@@vks_productions a machine shares the soul of it's operators. But then there are machines that inspire certain emotions by themselves with it's mere presence, the Tiger is an imposing machine that oozes respect.
Being a die-hard WW2 nerd I still like "Fury" more than many other WW2 movies. Because it shows the grim, brutal, merciless fighting. It shows the psychology of soldiers who have been in battle for too long. It doesn't shy away from showing what the Allies did. What most soldier did after a while... I guess that is what rubs people the wrong way about "Fury": it tosses away the patriotic BS most other movies tell abot the allied war effort.
@@thomaskositzki9424 ofc, for some people the most important part "tossing away the patriotic bs about the allied war effort" 👌no straight up attracted towards fascism at all, of course
@@jozseftoth9368 My point is this: every side gets throat deep into war crimes in a war that goes on for long time. It is an automatic mechanism of war. I am apalled by the patriotic distortion of the reality of WW2 taking place in many movies, games, etc. Saying that, I am also most thankful for the Allied sacrifice to destroy facism in Europe. BTW I am German and straight-up anti-facist. You should read what people write completely instead of projecting your prejudices into single sentences they utter.
@@thomaskositzki9424 being anti-fascist, and being thankful to the Allies for destroying fascism in Europe, also rejecting the patriotic, heroic, etc way the allies are shown in movies. I just think UA-cam does not need another one comment about "tossing away the patriotic bs about the allied war effort" its already full of love, affection, and forgiveness towards fascism. But i get you, trying to be 100% correct. 👍 The movie otherwise, being brutal and full of fast pace action to fit the taste of 12 yo kids, is full of shiny badass bs.
Idk man, due to the heavy armor of the tiger and the complicated design made it horribly unreliable making it brake the transmission several times wich would've take it a long time to fix it even hours and it would've end up abandoned at the end I never understood why many people praise the german tanks especialy the "3rd generation tanks"
@@herchuboshustle4758 Probably "sexy" but practical not so much the tiger was meant to be for a defensive and a tank destroyer but due to the heavy armor of the tiger this would've eventually cought up broking it's transmission and the complicating design of the tank made it very hard to fix, probably hours and would've end up abanodened at the end.
I met one of the German ‘Boy Soldiers’ in the 80’s , Paul was a Gentleman, kicked out of a plane over US troops at 15 years old , luckily he survived, spent sometime in the US then settled in the UK, he never returned to Germany ..... on Tanks having Soul, I think all machines have soul to those that live with them , from whatever country they come from , these men lived and died in these machines
@@f.dmcintyre4666 I never met him again, as I started working abroad , over the years I’ve reminisced with guys that worked with him far longer than me, all had the same respect for the man 🙌🏻... his Son joined the British army as a Guardsman, I remember him being very proud of him (rightly so )
One of my great grand father was a german soldier in ww2 , he was 18 and was in the 3 panzerkorps , he joined duing the battle of kursk. he was captured by the american in 1945 and was sent to a pow camp but was realeased after few months and moved to france .
Fury could have been a great war movie only for the ridiculously daft battle scenes where they felt the need to pander to the U.S audience and display the German elite infantry and tank units as completely incompetent.
@@17MrLeon ONE scene in the entire movie had Hitler youth mow down Americans. I think he's referring to the last battle scene where the Fury tank crew were killing tones of SS. I think in reality that broken Sherman would have been fully blown up and all crew dead within minutes if it met an SS battalion.
@@omarab837 You do realize these thinks did happen. The thiínk is the reality is far less believable that this movie but I guess that speaks for it self when toned down scene you still think its over the top.
another shitty American propaganda movie... if would have been made like Stalingrad or The beast ...ups..those are actual movies..":))))))) well...another story :))
@@17MrLeon 1 broken tank vs 300 elite SS...mkey:)))) cause they were unable to do the long run,probably took like 5 min max to get behind it..with max..2 rockets..in the dark night.....mkey :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Saying they wanted to do the Tiger justice, and putting it in a scene where it executes the single worst fighting tactic a Tiger could do in this situation is as stupid as saying the WaffenSS was the best and most expirienced unit on the field, and picturing an infantry Btl charging a crippled tank... the rest of the film was ok
@@Kyle-gw6qp He should have stayed in that bush and not driven out. He could have killed all 3 of them and they didnt even know where the tiger was before he drove out. He also took out the shermans with the worst guns of the 3 he should have fired at the fury. The others cant pen him anyways.
@@Jonathan.907 Yes I know. I'm just pointing out that they could only drive the Tiger 200m total, across all takes. That somewhat restricted what could be done. But yes, you are correct, it could have been far more realistic.
@@Kyle-gw6qp Yes I understood what you wanted to say. I just meant that he didnt even need to drive 200m. It wasnt realistic but atleast we got some action.
@@Jonathan.907 In reality the Tiger would most likely fire 2-3 rounds in quick succession and got the fuck out. German tank crews weren't stupid enough to wait around to get their asses blown to bits by P-47s.
The last battle in the movie is so unrealistic. No army, past or present would waste so so ammo or men to take on one semi knocked out tank. One panzerfaust would of been sufficient enough to do the job.
It’s a movie do you really think it would sell if the entire cast were killed instantly by 1 shot from a panzerfaust. Like Ik it’s unrealistic and all but at the end of the day it’s a movie and they made it as realistic as they could in my opinion.
@@nedmtb5155 like stereotypes and social dynamics of the crew plus all the kit worn was well worn and dirty, the actual events and fights weren’t that accurate but it’s a movie so it has to be entertaining , it was the stg44 being used by an American tank commander is far out there, as not only the gun was hard to find but the bullets would have been like finding diamonds.
@@nedmtb5155 I know but that the problem with main stream movies they have to appeal to a lot of people it would be hard to portray a half an hour firefight between the shermans and tiger even just general things such as hardly any of the tanks being camouflaged and such so some of it is for entertainment and I only mention the weapons and things cuz it’s not hard to get right and still be entertained.
8:26 “Special effect blast looks... correct”. Literally the next scene showing the actual footage of panzerfaust that makes the SFX blast look like puny firecracker
You guys don't understand how a panzerfaust works, the big explosion happens inside the tank. The secret of this weapon is, to kill the crew, not the tank.
@@Swisshost The Panzerfaust is exactly the same as the RPG 7 which was developed from it. The shaped charge in the warhead, called a Lovelock charge after its American inventor, melts a metal core which is projected forward to burn instantly through armour. I have never seem it for real, but there should not be a big explosion to see as the force is contained within the target into which it is projected, making it more deadly for the crew. So, just as you say, which all makes the clip in the video look bogus.
My great-uncle actually was forced to fight in the Hitler Youth's part of the "Volkssturm", in the hopeless last ditch defense of Berlin. He says most of the others he knew knew it was over, and they were mostly hoping to be captured by Americans, not Russians
I know this is a year late but my great uncle was also forced to fight. He was assigned to an anti-aircraft gun and says he never fired a shot, his uniform was still fresh when his group was captured. One of the lucky ones I guess.
@@GerikoKain My great uncle was similar, it seems like they had one "fanatic" in the group, so they let him man the gun and he just went back and forth carrying ammo. He couldn't do NOTHING so he at least didn't want to be the one shooting.
If only the last part of the film didn’t exist, Fury would be a masterpiece. To watch dozens Waffen SS soldiers with several panzefausts run like headless chickens in front of the immobilised Sherman so Brad Pitt & Co can kill a what seems a million of them before eventually succumb is a painful experience.
Spot on. I stop watching it at that point. in a real situation, the tank would last seconds. But if you want to be pedantic when the tiger fires at their logs and it takes the blast that's BS too. The Americans and others tried EVERYTHING on their tanks logs,cement,sandbags,train track rails . NOTHING worked. 88 just went straight through
Realistically, the movie would've ended at the start of the Tiger ambush scene. Fury was not only the leading tank in the column and as such would've been the first target by default, it also had an upgraded gun. German tankers were known for even going out of their way to kill these first. This is because they posed the largest threat as they could punch through a Tigers frontal armor at a significant distance. To counter this many US tankers painted their guns to make the tank look like just another regular Sherman from afar.
Really? It was sooo bad! Totally ridiculous battle scenes and little attempt at getting tactics right. I'm an ex-tankie, and it was so disappointing. A wannabe Saving Private Ryan that failed.
@@lighty9023 well of course from your perspective it’s probably shit but for me it was entertaining, yes some of it isn’t realistic but the acting and brotherhood seems on point for me.
A SS brigade would easily have taken out the crew and a tiger would not charge sherman tanks, it would try to remain hidden and keep the shermans at a distance if anything it would track backwards
Film makers didn't resurrect the Last Running Tiger, Bovington Tank museum did. Also, whilst I do love this film, it doesn't capture armoured capabilities or tactics very well but what it does do a good job of is portraying the bond between crewmen. That's just my opinion as someone who has done the job, albeit in modern times.
@@TouchiestMetal you wouldn't even need to be experienced. Anyone with any common sense would have hit Fury first as it clearly has a larger and more potent main armament and at that range would have proved dangerous even to a Tiger frontally. Also, as Fury was at the front it would ensure all other tanks had to stop first before moving. Next when the remaining 3 tanks are charging you down, you wouldn't move forward for 3 main reasons. 1) you're harder to make out in the initial position 2) range is your friend in a Tiger, you are more effective than they are at range and closing the distance is playing into their hands and 3) you can't effectively fire on the move in a Tiger, it has no stabilisation. Then, when they're charging and it's disobeying German doctrine of firing only from a standstill it STILL goes for the weaker opponent! No! Never! Finally it's the Fury part of this scene which irritates me. Shermans did have a form of stabiliser but only effective at a crawl. The rounds from the 76.2mm would be enough to go through the front of the Tiger but they wait....then going round the side at about 5m...it would easily overwatch the side armour and then they get round the back...only to shoot it in the fucking engine...twice. that engine is effectively more armoured than the side armour ever was given its mass. The Tiger has a a number of opportunities to fire during this sequence but doesn't. Fair, it's a film and they used poetic license so they could make it more exciting for the viewer but anyone who's got the vaguest idea of capabilities of the platform and period doctrine just pulls their hair out.
@@MrWiggo91 yes..one reason on Sherman Fireflies *British version with a 17pdr gun in contrast to the normal 75mm, that they camoed the front end of the barrel was that German AT gunners and tank gunners were told to look for the Firefly in a troop and knock that out first
@@agentepolaris4914 Yeah that's true, the technicality was off. But it wasn't showing the Americans as the typical "good guys". Then again, the creators are American.
The words of the director and the coordinator, saying "If you replicate these people stupidly, you're not doing anyone any justice" are not actually taken to heart by the movie. Especially the final battle was very much entirely contradictory for what they said. An SS batallion would NEVER approach a knocked out tank in the middle of nowhere like that. They would send a scout ahead and have them check the tank, if not fire on it from a distance to begin with. They wouldn't have tried to overrun the tank by just going full on lemmings style up ahead. They would scatter and flank him, get their Panzerfaust users in position and deliver 1-2 strikes causing the ammunition or fuel to ignite and detonate. Fury was quite a good movie action and setting wise but I do not think it did the history as much justice as they Director claims it did. There was a lot of artistic license taken especially in the tiger scene. The germans would NEVER shoot the last tank in the convoy, always the first one so the rest had to stop. German tank crews were specifically trained to perform the so called "Feuerhalt"(hold and fire) tactic. The wouldn't charge a sherman with a tiger. NEVER EVER! They would ange their hull to cause riccochets and then pick off the advancing tanks one by one.
Very true. Especially when it comes to German tactics. First tank first. Michael Wittmann's legend began with his use of one StuG 3 against 16 T34s and he did just what you described. The things that happened in this movie made it unwatchable, despite the beautiful settings and high end finish. It's probably a fantastic movie for those who know nothing about history.
@@PP-ed9cf Well, fury is actually quite accurate in historic terms, but it takes a lot of artistic license when it comes to the performance and strength of the Sherman Jumbo and its crew. It does a great job depicting the horrors of war and the impact it had on people. It even does a great job showing how tired the german population was of the war. Just tank combat wise it is highly biased towards the american victory story.
@@Bitt3rh0lz Absolutely and to your last point - that's really, as far as I feel, is the essence of the movie. The truth was very much the opposite. Had the story been about a German crew in a disabled Tiger 1, that scenario would have been far more believable. Like I said I do find the feel of it all very engaging, dark and very well done. Unfortunately, all of that is let down by the rest of the movie which is an utter fantasy, as you already pointed out :)
Yeah, I liked it when I saw it in the theater despite obvious flaws. However, this movie gets worse on subsequent viewings. Now I can't watch it. Every scene has flaws, some like the end battle are just awful.
I’m a battlefield guide here in Normandie and I know my stuff really well I hate watching war movies for the inaccuracies in the messed up plot sometimes but I do like to watch war movies with my guide friends and we will dissect a two hour movie and press pause every time we see a mistake and then discuss it and verify proof and accuracy.
@@hairydave82 1million % Save the Pvt Ryan and Band of Brothers probably the Pacific series as well. Whenever there is big budget involved and some serious people like Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg who don't wanna f...up their reputation with classy BS. Ps. The last movie Greyhound is probably the poorest however the actual footage withn the confined space of the Destroyer Main Deck are worth the whole movie. Correct dialogues, correct spacing.
I was watching clips from Fury on YT and thought "This is so made up" then this came up, this docco is mind blowing, the detail to attention is amazing, I really didn't have any idea about the efforts to make such a film and now realise how authentic this movie is...............Thanks for putting this up...............Blessings...........
1:04:15 - This blokes perspective of the Germans in WW2 has to be the most balanced and fair view I have heard "...took 2 years.. fighting them from every angle to defeat them.."
That’s one way of looking at it, but it took 4+6 years and the support of every liberation movement in the world to destroy the British Empire and force the allies into an political and economic union with Germany. And now after Brexit, we have to do it all over again! 😔
I loved the movie for the characters and realistic portrayal of men at war but the production crew have done an equally awesome job here, quite amazing considering so many movies now are just people in morph suits against a green screen
"Living up to it's reputation as an unstoppable monster" - except they portrayed the Mk VI in a totally unrealistic scenario. I can't help feeling that if the Germans were as inept as this movie continuously portrayed them, the war would have been over far sooner. Fury is an enjoyable action flick, and it displayed the human side of war very well, but there are parts of it that really let it down.
The Fury story is actually based off of a 60 hr tank battle of an English Mark IV tank that was trapped during WWI, Ypres, 1917. The Tank's name was Fray Bentos
Yes US crews had guts, etc but I’m not sure if they mentioned how many more tanks the Allies had on the ground in Western Europe. Destroyed German tanks were hard to replace, with factories being constantly bombed etc, (not to mention the massive scale of the Eastern Front and the resources they had to expend there) but the Allies had a stream of new tanks coming to replace their losses
I think this doco has been glorified for the American viewer. I'm pretty certain most people who fight for their country or whatever reason fight with "guts".
@@frankgaletzka8477 one of the reasons? Germany lost because they fought 2 fronts.. east and west´.. And east=russia had compared to germany infinat numbers.. german would lose no matte what thay did
I like how they bring up the Tigers speed as a negative, when it's like 3Km/h slower on the road than a Sherman and maybe ~6Km/h slower off road. Sure it was slower, but not by a whole lot.
Fantastic movie, loved it Was an absolute treat to see the machine's at Bovington tank museum, the Heft of the Tiger by comparison gave me the creeps, I dread to think what those boy's had to cope with throughout the War Very sobering and humbling.
The film, 'Fury' was good in the sense of characters; the script was well written and it was photographed with great professionalism. What really stank was the last part of the story. The Tiger tank or tanks could simply stand-off, outside of the Sherman's range, and lob shells at it until it was destroyed. It was not like it was going anywhere. Attacking a lone, stationary Sherman with wave after wave of Waffen SS soldiers was just stupidity. Not even foreign Wehrmacht volunteers with little experience would have made such a ridiculous tactical mistake. Alternatively, if the Nazis were in a 'hurry', then sending in a small squad with Panzerfausts would have doomed 'Fury' in a short time indeed. In the shots where we see the Waffen SS battalion marching down the road, several of their number are carrying Panzerfausts, more than enough to kill the crew of a damaged, stationary Sherman. Why, in a film where they did so much research into SS uniforms and then used a priceless, Tiger tank, did they mess up the last part of the film by not bothering to show how easy it would have been to kill the Fury's crew and not lose a single man. This reminded me of an old B-grade Western where the Indians ride in an endless circle around settlers' wagons getting themselves killed, big time. These days American movie makers have good ideas for films but, almost invariably, they have no idea how to end a story properly and concentrate on what would have really happened. The ticket price for this film should have been halved, because that's all you got; one half of a good movie. Of course, in this documentary, they didn't go into why they went with crazy military tactics that had nothing to do with reality. Several senior people in the crew bang on and on about accuracy and research; that's great, that's a good thing, but all that is wasted if the climax of the film is just about as wrong as you can make it. BH
I justify it by thinking the best of the wehrmacht was killed off in the east, and whats left have little experience or training. I remember hearing about an M26 seeing a Pz.4 charging at them after bouncing an HE shot. While it sounds stupid for the tiger, it was basically a stroke of luck that the sherman encountered a braindead tiger crew. Also the tiger was getting its position smoked off, which people seem to have completely forgotten. Imagine if the tiger was smoked off, and then flanked to the side by 2 shermans. They were forced to move forward aswell.
@@honkhonk8009 Yeah well it is a culmination of the complete historical inaccuracies in this film that make people mad. The Tiger being completely brain dead and the SS battalion just sending men at a Sherman instead of having them grab panzerfausts and go around in the dark.
That wasn't the only bad scene, there were several. It started badly at the beginning when the two tanks are circling each other in the field like some incompetent circus.
@@honkhonk8009 except that little experience or training is not correct. The various elite units were fire brigaded back and fore...21st Panzer in Normandy, Leibstandarte and others plus the indie Tiger units
It's understandable to open fire of a heavy MG on a tank depending of it's type and where you're shooting. Shooting repeatedly and constantly the tracks and/or the gun of a tank is an actual way to make a total tank knock off way easier.
acually it was a common tactic , it desrupts the gunners vision if oyu shoot at his gun scope or the commanders copula it also distracts the tank from flanking units that will take it out from behind
You would fire at the drivers periscope to blind him and other periscopes to blind the crew . Plus if tank was being followed by infantry the bullet's would get some of them especially their legs as the gap between the floor and the ground was at least 1foot as you can see in some of the shots.
Not even the most rookie commander could make such mistakes the basic rules reached in the German tank commander school is: in a tank column shoot the first tank because it’s usually the most superior one if this is not the case shoot the one that could be the most problematic (armor, speed, or cannon) after that destroy the one in the end of the column, the tactic is to leave the tanks in the middle of the column with two options turn towards your tank (in this case a Tiger 1 (pz-VII) or to try to escape but in both options is in your range leaving them to be hunted down by the Tiger, and also the Tiger had a superior position where it could hunt all of the tanks without having to move an inch the huge mistake of going forward left the back part (the most vulnerable part of the chasis) completely vulnerable to being shot, also the officers that lead that SS battalion could had ended it all with one single panzerfaust, no need to sacrifice almost all your entire battalion only ONE panzerfaust
@@AFV85 Yeah, I see what you mean. I thought the tracers of the tank guns were pretty realistic. Not the MGs tracers, though. It takes about 200 meters for a tracer bullet to light up and you can hardly see them during daylight, so...Yeah, it kind of made it look like lasers, I agree.
@@mikevoisine2886 In this he did say he uses tracers and goes on about the different colours for countries using the Green for German but he must have used more than normal phosphorus or whatever is used because it's pretty crazy to well normal tracers! it looks like the ww2 Soviet Katyusha rocket launcher haha!
"German tanks are cold & soulless" is 'THE' dumbest, ignorant & spectacularly wrong sentence I have heard this year! BTW: If you are going to spend a fortune on detail & accuracy don't bundle it into a five cent plot. Large numbers of Germans were gunned down at the end of the movie, hopefully a few of them were the script writers playing extras. What a shambles!
So impressed with the level of accuracy of the uniforms and vehicles in this movie. Watching it makes to FEEL like you ate in 1945. INCREDIBLE detail training and effort by everyone. But the Tiger fight and the closing scene was unrealistic sadly - the WSS would have wiped Fury out in seconds.
Yes sadly indeed. For the sake of realism they could have showed more ''german accuracy' . The 88 was the pinnacle of accuracy and penetration but yet they depict it as an airsoft gun shooting potatoes that keep ricocheting.
I liked the movie but there where so many tactical inaccuracies that I didn't think it was a "great" movie. I agree the Tiger fight and the "last stand" scenes where absolutely bollocks.
@@jsullivan2112 plenty of videos about it. As a start, the Tiger wouldve shot Fury first as it was the point vehicle and had the most powerful cannon. Then it would absolutely not move toward them, except maybe the few meters to get out of the smoke. Also, its rounds would've *never* bounced off a Sherman, especially on the side. And finally, they wouldn't have missed a single shot, especially with the Shermans coming at them in a straight line. Oh and also, if the scene was realistic but Fury still wasn't destroyed first for some reason, its cannon was actually powerful enough to kill a Tiger. So realistically the Americans would all be dead in a minute, and if Fury somehow wasn't shot first then they would have won in seconds.
The "Fury" is one of the best war movies ever made. I've seen it several times. War machines, tanks, weapons, drama, scenes, incredible set details, war story, death and surprising home scenes. Definitely, you must watch that movie!
For all the films inaccuracies and hyper drama, it's still very interesting and unique for giving us a look at Germany in the LAST month of the war, and the way German society collapsed over itself
27:39 -- according to the "How Accurate is this movie?" episode on "Fury," this is where everything is wrong: 4 tanks all alone, no infantry support, the last tank (not the first) was taken out first, the German tank moved out of its covered superior position into the open when there was no reason to do so, etc.
Something not many people realise is that the Tiger I moving out of cover was a legitimate response. Fury did not fire smoke shells into the Tiger. They fired Willie Pete, which is White Phosphorous. That thing is a gas that literally burns the air around it and burns you alive if you don't seal the hatches fast enough. To be fair, that Tiger should have stopped after leaving the White Phosphorous but these crews are probably inexperienced.
To see the faults in this film i would say you would have to have served in the forces. Therefore understanding tactics. To people who have not served its a very good film showing the horrors of war.
What about the tiger 2 still looks modern to this day germans invented all modern weapons stg44 modern assault rifle night wision jet planes first jet powerd flying wing v2 misile first fuel injected engines in planes smart bomb fritz x and so on and on.... And they still do german engenering is the best in the world vag bmw and mercedes the bentley and rolls was crap untill it became german and lambo and bughatti and so on and on ....
Tiger 2 I like it's armour is better but it looks like the panther I have to look at it for a minute but they was both good tanks I just like the look of the tiger 1 I love German engineering it's the best to tell you the truth I wish the Nazi's one the war they did some stuff that was not good I wore go in to that but every thing you said was good so thank for writing to me I think we have the same view on German engineering respect from England
Bigger gun and bigger calliber, what else you expected? In fact, the soviets already used a 152mm ML-20 howitzer which was capable of blowing up Tiger 1s with only the explosion shock of a HE shell, and even tho, none remembers this artillery (unless they put tracks on it and call as SU/ISU-152)
I am a korean. Did you know that the main character of this movie is modeled after an American soldier in the Korean War? Many Koreans remember him. He held key points alone and held them at key times in the war. Much more heroic than the movie.
몇몇 자막이 아쉬운 부분이 있었지만 덕분에 잘 보았습니다. "탱크 부대는 전쟁 전에는 기갑부대였어요"라는 자막은, "기갑부대는 전쟁 전에는 기마부대였어요"라고 번역하시는게 맞습니다. 기마병이 전쟁에서 할 일이 없어지게 되니까 "뭐에 타고 싸우는건 똑같으니까 기병대가 탱크를 운전하게 하자"면서 변경되었거든요.
100% they tested that thing rigorously. Stuntmen have to be extremely confident in their gear and their set. They didn't just whip it all together, it took weeks or even months of planning, prepping, testing, and practicing the final shot. By the time the stuntman actually got run over he'd already done it 100 times.
Don’t try to analyse this film, there is nothing that makes any sense. Nothing. I was glad that they got shot and I was able to leave the theatre. I can tell you it was dead silence afterwards, nothing to say or talk about.
22:30 lovely, the way he casually makes a jocular admission of committing war crimes!! Enemy surrender? Not today, Fritz. I hope he's talking only about combat encounters, and not rules around not abusing non-combatants, women and children, not poisoning water sources, torture, and other such things
Did you miss the parts where he specifies that it was the SS they didn't trust to surrebder, after they experienced multiple false surrenders by them? Which is also very much a war crime. Like yea it's rather cold, but once you see the enemy using the promise of surrender as a way to let your guard down, you're going to be pretty sceptical the next time you see a white flag.
The one thing that everyone forgets is the Germans were fighting for their own homes, yes the war was pretty much lost, but honestly how hard would you fight if someone was invading your home?
if hitler hadnt been a total moron, and if he had a few years more, nobody could stopped the Germans, the Technology of that time was so much ahead, they only lacked, in everything, to propell all this inventions, and to pull some salt in the Mouth, today we use a old Nazi Genozide Wounderwapon in every War.. Depleted Uranium Ammunition, a weapon wich not only kills the enemy the own troops to, (Gulf War Syndrom) a weapon that not only kills fast, it poisons the Ground, make generations of People Sick and kill them with Chancer, DU Ammunition is the modern Salted Lands Methode, if u fight a Enemy make shure he never gets up again and the best Eugenic behavior, is to destroy the Genepoole and poison the food and water even the air... and call that brining of Freedom and Democraty... Yes we are so much better today so much better...
That’s right and these war criminals are talking about not taking prisoners like it’s ok to kill a surrendered person under the Geneva convention not to mention the rape and all the other war crimes there were no so called good sides in ww2 that’s for sure
@@tawipausian8003 France never truly surrended you uneducated moron. The resistance and more importantly the colonies were still in the game until the end of the war. Don't believe me ? Google Free French Forces or Battle of Bir Hakeim. You're welcome.
Lugul banda Hitler was as you say a complete moron without him WW2 wouldn't have happened , the invasion of Russia was the supreme act of lunacy that doomed the German people.
the dude just said german tanks looked souless, whereas the sherman had a "spirit", because it was AmErIcAn. Americans.
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@@panzerkampfwagenviiimaus6374 awww mickey Maus is sad
I would honestly say all tanks look soulless, because they are. A great big machine coming to kill you has no essence of humanity to it.
not only souless , it also unreliable especially with the breakdown it bound to happen
@@vks_productions a machine shares the soul of it's operators. But then there are machines that inspire certain emotions by themselves with it's mere presence, the Tiger is an imposing machine that oozes respect.
"Realism" proceeds to make a Tiger tank head towards 4 shermans instead of holding his position and taking them down 1 by 1
It's for showcase and make it more dramatic. Short battles and sitting still wouldn't be as entertaining for audiences.
Being a die-hard WW2 nerd I still like "Fury" more than many other WW2 movies. Because it shows the grim, brutal, merciless fighting. It shows the psychology of soldiers who have been in battle for too long. It doesn't shy away from showing what the Allies did. What most soldier did after a while...
I guess that is what rubs people the wrong way about "Fury": it tosses away the patriotic BS most other movies tell abot the allied war effort.
@@thomaskositzki9424 ofc, for some people the most important part "tossing away the patriotic bs about the allied war effort" 👌no straight up attracted towards fascism at all, of course
@@jozseftoth9368 My point is this: every side gets throat deep into war crimes in a war that goes on for long time. It is an automatic mechanism of war. I am apalled by the patriotic distortion of the reality of WW2 taking place in many movies, games, etc. Saying that, I am also most thankful for the Allied sacrifice to destroy facism in Europe.
BTW I am German and straight-up anti-facist.
You should read what people write completely instead of projecting your prejudices into single sentences they utter.
@@thomaskositzki9424 being anti-fascist, and being thankful to the Allies for destroying fascism in Europe, also rejecting the patriotic, heroic, etc way the allies are shown in movies. I just think UA-cam does not need another one comment about "tossing away the patriotic bs about the allied war effort" its already full of love, affection, and forgiveness towards fascism. But i get you, trying to be 100% correct. 👍
The movie otherwise, being brutal and full of fast pace action to fit the taste of 12 yo kids, is full of shiny badass bs.
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@@razta4038 hahaha that was f'ing funny when i understood what u meant loooooooooool im dying as a write this YOU SAVAGE
German Tanks look soulless? I'd say the soul of a Tiger is full on Demonic.. What a machine
Right? Had to hand it to the Germans they made practical and sexy tanks
Yeah that comment had no substance
@@herchuboshustle4758 Practical? maybe not lol the Tiger's logistics were horrible
Idk man, due to the heavy armor of the tiger and the complicated design made it horribly unreliable making it brake the transmission several times wich would've take it a long time to fix it even hours and it would've end up abandoned at the end I never understood why many people praise the german tanks especialy the "3rd generation tanks"
@@herchuboshustle4758 Probably "sexy" but practical not so much the tiger was meant to be for a defensive and a tank destroyer but due to the heavy armor of the tiger this would've eventually cought up broking it's transmission and the complicating design of the tank made it very hard to fix, probably hours and would've end up abanodened at the end.
I met one of the German ‘Boy Soldiers’ in the 80’s , Paul was a Gentleman, kicked out of a plane over US troops at 15 years old , luckily he survived, spent sometime in the US then settled in the UK, he never returned to Germany ..... on Tanks having Soul, I think all machines have soul to those that live with them , from whatever country they come from , these men lived and died in these machines
Wait. A 15 year old was thrown out of a plane and survived. What a legend
I take it you lost contact w Paul ?? Thanks....
@@ImWallace799 he was , he was a giant of a man in physique and heart 🙌🏻
@@f.dmcintyre4666 I never met him again, as I started working abroad , over the years I’ve reminisced with guys that worked with him far longer than me, all had the same respect for the man 🙌🏻... his Son joined the British army as a Guardsman, I remember him being very proud of him (rightly so )
One of my great grand father was a german soldier in ww2 , he was 18 and was in the 3 panzerkorps , he joined duing the battle of kursk. he was captured by the american in 1945 and was sent to a pow camp but was realeased after few months and moved to france .
Steven Price created the great music for Fury and that’s not talked about anywhere.
Norman ( end song ) is a banger
Yeah for sure. That's one of the best soundtracks I can remember in a war movie.
I think that’s because the music soundtrack in fury was a bit too quiet.
Really wished it was louder tho.
Because it's not the point of the movies .... There's no music playing in the real scene back then ....
Fury could have been a great war movie only for the ridiculously daft battle scenes where they felt the need to pander to the U.S audience and display the German elite infantry and tank units as completely incompetent.
Where did you see them as incompent. You literary see germans having upper hand here moving down yanks like nothing.
@@17MrLeon ONE scene in the entire movie had Hitler youth mow down Americans. I think he's referring to the last battle scene where the Fury tank crew were killing tones of SS. I think in reality that broken Sherman would have been fully blown up and all crew dead within minutes if it met an SS battalion.
@@omarab837 You do realize these thinks did happen. The thiínk is the reality is far less believable that this movie but I guess that speaks for it self when toned down scene you still think its over the top.
another shitty American propaganda movie... if would have been made like Stalingrad or The beast ...ups..those are actual movies..":))))))) well...another story :))
@@17MrLeon 1 broken tank vs 300 elite SS...mkey:)))) cause they were unable to do the long run,probably took like 5 min max to get behind it..with max..2 rockets..in the dark night.....mkey :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Saying they wanted to do the Tiger justice, and putting it in a scene where it executes the single worst fighting tactic a Tiger could do in this situation is as stupid as saying the WaffenSS was the best and most expirienced unit on the field, and picturing an infantry Btl charging a crippled tank... the rest of the film was ok
They were only allowed to drive the Tiger like 200m. It sort of limited what they could do.
@@Kyle-gw6qp He should have stayed in that bush and not driven out. He could have killed all 3 of them and they didnt even know where the tiger was before he drove out. He also took out the shermans with the worst guns of the 3 he should have fired at the fury. The others cant pen him anyways.
@@Jonathan.907 Yes I know. I'm just pointing out that they could only drive the Tiger 200m total, across all takes. That somewhat restricted what could be done. But yes, you are correct, it could have been far more realistic.
@@Kyle-gw6qp Yes I understood what you wanted to say. I just meant that he didnt even need to drive 200m. It wasnt realistic but atleast we got some action.
@@Jonathan.907 In reality the Tiger would most likely fire 2-3 rounds in quick succession and got the fuck out. German tank crews weren't stupid enough to wait around to get their asses blown to bits by P-47s.
The last battle in the movie is so unrealistic. No army, past or present would waste so so ammo or men to take on one semi knocked out tank. One panzerfaust would of been sufficient enough to do the job.
It’s a movie do you really think it would sell if the entire cast were killed instantly by 1 shot from a panzerfaust. Like Ik it’s unrealistic and all but at the end of the day it’s a movie and they made it as realistic as they could in my opinion.
Look up the tank F41 'Fray Bentos' from WW1.
Yes but, MURICA!! the nation that single handedly won world war II right lads?
@@socialus5689 they didn't win the war of 1812 or Vietnam eh?😂😂
@@andrewfox6631 No one won in Vietnam.
In 2011 I stood in the engine bay of Tiger 131....so you could say, there's a part of me in Fury.
This is one movie I never get tired of watching
I loved the movie just the stg44 put me off as the drama and history was pretty accurate just far fetched weapon for a tank commander to use.
@@gfingers9117 accurate history?
@@nedmtb5155 like stereotypes and social dynamics of the crew plus all the kit worn was well worn and dirty, the actual events and fights weren’t that accurate but it’s a movie so it has to be entertaining , it was the stg44 being used by an American tank commander is far out there, as not only the gun was hard to find but the bullets would have been like finding diamonds.
@@gfingers9117 i dont mean small things like that, i mean like the tiger scene or the pak scene.
@@nedmtb5155 I know but that the problem with main stream movies they have to appeal to a lot of people it would be hard to portray a half an hour firefight between the shermans and tiger even just general things such as hardly any of the tanks being camouflaged and such so some of it is for entertainment and I only mention the weapons and things cuz it’s not hard to get right and still be entertained.
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8:26 “Special effect blast looks... correct”. Literally the next scene showing the actual footage of panzerfaust that makes the SFX blast look like puny firecracker
thats because the real demo was on a open piece of metal showing the "inside"
Doesnt it occur to you that that was a German propagadna movie set up with explosives.
You guys don't understand how a panzerfaust works, the big explosion happens inside the tank. The secret of this weapon is, to kill the crew, not the tank.
@@Swisshost The Panzerfaust is exactly the same as the RPG 7 which was developed from it. The shaped charge in the warhead, called a Lovelock charge after its American inventor, melts a metal core which is projected forward to burn instantly through armour. I have never seem it for real, but there should not be a big explosion to see as the force is contained within the target into which it is projected, making it more deadly for the crew. So, just as you say, which all makes the clip in the video look bogus.
Tiger was so beautiful.
but terribly unreliable
My great-uncle actually was forced to fight in the Hitler Youth's part of the "Volkssturm", in the hopeless last ditch defense of Berlin.
He says most of the others he knew knew it was over, and they were mostly hoping to be captured by Americans, not Russians
I know this is a year late but my great uncle was also forced to fight. He was assigned to an anti-aircraft gun and says he never fired a shot, his uniform was still fresh when his group was captured. One of the lucky ones I guess.
@@GerikoKain My great uncle was similar, it seems like they had one "fanatic" in the group, so they let him man the gun and he just went back and forth carrying ammo. He couldn't do NOTHING so he at least didn't want to be the one shooting.
I saw a picture of us m24 and sherwani with some IS 2 tanks you guys were screwd
There were probably some reasons... good ones and worst ones...
If only the last part of the film didn’t exist, Fury would be a masterpiece.
To watch dozens Waffen SS soldiers with several panzefausts run like headless chickens in front of the immobilised Sherman so Brad Pitt & Co can kill a what seems a million of them before eventually succumb is a painful experience.
Yes that last scene was absolutely ridiculous and totally unrealistic Hollywood nonsense
Spot on. I stop watching it at that point. in a real situation, the tank would last seconds. But if you want to be pedantic when the tiger fires at their logs and it takes the blast that's BS too. The Americans and others tried EVERYTHING on their tanks logs,cement,sandbags,train track rails . NOTHING worked. 88 just went straight through
Realistically, the movie would've ended at the start of the Tiger ambush scene.
Fury was not only the leading tank in the column and as such would've been the first target by default, it also had an upgraded gun. German tankers were known for even going out of their way to kill these first. This is because they posed the largest threat as they could punch through a Tigers frontal armor at a significant distance. To counter this many US tankers painted their guns to make the tank look like just another regular Sherman from afar.
how many films have you directed? LOK
Reality was even less believable.
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I finally got around to watching it after hearing about it for years. I loved it. One of my favorite ww2 movies!
Yes I agree it’s brilliant 👍👍
Same, just watched it for the first time yesterday and loved it.
yeah me to well worth watching 😁👍
Really? It was sooo bad! Totally ridiculous battle scenes and little attempt at getting tactics right. I'm an ex-tankie, and it was so disappointing. A wannabe Saving Private Ryan that failed.
@@lighty9023 well of course from your perspective it’s probably shit but for me it was entertaining, yes some of it isn’t realistic but the acting and brotherhood seems on point for me.
A SS brigade would easily have taken out the crew and a tiger would not charge sherman tanks, it would try to remain hidden and keep the shermans at a distance if anything it would track backwards
indeed, but for the movie purpose, it kinda had to be done.
Yes your right
tell that to Michael Wittmann
Depends on the crew
Ok bro respect
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Movie didnt give a fuck about accuracy or realism when it came to the battles. Still appreciate all that went into it though
Nice doc. Very much enjoyed.
Film makers didn't resurrect the Last Running Tiger, Bovington Tank museum did.
Also, whilst I do love this film, it doesn't capture armoured capabilities or tactics very well but what it does do a good job of is portraying the bond between crewmen. That's just my opinion as someone who has done the job, albeit in modern times.
I know like when the tiger attacks fury it had the perfect hiding spot and a experienced commander would stay hidden until it’s necessary
Yeah the writing and acting is great but it has a lot of historical inaccuracies
@@TouchiestMetal you wouldn't even need to be experienced. Anyone with any common sense would have hit Fury first as it clearly has a larger and more potent main armament and at that range would have proved dangerous even to a Tiger frontally. Also, as Fury was at the front it would ensure all other tanks had to stop first before moving. Next when the remaining 3 tanks are charging you down, you wouldn't move forward for 3 main reasons. 1) you're harder to make out in the initial position 2) range is your friend in a Tiger, you are more effective than they are at range and closing the distance is playing into their hands and 3) you can't effectively fire on the move in a Tiger, it has no stabilisation. Then, when they're charging and it's disobeying German doctrine of firing only from a standstill it STILL goes for the weaker opponent! No! Never!
Finally it's the Fury part of this scene which irritates me. Shermans did have a form of stabiliser but only effective at a crawl. The rounds from the 76.2mm would be enough to go through the front of the Tiger but they wait....then going round the side at about 5m...it would easily overwatch the side armour and then they get round the back...only to shoot it in the fucking engine...twice. that engine is effectively more armoured than the side armour ever was given its mass. The Tiger has a a number of opportunities to fire during this sequence but doesn't.
Fair, it's a film and they used poetic license so they could make it more exciting for the viewer but anyone who's got the vaguest idea of capabilities of the platform and period doctrine just pulls their hair out.
@@MrWiggo91 yes..one reason on Sherman Fireflies *British version with a 17pdr gun in contrast to the normal 75mm, that they camoed the front end of the barrel was that German AT gunners and tank gunners were told to look for the Firefly in a troop and knock that out first
I once went to play paintball, I found a new found respect for anyone in the army. Never felt so venerable in my life.
A very American movie.
Why is it an american film?
American propaganda film
So?
It's a shame because the director tried to instil realism and authenticity, an homage to the men involved; but instead did the opposite :/
Yeah, after all their work, the film's (basically) just propaganda shit. What a shame.
@@lenlooksback7981 Propagating what? It showed atrocities from both sides and compassion from both sides.
@@name_dropper8112 i agree with you. It has its errors but very good. The end scene is a bit over the top but still enjoyable.
@@name_dropper8112 Agree, but it still propagates the image that the US were invincible gods of war and the germans were pretty much cartoon villains
@@agentepolaris4914 Yeah that's true, the technicality was off. But it wasn't showing the Americans as the typical "good guys". Then again, the creators are American.
The words of the director and the coordinator, saying "If you replicate these people stupidly, you're not doing anyone any justice" are not actually taken to heart by the movie. Especially the final battle was very much entirely contradictory for what they said.
An SS batallion would NEVER approach a knocked out tank in the middle of nowhere like that. They would send a scout ahead and have them check the tank, if not fire on it from a distance to begin with. They wouldn't have tried to overrun the tank by just going full on lemmings style up ahead. They would scatter and flank him, get their Panzerfaust users in position and deliver 1-2 strikes causing the ammunition or fuel to ignite and detonate.
Fury was quite a good movie action and setting wise but I do not think it did the history as much justice as they Director claims it did. There was a lot of artistic license taken especially in the tiger scene. The germans would NEVER shoot the last tank in the convoy, always the first one so the rest had to stop. German tank crews were specifically trained to perform the so called "Feuerhalt"(hold and fire) tactic. The wouldn't charge a sherman with a tiger. NEVER EVER! They would ange their hull to cause riccochets and then pick off the advancing tanks one by one.
Very true. Especially when it comes to German tactics. First tank first. Michael Wittmann's legend began with his use of one StuG 3 against 16 T34s and he did just what you described. The things that happened in this movie made it unwatchable, despite the beautiful settings and high end finish. It's probably a fantastic movie for those who know nothing about history.
@@PP-ed9cf Well, fury is actually quite accurate in historic terms, but it takes a lot of artistic license when it comes to the performance and strength of the Sherman Jumbo and its crew.
It does a great job depicting the horrors of war and the impact it had on people. It even does a great job showing how tired the german population was of the war.
Just tank combat wise it is highly biased towards the american victory story.
@@Bitt3rh0lz Absolutely and to your last point - that's really, as far as I feel, is the essence of the movie. The truth was very much the opposite. Had the story been about a German crew in a disabled Tiger 1, that scenario would have been far more believable.
Like I said I do find the feel of it all very engaging, dark and very well done. Unfortunately, all of that is let down by the rest of the movie which is an utter fantasy, as you already pointed out :)
this is a great movie for when you don't think too much... but when you start thinking about it. well just don't :D
Yeah, I liked it when I saw it in the theater despite obvious flaws. However, this movie gets worse on subsequent viewings. Now I can't watch it. Every scene has flaws, some like the end battle are just awful.
Fascinating programme, it’s amazing to see the technical side of a film like this. 👏🏻
I’m a battlefield guide here in Normandie and I know my stuff really well I hate watching war movies for the inaccuracies in the messed up plot sometimes but I do like to watch war movies with my guide friends and we will dissect a two hour movie and press pause every time we see a mistake and then discuss it and verify proof and accuracy.
That's cool. What would you say is the most accurate WW2 film you've seen?
@@hairydave82 1million % Save the Pvt Ryan and Band of Brothers probably the Pacific series as well. Whenever there is big budget involved and some serious people like Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg who don't wanna f...up their reputation with classy BS. Ps. The last movie Greyhound is probably the poorest however the actual footage withn the confined space of the Destroyer Main Deck are worth the whole movie. Correct dialogues, correct spacing.
Hey Trevor....i am a colleague i am actually doing (as a volunteer, no business involved) the "Husky" tour guide in Sicily.
Cheers!
@@hairydave82 come and see
The commentary about the scene with the two german women in the apartment was really intriguing, I would have liked to hear more about that
I was watching clips from Fury on YT and thought "This is so made up" then this came up, this docco is mind blowing, the detail to attention is amazing, I really didn't have any idea about the efforts to make such a film and now realise how authentic this movie is...............Thanks for putting this up...............Blessings...........
authentic in look but as even ppl that like it say, the last scene was risible
"Capturing the Reality" yeaaaaaa sure.......
"if you ever caught a German, you wouldn't let him live"
I have SO many problems with that sentiment. It's hard to know where to begin.
It's true though.
@@Freakishd Whats true?
@@feolender2938 The statement you noted I'm guessing
@@Irivik fuck me, I can feel this thread making me more stupid
@@feolender2938 Whats your problem with it
WOW! This is impressive, the fine details of this film "Incredible"
1:04:15 - This blokes perspective of the Germans in WW2 has to be the most balanced and fair view I have heard "...took 2 years.. fighting them from every angle to defeat them.."
That’s one way of looking at it, but it took 4+6 years and the support of every liberation movement in the world to destroy the British Empire and force the allies into an political and economic union with Germany. And now after Brexit, we have to do it all over again! 😔
what an effort to create an arcade style movie. the most accurate depiction is how they dealt with POW
Id say a sherman looks soulles
soulles
Soulless lol
Amazing movie, amazing behind the scenes video. Thx.
I loved the movie for the characters and realistic portrayal of men at war but the production crew have done an equally awesome job here, quite amazing considering so many movies now are just people in morph suits against a green screen
"Living up to it's reputation as an unstoppable monster" - except they portrayed the Mk VI in a totally unrealistic scenario. I can't help feeling that if the Germans were as inept as this movie continuously portrayed them, the war would have been over far sooner. Fury is an enjoyable action flick, and it displayed the human side of war very well, but there are parts of it that really let it down.
A very underrated movie. I loved watching it and afterwards made me look up the last panzer battle of WWII
The Fury story is actually based off of a 60 hr tank battle of an English Mark IV tank that was trapped during WWI, Ypres, 1917. The Tank's name was Fray Bentos
Love this movie, watched it about 5 times, never gets old.
Yes US crews had guts, etc but I’m not sure if they mentioned how many more tanks the Allies had on the ground in Western Europe. Destroyed German tanks were hard to replace, with factories being constantly bombed etc, (not to mention the massive scale of the Eastern Front and the resources they had to expend there) but the Allies had a stream of new tanks coming to replace their losses
You are absolute right
When the Germans löst a tank the Crew fight as infantrie
When the americans Lost a tank the Crew jumped in a new one
I think this doco has been glorified for the American viewer. I'm pretty certain most people who fight for their country or whatever reason fight with "guts".
Us had more then 50.000 shermans at the end. Germany could never beat those Numbers. Think they where down to 3000 tanks.
@@waskus yes you are right and that is one of the reasons why Germany Lost the war
@@frankgaletzka8477 one of the reasons? Germany lost because they fought 2 fronts.. east and west´.. And east=russia had compared to germany infinat numbers.. german would lose no matte what thay did
I like how they bring up the Tigers speed as a negative, when it's like 3Km/h slower on the road than a Sherman and maybe ~6Km/h slower off road. Sure it was slower, but not by a whole lot.
That is a lot when you try to get in position
@@17MrLeon No, not really. That speed difference only changes how fast you can reach the frontlines.
@@17MrLeon not if you take the armor and gun in acount
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This was excellent! Thank you very much for the upload!
This is the best behind the scenes documentary i have ever watched
Fantastic movie, loved it
Was an absolute treat to see the machine's at Bovington tank museum, the Heft of the Tiger by comparison gave me the creeps, I dread to think what those boy's had to cope with throughout the War
Very sobering and humbling.
Agreed. 👍
few americans ever came up against a tiger.....
"We were savages when we were fighting and we became human beings when it quietened down."
Amazing
the tracer is always my favorite moment in fury
The film, 'Fury' was good in the sense of characters; the script was well written and it was photographed with great professionalism. What really stank was the last part of the story. The Tiger tank or tanks could simply stand-off, outside of the Sherman's range, and lob shells at it until it was destroyed. It was not like it was going anywhere. Attacking a lone, stationary Sherman with wave after wave of Waffen SS soldiers was just stupidity.
Not even foreign Wehrmacht volunteers with little experience would have made such a ridiculous tactical mistake.
Alternatively, if the Nazis were in a 'hurry', then sending in a small squad with Panzerfausts would have doomed 'Fury' in a short time indeed. In the shots where we see the Waffen SS battalion marching down the road, several of their number are carrying Panzerfausts, more than enough to kill the crew of a damaged, stationary Sherman.
Why, in a film where they did so much research into SS uniforms and then used a priceless, Tiger tank, did they mess up the last part of the film by not bothering to show how easy it would have been to kill the Fury's crew and not lose a single man.
This reminded me of an old B-grade Western where the Indians ride in an endless circle around settlers' wagons getting themselves killed, big time.
These days American movie makers have good ideas for films but, almost invariably, they have no idea how to end a story properly and concentrate on what would have really happened.
The ticket price for this film should have been halved, because that's all you got; one half of a good movie. Of course, in this documentary, they didn't go into why they went with crazy military tactics that had nothing to do with reality.
Several senior people in the crew bang on and on about accuracy and research; that's great, that's a good thing, but all that is wasted if the climax of the film is just about as wrong as you can make it. BH
I justify it by thinking the best of the wehrmacht was killed off in the east, and whats left have little experience or training. I remember hearing about an M26 seeing a Pz.4 charging at them after bouncing an HE shot. While it sounds stupid for the tiger, it was basically a stroke of luck that the sherman encountered a braindead tiger crew.
Also the tiger was getting its position smoked off, which people seem to have completely forgotten. Imagine if the tiger was smoked off, and then flanked to the side by 2 shermans. They were forced to move forward aswell.
Wonder why they didn't use the real story of this Tiger -- where its turret jammed -- to create a more believable victory in the film?
@@honkhonk8009 Yeah well it is a culmination of the complete historical inaccuracies in this film that make people mad. The Tiger being completely brain dead and the SS battalion just sending men at a Sherman instead of having them grab panzerfausts and go around in the dark.
That wasn't the only bad scene, there were several. It started badly at the beginning when the two tanks are circling each other in the field like some incompetent circus.
@@honkhonk8009 except that little experience or training is not correct. The various elite units were fire brigaded back and fore...21st Panzer in Normandy, Leibstandarte and others plus the indie Tiger units
26:43 Fair enough but they actually replicated the german Mg's s multiple times stupidly in the movie. Nobody would open fire on a Tank with an MG.
No combat soldier would waste bullets on any Tank ... unless the hatch was opened :)
It's understandable to open fire of a heavy MG on a tank depending of it's type and where you're shooting. Shooting repeatedly and constantly the tracks and/or the gun of a tank is an actual way to make a total tank knock off way easier.
acually it was a common tactic , it desrupts the gunners vision if oyu shoot at his gun scope or the commanders copula it also distracts the tank from flanking units that will take it out from behind
You would fire at the drivers periscope to blind him and other periscopes to blind the crew . Plus if tank was being followed by infantry the bullet's would get some of them especially their legs as the gap between the floor and the ground was at least 1foot as you can see in some of the shots.
I just love the casual description war crimes
Thanks for posting.
Not even the most rookie commander could make such mistakes the basic rules reached in the German tank commander school is: in a tank column shoot the first tank because it’s usually the most superior one if this is not the case shoot the one that could be the most problematic (armor, speed, or cannon) after that destroy the one in the end of the column, the tactic is to leave the tanks in the middle of the column with two options turn towards your tank (in this case a Tiger 1 (pz-VII) or to try to escape but in both options is in your range leaving them to be hunted down by the Tiger, and also the Tiger had a superior position where it could hunt all of the tanks without having to move an inch the huge mistake of going forward left the back part (the most vulnerable part of the chasis) completely vulnerable to being shot, also the officers that lead that SS battalion could had ended it all with one single panzerfaust, no need to sacrifice almost all your entire battalion only ONE panzerfaust
you are absolutely right concerning the PanzerFaust . each batallion had dozen of those ? so why silly sacrifice , it's sucks ! Laurent Deckers .
That's one thing people hate with this film the laser light show!
They're called tracers.
@@mikevoisine2886 yes I know but I didn't feel that was the correct word to describe what this looked like!
@@AFV85 Yeah, I see what you mean. I thought the tracers of the tank guns were pretty realistic. Not the MGs tracers, though. It takes about 200 meters for a tracer bullet to light up and you can hardly see them during daylight, so...Yeah, it kind of made it look like lasers, I agree.
@@mikevoisine2886 In this he did say he uses tracers and goes on about the different colours for countries using the Green for German but he must have used more than normal phosphorus or whatever is used because it's pretty crazy to well normal tracers! it looks like the ww2 Soviet Katyusha rocket launcher haha!
@@AFV85 Haha, yeah pretty much loll
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Amazing video 🙏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Fascinating video, thanks.
"German tanks are cold & soulless" is 'THE' dumbest, ignorant & spectacularly wrong sentence I have heard this year! BTW: If you are going to spend a fortune on detail & accuracy don't bundle it into a five cent plot. Large numbers of Germans were gunned down at the end of the movie, hopefully a few of them were the script writers playing extras. What a shambles!
Exactly, I'm not cold and soulless:(
@@panzerkampfwagenviiimaus6374 Neither am I :/
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So impressed with the level of accuracy of the uniforms and vehicles in this movie. Watching it makes to FEEL like you ate in 1945. INCREDIBLE detail training and effort by everyone. But the Tiger fight and the closing scene was unrealistic sadly - the WSS would have wiped Fury out in seconds.
Yes sadly indeed. For the sake of realism they could have showed more ''german accuracy' . The 88 was the pinnacle of accuracy and penetration but yet they depict it as an airsoft gun shooting potatoes that keep ricocheting.
I liked the movie but there where so many tactical inaccuracies that I didn't think it was a "great" movie. I agree the Tiger fight and the "last stand" scenes where absolutely bollocks.
And people still bitch and say the movie isn't accurate.
@@yolanda231000 Why was the Tiger fight bollocks?
@@jsullivan2112 plenty of videos about it. As a start, the Tiger wouldve shot Fury first as it was the point vehicle and had the most powerful cannon. Then it would absolutely not move toward them, except maybe the few meters to get out of the smoke. Also, its rounds would've *never* bounced off a Sherman, especially on the side. And finally, they wouldn't have missed a single shot, especially with the Shermans coming at them in a straight line.
Oh and also, if the scene was realistic but Fury still wasn't destroyed first for some reason, its cannon was actually powerful enough to kill a Tiger.
So realistically the Americans would all be dead in a minute, and if Fury somehow wasn't shot first then they would have won in seconds.
So amazing not war obviously not but the production of this film I’ve watched it so many times.
Brilliant
Can’t helped but watch this with tears.., we owe them so much…
The "Fury" is one of the best war movies ever made. I've seen it several times. War machines, tanks, weapons, drama, scenes, incredible set details, war story, death and surprising home scenes. Definitely, you must watch that movie!
The tanks scenes arent even historically accurate
Lol
Solltest mal weniger Scheisse rauchen!
For all the films inaccuracies and hyper drama, it's still very interesting and unique for giving us a look at Germany in the LAST month of the war, and the way German society collapsed over itself
Nothing interesting for an War Veterans !!!
What a great video, thanks!!!
The fact that 131 has a specific history is amazing!
Really enjoyed this behind the scenes film brilliant insight in to how it was done 👍
27:39 -- according to the "How Accurate is this movie?" episode on "Fury," this is where everything is wrong: 4 tanks all alone, no infantry support, the last tank (not the first) was taken out first, the German tank moved out of its covered superior position into the open when there was no reason to do so, etc.
Something not many people realise is that the Tiger I moving out of cover was a legitimate response. Fury did not fire smoke shells into the Tiger. They fired Willie Pete, which is White Phosphorous. That thing is a gas that literally burns the air around it and burns you alive if you don't seal the hatches fast enough. To be fair, that Tiger should have stopped after leaving the White Phosphorous but these crews are probably inexperienced.
@@commanderbacara225 Yeah well the movie should have ended way earlier because the Tiger I should have taken out Fury when they were in a column.
To see the faults in this film i would say you would have to have served in the forces. Therefore understanding tactics. To people who have not served its a very good film showing the horrors of war.
Nice movies ,perfect made.i did enjoy watching 3 times.
😳👌👍very good
Thank you
I love the tiger the best tank for me even today it's the best looking tank ever
It's literally the meanest looking tank
Yes your right it is respect
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What about the tiger 2 still looks modern to this day germans invented all modern weapons stg44 modern assault rifle night wision jet planes first jet powerd flying wing v2 misile first fuel injected engines in planes smart bomb fritz x and so on and on....
And they still do german engenering is the best in the world vag bmw and mercedes the bentley and rolls was crap untill it became german and lambo and bughatti and so on and on ....
Tiger 2 I like it's armour is better but it looks like the panther I have to look at it for a minute but they was both good tanks I just like the look of the tiger 1 I love German engineering it's the best to tell you the truth I wish the Nazi's one the war they did some stuff that was not good I wore go in to that but every thing you said was good so thank for writing to me I think we have the same view on German engineering respect from England
Wow, the 76mm shell could penetrate 4" of armor at 100 yards, too bad the 88mm could do the same out about two miles
Bigger gun and bigger calliber, what else you expected? In fact, the soviets already used a 152mm ML-20 howitzer which was capable of blowing up Tiger 1s with only the explosion shock of a HE shell, and even tho, none remembers this artillery (unless they put tracks on it and call as SU/ISU-152)
2 miles? In your dreams.
I am a korean. Did you know that the main character of this movie is modeled after an American soldier in the Korean War? Many Koreans remember him. He held key points alone and held them at key times in the war. Much more heroic than the movie.
I have seen it 25 times 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍The best movie ever ...
Good to see Carl Fredricksen 17:59 still smiling after his appearance in UP!
From what I’ve read American units didn’t fight Tigers in France, more often than not they faced off with Panthers.
Or simple panzer 4s...
@@christophmuller924 yes:) sorry I'm not good with correct German.
Very interesting and informative. Thank you.
that's awesome. Tiger 131 and they even showed some footage of the ole 'Thunderbolt' Sherman! had to pause it and snap a couple screenshots of that!
이것은 제 생각에 최고의 탱크 전투 영화입니다🏅강인해 보이는 콜리어 병장은이 ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ
영화를 그의 최고 중 하나로 만들었다🎥🥇
몇몇 자막이 아쉬운 부분이 있었지만 덕분에 잘 보았습니다.
"탱크 부대는 전쟁 전에는 기갑부대였어요"라는 자막은, "기갑부대는 전쟁 전에는 기마부대였어요"라고 번역하시는게 맞습니다. 기마병이 전쟁에서 할 일이 없어지게 되니까 "뭐에 타고 싸우는건 똑같으니까 기병대가 탱크를 운전하게 하자"면서 변경되었거든요.
American bias is so strong the German tanks were beautiful
*Jewish director bias
What a Piece of Work.
Best job I ever had.
Having a tank drive over you is pretty scary, even if you are a stuntman with a hole in the ground beneath you or not.
100% they tested that thing rigorously. Stuntmen have to be extremely confident in their gear and their set. They didn't just whip it all together, it took weeks or even months of planning, prepping, testing, and practicing the final shot. By the time the stuntman actually got run over he'd already done it 100 times.
Amazing 👏
I did not expect them to use the real deal Tiger Tank, holy.
I love the scene where the shermans are silhouetted on top of some hills...every tankers nlghtmare
hahahahaha ,
actually not. As a tanker you would be happy to have that clear shot. Usually you would try to only expose the turret but not the whole tank.
God this video pissed people off😂
With full reason to do so..
@@sotis1756 I like ALL Your comments !
Although not a perfect movie I’ve watched it several times and still enjoy it. I liked the acting
That's a firefly Sherman
in real life brad would have been the first to die in the tiger attack because you never hit the rear tank in a convoy you hit the front then the rear
He was hit a few times with sniper bullets still he made his last hero stand inside the tank ha ha what a load of Hollywood nonsense
Don’t try to analyse this film, there is nothing that makes any sense. Nothing. I was glad that they got shot and I was able to leave the theatre. I can tell you it was dead silence afterwards, nothing to say or talk about.
Enjoyed this so much that I have to watch the movie again. Brilliant documentary.
22:30 lovely, the way he casually makes a jocular admission of committing war crimes!! Enemy surrender? Not today, Fritz.
I hope he's talking only about combat encounters, and not rules around not abusing non-combatants, women and children, not poisoning water sources, torture, and other such things
Did you miss the parts where he specifies that it was the SS they didn't trust to surrebder, after they experienced multiple false surrenders by them? Which is also very much a war crime. Like yea it's rather cold, but once you see the enemy using the promise of surrender as a way to let your guard down, you're going to be pretty sceptical the next time you see a white flag.
Fabulous !!!! Thank you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...better "soulless" than a "deathtrap" like the american and russian cans...
The one thing that everyone forgets is the Germans were fighting for their own homes, yes the war was pretty much lost, but honestly how hard would you fight if someone was invading your home?
if hitler hadnt been a total moron, and if he had a few years more, nobody could stopped the Germans, the Technology of that time was so much ahead, they only lacked, in everything, to propell all this inventions, and to pull some salt in the Mouth, today we use a old Nazi Genozide Wounderwapon in every War.. Depleted Uranium Ammunition, a weapon wich not only kills the enemy the own troops to, (Gulf War Syndrom) a weapon that not only kills fast, it poisons the Ground, make generations of People Sick and kill them with Chancer, DU Ammunition is the modern Salted Lands Methode, if u fight a Enemy make shure he never gets up again and the best Eugenic behavior, is to destroy the Genepoole and poison the food and water even the air... and call that brining of Freedom and Democraty...
Yes we are so much better today so much better...
tell the french that
That’s right and these war criminals are talking about not taking prisoners like it’s ok to kill a surrendered person under the Geneva convention not to mention the rape and all the other war crimes there were no so called good sides in ww2 that’s for sure
@@tawipausian8003 France never truly surrended you uneducated moron.
The resistance and more importantly the colonies were still in the game until the end of the war.
Don't believe me ? Google Free French Forces or Battle of Bir Hakeim.
You're welcome.
Lugul banda Hitler was as you say a complete moron without him WW2 wouldn't have happened , the invasion of Russia was the supreme act of lunacy that doomed the German people.
Well this documentary only took one year to watch, in instalments. A testament to its intensity more than anything. Good job, great movie. Ok rah
now we want a behind the scenes of the making of making this behind the scenes of fury.