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There’s an episode of Family Guy that Peter and Chris go on a “spiritual quest” into the woods and when they stop to rest, one of them asks, “Hey, if a tree falls and no ones around, does it make a sound?” To which all of the now talking trees answer, “Oh hell yes, Scott fell the other day and hasn’t stopped bitching about it since.” Then the trees play the worlds smallest violin. Hilarious. 😂
😂 lol true very true if he says if a rock is hitted and the person feels pain it's just the feeling then guess what why are people able to see the wound and the same stone also if one tree falls and no one hears it then it doesn't exist then what about the person who saw it in future standing and later didn't found it then eventually realised it has fallen then he would probably say that the tree and the fallen tree are different lol 🤣 if he says so why can't I tell my friends that they don't exist
The question is not "if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it still make a sound" but rather "if a man speaks his truth in the forest with no woman to hear him, IS HE STILL WRONG." THAT is the question.
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Yeah I wasn't watching the video I was just listening to it and I could hear people talking it sound like someone talking in another room you couldn't make out words but it sounded like people's voices. When you said it sounds like a cat stuck in a piano I was thinking to myself but it sounds like a bunch of people talking behind a wall.
I think I saw the piano, and expected to hear typical notes from a piano, and my brain removed the distorted background noise. When the words were added, I heard the voice. I think I died a little.
In human beings, our visual perceptions override what we hear. Check out one of the many videos about the McGurk Effect & prepare to have your mind blown 🤯 again!
You explained it pretty well. About the Copenhagen thingie: we humans use nightvision in a green tint, meaning that we can see the slight differences of green in darkness much easier than red for example. The reason for that is because our eyes evolved to see predators in the jungle easier. So, everyone's green is the same green. Also, plants are green for a reason too. :)
6:08 - I dunno; this idea that if a human being isn't there to perceive something it doesn't exist sounds like someone had a pretty inflated idea of mankind's importance. 9:39 - If a tree falls in the forest, it sends out sound waves, whether anyone is there to perceive them or not. 10:57 - I stand by my answer! 15:05 -Now that's amazing!
I agree completely with your point about the tree. It is still moving the air waves that would produce the sound of someone was there too perceive it. Therefore yes the sound exists.
@@richardtherichard26 You're right the air would still get displaced but in order for a sound specifically to happen there HAS to be something to percieve it. The sensation that is produced by stimulation of the ears by vibrations transmitted through any medium; that is the definition of a sound. The energy produced and oscillation of the medium around it will happen no matter what, I think that's where people are getting confused.
@@richardtherichard26 Incorrect. The vibrations exist but the word sound defines the experience of those vibrations going through an ear, sending signals to a brain, and the brain interpreting those signals and then presenting the information to our consciousness as what we call sound. Vibrations are not "sound".
when the tree falls, it just vibrates it becomes a sound when that wave reaches you, and it always does, but it might be so weak, that you won't ever notice it
Can you hear me now? There really is no 'here' here, ya hear? I am a scribble on the sub-stream wall. Graffiti. Much like you. And these are the Sounds of Silence. And the sign flashed out its WAR ning
@@alanpaulsen7776what if you was next to the tree and heard it while I on the other side of the world didn't know it ever happened. Does it exist to me still or just to you? Aka the question is a load of wank just like majority of philosophy. I almost find it insulting to a greater power to suggest our own perceptions is what dictates whether their creating is real or not.
It’s interesting how the philosopher conditions everything around us to the human perception. By that conclusion, nothing would exist without us, which theoretically creates an existential paradox since, well.. we are not the beginning of things. Before the first conscious human, what then kept things a reality? Better yet, before consciousness, what was? I really love this subject.
I love Phil. Too! I would say although your point is right, perception is the differential. A differing beings senses, say a human to a cat, would hear the sound differently, so before humans, most things wouldn’t have been perceived in the form as we perceive them. (Didn’t watch the vid before I commented by the way, but yes, 42 summed it up well!)
The paradox disappears if you believe that there is, and always was a universal consciousness. I have to this point, come to favor a universal consciousness that we are also part of, due in part to the theory behind the double slit experiments.
@@pauldavidson4977 elaborate please why the experiment brought you to that conclusion. I also believe in a universal consciousness (I call it God), but although I am familiar with the experiment, I cannot deduce your reasoning. Thanks
Yes, of course. But being as we're alone when we do it, we get to enjoy the illusion that we are right, since no women were there to correct us. I'd call that idealism.
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Oh my Dear Thoughty, the picture of King Henry VIII's wife that you used was not Katherine Howard, it was Jane Seymour. She was his second and only wife that Henry "truly adored" throughout his tyrannical reign because she died in childbirth....if you call that love.
I disagree with conflating “sound” and “hearing”. Sound is the vibration of the physical world, and hearing is an interpretation of that vibration. A falling tree produces sound, regardless of witnesses, who may or may not hear it.
The words "sound" and "hearing" are just fuzzy human concepts. Their meaning is not universal, they are subject to the interpretation of the individual. For you "hearing" is the act of translating vibration, but for others it might simply denote the ability to translate vibrations. For someone who speaks a different language it might be yet another thing. It's just semantics so arguing about it is a bit futile.
@@chraiflame6631 Hey! Yes, it’s true that terms can mean different things, but my real point is that there are (at least) TWO phenomena here: the vibration of the air, and the perception of it by a mind. Using different words for the two makes the conversation more useful, even if someone would prefer different terms from the ones I would use. The video sort of lumps them together, and I feel like that’s kind of inaccurate. But you’re right, terms can vary between people and places.
@@baruchben-david4196 I understand the point. Personally, I think that Solipsists don’t exist when I can’t see them, but everything else physical is certainly existing, unless all of our observations of the world are literally contrivances. I don’t assume we are living in the Matrix, or that the entire universe is in service to my mind.
The whole "if a tree falls in a forest does it make a sound?" thing has always annoyed me; even without the plants "hearing" as it were, the animals still hear trees fall.
For me the thing that annoyed me with these kinds of theories is that it's pretty much a self centered act. As if you are thr center of the universe, when in truth the world just moves on regardless of your existence
@@johndownes3528 someone being there to be aware of it does not change the laws of physics. None of us have ever seen a dinosaur yet we know they existed. Edit: yes perception determines reality, but just your reality. The rest of the universe doen't care.
This argument doesn’t annoy me. It infuriates me. The question is not about sound because you can define it differently... it’s that if there is no being to observe something, dose it exist. So what about thinks like planets out of our solar system. People without telescope definitely can’t perceive it. So did it only come in to existence when scientists discovered it? So then we had to have created the universe because nothing existed before we observed it. It’s stupid. And something else to note... the whole thing where the world changes based on how you perceive it. No it doesn’t... your perception changes not the world.
Thoughty you are seriously THE BEST at breaking down the understand of these ideas. Just making them more malleable is so nice it made this video one of my favorite, but it’s hard to have a favorite when there so much to have interest in.😁👍🏼
Roddenberry's Next Generation introduced Ensign Barkley -- a rather quirkish genius with the holodeck -- he created his own holo-lab -- and later, Commander Barkley was responsible for bringing Voyager and Captain Jane home 376 years early. hint: Based on the Irish Philosopher's Idealism
Why does he always change his title. I'm starting to think it is just to get people to comment what his old title was so he gets more comments and therefore gets more views on the algotithm
@@jovaniromo8481 you can get software to change titles and thumbnails based on tests: if the first title is deemed to have failed, try the second title.
This is basically how I felt without smell and taste during Covid. It's near impossible to describe the loss and I never even really thought about the functions until they were gone.
When I was 12, I was fishing by myself on a small pond behind my house. I had been there, alone and making few movements and no noise for about 3 hours. Suddenly, movement in the woods caught my eye and I watched with my mouth hanging open as a small, healthy looking green tree fell without making a single sound. I had heard that question/thought experiment before and knew 100% in my 12 year old mind at that moment that no…. if a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, it does not make a sound. I knew this because apparently they also do not make a sound if they just think they are alone. Ha!
Here is the REAL question nobody has been able to answer: "When R2D2 and C-3PO are traversing the hallway of the blockade runner, how is it that, with all the blaster fire coming off between the stormtroopers and the rebels, they never ONCE get hit by blaster fire?"
@@ermacjones4821 I have another one: In the opening of ROTS, as the opening title recedes and disappears, the first thing we see is the star destroyer. It is COMPLETELY Quiet, NO ships or battle around, yet, after Anakin and Obi-Wan swoop over it, which is really only a few seconds later, there is a full-scale battle where there was none just SECONDS before. How did a major, well-in-progress skirmish just happen to appear in a few seconds from nothing?
“If a tree falls in a forest…” that setup requires the expectation that “There is a tree in a forest.” So, you can’t then say, “No, because there’s no tree.”
Just gonna leave this here: Forest | Definition of Forest by Merriam ... 1 : a dense growth of trees and underbrush covering a large tract A fire destroyed acres of forest. · 2 : a tract of wooded land in England formerly owned by the ...
@@bradleyfreeman9220 is that not why OP stated that you cannot claim that there is no tree? Because a forest must, by definition, have trees? Perhaps I missed something
We still have it to this day, what is the difference between this and the simulation theory, but one thinks the rock isn’t there because it’s a simulation.
Not really. I can give you an even simpler example I've pondered for a while: If something needs to produce a sound for me to hear it, and something must be present for me to see it, then how come in my dreams I can see and hear anything; even things I have not experienced?
@@neilcreamer8207 you are correct, however my point is that during dreams I am not interacting with the physical world, and yet I can have the same experiences and more. With that in mind, who is to say that what we call reality isn't mostly the construct of your brain?
I've noticed that in this channel there's always someone who is in charge of telling what the original name of the video was. I arrived some months ago, and was wondering if that thing of telling the original name was something that Arran asked for from those, who were part of the community? Just had the doubt.
Its one of the worst. He mis-uses multiple philosophical terms or confuses them with each other. Read an article about Descartes and Berkeley and Solipsism and you will be baffled how he butchers the concept. You literally can't understand Schopenhauer or Hegel if you dont understand the problem of solipsism.
I think it is great as well. Pretty deep and heavy subjects but still presented in a 'light' way so you dont feel depressed after watching. For that feeling i suggest Vsauce hihi
As I keep watching this video the more I realise you only see/hear/feel things only if you are aware of them... A tree can fall behind you and you won't hear it if you are focused on something else
"The Old Question Nobody Has Been Able To Solve" Me, in my head: "How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood? Oh I've got to hear this!" I absolutely love your channel. I can't get enough of the content.
obviously it won’t make any noise when anyone’s around to save the simulation some processing power, that would be a shit ton of mp3 files of trees falling going to waste
There's also the double slit experiment which shows that, rather than us perceiving reality because it exists, reality exists because we perceive it. Praise be to the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
"If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" This is like saying, "if I didn't experience it, it didn't happen." Yes. Yes it does. My uncle had a GardePro trail cam placed in the woods of his 8 acre farm, at the time, loving to catch nature in their natural settings (wild turkeys, deer, skunks, racoons and opossums) when one morning his trail camera caught an old dead maple tree fall, and though we caught about 3 feet of the top of the tree land 15-20 feet from the trail cam, after seeing the downed tree, walking out to routinely check on the trail cam, we wanted to see if we caught when the tree fell, and lo and behold we did...though we only got the top of the the 30 foot tree, the video caught the noises before and after the tree landed. First, There was a very loud crack, like a large fire cracker then a loud sweeping sound when the tree fell through other neighboring trees and a loud thud when it landed, shaking the trail cam, too. So, technically or officially, no one was around. I'm trying to find this video to share it, here. To Prove no one was around and it still made a noise.
but the 'sound' the tree made was only there because that trail cam had a sound recording device, similar to the human ear it senses vibration in the air and transmits or stores that information as an electrical signal. when you review the footage, that electrical signal is displayed through speakers which turn it to air vibrations again, which in turn your ear can perceive and send that information to your brain which interpretes it as 'sound'
@@ThePuschkin1986 I understand that but still, no one was around, implying no human was ever present. This particular philosophy is but purposely an intelligent kind game and somewhat a play in thinking where when one first hears it, it’s mind blowing but actually isn’t because the world or sound obviously never is silent just humans aren’t around to hear it. They’re simply just not around when these particular vibrations crack the air.. if it ain’t broke don’t try to fix it, kinda thing.
@@ThePuschkin1986 I understand that but still, no one was around, implying no human was ever present. This particular philosophy is but purposely an intelligent mind game and somewhat a play in thinking where when one first hears it, it’s mind blowing but actually isn’t because the world or sound obviously never is silent just humans aren’t around to hear it. They’re simply just not around when these particular vibrations crack the air.. if it ain’t broke don’t try to fix it, kinda thing.
The Copenhagen interpretation relates to the collapse of the wave function whenever a measurement/interaction happens, it doesn't say we all live in our own universe.
Well the waveform is only visible when particles are moving. As soon as you stop the movement the waveform is still there. But you no longer are able to observe that. The same way a picture doesnt say shit about what happened before and after the moment that picture was taken. Also the moment we measure something we are pinpoiting a moment in time. Whatever we observe or measure is in that moment alone. Also recording does not count as something usefull. Cause those are frames per second. All moments in time after eachother. We simply not able to observe anything else then moments/points in time.
It comes down to the individual’s definition of “sound.” If it’s depending on someone to hear it, than no. If it’s simply the presence of sound waves, than yes.
Some1 should give him a body camera...but TELL him that its a stealth generator taken off a stealth fighter. Just press this button, and you.can do whatever you want...you'll be invisible...we PROMISE.
So if I don't perceive the bird's flying overhead, the poo on my car isn't really there? Thanks for these videos, they're always so interesting and well told. Now I don't need to clean my car...
that achually makes sense as the Reverend would undoubltly believe God perceives everything thus the Tree always makes a sound, in fact. this would be the bridge between idealism and materialism. Ironically.
This man has no idea how much of a highlight he is in my day, you’re a legend bro. I wake up drink a cup of coffee and feel like I learn something before work or I’ll literally fall into deep sleep listening to your thought provoking videos. Keep up the great work “42” 💯 I appreciate your work my guy.
This channel and Mr. Ballen are my 2 favorite UA-cam channels as of now. Mr Ballen tells stories very well (sometimes forgets certain details) and thoughty covers more topics and has way more details. Gonna become a patron soon
Short answer, no it doesn’t. It created atmospheric pressure changed that would require a living organism to have the right sensors, ears, to take the pressure modulation and interpret the modulation as sound.
"stuck a sewing needle in his eye" doing this voluntarily is mind boggling. I have to get injections in the eye once a month and it isn't pleasant and that is _with_ lidocaine.
AdeBalogun Yusuf I’m talking about the piano not the main theory here, it’s like talking about how you got bit my a mosquito when I’m talking about exercising
The whole plants hearing thing reminded me of this experiment done by a Japanese scientist where he took 3 different jars/cups of water and told them positive things, negative things, and then nothing to the 3rd one, and then studied them under a microscope to see structure of the water and found out that the water with positive affirmations had a nice and pretty pattern while the one with negative words looked ugly and dirty, and the one that wasnt told anything didnt have any effect to it what so ever
Always found that a fascinating one. Also human meditating certain emotions projected onto water as it freezes and the ice crystals yielded the same results
I’d like to think that 19th and 20th century theoretical physicists built a time machine and went back in time to that period and hinted towards idealism so that people would believe their quantum theories that sounded like nonsense.
Thanx Thoughty2, that was a great "discussional video" I'm so glad for your content.! My brain is a complete "grey sludge" after a 38hr working week & you always put me back on track. Keep up the good work.
Ego is false. Society tells us that we need “success” or “love” to be happy and content. This is false. What we “need” is up to our beliefs, and we can change our beliefs.
13:18 ....This is beyond creepy... I could somewhat sense that it were words on the first go, but when the piano started producing audible words on the second go, I was gobsmacked. Enough to send chills down my spine. I wonder if some professinal piano player like Wibi Sourjadi can actually learn that. It would still take written words to make sense out of it but **still**...
The Queen you beheaded was Jane Seymour. She married H8 IMMEDIATELY following Anne's execution. Jane gave birth to Henry's male heir Edward. Two weeks later she died from complications of childbirth and was the Queen Henry was buried next to in the same vault at St. George's chapel. Henry, would have a "severe" or "unpleasant" sentence for you who didn't catch this grave mistake, and your employee who mixed up Catherine Howard and his beloved, male bearing Queen! After all, he contrived reasons for mass murdering 70,000 of his own subjects and 2 wives?
This was a fascinating video and I watched it from start to finish but I still have the original question did they ever find out who cut down all those trees
@@brunomendes4607 because the quote actually goes like this. "If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" If a Tree Falls Does it Make a Sound... Without the context it's pretty dumb. This is obviously just my opinion and it's not important at all I just made a dumb comment on it.
I honestly think the bigger question is how could someone chop down 50 trees in a town at night and no one hear them? We need to know more about this!🤔🤷
If there's a microphone around, and a recording device, then the sound will be picked up and recorded. Your electric piano promped me to consider Sasquatch speech that's been recorded. Remember the sound of a dial-up modem? Compare that to dolphin and whale sounds, cats' meows, dogs' and bears' whimpers and grunts, birdsong, the bleating of sheep and the mooing of cows. People easily forget that humans are animals.
“One of the recurring philosophical questions is: "Does a falling tree in the forest make a sound when there is no one to hear?" Which says something about the nature of philosophers, because there is always someone in a forest. It may only be a badger, wondering what that cracking noise was, or a squirrel a bit puzzled by all the scenery going upwards, but someone.” ― Terry Pratchett
I'm glad our lord FSM took it upon himself to hold us to this planet with their noodley appendages. Not keen on the idea of dark energy yeeting me into space. I've grown a liking to oxygen recently
I dunno, Barclays seems to think that the world materialises around him like a video game. Material reality is easy to deny if you have sufficient material comfort to afford ignoring reality. But a bad crop that you cannot hear or perceive a few miles away is likely have your village in oh so perceivable famine. Just another bourgeois writing for the entertainment of other bourgeois.
People think to much that they are superior. Yet we are basicly nothing in comparison. Even with all our knowledge we know nothing. And we always will know close to nothing.
17:22 - Well, I think I differ with you a little there. We "saw" Neptune the minute we saw Uranus. It just took us a while to figure out the details. We really saw both of them long before we consciously realized they were there. The world around us is highly, HIGHLY interconnected (entangled, if you want to talk quantum theory). In some ways perceiving anything is a large step toward perceiving everything in that thing's past light cone, yeah? We may spend our whole life trying to back calculate what those events in the cone must have been, but we indeed have "perceived" them when we perceive any effect that they have caused - even minute ones. So what this means is that our past light cone is "real." That does NOT mean it had to have been material - science really says NOTHING about reality in that way. Science is ALL about our perceptions. We build models to try to explain our perceptions in ways that are as simple and mathematically elegant as possible. We've done a pretty good job. But you really can't go beyond that - you can't PROVE anything beyond our perceptions.
Question: Is this a game that the community plays with Arran Lomas? Or is it something that is done for fun? You know, being fast enough to see the original title and typing it in the comment section.
"If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" The question already assumes the existence of a forest, tree, sound, and "one." So if you're already making all these assumptions, you also have to assume it does make a sound. Examine your assumptions.
If a tree falls in the middle of nowhere when nobody is around to hear does it still make a sound(s)!?!?!? Yes, sound(s) that no one is around to hear!
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“To be is to do" -Socrates.
“To do is to be”-Jean-Paul Sartre.
“Do be do be do”-Scooby Doo.
Do be do be do... Frank Sinatra
@@jerrydempsey3490 isn't he a singer?
Do be or not do be , Hamlet 😝😝
"Hotel?"- Trivago
"Yabba Dabba Doo." Fred Flintstone
There’s an episode of Family Guy that Peter and Chris go on a “spiritual quest” into the woods and when they stop to rest, one of them asks, “Hey, if a tree falls and no ones around, does it make a sound?” To which all of the now talking trees answer, “Oh hell yes, Scott fell the other day and hasn’t stopped bitching about it since.” Then the trees play the worlds smallest violin. Hilarious. 😂
I just found it on UA-cam and it’s the funniest thing I’ve seen all day lmao thank u for this
@@goosebxmps Heyyyy, Long live the Fonz! Glad you enjoyed it as much as I did!
@@mnassif3809 hey p e t e r
Your Classical man👏👏👏 Love that Show
God is about belief, Unconditional love. not about covid and suck a low stuff.
"they don't make a sound, they vibrate the air"
Yeah, and I don't run, I walk fast with one foot at a time
Running is actually a controlled fall.
@@Tony32 falling with style?
You are also time traveling, forward about one second per step
@@Tony32 Running is just falling and missing the ground because a foot got in the way.
😂 lol true very true if he says if a rock is hitted and the person feels pain it's just the feeling then guess what why are people able to see the wound and the same stone also if one tree falls and no one hears it then it doesn't exist then what about the person who saw it in future standing and later didn't found it then eventually realised it has fallen then he would probably say that the tree and the fallen tree are different lol 🤣 if he says so why can't I tell my friends that they don't exist
The question is not "if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it still make a sound" but rather "if a man speaks his truth in the forest with no woman to hear him, IS HE STILL WRONG." THAT is the question.
If perception was reality, then my fridge would always have beer.
Ha ha! My version: Perception is reality--until you learn otherwise.
But my fridge always has beer
"Would always have beer". But perhaps, on those rare occasions that it doesn't, its because your thirst is larger than life? Mmm? 😁
@@OneJohnFiveTwelve Always stock up before you finish the last batch. Proper planning and preparation prevents piss poor performance - and getting sober.
How many like could I give this!!!!🤜🤛
When that piano played before the words, it sounded like a person talking, then the words were added and my mind was blown.
Yeah I wasn't watching the video I was just listening to it and I could hear people talking it sound like someone talking in another room you couldn't make out words but it sounded like people's voices. When you said it sounds like a cat stuck in a piano I was thinking to myself but it sounds like a bunch of people talking behind a wall.
I think I saw the piano, and expected to hear typical notes from a piano, and my brain removed the distorted background noise. When the words were added, I heard the voice. I think I died a little.
I wasn't that shocked because you spoiled it with your comment.
Rest in pieces then
In human beings, our visual perceptions override what we hear. Check out one of the many videos about the McGurk Effect & prepare to have your mind blown 🤯 again!
They don't make em like this anymore folks. We must protect this man and his channel at all costs😭💜
A national treasure. You learn so much.
@@rossmullett2998 You learn so many useless facts is literally what his description for his channel is
@@isefomfise So go read your biology textbook kid.
fascinating guy Mr. Lomas...His book is awesome. Read it with his voice in your head and you'll love it. Its funny and interesting.
They still do. You have to be willing to look.
You explained it pretty well. About the Copenhagen thingie: we humans use nightvision in a green tint, meaning that we can see the slight differences of green in darkness much easier than red for example. The reason for that is because our eyes evolved to see predators in the jungle easier. So, everyone's green is the same green. Also, plants are green for a reason too. :)
As well as the fact that we have evolved to see more shades of green than any other color due to the abundance of plant life on our planet.
Cannot wait to declare "I refute it thus!" as a rebuttal in my next argument.
Once refuted, does the argument still exist?
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ahh, yes: the biggest philosophical question in History: What Will the Final Title of this Video be?
I was like tf why the title change 😂
Already lost lol
Yea... This happens with every video
Mandela effect lol
it changed... again... for the 3rd time now
I swear sometimes he switches to “42 here” and just doesn’t want us to know
the answer to everyting
Let me see you nekkie NOW
I think that as well 😂
It always says 42 when I put on the subtitles in his videos so he's just trying to screw with you by pretending otherwise in the first place.
I hear it that way every time.
6:08 - I dunno; this idea that if a human being isn't there to perceive something it doesn't exist sounds like someone had a pretty inflated idea of mankind's importance.
9:39 - If a tree falls in the forest, it sends out sound waves, whether anyone is there to perceive them or not.
10:57 - I stand by my answer!
15:05 -Now that's amazing!
@Atman Gotango Then why isn't reality perfect? Few people would create problems for themselves, suffering, etc.
I agree completely with your point about the tree. It is still moving the air waves that would produce the sound of someone was there too perceive it. Therefore yes the sound exists.
@@richardtherichard26 You're right the air would still get displaced but in order for a sound specifically to happen there HAS to be something to percieve it. The sensation that is produced by stimulation of the ears by vibrations transmitted through any medium; that is the definition of a sound. The energy produced and oscillation of the medium around it will happen no matter what, I think that's where people are getting confused.
@@tgbluewolf Do you like playing video games in god mode with no challenge or anything unexpected? Are your dreams perfect places?
@@richardtherichard26 Incorrect. The vibrations exist but the word sound defines the experience of those vibrations going through an ear, sending signals to a brain, and the brain interpreting those signals and then presenting the information to our consciousness as what we call sound. Vibrations are not "sound".
I think the real question nobody has answered is, “What the dog doin?”
There's a book called, what the dog did I think you should read
sheeeesh
Right now is just shitting on Your lawn 💩
A rather mundane activity
pretty obvious the dog is trying to get a mint.
when the tree falls, it just vibrates
it becomes a sound when that wave reaches you, and it always does, but it might be so weak, that you won't ever notice it
Can you hear me now? There really is no 'here' here, ya hear?
I am a scribble on the sub-stream wall. Graffiti. Much like you.
And these are the Sounds of Silence.
And the sign flashed out its WAR ning
"Sound" is defined as something being heard, so the question is not entirely stupid.
A sound has to be recieved by an observer or else it does not make sound.
@@alanpaulsen7776what if you was next to the tree and heard it while I on the other side of the world didn't know it ever happened. Does it exist to me still or just to you? Aka the question is a load of wank just like majority of philosophy. I almost find it insulting to a greater power to suggest our own perceptions is what dictates whether their creating is real or not.
Well, it makes something.@@alanpaulsen7776
It’s interesting how the philosopher conditions everything around us to the human perception. By that conclusion, nothing would exist without us, which theoretically creates an existential paradox since, well.. we are not the beginning of things. Before the first conscious human, what then kept things a reality? Better yet, before consciousness, what was? I really love this subject.
not all philosophical schools are like this btw :)
I totally agree with you Cairo , I find all of this topic utterly fascinating 🧐
I love Phil. Too! I would say although your point is right, perception is the differential. A differing beings senses, say a human to a cat, would hear the sound differently, so before humans, most things wouldn’t have been perceived in the form as we perceive them. (Didn’t watch the vid before I commented by the way, but yes, 42 summed it up well!)
The paradox disappears if you believe that there is, and always was a universal consciousness. I have to this point, come to favor a universal consciousness that we are also part of, due in part to the theory behind the double slit experiments.
@@pauldavidson4977 elaborate please why the experiment brought you to that conclusion. I also believe in a universal consciousness (I call it God), but although I am familiar with the experiment, I cannot deduce your reasoning. Thanks
Damn, that putin bit aged real well...
The age old question, "What happened to Thoughty 1?"
Based on the documentary dragon ball z he is an Android that absorbed the first one
@@ExplorationRandomDestination nice reference lol
Thoughty 1 is hiding from Thoughty 2 the doppelganger.
where’s thoughty 3?
@@dominiclavoie7612 He's a communist, we don't talk about him.
"If a man speaks up his mind in the woods and no women heard him, is he still wrong?" 🤔
Yes, of course. But being as we're alone when we do it, we get to enjoy the illusion that we are right, since no women were there to correct us. I'd call that idealism.
If a man agrees the woman is right but a man is considered always wrong wouldn't that make the woman wrong if the man is saying shes right?
Of course.... everyone knows that.....
@@fawniacaulford9448 If I say that you're right, will it make you wrong? 😵
Of course he is...he's a man, being wrong is independent from our female observation of the fact.
Thoughty2 deserves more subscribers and viewers.... This Channel can educate a lot of people with the perception of understanding the fundamentals of life and reality
Oh my Dear Thoughty, the picture of King Henry VIII's wife that you used was not Katherine Howard, it was Jane Seymour. She was his second and only wife that Henry "truly adored" throughout his tyrannical reign because she died in childbirth....if you call that love.
I disagree with conflating “sound” and “hearing”. Sound is the vibration of the physical world, and hearing is an interpretation of that vibration. A falling tree produces sound, regardless of witnesses, who may or may not hear it.
The words "sound" and "hearing" are just fuzzy human concepts. Their meaning is not universal, they are subject to the interpretation of the individual. For you "hearing" is the act of translating vibration, but for others it might simply denote the ability to translate vibrations. For someone who speaks a different language it might be yet another thing. It's just semantics so arguing about it is a bit futile.
@@chraiflame6631 Hey! Yes, it’s true that terms can mean different things, but my real point is that there are (at least) TWO phenomena here: the vibration of the air, and the perception of it by a mind. Using different words for the two makes the conversation more useful, even if someone would prefer different terms from the ones I would use.
The video sort of lumps them together, and I feel like that’s kind of inaccurate.
But you’re right, terms can vary between people and places.
Semantics.
But you're missing the whole point. The question is basically, if some event cannot be perceived, can it be said to have taken place?
@@baruchben-david4196 I understand the point.
Personally, I think that Solipsists don’t exist when I can’t see them, but everything else physical is certainly existing, unless all of our observations of the world are literally contrivances. I don’t assume we are living in the Matrix, or that the entire universe is in service to my mind.
How do you do this so well, every video is so interesting! You are so inspiring!
He looks so gentle and his voice is so satisfying. Just a perfect ytber
British accent makes everything sound nice
Moustache. 〰️
chocolate pizza is the best kind of pizza
Ooh title changed 😂
@@rmcod5743 dang
@@rmcod5743 OH MY GOD THE TITLE CHANGED I SEE YOU HAVE 2000+ IQ MATE
@@rmcod5743 What was the previous title?
@@thesauce1682 the first sentence of my comment
The whole "if a tree falls in a forest does it make a sound?" thing has always annoyed me; even without the plants "hearing" as it were, the animals still hear trees fall.
For me the thing that annoyed me with these kinds of theories is that it's pretty much a self centered act. As if you are thr center of the universe, when in truth the world just moves on regardless of your existence
@@TheMidnightLibrary you would never know
@@johndownes3528 someone being there to be aware of it does not change the laws of physics. None of us have ever seen a dinosaur yet we know they existed.
Edit: yes perception determines reality, but just your reality. The rest of the universe doen't care.
This argument doesn’t annoy me. It infuriates me. The question is not about sound because you can define it differently... it’s that if there is no being to observe something, dose it exist. So what about thinks like planets out of our solar system. People without telescope definitely can’t perceive it. So did it only come in to existence when scientists discovered it? So then we had to have created the universe because nothing existed before we observed it. It’s stupid. And something else to note... the whole thing where the world changes based on how you perceive it. No it doesn’t... your perception changes not the world.
Sound is just energy. The same thing could said of a pitch black cave. Does a rock in that cave exist if you can't see it?
Thoughty you are seriously THE BEST at breaking down the understand of these ideas. Just making them more malleable is so nice it made this video one of my favorite, but it’s hard to have a favorite when there so much to have interest in.😁👍🏼
Roddenberry's Next Generation introduced Ensign Barkley -- a rather quirkish genius with the holodeck -- he created his own holo-lab -- and later, Commander Barkley was responsible for bringing Voyager and Captain Jane home 376 years early. hint: Based on the Irish Philosopher's Idealism
As a fallen tree myself, can confirm
It's true, i was the forest
It's true i was a bird in the tree
It’s true, I was, no I still am the now flat squirrel.
It's false, these are UA-cam comments
Weak stem?
OG title: "If a tree falls does it make a sound?"
Title as of right now: "The old question nobody has been able to answer."
Why does he always change his title. I'm starting to think it is just to get people to comment what his old title was so he gets more comments and therefore gets more views on the algotithm
i cant find the question through all of the rhetoric
@@Mr-Money01 a lot of UA-camrs tend to do this, sometimes they make the title more clickbaity so that more people click on the video
Honestly if that’s the case that’s a good idea
@@jovaniromo8481 you can get software to change titles and thumbnails based on tests: if the first title is deemed to have failed, try the second title.
This is basically how I felt without smell and taste during Covid. It's near impossible to describe the loss and I never even really thought about the functions until they were gone.
If my girlfriend lifts $20 out of my wallet, but I don’t observe her doing it, am I still down $20?
Yes... Yes you are.
With your consent? Yes. Without your consent? No, you are the victim of a crime and owed compensation!
Only if you check your wallet. In all moments you don't check you wallet, you have no money at all.
@@jules-u4p Great answer 🤣
No, it reset everytime you look into your wallet
When I was 12, I was fishing by myself on a small pond behind my house. I had been there, alone and making few movements and no noise for about 3 hours. Suddenly, movement in the woods caught my eye and I watched with my mouth hanging open as a small, healthy looking green tree fell without making a single sound. I had heard that question/thought experiment before and knew 100% in my 12 year old mind at that moment that no…. if a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, it does not make a sound. I knew this because apparently they also do not make a sound if they just think they are alone. Ha!
Best comment yet 👌
Maybe you just dont exist.
@@Enmos Hahaha! There’s actually a little science that suggests none of us exist outside our own minds. Soooo….
this is honestly one of my favourite videos on yt
love the rabbit hole of questions you end up going through just by talking about a falling tree
Here is the REAL question nobody has been able to answer:
"When R2D2 and C-3PO are traversing the hallway of the blockade runner, how is it that, with all the blaster fire coming off between the stormtroopers and the rebels, they never ONCE get hit by blaster fire?"
Oh, that's just plot armor💁🏻♀️
Or you could call it "the luck of heroes", it sounds cooler I guess 🤷🏻♀️
@@ermacjones4821 I have another one:
In the opening of ROTS, as the opening title recedes and disappears, the first thing we see is the star destroyer. It is COMPLETELY Quiet, NO ships or battle around, yet, after Anakin and Obi-Wan swoop over it, which is really only a few seconds later, there is a full-scale battle where there was none just SECONDS before. How did a major, well-in-progress skirmish just happen to appear in a few seconds from nothing?
I'm convinced that dandelions hear my lawnmower running and dock for cover to not to be cut.
Descartes work was “Meditations” rather than “Mediations”. Love your channel.
“If a tree falls in a forest…” that setup requires the expectation that “There is a tree in a forest.” So, you can’t then say, “No, because there’s no tree.”
Just gonna leave this here:
Forest | Definition of Forest by Merriam ...
1 : a dense growth of trees and underbrush covering a large tract A fire destroyed acres of forest. · 2 : a tract of wooded land in England formerly owned by the ...
@@bradleyfreeman9220 is that not why OP stated that you cannot claim that there is no tree? Because a forest must, by definition, have trees? Perhaps I missed something
bradley freeman this is all too much for you.
Keeps loves 42 so much every other video is sponsored by keeps, but they keep these videos coming so I'm not complaining
I'm getting a head ache - you wont understand. Philosophers are OUT OF THEIR MINDS.
We still have it to this day, what is the difference between this and the simulation theory, but one thinks the rock isn’t there because it’s a simulation.
Not really. I can give you an even simpler example I've pondered for a while: If something needs to produce a sound for me to hear it, and something must be present for me to see it, then how come in my dreams I can see and hear anything; even things I have not experienced?
@@NikkedTruth You are experiencing things in your dreams.
@@neilcreamer8207 you are correct, however my point is that during dreams I am not interacting with the physical world, and yet I can have the same experiences and more. With that in mind, who is to say that what we call reality isn't mostly the construct of your brain?
Literally 🧠
Damn that title changed quickly!
The original title was called - If a Tree falls Does it Make a Sound?
Ok give this man a nobel prize for his 2000+ IQ
@@isefomfise 2000 likes should suffice instead
Why does he change the title every time he uploads?
I've noticed that in this channel there's always someone who is in charge of telling what the original name of the video was.
I arrived some months ago, and was wondering if that thing of telling the original name was something that Arran asked for from those, who were part of the community?
Just had the doubt.
@@89xixsem89 because he can?
One of your best episodes (and I've been watching your work since many years).
Its one of the worst. He mis-uses multiple philosophical terms or confuses them with each other.
Read an article about Descartes and Berkeley and Solipsism and you will be baffled how he butchers the concept.
You literally can't understand Schopenhauer or Hegel if you dont understand the problem of solipsism.
I think it is great as well. Pretty deep and heavy subjects but still presented in a 'light' way so you dont feel depressed after watching.
For that feeling i suggest Vsauce hihi
As I keep watching this video the more I realise you only see/hear/feel things only if you are aware of them... A tree can fall behind you and you won't hear it if you are focused on something else
As a Texan, hearing “tree feller” was pretty funny. Feller is our general term for a guy so I imagined a tree person.
Same 😂
Same in England too.. fella is also a guy.
Legend has it , when Thoughty2 first started out he couldnt grow a moustache, thats untill he tried Keeps!
I always thought the question started "If a bear sh ts in the woods..."
..and no one is around, does the shit make a sound?
Does it smell?
I always thought it was "Chris, what the fuck?!"
Yeah there is that one too but the other one is also a saying.
That question is, "Does a bear sh*t in the woods?" implying an obvious "yes." As in, "Do you want a million dollars?" "Does a bear sh*t in the woods?"
"The Old Question Nobody Has Been Able To Solve"
Me, in my head: "How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood? Oh I've got to hear this!" I absolutely love your channel. I can't get enough of the content.
He'd chuck all the wood that a woodchuck could if a woodchuck could chuck wood!
That's honestly a lot less stupid than the actual question in this video💁🏻♀️
If the tree has the potential to be heard then it indeed makes a sound.
What level of consciousness does a tree have to detect sound waves. Iis a tree conscious of it's own fall or the fall of it's neighbour.
obviously it won’t make any noise when anyone’s around to save the simulation some processing power, that would be a shit ton of mp3 files of trees falling going to waste
the egg came before the chicken because dinosaurs laid eggs too
@@xvieternal3352 there is no spoon
@@xvieternal3352 because it's a fork
Socrates been really quiet since this video dropped
he's been quiet since 399 BC
@aang love the last Airbender
There's also the double slit experiment which shows that, rather than us perceiving reality because it exists, reality exists because we perceive it.
Praise be to the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Ramen
"If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" This is like saying, "if I didn't experience it, it didn't happen."
Yes. Yes it does. My uncle had a GardePro trail cam placed in the woods of his 8 acre farm, at the time, loving to catch nature in their natural settings (wild turkeys, deer, skunks, racoons and opossums) when one morning his trail camera caught an old dead maple tree fall, and though we caught about 3 feet of the top of the tree land 15-20 feet from the trail cam, after seeing the downed tree, walking out to routinely check on the trail cam, we wanted to see if we caught when the tree fell, and lo and behold we did...though we only got the top of the the 30 foot tree, the video caught the noises before and after the tree landed. First, There was a very loud crack, like a large fire cracker then a loud sweeping sound when the tree fell through other neighboring trees and a loud thud when it landed, shaking the trail cam, too. So, technically or officially, no one was around. I'm trying to find this video to share it, here. To Prove no one was around and it still made a noise.
but the 'sound' the tree made was only there because that trail cam had a sound recording device, similar to the human ear it senses vibration in the air and transmits or stores that information as an electrical signal. when you review the footage, that electrical signal is displayed through speakers which turn it to air vibrations again, which in turn your ear can perceive and send that information to your brain which interpretes it as 'sound'
@@ThePuschkin1986 I understand that but still, no one was around, implying no human was ever present. This particular philosophy is but purposely an intelligent kind game and somewhat a play in thinking where when one first hears it, it’s mind blowing but actually isn’t because the world or sound obviously never is silent just humans aren’t around to hear it. They’re simply just not around when these particular vibrations crack the air.. if it ain’t broke don’t try to fix it, kinda thing.
@@ThePuschkin1986 I understand that but still, no one was around, implying no human was ever present. This particular philosophy is but purposely an intelligent mind game and somewhat a play in thinking where when one first hears it, it’s mind blowing but actually isn’t because the world or sound obviously never is silent just humans aren’t around to hear it. They’re simply just not around when these particular vibrations crack the air.. if it ain’t broke don’t try to fix it, kinda thing.
Yes! some one else finally said what I always say. It would make a noise. A sound is how it is perceived after someone hears it. Just my theory.
The Copenhagen interpretation relates to the collapse of the wave function whenever a measurement/interaction happens, it doesn't say we all live in our own universe.
Well the waveform is only visible when particles are moving. As soon as you stop the movement the waveform is still there. But you no longer are able to observe that.
The same way a picture doesnt say shit about what happened before and after the moment that picture was taken.
Also the moment we measure something we are pinpoiting a moment in time. Whatever we observe or measure is in that moment alone.
Also recording does not count as something usefull. Cause those are frames per second. All moments in time after eachother.
We simply not able to observe anything else then moments/points in time.
@@Syphirioth this reminds me of something I read ones stating time doesn't exist as we perceive it but only a constant state of existence.
@@hnks6862 Ye I think thats another way to look at it.
The Copenhagen interpretation only works if you don't look at it too closely...
It comes down to the individual’s definition of “sound.”
If it’s depending on someone to hear it, than no. If it’s simply the presence of sound waves, than yes.
Individuals dont get to define things in the grand scheme. Haha.
"When a pilot presses a button on the console of their Stealth Fighter, the jet becomes invisible. " - D.T.
Holy Shit, Rly? I need to.find that quote...for my book... ÷)
Some1 should give him a body camera...but TELL him that its a stealth generator taken off a stealth fighter. Just press this button, and you.can do whatever you want...you'll be invisible...we PROMISE.
@@snarflcat6187 I am so sorry, but I can't push the thumbs up button enough. (For the best reply) :)
So if I don't perceive the bird's flying overhead, the poo on my car isn't really there? Thanks for these videos, they're always so interesting and well told. Now I don't need to clean my car...
You still perceive the poop
Thoughty2: "The old question nobody has been able to answer"
Me: do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?
"Of course it does. And the bigger the tree, the bigger the sound." --- Reverend Jim
Ibbi da
@@garythemanhunter2228
You trying to speak Iroquois?
that achually makes sense as the Reverend would undoubltly believe God perceives everything thus the Tree always makes a sound, in fact. this would be the bridge between idealism and materialism. Ironically.
@@pathologicalliar8728 'Post Materialism' is the way forward!
This man has no idea how much of a highlight he is in my day, you’re a legend bro. I wake up drink a cup of coffee and feel like I learn something before work or I’ll literally fall into deep sleep listening to your thought provoking videos. Keep up the great work “42” 💯 I appreciate your work my guy.
This channel and Mr. Ballen are my 2 favorite UA-cam channels as of now. Mr Ballen tells stories very well (sometimes forgets certain details) and thoughty covers more topics and has way more details. Gonna become a patron soon
Me watching this in midnight until he brings up the “horror film”
I’m glad educational shit is interesting to me because i’m learning something and enjoying it. Thank you!
Short answer: yes it does. 🤣
No it doesn't. Sound is a reception of frequency. If there are no ears listening, then the tree made no sound.
Short answer, no it doesn’t. It created atmospheric pressure changed that would require a living organism to have the right sensors, ears, to take the pressure modulation and interpret the modulation as sound.
10:00 - he didn't watch the video
@Truth is here then it made a sound
@Truth is here That's the argument. if NO ears perceive it, then it made no sound.
"If a woman spoke in the forest and no one was there to hear her, would her husband still be wrong?"
Her husband is NEVER wrong...lol!
LOVING this type of content!!! don't enjoy the "history" heavy/dominant videos, but these science videos are great!
Well it’s a good thing he makes videos for everyone and not just you!
@@DereliqueMahBAWLS oooff! was only giving him praise, damn! XD
"stuck a sewing needle in his eye"
doing this voluntarily is mind boggling. I have to get injections in the eye once a month and it isn't pleasant and that is _with_ lidocaine.
Why is UA-cam turning their backs on small creators that initially made the platform great?
It's time to create competition for UA-cam
💰💶💵💷💰🤑
the putin joke at the beginning aged pretty well
Arran, as usual I'm hypnotized by both the content and your voice! Thanks for all your work!
That was fantastic Thoughty! I'm in awe. I actually learned something and my view of the world has slightly changed. Amazing video!
“Take a look at this digital piano and see if anything is odd”
Ahh yes, having a stroke and a seizure
The tree doesn’t have any means to make a sound.
Its not a flute
happens at 12:49 - it's the Coolest EXAMPLE of an AUDITORY ILLUSION !!!!
AdeBalogun Yusuf I’m talking about the piano not the main theory here, it’s like talking about how you got bit my a mosquito when I’m talking about exercising
Great videos, man. They give you a whole new perspective on reality, not just this one, but all of yours in general.
"Existence is subjective, you only know what you receive"
The whole plants hearing thing reminded me of this experiment done by a Japanese scientist where he took 3 different jars/cups of water and told them positive things, negative things, and then nothing to the 3rd one, and then studied them under a microscope to see structure of the water and found out that the water with positive affirmations had a nice and pretty pattern while the one with negative words looked ugly and dirty, and the one that wasnt told anything didnt have any effect to it what so ever
Always found that a fascinating one. Also human meditating certain emotions projected onto water as it freezes and the ice crystals yielded the same results
I don't think this is real
Unfortunately this was debunked as fake a while ago
@@lanceupperrcut Oh really? How did that go? Totally missed that
What is positive and negative? Not like the plant reacts to swear words
I’d like to think that 19th and 20th century theoretical physicists built a time machine and went back in time to that period and hinted towards idealism so that people would believe their quantum theories that sounded like nonsense.
Thanx Thoughty2, that was a great "discussional video" I'm so glad for your content.! My brain is a complete "grey sludge" after a 38hr working week & you always put me back on track. Keep up the good work.
Yes. Human's are not that important. We need to keep our egos in check
Speak for yourself!
Ego is false. Society tells us that we need “success” or “love” to be happy and content. This is false. What we “need” is up to our beliefs, and we can change our beliefs.
@@Theendman42 I need love and success.
@@minifridge8315 You're a small appliance. All you need is to be plugged in
@@BodyMusicification is it Dill-linger or Dill-linjer or Dil-ing-er
13:18 ....This is beyond creepy... I could somewhat sense that it were words on the first go, but when the piano started producing audible words on the second go, I was gobsmacked.
Enough to send chills down my spine. I wonder if some professinal piano player like Wibi Sourjadi can actually learn that. It would still take written words to make sense out of it but **still**...
I really enjoy those podcasts btw, keep doing those, please :)
The Queen you beheaded was Jane Seymour. She married H8 IMMEDIATELY following Anne's execution. Jane gave birth to Henry's male heir Edward. Two weeks later she died from complications of childbirth and was the Queen Henry was buried next to in the same vault at St. George's chapel.
Henry, would have a "severe" or "unpleasant" sentence for you who didn't catch this grave mistake, and your employee who mixed up Catherine Howard and his beloved, male bearing Queen! After all, he contrived reasons for mass murdering 70,000 of his own subjects and 2 wives?
"You have a beautiful stamen"
Lol
Is that what plants say to each other?
Flower: ''swallow my pollen!''
@@HardHardMaster Having allergies I can confirm that plants do not ask nicely.
@Rambal Ral, Sieg Zeon!!!!
If a man speaks in the forest and there is no woman there to correct him, is he still wrong?
Can a Karen still be a karen if there is nothing to karen about?
Found it boys, the cure for karens is to put them on a remote karen island
A bear does indeed make a sound when it shits in the woods with all those salmon bones to pass after all.
This was a fascinating video and I watched it from start to finish but I still have the original question did they ever find out who cut down all those trees
"If a Tree Falls Does it Make a Sound?" visible confusion
Yeah that was a stupid title. It didn't take him long to change it
@@MrKill_SC why stupid? literally everyone knows that question, have you never heard it?
Its not visible tho
@@brunomendes4607 because the quote actually goes like this. "If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"
If a Tree Falls Does it Make a Sound...
Without the context it's pretty dumb.
This is obviously just my opinion and it's not important at all I just made a dumb comment on it.
Not audible confusion?
I honestly think the bigger question is how could someone chop down 50 trees in a town at night and no one hear them? We need to know more about this!🤔🤷
If there's a microphone around, and a recording device, then the sound will be picked up and recorded. Your electric piano promped me to consider Sasquatch speech that's been recorded. Remember the sound of a dial-up modem? Compare that to dolphin and whale sounds, cats' meows, dogs' and bears' whimpers and grunts, birdsong, the bleating of sheep and the mooing of cows. People easily forget that humans are animals.
But we are gifted with something else to. But some people rather use their animal brain.
“One of the recurring philosophical questions is:
"Does a falling tree in the forest make a sound when there is no one to hear?"
Which says something about the nature of philosophers, because there is always someone in a forest. It may only be a badger, wondering what that cracking noise was, or a squirrel a bit puzzled by all the scenery going upwards, but someone.”
― Terry Pratchett
I've gotten obsessed with this channel
Same
I'm glad our lord FSM took it upon himself to hold us to this planet with their noodley appendages. Not keen on the idea of dark energy yeeting me into space. I've grown a liking to oxygen recently
The fact that life as we know it goes on long after we die pretty much disproves that whole theory
4:08 AGED LIKE FINE WINE LOOOL
I live two mins from weybridge this was crazy waking up to tree's cut down everywhere
But did you hear anything..?
Day one
For real, or are you joking?
I dunno, Barclays seems to think that the world materialises around him like a video game. Material reality is easy to deny if you have sufficient material comfort to afford ignoring reality. But a bad crop that you cannot hear or perceive a few miles away is likely have your village in oh so perceivable famine.
Just another bourgeois writing for the entertainment of other bourgeois.
Exactly. He sounded like a self involved narcissist.
People think to much that they are superior. Yet we are basicly nothing in comparison. Even with all our knowledge we know nothing. And we always will know close to nothing.
You talk a lot and still haven't proved anything
A question I keep asking, does Brazil exist if you don't know about it?!
Underrated comment
What is Brazil?
@@johnmiller8928 a fictional country like australia, that doesn't really exist
How many is a Brazilian?
@@johnmiller8928 if it does exist, which i dont believe, its basically hell, but worse. why? lets just say... you dont want to go to brazil.
17:22 - Well, I think I differ with you a little there. We "saw" Neptune the minute we saw Uranus. It just took us a while to figure out the details. We really saw both of them long before we consciously realized they were there. The world around us is highly, HIGHLY interconnected (entangled, if you want to talk quantum theory). In some ways perceiving anything is a large step toward perceiving everything in that thing's past light cone, yeah? We may spend our whole life trying to back calculate what those events in the cone must have been, but we indeed have "perceived" them when we perceive any effect that they have caused - even minute ones.
So what this means is that our past light cone is "real." That does NOT mean it had to have been material - science really says NOTHING about reality in that way. Science is ALL about our perceptions. We build models to try to explain our perceptions in ways that are as simple and mathematically elegant as possible. We've done a pretty good job. But you really can't go beyond that - you can't PROVE anything beyond our perceptions.
Sound is a relationship between an ear drum & waves in the air. . Without an observer there is no sound.
Yep, exactly what he said
@Benjamin Robinson
So, if you don't have wavy hair, you're just plain poop out of luck?
@@ahashdahnagila6884 lmfao ... Thanks
"If a Tree Falls Does it Make a Sound?"
- Original Title
Question:
Is this a game that the community plays with Arran Lomas?
Or is it something that is done for fun?
You know, being fast enough to see the original title and typing it in the comment section.
@@kvelez It's just fun for me. I like seeing how the titles change. I love watching his videos.
@@jonathanmoody8757 Thank you, I thought that I was missing something. But now I can continue watching in peace.
Have a great day.
"If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" The question already assumes the existence of a forest, tree, sound, and "one." So if you're already making all these assumptions, you also have to assume it does make a sound. Examine your assumptions.
4:03 well that’s funny 🤣
Here's another question to ponder over: If a tree falls, and the only people that are around to witness the event are all deaf, does it make a sound?
Now you're cooking with Crisco. You're a born philosopher.
Everyone wants to be Einstein, but we still live in Newton’s world.
Cringe
Yeah cringe
Yeah cringe
@Red Dwarf now that's cringe my friend
If a tree falls in the middle of nowhere when nobody is around to hear does it still make a sound(s)!?!?!? Yes, sound(s) that no one is around to hear!
Yea and only a self involved narcissist would believe otherwise.
@@karma6574 My bad misconstrued the comment! 🤳🏽🤦🏽