Review: Irish A-Class Locomotive Range from Irish Railway Models (IRM) incl. IRM1115 and IRM1103

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  • @Curlypawz
    @Curlypawz 2 роки тому +5

    Loved the review - thorough, well structured and well presented. There are some great liveries there and the locomotives are a great advert for the forthcoming 37, 55 and 92. I hope that Crossley engine sounds can make it across to the Metrovick Class 28s too!

  • @retrocd7991
    @retrocd7991 2 роки тому +7

    IRM have put themselves firmly into Irish railway modelling history! The A’s are excellent, even better then the MM121 somehow! I got A30 as it was the only A class variant to run on the “West Cork” Railway. Silver looks absolutely stunning (even through the silver is just a primer for CIE “oil black” livery!)
    As I said in another comment, the A class never had a Northern Ireland variant. The only livery it lacks as far as I can see is lined green (as in lined with the lighter colour of green)
    Technically the only other livery gap “Galway livery” which only 1 A was painted in, even at that it was half painted, and already withdrawn! The livery was applied to the loco to see what the upcoming 201 GM class was going to look like with the yellow stripes ect.

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому

      The Silver undercoat is probably my favourite so I'm going to cover A1 on it's own as it deserves it.
      Yes, I was mistaken on the NIR A-Class front which should be a C-Class. I think I fell foul to a photoshop job a few months which I've been trying to track down again. So IRM have actually covered all the major bases at least. I can remember seeing a photo of the Galway liveried version - it looked gross to be honest so it's no harm it never saw service!

  • @ciaranburke3243
    @ciaranburke3243 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks for pointing the clicking issue as mine does the same thing in certain directions, great review 👍

    • @retrocd7991
      @retrocd7991 2 роки тому +1

      I can’t unhear it in mine either!

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому

      Thanks for sharing guys. Will share any findings on this when I get them.

  • @gerrybvr
    @gerrybvr 2 роки тому +3

    Got A39r with sound. A lot of money for a lot of loco. Superb quality and sound IMO. By far the best model I have. Saving up to get more :)

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому

      Couldn't agree more Gerry. Best to get them now while they're still available through the retail channels.

  • @ArcadiaJunctionHobbies
    @ArcadiaJunctionHobbies 2 роки тому +4

    What a magnificent model of a classic. Your channel is outstanding. Thanks.

  • @RYNT1157
    @RYNT1157 2 роки тому +3

    Great loco and great detail , 75 mph was the top speed for the A class and I would not worry about the crawl speed as the A had a bit of power in notch 1 as against the trickle on the GM locos. It had a bit more in the 1980s when new load regulators were fitted.
    Great review. I am the man upfront in the book and was pleased to be part of this. Drove the A class in service 1981 to 1995. Drove A39r in 2010 and 2016 been the last I worked in service as 039. Well done IRM. The sound was recorded in the engine room but I would think done outside the exhaust sound would be more audible.

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Tom, it's an absolute privilege to get your input and insights as someone who has lived these locos through a golden era in Irish Railways that many on this channel will remember well. Your acknowledgment of what IRM have achieved here is praise indeed. Many thanks again for your commentary. Rgds, Eugene

    • @RYNT1157
      @RYNT1157 2 роки тому

      @@EuviRail Your welcome Eugene 👍

    • @RYNT1157
      @RYNT1157 2 роки тому +1

      If you want to see some A class action I have a couple of videos on my You Tube channel.

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому +1

      @@RYNT1157 Just checked them out. Some excellent footage which should be of interest to anyone interest in Irish trains. Great stuff.

    • @oscarosullivan4513
      @oscarosullivan4513 2 роки тому +1

      Is there one in traction at the moment

  • @doolytom
    @doolytom 2 роки тому +2

    Great review thanks, bought a couple.. your review has tempted me to purchase another one.. Porridge for Xmas Dinner again! 😂

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому

      Thanks for that. The sacrifices we make for our models!

  • @tenterdentown2452
    @tenterdentown2452 2 роки тому +4

    Full marks to Accurascale for having the courage to produce a range of Irish locos. Hornby could never be bothered, and Bachmann has only produced a few items. With this collection of locos, an Irish Railways themed layout is more of a practical proposition. It is slightly disappointing that Irish Railway Models is a British firm with production facilities in China. Well, at least you sound authentically Irish! Thanks for uploading.

    • @donnachaphelan8397
      @donnachaphelan8397 2 роки тому +4

      The are authentically Irish. Irish Railway Models Limited is an Irish firm - registered with the CRO in 2016. Their Accurascale business was incorporated with the UK's Companies House in October 2019 - presumably to coincide with the end of the Brexit transition period.

    • @Ste1952
      @Ste1952 2 роки тому

      Indeed Irish Railway Models are an Irish company headquartered in Carrickmines, Dublin and with multiple Irish staff members :)

    • @oscarosullivan4513
      @oscarosullivan4513 2 роки тому

      Irish rail models is older

    • @mccarronfamily
      @mccarronfamily 2 роки тому

      @@oscarosullivan4513 who?

  • @terryhiggins9700
    @terryhiggins9700 2 роки тому +2

    I looked forward for these to be released. Then I looked forward for your review, which is Always top notch. And you didn't disappoint. I can't wait for the Crossley engine sound.👍

  • @johnlevey9935
    @johnlevey9935 2 роки тому +3

    Just bought A39r mainly because I had a cab ride in it at Downpatrick. Love the weight and detail. Have now got the EMD sound decoder which I am also impressed with. As you yourself I have a real soft spot for the 071 class ( suffer a bit from hand rails coming detached) but the A class is surprisingly good. After your review I am tempted to go for one of the remaining numbers. I have cabbed A55 in Hells Kitchen!

    • @retrocd7991
      @retrocd7991 2 роки тому

      I was surprised A55 did not get lined green livery!

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому

      You did well to get A39r as they have been very popular. A lovely classic livery. Probably worth looking at one of the Crossley's like A55 alright to get the different look and sound when it comes.

    • @johnlevey9935
      @johnlevey9935 2 роки тому

      Certainly if 55 had been lined green I would have gone for it. I’m deliberating hard on whether to get it in black but your comment on the Crossley Decoder is interesting. Also your comment on potential “used” values on e bay may influence a wavering mind!!

  • @James-ih4gz
    @James-ih4gz 2 роки тому +3

    I have a good few of these they are lovely runners. I'm on dc. I got the silver special edition and the special edition black and tan for Irish traction group.

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому

      Excellent. Thanks James.

    • @oscarosullivan4513
      @oscarosullivan4513 2 роки тому

      Orange and black with white strip is the official term I think. Black and tan was a term for the RIC special constabulary. As a loco livery it survived until 1978 and the 90’s on the Cravens and park royals

    • @James-ih4gz
      @James-ih4gz 2 роки тому

      @@oscarosullivan4513 black and tan is the official livery name for sure.

  • @BritishRail60062
    @BritishRail60062 2 роки тому +2

    Enjoyed the review. I am not fussed about the liveries as I like them all to be honest but when I get one. I will get the orange and black one.

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому

      Yeah, all of these are great models so you can't go wrong.

    • @oscarosullivan4513
      @oscarosullivan4513 2 роки тому

      CIE supertrain, Irish rail black and orange, black and tan

  • @gblr1
    @gblr1 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent review, lots of great info and to the point, thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge with us.

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому

      Thanks Gerry. Glad it was helpful.

  • @michaelwhite8031
    @michaelwhite8031 Рік тому +1

    I remember coming over from England and travelling to Carrick on Suir in the black and orange train.

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  Рік тому +1

      Those were the days. Thanks for sharing.

    • @michaelwhite8031
      @michaelwhite8031 Рік тому

      Yes, l miss my mother and those halcyon days. Enjoyed the review, thanks.

  • @Ste1952
    @Ste1952 2 роки тому +4

    The A never carried any NIR livery

  • @donnachaphelan8397
    @donnachaphelan8397 2 роки тому +4

    Great review! You mentioned the absence of a NIR variant but I don't think there were any NIR variants of the A class. NIR did get some of the A class' baby brother, the C class ... and I'd love to see IRM bring out a C class too!

    • @James-ih4gz
      @James-ih4gz 2 роки тому

      If i remember northern Ireland got there own special diesel's one is up in ulster transport museum

    • @retrocd7991
      @retrocd7991 2 роки тому +1

      Yes the A’s never got nir variants but somone photoshoped the livery onto it on flicker, looked superb on the A’s shame the A did not get the same treatment
      Also Northern Ireland had 2 hundslets 101 class locos (like the one in preserved), a few 071 class (still running), 201 class (first nir now enterprise) but the north mostly

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Donnacha. Yeah, it looks like the photos I've seen of the NIR were indeed a C Class which I know is on many people's wishlist as well.

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому

      I have 111 (waiting to pull the IRM Mk2s). Really sorry I missed 112 and 113 when they were available. Very nice loco/livery combination. On my wishlist for a re-run by MM.

    • @James-ih4gz
      @James-ih4gz 2 роки тому +1

      @@EuviRail NIR 101 Class they ran on the belfast to dublin enterprise be great if irm made them to go with there mk 2 enterprise they are making at the moment

  • @johnlevey9935
    @johnlevey9935 2 роки тому +2

    Following my deliberations on whether to go for A55 in black I have done a complete about turn and ordered A56 in ir super train livery. I have a six truck rake of ir ballast wagons just looking for a loco to pull them. To be honest these locos are so good that I just had to purchase another!

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому

      Excellent John. You should get great use for A56 as it will cover a lot of ground.

  • @peterflute2817
    @peterflute2817 2 роки тому +1

    Man they are fast I love the Irish old trains I'd love to own them

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому +1

      These are superb locos Peter so take any chance you have left to grab one before they can only be bought for silly money on eBay. Worst case you can sell it on for at least what you paid for it.

  • @alanrobertson9790
    @alanrobertson9790 2 роки тому +2

    Too many forthcoming new UK models coming along for my limited funds but these Irish models look great.

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому

      Thanks Alan. 100% understand - and there's the cost of rolling stock as well which can be even more than the loco cost. A lot of interesting UK models coming as we know...

  • @petertate5741
    @petertate5741 2 роки тому +1

    Absolutely fantastic review mate.Beautiful models better than a lot of UK new models and even at £170.00 its cheaper than a UK equivalent.My favourite is the A46 Crossley engined to run with Southern rake.Well done buddy,very enjoyable and informative review.👍

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Peter. Yeah, A46 with some Maunsell or Bullied Southern coaches should be a good looking combination. From old photos it appeared to run with variety of stock, very all on the same train.

    • @oscarosullivan4513
      @oscarosullivan4513 2 роки тому

      The black and tan livery name wasn’t the official one

    • @oscarosullivan4513
      @oscarosullivan4513 2 роки тому

      Bulleid ended his career in Ireland with the standardisation of coaches being his greatest success

  • @paulisnotonfire
    @paulisnotonfire 2 роки тому +2

    While Irish rail isn't something that I'd typically collect and outside of this one it's just British stock, when I saw these I did go for one as they're very interesting and unique looking locomotives.
    And honestly I'm glad I did. I went for A30 in the silver (I was tempted by the A1 or one of the Irish Rail liveries) and as far as locomotives I've picked up this year go, it is tied for the top spot with Dapols Class 68.
    I did have a run with it round my R3/R4 curves to see if I could hear any clicking and unfortunately I didn't hear anything out of the ordinary.
    My only criticism of the model that I can even think of is access to the axles/gears. How to remove the panel/bogie frame isn't entirely clear and the information sheet/booklet makes no mention of how to remove it. Otherwise fantastic model
    Cheers

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому

      Thanks for sharing Paul. Yeah, there's something about the silver livery even if it was an undercoat as many folks have commented!

    • @oscarosullivan4513
      @oscarosullivan4513 2 роки тому

      Silver wasn’t an undercoat

    • @oscarosullivan4513
      @oscarosullivan4513 2 роки тому

      Irish rail only came into existence in 1987 before that it was CIE railways

  • @johnlevey9935
    @johnlevey9935 2 роки тому +2

    Just received A 56. On this locomotive two of the handrails to the cabs were disconnected at one end before unboxing. On removing A56 from the packaging very carefully both these handrails came away. When put back in place they just fell out again. I am loathe to use glue so will probably leave them off. I guess with the extent of detailing on these at some point there is always a risk of something coming loose. My other loco A39r is fine. I just mention this to remind purchasers that with products of this detail unboxing and handling needs to be very careful and as in my case to be aware that bits can come off even with the best of handling (or no handling at all!)

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому

      Hi John, thanks for sharing. I'd advise contacting IRM support to get some advice on how to deal with the hand rails. It's also good for them to know of issues like this. In fairness the A-Class hasn't been too bad handling wise - the 121s were a lot more challenging! Thanks for bringing up my recommendation to check out each model you have purchased as soon as possible to make sure it is fully intact and fully working. If left, you could end up with a dud on your hands in a years time that is out of warranty and impossible to sell on. You only need a few feet of track to do some basic testing and it's well worth taking the time to do it. Rgds, Eugene

    • @johnlevey9935
      @johnlevey9935 2 роки тому

      Yes, I have been in contact with IRM who are very helpful. I must stress that I was not making a complaint as this can happen to any model with this level of detailing. I have two 121’s and a 201 all of which are ok. As I said in another posting I have two 071’s both on which the side rail fixing has come adrift a little bit. As this is one piece generally it is fairly easy to push them back in place without affecting the whole rail.
      Again I must emphasise how good these models are in detail and performance; just need handling very carefully.

  • @petercullen6516
    @petercullen6516 2 роки тому +2

    I noticed that the axle sensor cable was adrift at one end on the first loco! it is at 5:49 to 5:59 on the vid. Mine was the same and I am wondering should it be glued or is it a push fit. Great review!

    • @terryhiggins9700
      @terryhiggins9700 2 роки тому +1

      Well spotted.

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Peter. I had sent 054 back to IRM to look at a few issues and have just got it back so I'll need to check it out.

  • @alanrmurphy
    @alanrmurphy 2 роки тому +1

    Interestingly, Jennifer E Kirk also had oil leaking from the loco when she unboxed hers in her review. Something to look out for when my loco arrives next week.

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому +1

      Fingers crossed all is Ok with yours Alan so that you can be running it over the holidays.

    • @alanrmurphy
      @alanrmurphy 2 роки тому

      @@EuviRail Out arrived today and looks stunning! I've run it in fiesta and backwards and it's so smooth, even on my regular DC track "layout". There is some oil residue on the underside of the wheels but less than in other videos I've seen

  • @nigelsabin1713
    @nigelsabin1713 2 роки тому +4

    Hi,
    I cannot understand why you don't have more subscribers than you do!
    You do a very detailed description off all the locomotives you review, plus running etc!!!.
    COME ON UTUBERS. SUBSCRIBE!!!!!

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому

      Hi Nigel, thanks for that!

  • @fermoyroadjunction3814
    @fermoyroadjunction3814 2 роки тому +2

    Very good and interesting review.

  • @timothymorris814
    @timothymorris814 2 роки тому +1

    Su[erb and informative review as always thankyou Tim

  • @grahamcleary6427
    @grahamcleary6427 2 роки тому +1

    I enjoyed your review, just one point, I don't remember A Class in Northern Ireland railway system but I remember a few C class loco in the Northern Ireland Railway. I believe 5 were transferred to them in the 80's but I could be incorrect and one had a fault and was never used.

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Graham. A few folks have highlighted correctly that the C-Class was in the NIR livery alright and not the A-Class.

  • @DeanBadger37
    @DeanBadger37 2 роки тому

    I had an issue with the catching on my A39r. The speedo cable catches but that's a simple issue as it can be bent away slightly, the bigger problem was the brake rigging catching. With my model the brake rigging on the radiator end had caught on the small silver part under the body on both sides while in transit and snapped, with one side taking off a brake shoe with it. IRM did supply replacement parts that I was able to fit easy enough. The issue seems to stem from the brake shoe being clipped into the side frame a little high so making the top with the rigging foul the body. Their is play on the bogie pivot that gives enough room for a suitable spacer to lift the bogie a mm or so to clear most of the catching that seems to happen but I haven't found anything suitable yet.

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому +1

      Hi Dean, thanks for posting. I've since resolved my issues - it required the removal of some small underbody detail under one of the rear cab doors. I will cover it in my A1 review when I will update my review of the A-Class in general. A1 actually didn't have the problem but 4 out of 8 of my models did have this problem. There are other potential sources of 'catching' around the model as well which you have encountered.

  • @farric1
    @farric1 2 роки тому +1

    Are the coaches still available? I would like one of these locos but not sure if the rolling stock is also easy to find.

    • @oscarosullivan4513
      @oscarosullivan4513 2 роки тому

      There is a book called modelling Irish railways and it has a list if British outline coaches that can be made Irish

  • @noelruxton6819
    @noelruxton6819 2 роки тому +1

    Have noticed that there appears to be variances on clearances between the bogies and the chassis on some models. However, as I don't have a way to run these loco's at present, I cannot say for certain if this would impact the running characteristics, but certainly turning the bogies by hand while on a flat surface on certain models, indicates that the bogies are making contact with certain detailing parts on the chassis. Another issue on some of mine is the quality of finish on the cab front handrails which detracts from an otherwise excellent model.

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому

      Thanks Noel. The clearance can appear to be very tight but still be fine. Let use know once you get a chance to run them. If you're not happy with the handrails I'd take a few photos and send them on to IRM support to look at. Eugene

  • @alanrmurphy
    @alanrmurphy 2 роки тому +1

    Will IRM be producing coaches for these locos?

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому +1

      We live in hope Alan and I expect we will see an announcement at least in 2022. In the meantime, Murphy Models are due to deliver us some Mk2 coaching stock in the new year - www.murphymodels.com/.

    • @oscarosullivan4513
      @oscarosullivan4513 2 роки тому

      @@EuviRail Glad to hear

  • @franburke
    @franburke 2 роки тому +2

    NIR did not have A Classes.

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому

      Thanks Fran, it looks like there is a fake photoshopped version doing the rounds and it's the C Class that was in NIR.

  • @David-ci1vn
    @David-ci1vn 2 роки тому +1

    Do people model to 21mm gauge?

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому

      Hi David, yes there seems to be a good few out there working in 21mm - did a quick check on RMWeb: www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/search/&q=21mm&quick=1

  • @sapphirejunction8993
    @sapphirejunction8993 2 роки тому +1

    They are great looking models but have too much investment in Accurascale/Revolution/Cavalex for the UK outline thus won't be able to get one unfortunately.
    Now got a question in regards to the all-round window glazing and wouldn't mind your opinion on it, basically looking at the windows do you think they have that double glazed/prism look and whether they could have been more flush so to speak.
    It appears to be same as on the Accurascale Class 92 EP/decorated samples which had been highlighted to AS on RMWeb and was acknowledged by them and stated that would be corrected so giving the windows that single flush look.
    So do the windows/glazing look spot on for this model or not?

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому +1

      Hi, I had too much invested in these to look at some of those you mentioned though I have pre-ordered C37s, C55s and C92s. Just looking at some close-up photos and a couple of the models themselves, I would say the A-Classes are hitting the mark overall. There is a visible clearance at the top of some of the windows on a number of the A-Class models so the tolerance here could have been just a little tighter. I only see this with a close up macro lens as it's not really visible with the naked eye. Looking at one of the earlier C92s the side windows did appear to be excessively recessed but the latest photos don't show this and they look very good.

    • @sapphirejunction8993
      @sapphirejunction8993 2 роки тому

      @@EuviRail Yes I'm the same with a GBRf Euro Class 92, both preserved CL 55's (Rails) and a raft of current day 37's on pre-order and yes confident the glazing will be spot on.
      It was just an observation on this A-Class linking it with the Class 92 EP where it had been brought up in the forum and AS did say that it had been recognised and will be corrected.
      It's a shame I can't afford or even justify this loco with sound because I really do like it.
      Cheers Steve

  • @alanrmurphy
    @alanrmurphy 2 роки тому

    I'm new to model railways so don't understand the but about "bogies"(?) "catching", so can't feedback.

    • @EuviRail
      @EuviRail  2 роки тому +1

      Hi Alan, the bogies are the assemblies containing the axles,wheels and electrical pick-ups that can rotate relative to the body to allow the locomotive to negotiate curves. There are normally two per loco and you see designations such as BO-BO (two bogies with 2 axles/4 wheels per bogie) or CO-CO (two bogies with 3 axles/6 wheels per bogie). The A-Class is a CO-CO configuration. For the issue I was having, some of the cabling detail on one of the bogies was hitting against a piece of underbody detail when the loco was negotiating a bend - resulting in a clicking sound. I covered the resolution in my A1 review in case you come across it.

    • @alanrmurphy
      @alanrmurphy 2 роки тому

      @@EuviRail Thank you for that detailed reply! 🙂 I really need to do a lot more reading on this subject. I've joined a few Facebook groups but still have a long way to go.