Just wrapped my Orbea Rise (first time wrapper). I think I came up with a new Pro-Tip… There are areas on the wrap sheet that are waste(unused). Cut out the good size piece. Use this piece to test your slip mix solution and adjust slippiness as needed.
Isopropyl alcohol isn't mentioned by anyone as a replacement for slip solution.. It's mentioned as a way to neutralize slip solution so edges are easier to stick down.
We would consider using iso as a more pro method... it can also cause damage to the adhesives if not used correctly. As reference, none of our installers at our own facilities use iso. Simply their 'perfect' solution and heat if needed.
you can use distilled water for sure, although it is not required. The mineral content of water around the world is different and along with personal preference will play into finding the best mixture for you.
On my third frame I found the perfect mix to be 3 glops (that’s what I call what comes out of the crappy packet) in 700ml of distilled water to be perfection. It does need a little heat to get the hard edges down but makes getting bubbles out super easy.
Hey Peter, the slip solution mix is definitely a 'personal preference' thing. Some people like a quicker adhesive, some a slower. Each method has its pros and cons -- we always suggest testing the mix based on how you are finding the install. And just to touch on it -- we did measure 2-4 drops to be about 0.5ml. However 'drops' are an open ended measurement unit, so when in doubt use 0.5ml, personally, I use 0.6ml and a little syringe to measure to get my perfect solution.
@@RideWrap my packet was cold as house was cold and measured 3.5 drops. It seems to be working well, small pieces slide around but not too much. Larger pieces allowing lift too with moderate force but then stick down well. I have the fan heater on to make the frame and ambient temp around just warm of room temperature and helps a lot. For a large bubble (4-5mm) on one of my first laid pieces can I pierce it and heal using a heat gun carefully from afar? Or just leave it, luckily it's on the inner edge of the bike and the wheel will largely distract from vision. I have the fork kit and not sure to remove the stock stickers with heat and put them on top of the wrap (I got matte for the domain forks). Cheers
@@peterwood2633 If anyone needs full support, just know that our customer service is here for you and will be quicker than any social platform. - Heat will not 'heal' a pierced or cut film. Bubbles with solution in them will dry out a little while after install, thats what we would recommend as opposed to bringing sharp objects to your bike. - If you remove the stock fork stickers you will not get them off in a clean way to re-apply. Recommend protecting on top (will have some ghosting around sticker edge), OR peel em and check out Slik Graphics for new ones on top (maybe even in a different color)
@@leonkolodzie4862 johnsons baby shampoo is a viable replacement for our sachet. Should be similar ratio, but as always, youll need to find the right ratio for your preference.
First, thank you for putting together this video (and the others). It is helpful but I do have a question and suggestion Are you stating that roughly 2-4 “drops” of solution will 0.5 ML in a syringe when drawn up? This is confusing as technically, per google, there are 10 drops in .5 ml (or 0.05 ml per drop). I suspect the difference is because your described slip-solution individual drop (estimated as the size that would cover the surface area of a dime or the finger nail on your pinky finger) is actually much larger in volume than the universal standard single drop ml equivalent of 0.05 ml It would be great if you could take that slip solution “drop” and quantify in terms of ML (I suspect it’s around 0.1-0.2 ml). Then I would have more faith/trust in using the syringe approach. Sorry to be a math geek here and I know as a result I’d be shunned if ever we met, but I’m concerned I’m going to really screw up the solution proportions if using a syringe to draw up starting amounts although the syringe method seems a better, less sloppy/wasteful technique if accurate
Default to syringe method, we have now started to include these. As well - slip solution is not something to screw up, you can run a weaker or stronger mix depending on preferences. We always suggest tweaking as you go based on the experience you are having ---> sticking too fast and many bubbles then add soap concentrate, troubles with the edges staying down then dilute with water (or flush the edges with water from a second spray bottle).
Frustrating video- the music, the idea that it is not science, etc. Give customers a chance to succeed by making it doable right from the box. Maybe include a syringe?
Just wrapped my Orbea Rise (first time wrapper). I think I came up with a new Pro-Tip… There are areas on the wrap sheet that are waste(unused). Cut out the good size piece. Use this piece to test your slip mix solution and adjust slippiness as needed.
100% agree.
What’s the obsession with annoying background music! Very difficult to hear the speaker.
I found having bottles with different solutions was super helpful!
It would be great if y'all would include a 1ml syringe in the kit.
Thanks for the feedback, included as of spring 2023.
@@RideWrap do you guys still include the syringe?
@@JonathanRamirez-yo7oz We do with every kit now!
Isopropyl alcohol isn't mentioned by anyone as a replacement for slip solution.. It's mentioned as a way to neutralize slip solution so edges are easier to stick down.
We would consider using iso as a more pro method... it can also cause damage to the adhesives if not used correctly.
As reference, none of our installers at our own facilities use iso. Simply their 'perfect' solution and heat if needed.
If you gave us the slip solution in a proper dropper bottle (think eye drops) then it would be much easier to get the right amount of slip solution.
Thanks for the feedback, starting this spring we are sending a pipette (as seen in video) for measuring within the kits.
Would using distilled water make mixing the slip solution more predictable and consistent?
you can use distilled water for sure, although it is not required. The mineral content of water around the world is different and along with personal preference will play into finding the best mixture for you.
Do you spray both sides of the wrap or just one side?
We tend to spray both.
my box didnt have de slip solution what can i uses isthed
Why not include the correct size syringe in the kit?
Included as of summer '23
On my third frame I found the perfect mix to be 3 glops (that’s what I call what comes out of the crappy packet) in 700ml of distilled water to be perfection. It does need a little heat to get the hard edges down but makes getting bubbles out super easy.
So do you ACTUALLY want us to use 0.5ml?
As someone below commented that will be more than 2-4 drops
Hey Peter, the slip solution mix is definitely a 'personal preference' thing. Some people like a quicker adhesive, some a slower. Each method has its pros and cons -- we always suggest testing the mix based on how you are finding the install.
And just to touch on it -- we did measure 2-4 drops to be about 0.5ml. However 'drops' are an open ended measurement unit, so when in doubt use 0.5ml, personally, I use 0.6ml and a little syringe to measure to get my perfect solution.
@@RideWrap my packet was cold as house was cold and measured 3.5 drops. It seems to be working well, small pieces slide around but not too much. Larger pieces allowing lift too with moderate force but then stick down well. I have the fan heater on to make the frame and ambient temp around just warm of room temperature and helps a lot. For a large bubble (4-5mm) on one of my first laid pieces can I pierce it and heal using a heat gun carefully from afar? Or just leave it, luckily it's on the inner edge of the bike and the wheel will largely distract from vision. I have the fork kit and not sure to remove the stock stickers with heat and put them on top of the wrap (I got matte for the domain forks). Cheers
@@peterwood2633 If anyone needs full support, just know that our customer service is here for you and will be quicker than any social platform.
- Heat will not 'heal' a pierced or cut film. Bubbles with solution in them will dry out a little while after install, thats what we would recommend as opposed to bringing sharp objects to your bike.
- If you remove the stock fork stickers you will not get them off in a clean way to re-apply. Recommend protecting on top (will have some ghosting around sticker edge), OR peel em and check out Slik Graphics for new ones on top (maybe even in a different color)
Is there a way to make my own slip solution I ran out of yours
We recommend a tearless baby shampoo (which is very very gentle soap)
@@RideWrapdo you use the same amount of baby shampoo as of slipsolution?
@@leonkolodzie4862 johnsons baby shampoo is a viable replacement for our sachet. Should be similar ratio, but as always, youll need to find the right ratio for your preference.
First, thank you for putting together this video (and the others). It is helpful but I do have a question and suggestion
Are you stating that roughly 2-4 “drops” of solution will 0.5 ML in a syringe when drawn up? This is confusing as technically, per google, there are 10 drops in .5 ml (or 0.05 ml per drop). I suspect the difference is because your described slip-solution individual drop (estimated as the size that would cover the surface area of a dime or the finger nail on your pinky finger) is actually much larger in volume than the universal standard single drop ml equivalent of 0.05 ml
It would be great if you could take that slip solution “drop” and quantify in terms of ML (I suspect it’s around 0.1-0.2 ml). Then I would have more faith/trust in using the syringe approach.
Sorry to be a math geek here and I know as a result I’d be shunned if ever we met, but I’m concerned I’m going to really screw up the solution proportions if using a syringe to draw up starting amounts although the syringe method seems a better, less sloppy/wasteful technique if accurate
Default to syringe method, we have now started to include these.
As well - slip solution is not something to screw up, you can run a weaker or stronger mix depending on preferences. We always suggest tweaking as you go based on the experience you are having ---> sticking too fast and many bubbles then add soap concentrate, troubles with the edges staying down then dilute with water (or flush the edges with water from a second spray bottle).
Music is very annoying. Please get to the point!
is this a joke honestly a syringe multiple bottles smh.
Slip solution is very user subjective, you can test using a single bottle and just change as you go. We include a syringe as of summer '23.
Frustrating video- the music, the idea that it is not science, etc. Give customers a chance to succeed by making it doable right from the box. Maybe include a syringe?
We were able to supply and include a syringe starting in summer 23
Thanks, It was very helpful. @@RideWrap
@@RideWrap ordered Jan 2024, no pipette/syringe .. Did you stop supplying them?
@@stuartfenning1879 my order came by today, it contained a syringe