Ricky Wysocki On Top, What Is Prodigy Doing, Kevin Jones New Sponsor, DGPT Disables Comments | EP 76
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Chapters:
6:57 Brodie/Uli Week Recap
1:02:06 Preserve Recap
1:39:45 No Live Comments on UA-cam for FPO
1:44:00 DGN using Nate Perkins the right way with commentary
23:20 What is Prodigy Doing?
1:45:31 Prodigy Baskets Suck
1:52:09 Timeouts in Disc Golf?
2:07:45 Listener Questions
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6:57 Brodie/Uli Week Recap
1:02:06 Preserve Recap
1:39:45 No Live Comments on UA-cam for FPO
1:44:00 DGN using Nate Perkins the right way with commentary
23:20 What is Prodigy Doing?
1:45:31 Prodigy Baskets Suck
1:52:09 Timeouts in Disc Golf?
2:07:45 Listener Questions
Ya'll are not looking at the big picture, economically people are just not spending money. Disc golf isn't losing popularity, it's just that the average person can't afford discs that now cost 25 bucks a pop, tickets are now more expensive to go and watch. Putting food on the table is just more important at the moment.
Ricky's new disc is over 30$ right crazy
The people who fuelled the boom have all the discs they need now.
Yeah I was buying discs like crazy in 2019-2021, it was hard to find a champion aviar, now they have amazing discs, anything you can dream of, and I can’t justify it economically. But hey I probably have like 200 ‘old school’ discs so I’m content. I’m sure the majority of mid-class disc golfers who have been playing since pre-Covid can relate.
Speaking for myself, this is accurate.
Disc golf isn’t immune to this shitty economy
The carnival room at the pdga might be the best bit Brodie has ever done. I have tears.
"Young for my age" needs to be a shirt.
The landscape of pro disc golf over the last 4 years has changed completely. Top 10 players were almost non existent four years ago. Buhr. Robinsons. Antilla. Klein. Redalen. Rathbun. It will be interesting to see what happens w the contracts for the old guys like Barsby. Gurthie. Freeman. Conrad. Keep up the good work Foundation! The only ones in disc golf getting stronger.
Here's what Prodigy should do: use that money they just freed up to hire Simon Lizotte's disc-throwing machine. Use that machine to perfect the disc golf basket. Update all the existing Prodigy baskets to that new design. Market the new design as "Isaac Robinson approved". Win over the hearts and minds of the disc golfing world.
Uli, get a digital thermometer for your grill! 🔑 💯
I know everyone has different versions of ideal finishing holes but holes 17 & 18 at the Preserve are some of my favorites. It's refreshing to see a hole force you to shape a shot with touch after ripping super stable drivers on hyzer in the wind. Especially when followed by a final hole that presents an eagle opportunity, which creates larger swings down the stretch.
Homing pigeon disc finder sounds great, except for the fact that it would render any disc it is applied to illegal to use in a sanctioned event.
I’ve never seen anyone react to one of my vids before. Watching y’all get tickled was satisfying.
Yo Silas. I have one of you fighting a kangaroo 🦘 that I might finish one day. Lol.
Love the pod. Keep it up.
It tickled me too. Keep them coming :)
I think Uli’s point on time outs is that if anyone is willing to use them then they will call attention to their pace of play and will contextualize the time they take to throw/putt overall. So if someone calls a time out, their card mates will feel emboldened to call them on time violations later on in situations when no time out was called.
The tour needs to use the Mach X's for all tour stops. I have not seen many, in fact zero that I can remember, spit out on Mach X's.
Mach x's definitely have their fair share of problems, but I do think they are still very true. There just simply isn't enough innovation of baskets right now that should be. Wouldn't be hard to modify it, though, to fix its flaws.
I’m watching this not live and Brodie looks like Kramer when Kenny Rogers’ chicken place moved in next door lol
For the preserve: add OB and add real baskets and Isaac shoots the same score 😂
Make sure to season your new grill before your first use. You can look it up online
Sincerely
Brodie, You’re my ultimate favorite personality in sports, media, period. Your enthusiasm, sincerity and humility are priceless and contagious! You have to have a commercial/acting agent! Please, for the benefit of humanity, consider pursuing an acting career.
The huge problem with timeouts is the limit of only 2 PER ROUND. I can't imagine having to play a course like Northwood Black and only getting to spend more than 30s figuring out a scramble shot twice. Do we really want to watch Ricky or Calvin rush a tricky shot like that because they've already been off the fairway twice that round?
dont overthink
People just aren't buying that much. Most of the ppl that collect discs or purchase large amount of discs are getting elsewhere. There's a cross over with tournaments too. Bunch of discs given out there. And a tour disc is now 30 bucks. No fucking way it should cost that much. And everything else is expensive.
Glad you opened the chat to everyone.
Losing by 21 shots. 😂
@@Luffy-344 absolutely pathetic.
Quick notes on Wisconsin courses. The silver cup used to be a silver series, never a pro tour stop. It was 2 courses at separate properties, silver Creek (on the lake with lighthouse hole) and Rolling Ridge, a mostly wooded track, and those properties will host Women's US next summer. Neither have been for sale, but Highbridge Hills was, that multi course property in northern Wisconsin hosted worlds many years ago. That property has been for sale multiple times, it's only weakness is location. Incredible property with terrain that would rival Vermont n Mass courses. Coverage of worlds featuring caddy Brad IS on UA-cam!
We should amend the 30 sec rule to only apply after a Marshall has come to the group and warned them for falling behind. The Marshall will then stay with the group until they show they are playing to the correct pace of play. That way if you feel like it’s an issue you can call for a Marshall to come over and time people. I do not want people rushing hard shots if the group is playing quick enough.
Speaking on coverage appearances , when was the last time James Conrad made a coverage card
Great comments folks!
Players complain about the disc going sideways, splitting the chains, and going out the other side.
Hey we fixed that for you by adding these chains.
Players complain about the disc hitting the chain pocket and getting pushed back out.
Hey we fixed that for you by taking those extra chains back off.
Players complain about the disc going sideways, splitting the chains, and going out the other side..........
where the tone poles at
You can’t make a perfect basket no matter what spit outs will happen.
why are you able to diminish missed basketball shots that roll off the rim versus missed putts with high spin that glance high off the chains?
weird
One is a faulty design the other is not
NBA/NCAA have one manufacturer and standards to go by whereas Pro DG does not and seems to go with whatever basket manufacturer will either donate or give the lowest possible price…(speculation)
@@BrodieSmith you're wishy washy as hell
@@justramsay13 there is a guideline for baskets
@@BrodieSmith Are there studies and/or statistics proving these baskets are worse or are we scapegoating and hyper-focusing on every spit out?
Shows how small disc golf is that this whole Natalie Ryan situation hasn’t gotten national attention
We need the comments back. The chances of me watching round 1 of fpo w no comments and especially w no tattar are very small
Truth.
The Prodigy mgmt needed to free up cash for their winter homes
Ok, ok, ok
When there’s “1” tournament where the payout is “1 million dollars”, major network tv coverage, disc golf becomes a top tier sport (.)
Wonder if McBeth has a performance clause?
Hunter has to be one of the smartest people I feel like I’ve heard on here. I didn’t think about pickleball at all but I’ve played for 5 years and I’ve been seeing commercials for so long now, but yet I only see disc golf commercials during disc golf events, you gotta reach a different sustainable piece of the market
When Hunter is the smartest person in the room, we’re ALL in trouble!🤷🏿♂️😂
Pickleball is big because its cheap cheap entry and you dont need a lot of equipment. Plus the entry level skill level is easy to reach, it can be played inside, in ares with adult drinks. One location.
Brodie, Marques Brownlee just released a video on golf tech hidden in plain sight. Is there a way for you to get him on the show and talk about applications to DG? Not sure if you have a connection with him through Ultimate.
To fix the 30 second rules just have the pdga have a mini created that is a timer. You mark your lie and start your timer then boom. Everyone has clear visibility including that player on 30 seconds and it’s much easier to call when you are standing over a timer showing 40+ seconds
Brody talking about the Raiders as he’s wearing a cowboys hat lol
Kelsey cheered for both
Should just root for the Chiefs.
@@chrisproffitt6198ok swifty
Since Kristin isn't dominating this year, can you included FPO in the Manufacturers Cup Standings?
Brodie!! Trophy Club is wild how it’s flooded out! Theres a few more courses that are flooded out too! Brodie come play a round with me at Zboaz! I’ll bring ya plenty of water and Gatorade 😆🤙🏽😎
Keeping track of timeoutes etc is just unnecessary, even 30 secs is a bad way to do it imo. Courtesy violation for excessive time if things are obviously getting out of hand too often.
We are all trying to get through the round fast, but I've had times where we were making good time and we were fine taking it slower, heat and elevation for us 40 guys as an example.
The slow players stand out but don't happen often imo, could be my division but we have been making great time.
The answer to no comments on FPO is banning Ryan from it. Simple as that. It’s makes me sick to my stomach that disc golf hands are tied cuz it’s a new sport but other bigger sports can make a clear stand. It’s not fair. If they start a go fund me to be able to aided to ban him from fpo i would donate. Women’s sports are hard to watch man, they are just not as impressive unfortunately. And seeing a dude compete with women is not right. I respect every one’s choices but they’re shoving it down our throats at this point and it’s hard to take that silently
Itsgrowing in our area of Fredericton NB.ladt year we had maybe 20 people probably,this summer we had 37 at the doubles league.
Compare baskets to bowling lane patterns. The oil on the lanes if not applied correct or frequently can entice players to want to lob their balls farther down the lane. Also not a good look for bowling kinda.
Uli said "Flipping a couple Bergs"... Uli to Kastaplast confirmed
pockets play differently in pool
I tell you what Kevin Jones’ issue was, I follow Disc Golf pretty closely and I will be honest with you that if you had asked me two weeks ago who sponsored Kevin Jones I wouldn’t have been able to tell you.
That probably won't change much at Innova.
then you don't follow disc golf nearly at all
@@shamanschlong your mom doesn’t follow disc golf nearly at all
Prodigy is dying. Someone on reddit posted their euro financials and it was net losses the last year. They are terrible at marketing and capitalizing on their players popularity. What signature disc did they even have for Gannon when he was there? I couldn't tell you and i watch dgn and jomez constantly.
I know right lol and he apparently has 2-3 prodigy disc that actually had names Reverb and something else DJ related
The comparison to pickleball is spot on. It is completely ridiculous that a sport that requires the level of finesse and not just physicality but also the mental side, applying science, just such an interesting sport that disc golf is, that you don't have to be an elite level athlete to still play at least a relatively competitive level, it's approachable from all ages from 4 to 100, yet our popularity is dwarfed by a sport where people are smacking wiffle balls with a cutting board... That's ridiculous.
The silence says it all PDGA!!
Courses could use Marshals to usher the pace of play for backed up holes (Like Golf)
i agree
I mean there is any easy fix for the PDGA.
Every basket has a place where the chains push the disc back out. Even the exalted Innova baskets, at a certain height on the pole the chains will push the disc back out just enough that the disc will be vertical when it's over the rim and fall on the wrong side of the tray. The Prodigy baskets are really prone to this physics phenomenon but all baskets do it. I don't know if there's a chain assembly that can eliminate this completely without making the tray wider.
BS happened to me in league yesterday. Innova Discatcher Pro. Went vertical, hit pole, came right back out. Wasn’t the first and won’t be the last. It’s the way of the chains for sure.
Shrink the sport
1:50:42 Lost a few brain cells here 😅
Discmania should be smoking discraft and everyone else,,the ratings system is flawed 😂
Get rid of the 30 sec and enforce pace of play
Uli looking to buy oceanfront property in Wisconsin
Paige did a disc golf clinic for 500 odd peoples at B’roo.
😂😂😂 “young for my age” 👌ok Brodie 🤦♂️story started off sus with the whole “dating a high schooler” Uli saw your cringe homie.
Haha I was thinking maybe let’s just cut our losses with this story Brodie.
It's not just money, that died up after covid, it's also time. Disc golf takes time to play and people had more free time during covid, now that the regular world has returned and the economy got worse, time becomes a more precious commodity. It's like you have talked about before getting people to watch 3+ hrs of live coverage, there is that and expecting to go out and spend 2 or 3 hours throwing and field work, putting practice of you want to improve. It's all expensive in a different way.
Soooooo,… no wild story of the week???
I think hundreds of people thought of the Disc finder idea. Back in 2010 I tried to patent a Disc "beeper". I also have the "Discpenser" trademarked and patented for 5 years now. Every player (Including Brodie) and company loved the idea but no one wanted to invest. Meanwhile, MVP has the "practice POD" now. My Discpenser is still way cooler!
Dont stop!! You may hange the course of disc golf forever one day.
The comment pop up thing isn’t it
What does “I’m young for my age” mean? 😂
Get some pregnancy belly suits to the foundation boys as soon as possible
I know why Kevin Jones couldn't make it for your podcast.
No you don't
Nate and Brian have definitely done at many previous tournaments. For an entire hole and also when someone is in a tricky spot. I’m not sure how you guys haven’t seen/heard it before.
Väinö most likely wasn't asked to leave, because Prodigy released a statement about how they understand the need for a fresh restart.. 🤔
Adding in retroactively, that's what Väinö told in a Finnish interview. Supposedly this had been in the works for 6 months initiated by himself, which is a completely different story to KJ.
If Prodigy Europe is indeed it's own entity, I could see these two trades happening at the same time by complete chance, but they also have a lot of similarities and both players moving to Innova does make me wonder if Väinö just managed to negotiate his leave better or has more pull (or leverage) within Prodigy Europe in order to spin his departure for a better look. I dunno...
Can I call timeout on my opponents throw to ice them? I might be in, if I can freeze Uli as he gets ready to hit a critical putt.
If no money would make you swap it means you’re making good money for what you’re currently doing.
I came for the Captian, I stayed for Captian! o7
Been saying for years ricky is the best scrambler, because he's not that good off the tee (compared to other top pros). You don't end up the best scrambler by always hitting fairways.
Europe division of Prodigy made 350-520k profit during covid, last year 200k loss. No wonder giving up high payed players.
Concerning baskets, I could be wrong but in the early days wasn't the target just the pole, and eventually they added baskets partly for convenience cause then you don't have to chase your disc after nicking the pole or bend down to the ground to pick it up. The obvious solution is a sensor that detects whether or not the disc touches the pole or would have touched the pole had the chains not kept it from doing so. Whether the basket catches it or not should not be a factor. What should matter is - was the putt accurate left to right and up to down. Nothing changes except adding sensors, technology was there decades ago
Talking about tour life merch sold is kind of the same thing as talking about disc golf players career earnings, not a good look
Could have ended 40:00 ish minutes sooner 😂
I came for the Captian, I stayed for Captian..
Even if i had to listen to B.S for the context of each topic😅.
I look forward to people complaining that talking about the Prodigy/KJ situation is drama...toxic...lol. awesome sports business discussion fellas, love it.
KJ has stated he believes he could be top 40 in the AUDL/UFA. Reckons he would intimidate the other teams with huge pulls alone.
Really beating a dead horse there fella.
Ricky’s bogey on hole two , he missed the mando hit an early tree it was flying left hard right where me and other spectators were standing it hit the guys leg standing right next to me keeping it in a relatively easy spot to pitch it back thru the mando and get bogey
8:27 Drake has entered the chat
Ruth's Chris
Food baby lol 😆
Yall arguing about seconds ,causing slow
Play is absurd
I said the same thing about Eagle McMahon going to MVP to be with Simon Lizotte and everybody called me a fucking liar
Justin Fields will underwhelm you.. maybe with a real team he'll realize some potential
I had been wondering where the Griplocked podcast went. I used to watch it here and there then all the sudden it wasn't on this channel anymore. Seems like a good way to lose a lot of viewers.
theyre going out of business or selling. you dont lay off two players then help them get new jobs unless youre going under. everyone keeps saying they left when we now know they were let go.
Timeout rule is bad
SOLUTION:
Instead of pulling timeouts from say basketball,
We should be pulling FOULS.
If each player is allowed 5 time fouls, then calling a card mate on time foul will become a regular thing. A fee time fouls per round is no big deal. But If someone is a problem they will get stroked after being called 5 times. This will introduce time accountability throughout the round and only punish those who do not adjust to the required rate of play.
If they go over 60 seconds they get a double foul. But if they have to do that twice a round it’s just an extra minute so no big deal for pace of play.
Pay me.
How do you go from proclaiming yourself the goat to I don't care about disc golf?
new rules and cant fix old rules.
I sure hope the Robinson bro's leave prodigy. It's a terrible company.
Hunters 100's better than his co-host Trev
Uli the timeouts are not good!!!!!! Do not vote for this
Prodigy’s revenue declined -48,5% in Europe in 2023. And they made a loss. The Europe business is going under.
And FYI Väinö makes 150k/season. That’s public information in Finland. And that’s 10% of Prodigy Europe’s revenue.
Morals>Money
Paige P ,,21st place 😉😂😂
Mach X
Nerds…..
Often, Brodie is a voice of reason, but at other times he just comes off as a professional PDGA complainer. I see it in almost every other sport, people just love to complain about their governing body. It was obvious that the only reason Brodie thought the time-out rule was bad was because he thought it came from the PDGA. When Uli said it came from the players he didn't know what to say anymore. As most players clearly agree, the time-out rule would be great and add strategic decision-making to the sport.
Brodie often also argues that somehow monitoring the players' pace and telling them to speed up would make a difference. He's just not thought that through. Once a gap of a few holes has been established between groups there is rarely room for the slow group to pick up their speed of play in a way that would actually make up that lost time. If they actually did speed up their play to that extent it would likely ruin that entire card's round, which is obviously not something a tournament organizer wants to force a card to do. In practice, they'll likely just manage to keep up with the gap they originally lost. Even then it often affects the players of that card negatively. This is what has happened every time a card has been asked to speed up as far as I know. So maybe consider that stance again Brodie.
I could have sworn Brodie has previously pitched a similar idea. It may have been someone else though.
And yeah that’s my one criticism of Brodie. He leans so heavily into being negative now. Especially about the PDGA.
In this case it wasn’t even the PDGA’s idea.
And if you complain about him you’re ’too sensitive’.
He was astonished when he found out it supposedly came from the players because he straight up said that he never saw anything about it or had an opportunity to vote on it. He was flabbergasted.
Y'all are soft
@@deloheryseanBrodie doesn’t need you to interpret his emotions big boy.
@@leastselfawarepotassium I also thought Brodie had himself advocated for that time-out idea previously, but maybe it was Uli or someone else.
Brodie is wrong on the timeouts, it will make it easier to call excessive time. Over your 30s and haven't announced a timeout? Call them for excessive time. Over your 60s timeout? Called. No more excuses. It'll be interesting to see how people will use them.
No more excuses? how about the PDGA and DGN actually officiate their professional tour
What a nerd
Not the top 10 your not as valuable so what about you and uli ?