭子勋 3 роки тому

    Only after your analysis that I realize this piece is so interesting!

  • @smacl61
    @smacl61 3 роки тому +1

    I listened to this in 1985 and couldn't go back. It's funny how music that speaks to you can really alter your life and perception. I travelled far to see PMG in the day. Now with Lyle gone a year ago it's hard to imagine PMG could never happen again.

  • @JeffBostick222
    @JeffBostick222 3 роки тому +6

    I hear Pedro Aznar singing over this :)

  • @jeffreyfeinstein5525
    @jeffreyfeinstein5525 2 роки тому

    ' why I keep trying... or have I just not brave to begin?
    NICE catch!

  • @theelevatepartnership
    @theelevatepartnership 2 роки тому +1

    Brilliant! Finally an explanation of the ambiguous rhythm’ is there a transcription of the score for solo piano.?

  • @jeffreyfeinstein5525
    @jeffreyfeinstein5525 2 роки тому

    'VERY effective teaching/study! ...i've listened to another once but his was just a few minutes long.
    IF I can get through this beautiful forest to the other side, I think I'll feel good walking through it!
    ....and Jerry Goldsmith, DEEP

  • @mikeo2420
    @mikeo2420 5 років тому +4

    You’ve outdone yourself on this series!
    Great work👍 Probably would be asking too much for a breakdown of Lyle’s solo too?

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  5 років тому +2

      Thanks, Mike. Lyle's way of crafting a solo deserve more than one video, and I might make one at some point, yes.

  • @mf2006-l7n
    @mf2006-l7n 4 роки тому

    one of my favorites...thank you!! superbrilliant analysis as ever!!

  • @crescentsi
    @crescentsi 4 роки тому +5

    Hi, that's an interesting analysis and observation of the syncopated rhythm(s) that Metheny employed. What struck me when I first heard this work was the influence of Steve Reich.

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  4 роки тому +2

      Interesting but I can intuitively understand now what made you refer it to Steve Reich. Yes. :)

    • @sethwexler6910
      @sethwexler6910 3 роки тому

      I agree that it’s minimalistic but the rhythms are syncopated just mixed meter. There’s a difference.

    • @crescentsi
      @crescentsi 3 роки тому

      @@sethwexler6910 Hi Seth, syncopated in the sense that certain beats in the bar have been emphasized. The main rhythm employed is atypical and quite convoluted, hence my use of the word "syncopated". A simpler rhythm could have been employed but, of course the piece would have been far less engaging. Syncopation is often associated with rhythmic alteration and, if I remember correctly, the main (opening) rhythm doesn't change much throughout the piece. So, yes I take your point but I think the use of the word "syncopation" would be apt in this instance. As for Steve Reich's influence, it's clear but it is one of a myriad of influences that Metheny and Mays employed in their compositions. Reich kind of returned the favour, if you will, with the powerful influence of Jazz in his music and the Reich/Metheny collaboration on "Electric Counterpoint".

  • @HarrisTrevorJ
    @HarrisTrevorJ 2 роки тому

    This has been the first introduction to PMG to my kids, from the vid, always called the Birdy song, if you have seen the DVD you will know. Thank you for breaking this down. This has always been a fav.

  • @kamilpeteraj762
    @kamilpeteraj762 3 роки тому +4

    This is pure gold. Instant subscribe. That parallel to Close to You was something I always felt but could never explain - until now.

  • @matt-spaiser
    @matt-spaiser 5 років тому +7

    Really interesting thinking of this being in G rather than C. I thought of it as being in C because not only does the main theme start in C, but it's also the first note of the piece. On the other hand, the piece ends on G. I think it's a G5 chord that implies major? The last chords of the piece are incredible, and I hope you will explain what's going on there!

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  5 років тому +3

      Matt, The thing is, Pat wrote the interlude in C, and the main theme in G. What's confusing is that the main theme also starts with a Cmaj7. But as you follow the course of it, you realize that this time the C is the IV degree. I think that starting it not from the tonic home gives that haunting quality to it...
      Lyle matched a vocal intro in C. So that's a lot of music in C at the beginning. But as the rest of the piece rely on the main theme, the focus moves to G. (They don't go back to the interlude or the opening).
      And those chords at the end... maybe my favorite ending in all music history. I'll talk about it when in the video about the entire tonal plan.

    • @matt-spaiser
      @matt-spaiser 5 років тому +2

      @@dr.guyshkolnik_composer Thank you for the explanation. It makes complete sense to me now. It's a great way of starting the piece in C and subtly moving it to G.
      I can't wait for that video where you talk about the end. Pat and Lyle really wrote fantastic endings. While they used fade-out endings to great effect in a number of tunes, they are often disappointing when compared to a fully composed ending. I really hate it when Pat solos over a fade and I can't hear where the solo is going, like in Yolanda You Learn and Red Sky. If they're going to play the tunes live they need an ending anyway. I suppose they already had a lot to come up with for an album, and a fade is better than a poor ending.

    • @alexeonbel4304
      @alexeonbel4304 Рік тому

      That’s probs because honestly C lydian is a very ambiguous mode to be in. It’s a very safe place to be musically and it adds a different kind of atmosphere to a piece of music. And it allows for all those modulations to E Major or A Major. It’s honestly a very cool song to study for modal harmonics IMO.

  • @BrunoCAGAS
    @BrunoCAGAS 5 років тому +3

    this guy knows

  • @heru5472
    @heru5472 3 роки тому +3

    I just realized that when I listen to the main part of First Circle (This guy plays it at 2:35) my body will automatically react by closing my eyes. This guy's body reaction is exactly just like mine. Is it only me and this guy? Or anybody here have the same body reaction as ours?

  • @tommegan410
    @tommegan410 4 роки тому +1

    Great analysis

  • @lugibi1
    @lugibi1 8 днів тому

    Congratulations 😊

  • @bubamurgulia2260
    @bubamurgulia2260 3 роки тому +1

    this is the best composition ever!

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  3 роки тому

      One day I will maybe get tired of listening to it, but I don't believe it's going to happen anytime soon :)

    • @bubamurgulia2260
      @bubamurgulia2260 3 роки тому

      @@dr.guyshkolnik_composer NEVER :) I`m listening it almost everyday since it was written. I`m pure "Methenyst" for 20 years approx.

    • @bubamurgulia2260
      @bubamurgulia2260 3 роки тому

      @@dr.guyshkolnik_composer First Circle & Have you heard are incredible for me

  • @frederickakon3584
    @frederickakon3584 4 роки тому

    As usual very accurate. I notice every time I play a PMG song where are the major/minor modulation. In Phase Dance the Bm7/Bbmaj7 is a D/Dm modulation. In First Circle the G/E is a Em/E modulation and there are plenty of that stuff in the PMG compositions.

  • @NikitaD1314
    @NikitaD1314 4 місяці тому

    תודה רבה!!

  • @johnbanzali3278
    @johnbanzali3278 3 роки тому

    Thanks!nice video.

  • @musoangelo
    @musoangelo 5 років тому

    Wow. Thank you.

  • @fabiencourtoistapping
    @fabiencourtoistapping Рік тому

    GÉNIAL

  • @TiagoLageira
    @TiagoLageira 5 років тому +1

    Awesome!

  • @AlejandroShredderDJ
    @AlejandroShredderDJ 3 роки тому

    Grácias por esto Dr

  • @frack989
    @frack989 5 років тому +1

    No way... I have been playing my self-taught (ie Ear transcription) for 25 years... just heard the BB within it... nice

  • @Abc-nz2yi
    @Abc-nz2yi Рік тому

    Your videos are amazing. I want to ask You if you can analize the song "If I could" from Pat. I think it is one of his most beautiful pieces. Thanks a lot for the knowledge you keep spreading

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  Рік тому +1

      Thank you so much! That’s a wonderful song! My Pat Metheny/Lyle Mays project is completed for now. Check out the videos I made on The Bat, a wonderful ballad from the album Offramp.

    • @Abc-nz2yi
      @Abc-nz2yi Рік тому

      @@dr.guyshkolnik_composer thanks for your suggestion. That is a great song too

    • @Abc-nz2yi
      @Abc-nz2yi Рік тому

      I will check it

  • @diegomorenoism
    @diegomorenoism 4 роки тому

    Gracias genio esa música es una maravilla 👏👏👏👏

  • @VinylRundown
    @VinylRundown 5 років тому +4

    When are u gonna release an album - Piano versions of Metheny tunes....?

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  5 років тому +1

      I must say, I love playing these tunes but when I release an album I like to write my own music. Like on this album here: www.allaboutjazz.com/landing-niogi-alessa-records-jazz-and-art-review-by-mark-sullivan.php

    • @やまちゃんの一言
      @やまちゃんの一言 4 роки тому

      Beautiful performance and commentary.
      Carpenters is my favorite,too!
      I wonna see your performance. Wow!

  • @hugocra
    @hugocra 5 років тому +1

    excelente doc!!!

  • @AllanKoayTC
    @AllanKoayTC 5 років тому +3

    clap-clap clap clap-clap clap clap clap-clap clap-clap clap clap ...
    it's very surprising that some seasoned musicians can't follow First Circle's clapping. i got it after only a few listens.

  • @anotherluckyone
    @anotherluckyone 5 років тому

    Thanks for a great analysis.

  • @giuseppe_corea
    @giuseppe_corea 3 роки тому

    Nice👏👏👏👏
    Very nice👍👍👍👏👏👏👏😀

  • @Realiquidation
    @Realiquidation 4 роки тому

    35 שנה, אחרי ששמעתי לראשונה את האלבום בהופעה חיה, שהיווה שיר הערש שלי במשך תקופה ארוכה ויושב לי בפלייליסט כשאני על האופניים החשמליות, אני פוגשת את הניתוח שלך.
    לא אכביר במילים לגבי קוצר הניתוח (לטעמי), אבל כן אודה לך, על שבכלל טרחת, העונג היה כולו שלי.
    ברכות.
    נ.ב. לא בדקתי את שאר הסירטונים שלך, אך אודה לך אם תואיל להקדיש זמן לניתוח של straight on red

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  4 роки тому

      אהלן! תודה רבה על התגובה!
      יש 4 סרטים על first circle! :)
      עשיתי כל כך הרבה על הלהקה הזאת, אני עכשיו עובד על מלחינים אחרים ותופעות אחרות. אבל יש לי בקנה עוד אחד על פט.ולגבי Straight on Red זה קטע אהוב ובאמת חשבתי עליו בשלב מסויים. זה קטע שפט מתאר כסיוט מבחינת השילוב של כלים אלקטרוניים - אבל.. הם עשות את זה :)

  • @alfandada
    @alfandada 4 роки тому

    inspiring!

  • @SamGlaser
    @SamGlaser 3 роки тому

    well done Guy!

  • @krellis1000
    @krellis1000 17 днів тому

    Having given up trying to play guitar like Pat Metheny, I find myself wondering if I could play piano like Lyle

  • @sakismousdrakas9694
    @sakismousdrakas9694 5 років тому

    DR Guy, hello from Greece...wpnderfull job...

  • @terrat3048
    @terrat3048 4 місяці тому

    I tried doing the clapping at other times unsuccessfully, and your explanation was helpful and did the trick. But it's really hard. I wonder if Pat's musicians had to practise it...

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  4 місяці тому +1

      Be sure both Pat and the rest of the band practiced it. It was a new rhythm pattern that needed to be absorbed!

    • @sega62s
      @sega62s 4 місяці тому

      @@dr.guyshkolnik_composerI am practicing it your way, at 75% of speed and my brain is not use to this complexity , huge thanks !!! ✌️🍻✌️🎼🍻

  • @jeffreyfeinstein5525
    @jeffreyfeinstein5525 Рік тому

    ...you are carrying the legacy of orijginal collective.
    Ah'd been to a few other teachings of this composition.
    The element of your gentle soul through, (until tecognized) a rugged domain remains almost UNN-believable!

  • @marcoferri6841
    @marcoferri6841 2 роки тому

    the clap at the beginning is a flamenco? (a friend said that in Sevilla every one in the crowd clapped in time)

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  2 роки тому

      Seems like Flamenco influenced - the Idea of clapping on the 2nd eight-note of the beat :)

  • @beno.-
    @beno.- 4 роки тому

    whos playing that goddamed tambourine off camera, got me bugged

  • @wordgourmet
    @wordgourmet 7 місяців тому

    I really wish you hadn't made the connection to Burt Bacharach. Regardless of how apt it might be, Close To You is cringingly sappy, whereas First Circle opens into something transcendent. IMO.

  • @acer1600
    @acer1600 2 роки тому +1

    Dr. Guy, how to learn the clapping 😉? You're to fast haha

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  2 роки тому +1

      I learned them slowly, I'm not good at math :)
      count: 1-2-3 1-2 1-2-3 1-2 1-2
      1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2 1-2

  • @kimberlyandersonamft3031
    @kimberlyandersonamft3031 5 років тому

    Yummy. So yummy.

  • @pitopito64
    @pitopito64 2 роки тому +2

    In P.M. music I feel a constant sense of tension (where I am? where are we heading to?) and then resolution (oh I'm back home...which isn't the one I used to be before). This is what I like besides technical (but useful) considerations...
    First Circle is an amazing composition....but I like also the "easier" Last Train Home...and "Close to Home" (by Lyle Mays)...
    It is no accident that I have used the noun "home" lots of times here...this music sounds to me like a JOURNEY to WHAT WE ARE...to WHERE we belong to...

  • @sega62s
    @sega62s 4 місяці тому

    1:21

  • @davidcourreges2595
    @davidcourreges2595 Рік тому

    You overcomplicate. It’s a 6 followed by a 5. All you show here is the first subdivision of the basic pattern. It falls so easily into that “11” when you think of it in terms of the quarter note (I assume the meters in 6/4 + 5/4). I know you’re trying to capture the clapping pattern, but it’s just simple subdivision and accents.

  • @srwaite7
    @srwaite7 5 років тому

    3+2+3+2+2+3+3+2+2=22

    • @hugocra
      @hugocra 5 років тому +1

      Claro. son dos grupos de 11

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  5 років тому +2

      @@hugocra Es un grupo de 12 y otro de 10! :)

    • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
      @dr.guyshkolnik_composer  5 років тому +2

      The question mark was because after Pat invented the pattern,
      he said he "was looking for solutions to the question the pattern seemed to be asking"

    • @matt-spaiser
      @matt-spaiser 5 років тому

      @@dr.guyshkolnik_composer What a great way to write music! Come up with a question, then answer it. I'm surprised it took Pat until 1990 to write a tune called "Question and Answer"! I think that by coming up with such a unique rhythm for First Circle, some of the piece writes itself. The main theme and Lyle's intro and interlude follow the pattern Pat came up with. But Pat was creative enough to change the meters to add and release tension. He changes the meters in this piece like others change chords.

    • @srwaite7
      @srwaite7 5 років тому +3

      Dr. Guy Shkolnik I was just playing around. I happen to be flying back from a trip and the passenger next to me was saying how their favorite number was 22. I recommended listening to First Circle 🕶

  • @musoangelo
    @musoangelo 5 років тому

    Wow. Thank you.